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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: blazeindave213 on July 31, 2009, 12:03:50 PM
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.9557/title.tha-realest-talks-tupac-suge-knight-and-d-o-c-
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Good lookin homie
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dope... good stuff.
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good read
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He contradicts himself in the statement about sounding like 2Pac. I'll see if anyone else notices it
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He contradicts himself in the statement about sounding like 2Pac. I'll see if anyone else notices it
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Like how he has the balls to use the night pac got shot, as the same exact time he got a audition.
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Like how he has the balls to use the night pac got shot, as the same exact time he got a audition.
Different fight. He says he auditioned for him at the Bruno fight in March. Pac got shot after the Seldon fight in September.
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It's funny because J Flexx's manager KC was apparently the person who brought Jevon over to Death Row and from what is implied there wasn't shit about an audition. Lol.
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
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good read.dope.
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LOL.... Him saying he aint tryin to be like pac why the fuck would he put his tats in the same places...
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
notice how it has suddenly become quiet around DOC & the operation?
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good read . keep doin ya thing realest , fuck the haters .
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
notice how it has suddenly become quiet around DOC & the operation?
What do you mean sir, Dre-Day?
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
notice how it has suddenly become quiet around DOC & the operation?
What do you mean sir, Dre-Day?
that D.O.C. is talking shit once again.
wasn't he supposed to get a show on VH1 :laugh:
it's a shame that he rather works with Tha Realest & slim the mobster, than picking up the mic
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Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
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Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
Actually, he does. I was the one who broke the news to AllHipHop about him getting his voice fixed. Dude knows more about The D.O.C. than you know about getting your hair cut to make you look like Vanilla Ice.
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enigma you have to learn that some battles just arent worth fighting . if you see people hating just for the sake of hating just ignore the shit man , its pointless engaging in those type of conversations .
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enigma you have to learn that some battles just arent worth fighting . if you see people hating just for the sake of hating just ignore the shit man , its pointless engaging in those type of conversations .
You do realize being a Realest fan, you don't have to tell him this? Even being a fan of an artist who's album sold a little over 1,000 copies is a lost cause. DJ Quik and Kurupt did better than that and they had nearly 0% promotion.
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Can we please just stay on topic........i cant speak for every Realest fan ,but im sure im not the only one who is fed up of every Realest thread turning into a argument between Enigma and Kilo?
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i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
notice how it has suddenly become quiet around DOC & the operation?
What do you mean sir, Dre-Day?
that D.O.C. is talking shit once again.
wasn't he supposed to get a show on VH1 :laugh:
it's a shame that he rather works with Tha Realest & slim the mobster, than picking up the mic
D.O.C. is actually a cool guy at times. Just depends on when you catch him. Lol.
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naw i can definitely see to a certain extent where enigma is coming from , when you see people hating just for the sake of hating and not knowing what theyre even talking about it CAN at times be very irritating . MY thing is that i dont mind engaging in convo with people that bring something constructive to the table BUT when you see people on here posting just to say something as pointless as "witness tha fakest" or "real meets fake" or other childish crap like that you have to realize that these people are just acting ignorant therefore why even engage them ? when people post crap like that or insult me i let that trash roll right off my back and dont even bother responding .
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See the thing is, this child keeps finding the need to chime in.
How anyone can "hate someone's guts" giving they've never met the person is beyond me. If that's the reference you use for someone over the internet, I'd be interested to see how you refer to someone who really did harm to you, or your family.
Just goes to show how far away from reality this lost child is. Now I know why your favorite Michael Jackson song was "The Lost Children", he's singing to kids like you with an extreme lack of guidance. Trying to come on here and spit knowledge about things, all we have to do is pull up the MJ threads to show how tainted your knowledge of music is, even someone as universal as Michael Jackson.
"My favorite MJ album is Invincible"------that statement right there shows your lack of taste and exposure to music, GOOD music.
"Most of Michael Jackson's hits came in the 90's"------you have no solid background foundation for your self proposed "passion in life", that being music. Everything you've gathered is from stuff you've read over the internet, rather than just going out and experiencing it on your own.
