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Title: Does West Coast production need more diversity?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 17, 2002, 07:54:04 PM
"Mainstream" West Coast hip hop recently has been sounding quite similar as of late due to the hiring of the usual suspects of producers: Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, Daz, Warren G, BATTLECAT, Fredwreck, Jelly Roll, Meech Wells, etc. which is cool but I would like to hear some new sounds and a little bit more diversity.

It bothers me that talented producers like DJ Pooh, Bud'da, QDIII, Johnny J, etc. are overlooked when they have produced countless of classic songs and worked on classic albums in the past. I'm glad to see E-A Ski back in the game and hope he produces for other West Coast rappers. Does anyone know what happen to Sam Sneed, I know he had cancer but it was cured, and J. Flexx? They produced classic tracks too.

What do y'all feel about the current situation of the production on the West Coast? I'm speaking for mainstream because I know there's a lot of ill underground producers.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: LAZY on June 17, 2002, 08:14:26 PM
i think there isnt really a mainstrem west coast produced song out now... except maybe a dre but i cant think of a new song he produced.... but yeah QDIII and Johnny J and DJ Pooh and Bud'da r tite but where have they been n the last few years becuz i cant think of a song either of em did?
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Suga Foot on June 17, 2002, 08:54:22 PM
I think with the release of Man vs. Machine, and Detox, we will all be hearing some new sounds.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: themovie on June 18, 2002, 01:06:06 AM
I don't know his name,but the producer of the sixx john's Tha UnXXpected song is very talented.The beat of this song is hella tight,something new for the west coast scene...big props to him for that
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Quadruple OG on June 18, 2002, 08:54:18 AM
the key here is NEW talent.  Ski, QDIII, Johnny J, DJ Pooh, etc. have all been around for a while and are tight.  Let some new producers in, who haven't been brought out by Snoop or Dre to show their stuff
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: CantCme213 on June 18, 2002, 09:35:02 AM
agree the wc need some new producers  who got a own
style.  Peeps like Darren Vegas . but I think Crooked Is
Production team : Triple Seven is maybe going to  make a new
wc sound,  ;)
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on June 18, 2002, 09:40:27 AM
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I think with the release of Man vs. Machine, and Detox, we will all be hearing some new sounds.

Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: S.G.V. on June 18, 2002, 11:06:33 AM
if u go to the bay u get different beats...cuz theres so many producers....they got that mob shit, that heavy bass shit or they can come with midwest beats, hell a bay rapper can rip a south beat too....sac town got that dark shit but everyone up their has their own twist...but down in l.a. everyone uses the usual....like wcv nobody uses pooh, buddah, qd III and others like that....its a matter of wanting to sell records with big names....if u said u had an album produced by budda then u said u had an album produced by quik...the people automatically go for quik since hes the big name...id like to hear other people produce....like big hollis is finally getting his recognition...id like to see lynch produce for some l.a. artists....id love to see julio g produce for more people....
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Trauma-san on June 18, 2002, 11:10:51 AM
I'd like to see the westcoast move in this direction:

Jelly Roll
Scott Storch
Fredwreck
High Tec
E A Ski
Quik
Meechie Wells

were all the producers I've enjoyed recently, and think they're bringing something NEW to the table.  I like the Squeaky Funk the best that Meech, Storch, and Jelly Roll are doing... that's some dope stuff, imo.  

Ski, Fredwreck, and Quik are more into the deep beats, more grimy, less funky.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on June 18, 2002, 01:07:43 PM
u know there aint alot of producers from the west who gonna get love, but i feel fredwreck will, mainly cuz he with snoop n snoop been givn the east alot of love lately so he'll get props over ther n dj quik after what he did for truth.................but really ppl like battlcat n shit......other really big westcoast producers aint puttin shit out thats real mainstream n in the publics ears everywhere u know, not even dre no more.........neptunes gettin the airplay.......what we need is someone fresh.......with a addictive sound for all ears to come up in my view.

peace
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: That_Cracka_J on June 18, 2002, 06:54:24 PM
We don't even hear much from some tight west coast producers now

DJ Uneek
Rhythm D (made tight ass beats for ruthless)
Dr. Jam (not well known, but did a lot of ruthless shit)
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 18, 2002, 07:00:11 PM
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We don't even hear much from some tight west coast producers now.

DJ Uneek
Rhythm D (made tight ass beats for ruthless)
Dr. Jam (not well known, but did a lot of ruthless shit)


Word! I was just thinking about how dope Ruthless's in-house production team was. Those three produced a lot of classic tracks for Eazy and Bone. So many amazing West Coast producers gettin' slept on these days. I wish a rapper would go against the grain and use them but we all know that will never happen.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Trauma-san on June 18, 2002, 07:15:18 PM
I never, EVER, felt Eazy's production, unless it was a Dre track.  The stuff on his 187um killa album I thought was real shallowly produced, it was kindergarten compared to dre's Godzilla Chronic production, in my opinion.  
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: That_Cracka_J on June 18, 2002, 07:48:20 PM
I disagree.  I think that producion TOTALLY matched Eazy's style.  In fact, I think E sounded better with Rhythm D and Dr. Jam, IMO.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: That_Cracka_J on June 18, 2002, 07:48:53 PM
....and Yella of course.  Yella is (was) under-rated.
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Trauma-san on June 18, 2002, 07:55:28 PM
I'll admit Yella was underrated.  Peace~
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: the408figga on June 18, 2002, 08:54:34 PM
i think alot of these producers we all mentioning are not pushing themselves to be more creative... everybody is trying to be as funky as they can. id like to see more producers take the dre approach and make more simple beats. but thats just me ;)
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: LAZY on June 18, 2002, 09:58:26 PM
yeah wuts up wit that every1s makin it FUNKY i luv all of this funk stuf but whys every1 makin it funk
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Trauma-san on June 18, 2002, 10:02:47 PM
Honestly, and I say this and believe it 100%, right now, Dr. Dre is one of the LAST people I'd call creative.  IMO, Jelly Roll, Scott Storch, Meech Wells, DJ Quik are all more creative than dre.  
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: Cliche on June 18, 2002, 10:59:24 PM
personally the problem is that the only way you can really get known out of the west is if you're associated with dre/snoop/etc... hence most of the original/creative beatmakers don't reach that level...


you got:

Evidence, A-Plus (heiro), Domino (heiro not the sweet potato pie), Chief XL (Blackalicious), Bird (former Western HemisFear), dj khalil (self-scientific), E-Swift, and a ton of others making dope beats

while all you hear from the mainstream is a lot of shit that sounds the same...
Title: Re: Does West Coast production need more diversity
Post by: HairWuzEre on July 21, 2002, 01:39:01 PM
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personally the problem is that the only way you can really get known out of the west is if you're associated with dre/snoop/etc... hence most of the original/creative beatmakers don't reach that level...

you got:

Evidence, A-Plus (heiro), Domino (heiro not the sweet potato pie), Chief XL (Blackalicious), Bird (former Western HemisFear), dj khalil (self-scientific), E-Swift, and a ton of others making dope beats

while all you hear from the mainstream is a lot of shit that sounds the same...


Lately, I haven't cared much for Battlecat, Meech Wells, etc., but I'm definitely feeling some of those guys that you mentioned (especially Domino)! By the way, you forgot to mention Cut Chemist and DJ Nu-Mark (both from Jurassic 5!). Those are my two favorite west coast producers right now.