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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: abusive on May 24, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
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https://youtu.be/4TMkR7YnwU4
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I've also heard Warren G actually made the beat for "Ain't No Fun", so I'm still confused who actually did what. Daz only did drum programming on "Rat-Tat-Tat-Tat". Colin Wolfe spoke about making of "The Chronic" and when he was asked about what Daz did he said he came up with some ideas for songs. He did not produce anything.
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https://youtu.be/4TMkR7YnwU4
Good choices.. approved by Infinite
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these are all 10/10 beats
my personal favorite that is probably not on anybodys list is "C-Walk"
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so his best beats are actually produced by dre and quik .... on point
daz on his own is dope but with help he’s incredible
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I've also heard Warren G actually made the beat for "Ain't No Fun", so I'm still confused who actually did what. Daz only did drum programming on "Rat-Tat-Tat-Tat". Colin Wolfe spoke about making of "The Chronic" and when he was asked about what Daz did he said he came up with some ideas for songs. He did not produce anything.
From what I remember hearing in interviews, Warren G brought the signature melody everyone recognizes in the song but that was it... nothing else. Everything else around that melody was created by Dr. Dre and others.
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21 Jumpstreet is probably my favourite Daz beat ever, but then I remember that he did 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted and a ton of other stuff during the Death Row Records era and since then, and it becomes hard to narrow down.
When you really think about it, Daz is up there with the greatest rap producers ever.
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Just a few jumping into my head right now. No particular order.
1. Way Too Major
2. Ambitionz
3. Cyco
4. Roll Wit Us
5. We About To Get Fucked Up
6. C-Walk
7. I Don't Like To Dream About Getting' Paid
8. Scandalous
9. Dogg Pound Gangstas
10. Hell Yeah
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why not making 1 thread about!so much producers on the Westcoast!
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Just a few jumping into my head right now. No particular order.
1. Way Too Major
2. Ambitionz
3. Cyco
4. Roll Wit Us
5. We About To Get Fucked Up
6. C-Walk
7. I Don't Like To Dream About Getting' Paid
8. Scandalous
9. Dogg Pound Gangstas
10. Hell Yeah
Man... Way Too Major was SO hard. Tray Deee killed the hook. Straight G shit from front to back. #ready?
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21 Jumpstreet is probably my favourite Daz beat ever, but then I remember that he did 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted and a ton of other stuff during the Death Row Records era and since then, and it becomes hard to narrow down.
When you really think about it, Daz is up there with the greatest rap producers ever.
I always thought Warren G produced 21 Jumpstreet??
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Man... Way Too Major was SO hard. Tray Deee killed the hook. Straight G shit from front to back. #ready?
yupppp. Great track!
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1. 2pac - 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted
2. Makaveli & Dillinger -Don’t Go To Sleep
3. 2pac - Got My Mind Made Up
4. Tha Dogg Pound - Let’s Play House
5. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Tha Doggfather
6. 2pac - Skandelouz
7. Soopafly - Dat Whoopty Whoop
8. B-Legit - The World is a Mutha
9. 2pac - Life’s so Hard
10. Dr. Dre - Rat-tat-tat-tat
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1- 2pac - Skandalouz ft. Nate Dogg
2- Best Run - DPG ft. Bienie Segal, Roscoe
3- Let's Play House - DPG ft. Nate Dogg, Michel'le
4- We Do This Passion
5- Come Close - Daz ft. Nate Dogg
6- Gangstas - Kurupt ft. Daz
7- One More Day - Nate Dogg
8- Ryde & Roll - Kurupt ft. Daz
9- Gang Streetz - Daz ft. Jayo Felony
10- Big Pimpin - Daz ft. Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg
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1- 2pac - Skandalouz ft. Nate Dogg
2- Best Run - DPG ft. Bienie Segal, Roscoe
3- Let's Play House - DPG ft. Nate Dogg, Michel'le
4- We Do This Passion
5- Come Close - Daz ft. Nate Dogg
6- Gangstas - Kurupt ft. Daz
7- One More Day - Nate Dogg
8- Ryde & Roll - Kurupt ft. Daz
9- Gang Streetz - Daz ft. Jayo Felony
10- Who Got Some Gangsta Shit - Snoop Dogg ft. DPG, Lil' Style, Young Swoop
"Who Got Some Gangsta Shit?" was produced by Soopafly.