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See the thing is, this child keeps finding the need to chime in.
How anyone can "hate someone's guts" giving they've never met the person is beyond me. If that's the reference you use for someone over the internet, I'd be interested to see how you refer to someone who really did harm to you, or your family.
Just goes to show how far away from reality this lost child is. Now I know why your favorite Michael Jackson song was "The Lost Children", he's singing to kids like you with an extreme lack of guidance. Trying to come on here and spit knowledge about things, all we have to do is pull up the MJ threads to show how tainted your knowledge of music is, even someone as universal as Michael Jackson.
"My favorite MJ album is Invincible"------that statement right there shows your lack of taste and exposure to music, GOOD music.
"Most of Michael Jackson's hits came in the 90's"------you have no solid background foundation for your self proposed "passion in life", that being music. Everything you've gathered is from stuff you've read over the internet, rather than just going out and experiencing it on your own.
Hey Enigma, I just wanted to say - you look like a bald peadophile. That's all. Thanks BlazinDave for the article. Also, the real meets fake thing Outlaw - you'd have to know The D.O.C. and Realest's character types to get the joke.
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Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
once again? please back up your claim before making one.
and even if it is true that DOC had done the operation, then we would have known by now.
not to mention that it takes some time for the voice to recover, after the operation so you just exposed yourself with your so called "news" update.
Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
Actually, he does. I was the one who broke the news to AllHipHop about him getting his voice fixed. Dude knows more about The D.O.C. than you know about getting your hair cut to make you look like Vanilla Ice.
lol, props :laugh:
well you can tell that he wasn't able to come with a proper response, as he was responding to an impression he had of me or my post(s), in stead of replying to the actual message.
naw i can definitely see to a certain extent where enigma is coming from , when you see people hating just for the sake of hating and not knowing what theyre even talking about it CAN at times be very irritating . MY thing is that i dont mind engaging in convo with people that bring something constructive to the table BUT when you see people on here posting just to say something as pointless as "witness tha fakest" or "real meets fake" or other childish crap like that you have to realize that these people are just acting ignorant therefore why even engage them ? when people post crap like that or insult me i let that trash roll right off my back and dont even bother responding .
that post really backfired, didn't it?
if you don't understand sarcasm, why act like you do?i know how the duo album with DOC will be called: real meets fake
I like D.O.C., but LOL.
notice how it has suddenly become quiet around DOC & the operation?
What do you mean sir, Dre-Day?
that D.O.C. is talking shit once again.
wasn't he supposed to get a show on VH1 :laugh:
it's a shame that he rather works with Tha Realest & slim the mobster, than picking up the mic
D.O.C. is actually a cool guy at times. Just depends on when you catch him. Lol.
oh yeah, i'm not acting like he's an evil person, although i don't like certain characteristics of him.
IMO he's a tough person to converse with: he's very selective & sensitive: it makes you wonder why he even has a public profile on a social site like myspace.
i don't really contact him any more, unless i want certain info or his opinion about something related to rap.
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“And when a lot of people try to say, ‘Aww this nigga think he ‘Pac,’” continued Realest. “Man, please. Why I’ma try to be another nigga and I’m on the same label with these cats? The artists over there would look at me crazy! Or niggas wouldn’t even fuck with me. Suge wouldn’t fuck with me. Niggas wouldn’t fuck with me. I’m on songs with every nigga that ‘Pac was fuckin’ with. His niggas who fucked with him fuck with me. E.D.I. Mean [click to read] got shit on [Witness Tha Realest]… I fucks with [E-40], Richie Rich, B-Legit – these my niggas! The Yukmouth’s, the C-Bo’s… So [that criticism of my flow is] just Internet muthafuckas who just want somethin’ to talk about or don’t know… It’s some little kid sittin’ at the crib, some muthafucka who don’t really just know me. And I don’t really [feel like I should] have to answer all these [criticisms] from all these cats, ‘cause that shit was 13 years ago and I done moved on with my career
First he denies sounding like Pac, and at the end of the same paragraph he swiftly excuses the suspicions from the public by claiming "it was 13 years ago, i've moved on" ?? So he admitting he does, or at least "did" at some point? lol. He should have talked more on his current project, and future than talk about the Death Row days
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See the thing is, this child keeps finding the need to chime in.
How anyone can "hate someone's guts" giving they've never met the person is beyond me. If that's the reference you use for someone over the internet, I'd be interested to see how you refer to someone who really did harm to you, or your family.
Just goes to show how far away from reality this lost child is. Now I know why your favorite Michael Jackson song was "The Lost Children", he's singing to kids like you with an extreme lack of guidance. Trying to come on here and spit knowledge about things, all we have to do is pull up the MJ threads to show how tainted your knowledge of music is, even someone as universal as Michael Jackson.
"My favorite MJ album is Invincible"------that statement right there shows your lack of taste and exposure to music, GOOD music.
"Most of Michael Jackson's hits came in the 90's"------you have no solid background foundation for your self proposed "passion in life", that being music. Everything you've gathered is from stuff you've read over the internet, rather than just going out and experiencing it on your own.
Hey Enigma, I just wanted to say - you look like a bald peadophile. That's all. Thanks BlazinDave for the article. Also, the real meets fake thing Outlaw - you'd have to know The D.O.C. and Realest's character types to get the joke.
First you say I cut my hair to look like Vanilla Ice, then you say I'm bald in the same thread.
Man, get something right, for once in your life. Just one thing. Then, you might have something to actually gain self-esteem from.
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"My favorite MJ album is Invincible"------that statement right there shows your lack of taste and exposure to music, GOOD music.
"Most of Michael Jackson's hits came in the 90's"------you have no solid background foundation for your self proposed "passion in life", that being music. Everything you've gathered is from stuff you've read over the internet, rather than just going out and experiencing it on your own.
LOL
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See the thing is, this child keeps finding the need to chime in.
How anyone can "hate someone's guts" giving they've never met the person is beyond me. If that's the reference you use for someone over the internet, I'd be interested to see how you refer to someone who really did harm to you, or your family.
Just goes to show how far away from reality this lost child is. Now I know why your favorite Michael Jackson song was "The Lost Children", he's singing to kids like you with an extreme lack of guidance. Trying to come on here and spit knowledge about things, all we have to do is pull up the MJ threads to show how tainted your knowledge of music is, even someone as universal as Michael Jackson.
"My favorite MJ album is Invincible"------that statement right there shows your lack of taste and exposure to music, GOOD music.
"Most of Michael Jackson's hits came in the 90's"------you have no solid background foundation for your self proposed "passion in life", that being music. Everything you've gathered is from stuff you've read over the internet, rather than just going out and experiencing it on your own.
Hey Enigma, I just wanted to say - you look like a bald peadophile. That's all. Thanks BlazinDave for the article. Also, the real meets fake thing Outlaw - you'd have to know The D.O.C. and Realest's character types to get the joke.
First you say I cut my hair to look like Vanilla Ice, then you say I'm bald in the same thread.
Man, get something right, for once in your life. Just one thing. Then, you might have something to actually gain self-esteem from.
Nah, I got self esteem and UNLIKE YOU - I know MJ's discography. You said everything from the 90's was greatest hits albums and you know that's a damn lie. As I said before, I will be seeing your scrawny ass in a few months so we can play a round of Mike Tyon's punch out and tell your boy John that he needs to step up his design game because my boy just spoke to Lara Lavi and she knows your douche bag designer boy is a full fledged bootlegger. Also, you had the Vanilla Ice haircut going on then you went bald for graduation. Simple. Your stupid fucking ass is trying to make it look like I contradicted myself. However, if you did have self-asteem, you wouldn't back track and go against your word about not responding. You care about everything I say you fucking loser - so do Realest's fan boys. Best of luck with your album sales. LOL.
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Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
once again? please back up your claim before making one.
and even if it is true that DOC had done the operation, then we would have known by now.
not to mention that it takes some time for the voice to recover, after the operation so you just exposed yourself with your so called "news" update.