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Your list would be better if you only included songs that Daz produced. Rat tat tat tat was produced by Dre. Ain't No Fun is credited to Dre, with production by Warren G. Even Snoop said it wouldn't have been shit without Dre.
Snoop Doggy Dogg said Dr. Dre was capable of making beats without the help of collaborators and addressed the issues with Warren G and Daz, stating "They made beats, Dre produced that record". He discussed the track "Ain't No Fun", mentioning that Daz and Warren G brought Dr. Dre the beat but "Dre took that muthafucka to the next level!"
"Let's play house" has Dre's sound all over it and to be fair, almost every great Daz beat happened when Dre was at Death Row. After Dre left, Daz fell off hard.
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we all know daz goes best wit others producing his beats .. it is what it is
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Your list would be better if you only included songs that Daz produced. Rat tat tat tat was produced by Dre. Ain't No Fun is credited to Dre, with production by Warren G. Even Snoop said it wouldn't have been shit without Dre.
Snoop Doggy Dogg said Dr. Dre was capable of making beats without the help of collaborators and addressed the issues with Warren G and Daz, stating "They made beats, Dre produced that record". He discussed the track "Ain't No Fun", mentioning that Daz and Warren G brought Dr. Dre the beat but "Dre took that muthafucka to the next level!"
"Let's play house" has Dre's sound all over it and to be fair, almost every great Daz beat happened when Dre was at Death Row. After Dre left, Daz fell off hard.
Very interesting... love Daz, but one of his fatal flaws was hating on Dre... I mean after all Dre did for these guys.. it's likely he learned most of his production technique from Dre during the Chronic era and Dre took them all from nobodies to platinum stars... If Dre wanted to he could of even probably called himself a producer on the Dogg Food album but since Daz was in the group it looked a lot better given Daz full production credits and just putting Dre down as mixing the album.
I've always been curious to find out more about what exactly Dre did and didn't do on the Dogg Pound album. It seems his paws were all over it cause you have him introducing the album at the beginning and then coming back on after the first record to intro track 3... then you even got him showing up in the lead single and video "Let's Play House". I can't imagine that record being as flawless as it was without Dre's gold standard. Even before the Dogg Food record he was all up in the "What Would You Do" video which shows he believed in them and was backing them. With how fully produced that record is with Jewell coming in at the end I think Dre was probably even mixing that as well, anybody got the album credits on that? (my cases were stolen in 01')
To Daz credit though he had a heroic effort on Revenge Retaliation and Get Back. A lot of those track though were from his stash of great records he had accumulated from the Death Row prime era.
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"Who Got Some Gangsta Shit?" was produced by Soopafly.
you are right, my fault... i fixed it.
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we all know daz goes best wit others producing his beats .. it is what it is
we also know dre goes best with other co producers and musicians.
i don't see anything wrong with daz teaming up with others to produce. thats how it goes..
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I always thought Warren G produced 21 Jumpstreet??
The booklet says Daz produced the track, with input from Sean 'Barney Rubble' Thomas and Carl 'Butch' Small.
What Would You Do does indeed have Dr. Dre down as a mixer of the track, it makes sense since there is a Dr. Dre mix version available which is essentially the same as the CD version but with subtle differences to the beat.
On topic, I also like the intro track to Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back, mainly because it pounds the speakers in a major way. The same can be said for the beat to DPGC Muzicc and a lot of other Daz productions to be fair.
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we also know dre goes best with other co producers and musicians.
i don't see anything wrong with daz teaming up with others to produce. thats how it goes..
yea daz tries to be what dre is, but doesn’t have that level of technical ability behind the boards
don’t get me wrong daz is dope as hell, but he’s no dre if we keepin it a buck
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Very interesting... love Daz, but one of his fatal flaws was hating on Dre... I mean after all Dre did for these guys.. it's likely he learned most of his production technique from Dre during the Chronic era and Dre took them all from nobodies to platinum stars... If Dre wanted to he could of even probably called himself a producer on the Dogg Food album but since Daz was in the group it looked a lot better given Daz full production credits and just putting Dre down as mixing the album.