Enigma don't know shit. See, his Realest's web guy/the guy who wants to be Realest's manager. Neither him nor the designer get paid for the job. Just because Realest has some loose affiliation with The D.O.C. - he believes that he knows things. See, I know more about what Tha Realest and D.O.C. do than this guy. One time, my boy was working with Realest and Young Buck and Realest had collaborated for the first time - I tell this fuck Enigma here and he denies it because he didn't know. A few months later, he found out that I was right, and he was in the wrong.
Trust me, this fuck Enigma has NOTHING to back up his statements. This fuck wouldn't have even known about D.O.C. getting his voice back (AFTER DETOX - LOL @ YOU ENIGMA) if not for this board and people like me. I have D.O.C.'s phone # right here, Enigma. Want me to call and confirm your update? LMFAO. I appreciate the back up with this Dre-Day, it's assholes like him who make me start beef threads. Also, yeah interesting fact here - Dre Day - Enigma and his buddies are known bootleggers. They run For The People Entertainment. Hahaha.
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I thought the dude who runs Death Row's websites already confirmed that the story about realest meeting Pac was total bullshit.
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I thought the dude who runs Death Row's websites already confirmed that the story about realest meeting Pac was total bullshit.
Nah, he works for Realest - so it wouldn't have been in his best interest to confirm that story. LOL.
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Once again, speaking negative on stuff you know nothing about. Dre Day, DOC is rapping right now, has been recording steadily the past 2 months because he has recently gotten his voice box fixed.
The DOC is rapping again, don't believe the negative hype.
once again? please back up your claim before making one.
and even if it is true that DOC had done the operation, then we would have known by now.
not to mention that it takes some time for the voice to recover, after the operation so you just exposed yourself with your so called "news" update.
Enigma don't know shit. See, his Realest's web guy/the guy who wants to be Realest's manager. Neither him nor the designer get paid for the job. Just because Realest has some loose affiliation with The D.O.C. - he believes that he knows things. See, I know more about what Tha Realest and D.O.C. do than this guy. One time, my boy was working with Realest and Young Buck and Realest had collaborated for the first time - I tell this fuck Enigma here and he denies it because he didn't know. A few months later, he found out that I was right, and he was in the wrong.
Trust me, this fuck Enigma has NOTHING to back up his statements. This fuck wouldn't have even known about D.O.C. getting his voice back (AFTER DETOX - LOL @ YOU ENIGMA) if not for this board and people like me. I have D.O.C.'s phone # right here, Enigma. Want me to call and confirm your update? LMFAO. I appreciate the back up with this Dre-Day, it's assholes like him who make me start beef threads. Also, yeah interesting fact here - Dre Day - Enigma and his buddies are known bootleggers. They run For The People Entertainment. Hahaha.
lol, yeah i already figured that out, but thanks for the funny story & info :laugh:
i still like to see him come up with examples of where i make negative comments, according to him ;D
i don't know about you, but i find it funny when someone tries to make me look bad & fails :D
anyway, you're welcome :) i'm glad i could help. i appreciate your back up as well 8)
well to be honest with you, a while ago i used to think that you were a troublemaker, but that just shows how easy it is to get the wrong idea when you look from the outside. i mean in the past several months it became clear to me that you're actually contributing to this place, not to mention that you acted nice to me. at the end of the day you're just a human that makes mistakes, like anyone else. but you're a cool person, so i appreciate & respect that, plus i encourage the positivity :cheers:
i mean if we can help eachother to make this forum a better place, why not?
by the way, "we" as humans sometimes feel that we need to get even with someone.
but i don't think you really love to be involved in conflicts, so try to resist the temptation ;)
it's not worth your energy :sun:
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wow , tha realest and young buck have some work done together ? that sounds like it could be pretty good .
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wow , tha realest and young buck have some work done together ? that sounds like it could be pretty good .
Yeah, it would be dope if it came out. I could tell you some other things about Realest's career, but I don't want to give Enigma more knowledge than need be.
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wow , tha realest and young buck have some work done together ? that sounds like it could be pretty good .
Yeah, it would be dope if it came out. I could tell you some other things about Realest's career, but I don't want to give Enigma more knowledge than need be.
i understand , since you guys clearly just dont like each other lol . let it be about the music though my friends , thats what its all about . . the music .
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Dre Day, first off, my fault for saying "once again." That simply referred to people on this forum once again dissing something that Tha Realest is doing and it ended up being wrong.
All I corrected you on was that DOC has been rapping. How do I know? I've seen him in Big Ego Studios at the beginning of July, writing, rapping, doing hooks, etc.
This really had nothing to do with you, I was more so responding to this child on here.
Child - you don't really "know" anyone. You stalk artist's MySpace, tell them you want to help their career, and then time passes and they see you're a big crock. All they have to do is take a look at your mushroom/Austin Powers/bowl/I have no idea how to get a girl haircut, on top of your depressing "I wanna cut myself" MySpace profile, and they know that there is absolutely nothing you can do to benefit YOURSELF, let alone somebody else.
You like HopSin simply because he was outcasted in school, much like how you are on the daily, and like how the rest of your life seems to be ending up. Only difference is, HopSin has talent in something, and was humble enough to let his talent shine. My friend Keith knows HopSin really well actually, HopSin is from my hometown, went to the same high school as me, and we have mutual friends I've come to find out. I actually had no idea he was "HopSin" until I put all the pieces together. When I saw him as "HopSin," it didn't register because of his eyes and shit, but now that I've seen him out and about, I remember exactly who he is. All it would take is for me to show him some of your stalking threats and ridiculous attempts at attention/sympathy, not to mention your pathetic looking face, and the dude will cut you off faster than you cut your wrists.
And yeah, I know you're gonna come back and say "I can message Realest's MySpace and say......" - you can end it right there, because unlike you, I actually KNOW this dude in person, and he's not gonna believe some lost child on the internet because he KNOWS my character and can determine for himself that there are fucking idiots that like to bug him. HopSin on the other hand, has no idea who you are, and some rude awakenings his way will have that dude laughing at you just like a lot of people in this community have grown to do in past months.
I'm not sure I want to do that though, I have a heart, and I don't like seeing people's lives and passions be ruined. That would be the case if someone like HopSin were to turn around and laugh at your sorry ass.
Oh, and for the record, I never shaved my head in my graduation picture. It's called a fucking grad cap, it fits over and covers your hair. If you wanna stalk me some more I can show you live pictures to prove I don't have a fucking bald head.
Good luck with your senior year in high school, that can be a depressing one if you have a lack of friends/no chick to get your dick wet with.
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Dre Day, first off, my fault for saying "once again." That simply referred to people on this forum once again dissing something that Tha Realest is doing and it ended up being wrong.
All I corrected you on was that DOC has been rapping. How do I know? I've seen him in Big Ego Studios at the beginning of July, writing, rapping, doing hooks, etc.
This really had nothing to do with you, I was more so responding to this child on here.
Child - you don't really "know" anyone. You stalk artist's MySpace, tell them you want to help their career, and then time passes and they see you're a big crock. All they have to do is take a look at your mushroom/Austin Powers/bowl/I have no idea how to get a girl haircut, on top of your depressing "I wanna cut myself" MySpace profile, and they know that there is absolutely nothing you can do to benefit YOURSELF, let alone somebody else.
You like HopSin simply because he was outcasted in school, much like how you are on the daily, and like how the rest of your life seems to be ending up. Only difference is, HopSin has talent in something, and was humble enough to let his talent shine. My friend Keith knows HopSin really well actually, HopSin is from my hometown, went to the same high school as me, and we have mutual friends I've come to find out. I actually had no idea he was "HopSin" until I put all the pieces together. When I saw him as "HopSin," it didn't register because of his eyes and shit, but now that I've seen him out and about, I remember exactly who he is. All it would take is for me to show him some of your stalking threats and ridiculous attempts at attention/sympathy, not to mention your pathetic looking face, and the dude will cut you off faster than you cut your wrists.