I've always been curious to find out more about what exactly Dre did and didn't do on the Dogg Pound album. It seems his paws were all over it cause you have him introducing the album at the beginning and then coming back on after the first record to intro track 3... then you even got him showing up in the lead single and video "Let's Play House". I can't imagine that record being as flawless as it was without Dre's gold standard. Even before the Dogg Food record he was all up in the "What Would You Do" video which shows he believed in them and was backing them. With how fully produced that record is with Jewell coming in at the end I think Dre was probably even mixing that as well, anybody got the album credits on that? (my cases were stolen in 01')
To Daz credit though he had a heroic effort on Revenge Retaliation and Get Back. A lot of those track though were from his stash of great records he had accumulated from the Death Row prime era.
everyone knows dre ghost produced dogg food
he was only credited as a mixer though
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everyone knows dre ghost produced dogg food
he was only credited as a mixer though
yep...some of his best work imo
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everyone knows dre ghost produced dogg food
he was only credited as a mixer though
Why?
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Why?
because they were tryna build daz’s resume as a producer and because he got no credit on doggystyle and the chronic
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because they were tryna build daz’s resume as a producer and because he got no credit on doggystyle and the chronic
What's your source?
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yea daz tries to be what dre is, but doesn’t have that level of technical ability behind the boards
don’t get me wrong daz is dope as hell, but he’s no dre if we keepin it a buck
no i don't get it wrong. i agree all of your words. everybody wants to be dre but nobody can.
without daz there wouldnt be chronic or doggystyle, without mel-man and scott storch there wouldnt be 2001, without luis resto and jeff bass there wouldnt be lots of eminem albums.
but dre is the guy who is able to find the missing links and important pieces to put together.
daz is a good beatmaker and one of architectures of g-funk and brought a lot good material to death row studios for great albums.
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What's your source?
i think snoop said it on dubcnn but a lot of us figured that beforehand
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no i don't get it wrong. i agree all of your words. everybody wants to be dre but nobody can.
without daz there wouldnt be chronic or doggystyle, without mel-man and scott storch there wouldnt be 2001, without luis resto and jeff bass there wouldnt be lots of eminem albums.
but dre is the guy who is able to find the missing links and important pieces to put together.
daz is a good beatmaker and one of architectures of g-funk and brought a lot good material to death row studios for great albums.
i disagree
pieces like daz, mel-man, elizando, storch etc are interchangeable
dre is not
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no i don't get it wrong. i agree all of your words. everybody wants to be dre but nobody can.
without daz there wouldnt be chronic or doggystyle, without mel-man and scott storch there wouldnt be 2001, without luis resto and jeff bass there wouldnt be lots of eminem albums.
but dre is the guy who is able to find the missing links and important pieces to put together.
daz is a good beatmaker and one of architectures of g-funk and brought a lot good material to death row studios for great albums.
Without Colin Wolfe there is no "The Chronic". Daz really didn't do that much on that album. You give him way too much credit. Scott Storch only played on a few of the songs on "2001" too. You have wrong information. Years and years of people trying to discredit Dr. Dre has clearly made some people come up with false narratives.
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Without Colin Wolfe there is no "The Chronic". Daz really didn't do that much on that album. You give him way too much credit. Scott Storch only played on a few of the songs on "2001" too. You have wrong information. Years and years of people trying to discredit Dr. Dre has clearly made some people come up with false narratives.
what i am doing is not discrediting Dre. and i think u have less information. Scott is inolved with 7 songs.
when it comes to daz, he brought a lot beats to the table both on chronic and doggystyle. but that doesnt make him the producer and its not discrediting Dre. daz is a good beatmaker.
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i disagree
pieces like daz, mel-man, elizando, storch etc are interchangeable
dre is not
i agree dre is interchangable, i already told without dre those pieces dont make a puzzle don but without them with different names you'd listen to something else... it wouldnt be chronic or 2001.
if scott and dre wouldnt meet, we didnt have chance to listen to a lot hits we admire.
i want to mention camara kambon here also. he is very underrated and getting no props from you guys.