And yeah, I know you're gonna come back and say "I can message Realest's MySpace and say......" - you can end it right there, because unlike you, I actually KNOW this dude in person, and he's not gonna believe some lost child on the internet because he KNOWS my character and can determine for himself that there are fucking idiots that like to bug him. HopSin on the other hand, has no idea who you are, and some rude awakenings his way will have that dude laughing at you just like a lot of people in this community have grown to do in past months.
I'm not sure I want to do that though, I have a heart, and I don't like seeing people's lives and passions be ruined. That would be the case if someone like HopSin were to turn around and laugh at your sorry ass.
Oh, and for the record, I never shaved my head in my graduation picture. It's called a fucking grad cap, it fits over and covers your hair. If you wanna stalk me some more I can show you live pictures to prove I don't have a fucking bald head.
Good luck with your senior year in high school, that can be a depressing one if you have a lack of friends/no chick to get your dick wet with.
All I got to do is make one call to Big Ego's Entertainment and send a few files over. Watch your mouth Cal, because none of that shit has came to pass. I love your false propaganda.
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Also, I didn't speak with Realest via Myspace. I spoke to the people who actually run around his camp, your his errand boy. Nothing more.
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Just spoke with HopSin, and he said he didn't even know your ass! He said you must have been a super nobody because he didn't even know you! He says he highly doubts you went to school with him, because he didn't see very many white folk around the school. Hahaha. Looks like you got owned again. You can't contest my facts, Cal.
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Oh, and let me top the fact. D.O.C. can still rap, but there's a difference between rapping with a crushed larynx and rapping with a repaired one. LOL. You're barely older than me, and acting like a child. You're one to call people a stalker, seriously.
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I went to Monroe, used to kick it right at those same spots on Parthenia everyone else does. I didn't say I KNOW the cat, I said I recognized he went to Monroe and that we have mutual acquaintances. I graduated when he was younger. I don't have to prove shit to you. I can name names of people he hangs out with, but it's pointless, I ain't hear to name drop. You're just gonna try to paint me bad with the dude.
Believe me, I know females that know him and more than one dude that know him, personally. As in, kicked it with him recently. I've seen him within the past month at the Hookah Restaurant off Nordhoff and Reseda, mention that to him and he'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Dre Day, first off, my fault for saying "once again." That simply referred to people on this forum once again dissing something that Tha Realest is doing and it ended up being wrong.
All I corrected you on was that DOC has been rapping. How do I know? I've seen him in Big Ego Studios at the beginning of July, writing, rapping, doing hooks, etc.
This really had nothing to do with you, I was more so responding to this child on here.
you know what, props for coming back at me like that :cheers:
i thought you were different as well, so my bad for having the wrong idea then.
you didn't correct me though: i didn't state that The D.O.C. had stopped rapping, but i was just referring to the fact that he retired as a soloartist/performer ( which i think is a shame!).
you will never hear another D.O.C. soloalbum with the raspy voice: The D.O.C. is not confident enough to pull that off(unfortunately).
not to mention that the operation didn't take place (yet): say whatever you want, but you can't deny this.
also, i was just pointing out that it's sad that the D.O.C. rather works with Tha Realest & Slim the mobster for example, in stead of working with others + making a new soloalbum, no matter how the voice sounds.
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I thought the dude who runs Death Row's websites already confirmed that the story about realest meeting Pac was total bullshit.
He did among a few other things....I remember I use to take up for Realest and have homie back when shit was said between him and certain people who I won't name drop because that ain't my thing. But lets just put it like this the same cats who was hating on him he fucking with now. I am happy he finally got his album out but sometimes niggas not loyal and misinformed about shit. I guess money and bullshit talks so I want niggas to get they money at all cost.
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Propz for the interview - it was a good read but the story about Real meeting 'Pac still sounds strange to me as I remember the interview J. Flexx did with MrMakaveli back in 07 when they asked him about Realest he said some shit like "KC found him in Texas. He was a wild dude back then"... Well, I guess we'll never know.