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i disagree
pieces like daz, mel-man, elizando, storch etc are interchangeable
dre is not
he got dawaun parker and mark batson around when he prouced relapse. it didnt work.
he got focus, trevor, dem jointz when he produced compton. and it didnt work either.
so, musicians and co-producers pieces are really important.
Even rappers. without eminem "my name is" beat wouldnt shine. neihter dre. dre says that. not me.
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the beats on relapse were classic dre.. the problem was eminem’s vocals
compton i consider an overall classic, just the style of rap was different .. nothing wrong wit the production tho
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the beats on relapse were classic dre.. the problem was eminem’s vocals
compton i consider an overall classic, just the style of rap was different .. nothing wrong wit the production tho
nope. it wasn'T em. em was even greater than ever on some tracks. 3am, insane, same song and dance, stay wide awake.. incredible flow and rhymes.
the problem is production was old fashioned. mark and dawaun also wasnt good enough to bring a new/smart ideas to the table. thats why dre give up on releasing detox after reaction to relapse. he realised detox will fail.
when it comes to compton, only thing i liked was dre's vocal and rap. problem was production again. it was like dre let his new musician team and artists to show their abilities like he did on aftermath compilation. it failed too. only he could earn from that album was anderson paak.
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nope. it wasn'T em. em was even greater than ever on some tracks. 3am, insane, same song and dance, stay wide awake.. incredible flow and rhymes.
the problem is production was old fashioned. mark and dawaun also wasnt good enough to bring a new/smart ideas to the table. thats why dre give up on releasing detox after reaction to relapse. he realised detox will fail.
when it comes to compton, only thing i liked was dre's vocal and rap. problem was production again. it was like dre let his new musician team and artists to show their abilities like he did on aftermath compilation. it failed too. only he could earn from that album was anderson paak.
you’re the first person i’ve heard say that
damn near everyone said em’s accents ruined the album for them
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the beats on relapse were classic dre.. the problem was eminem’s vocals
compton i consider an overall classic, just the style of rap was different .. nothing wrong wit the production tho
Relapse was a classic. The production was flawless. Most people hated Eminem's accent on the album and some people had a problem with it being a concept album that was hard to relate to. Not everyone wanted to hear him fascinate about being a serial killer.
As far as Compton, I am surprised to hear anyone complain about the production value of that album. The attention to detail and the production on the album is insane and has definitely aged well. I think Dre hurt himself by not having a single like "Still Dre" and generally not promoting the album.
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What's your source?
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nanci.fletcher
#FBF “Respect” by The Dogg Pound featuring Dr. Dre, Prince Ital Joe and ‘ME’‼‼ produced by Dr. Dr, recorded at Can-Am Studios in Tarzana, California
This session to me is kinda vague cuz it happened so fast. I think they were delayed in finishing the ‘Dogg Pound’ album so we had to work fast. Daz, Kurupt and Ital Joe recorded their parts at Can Am Studios and me and Dre recorded our parts at Dre’s ‘in-home’ studio in Calabasas which was called ‘Dre’s Crib’. Dre used samples from a ‘Geroge Clinton’ song ‘Flashlight’ and ‘The Lady of Rage’ song ‘Afro Puffs’ in this song. I put that ‘Brides of Funkenstien’ sound on this one too. SIDEBAR‼‼! I just found out as I was writing this post that ‘Prince Ital Joe’ passed away in 2001‼ 😲😪RIP! I had no idea and am really shocked and saddened by this news. He was killed in a car accident. He was only around 36 years old‼ I also found out that he kinda took my same path, raised in Brooklyn then went to LA to pursue his dream as an entertainer, except he was born in the ‘Commonwealth of Dominica’. I had met him before we did this song but I wish we could’ve recorded together. He had dat smooth ‘rasta’ vibe and spirit and he really ‘did his thang’ on this song. Dang, such a tragedy, he’ll be missed in this industry!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhhqkcbAqg5/
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Photo de profil de nanci.fletcher
nanci.fletcher
#FBF “Respect” by The Dogg Pound featuring Dr. Dre, Prince Ital Joe and ‘ME’‼‼ produced by Dr. Dr, recorded at Can-Am Studios in Tarzana, California
This session to me is kinda vague cuz it happened so fast. I think they were delayed in finishing the ‘Dogg Pound’ album so we had to work fast. Daz, Kurupt and Ital Joe recorded their parts at Can Am Studios and me and Dre recorded our parts at Dre’s ‘in-home’ studio in Calabasas which was called ‘Dre’s Crib’. Dre used samples from a ‘Geroge Clinton’ song ‘Flashlight’ and ‘The Lady of Rage’ song ‘Afro Puffs’ in this song. I put that ‘Brides of Funkenstien’ sound on this one too. SIDEBAR‼‼! I just found out as I was writing this post that ‘Prince Ital Joe’ passed away in 2001‼ 😲😪RIP! I had no idea and am really shocked and saddened by this news. He was killed in a car accident. He was only around 36 years old‼ I also found out that he kinda took my same path, raised in Brooklyn then went to LA to pursue his dream as an entertainer, except he was born in the ‘Commonwealth of Dominica’. I had met him before we did this song but I wish we could’ve recorded together. He had dat smooth ‘rasta’ vibe and spirit and he really ‘did his thang’ on this song. Dang, such a tragedy, he’ll be missed in this industry!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhhqkcbAqg5/
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you’re the first person i’ve heard say that
damn near everyone said em’s accents ruined the album for them
yeah i wasn't happy with the accent but that was not the whole problem. think that dre relases another album sounds like 2001 today. it can't be succesful. if relapse could be released in early 2000s it would rock! by the way bagpipes from bagdad must be the best beat dre did since that day and yeah eminem ruined it with stupid mariah carey issue.
i've read a lot about comments on compton. most agree on it's not succesful. but i respect your opinion. this is music and art. everybody has different tastes. i dont judge that.
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what i am doing is not discrediting Dre. and i think u have less information. Scott is inolved with 7 songs.
when it comes to daz, he brought a lot beats to the table both on chronic and doggystyle. but that doesnt make him the producer and its not discrediting Dre. daz is a good beatmaker.
Daz did not have any beats on "The Chronic". I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You don't seem to know who Colin Wolfe even is, so I think I'm done talking about this. You're right about Scott Storch being involved with 7 songs on "2001" though.
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Daz did not have any beats on "The Chronic". I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You don't seem to know who Colin Wolfe even is, so I think I'm done talking about this. You're right about Scott Storch being involved with 7 songs on "2001" though.
i know very well about Colin Wolfe bro. i know well about dre's production credits and all members of his crew till wcwc till now. i won't be humble about it. but i have to admit that i still learn new things. do you know scott replayed keys for "97 bonnie and clyde" of eminem and not credited. anyway daz claims that he has beats on chronic and doggystyle. i don't think he lies about it. but he is wrong if he says "i produced songs". producing is way different than making a beat or creating a melody. scott did the same mistake with saying he did "cry me a river". no he just brought ideas and melodies to the table. he was a piece of orchestra. maestro was timbaland. u might get me right now.
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i know very well about Colin Wolfe bro. i know well about dre's production credits and all members of his crew till wcwc till now. i won't be humble about it. but i have to admit that i still learn new things. do you know scott replayed keys for "97 bonnie and clyde" of eminem and not credited. anyway daz claims that he has beats on chronic and doggystyle. i don't think he lies about it. but he is wrong if he says "i produced songs". producing is way different than making a beat or creating a melody. scott did the same mistake with saying he did "cry me a river". no he just brought ideas and melodies to the table. he was a piece of orchestra. maestro was timbaland. u might get me right now.
Daz has only said he produced "Rat-Tat-Tat-Tat" and even though he's one of my favorite rappers / producers of all time, he's a well known liar. Colin Wolfe produced the album with Dr. Dre. Warren G gave them old records to take samples from. Why would Colin Wolfe lie about what Daz and Warren G did?
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Rather lie to you and Raw was amazing.