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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: LyRiCaL_G on April 27, 2003, 03:07:54 PM
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how many joints have eminem n 50 made n they aint winnin this battle by at all............its the truth, i know groupies will say sum other bullshit, but apart from a few good disses, nuthing has been great, ja rules "loose change" was a dope joint, it hit hard n was aiight.....his second one was unbeleivably wack but the eminem n 50 joints are nuttin great either..........imma say its about equal at the moment with shady crew slightly in front cuz they made mo joints n eminems verse on bump heads was dope and obies verse on that other joint was sick..........what y'all think?
peace
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Swifty had a nice verse on Doe Ray me.....He destroyed Ja IMO....
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Ja Rule has a few bars on one song going at Em, labeled "Freestyle" on the Invasion II mixtape, he also has "Loose Change" and "Who Shot Ya?".
Eminem has a verse on "Bump Heads" and a verse on "Hail Mary" plus some other little jabs here and there.
Eminem seemed to not even take this that seriously and just let the others (D12, G-Unit & Obie) go at him. But I think his verse on "Bump Heads" alone is better than anything Ja did against him.
But he could have done a way better job if he did a whole track focused on him like "Nail In The Coffin".
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^ agreed
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Ja Rule has a few bars on one song going at Em, labeled "Freestyle" on the Invasion II mixtape, he also has "Loose Change" and "Who Shot Ya?".
Eminem has a verse on "Bump Heads" and a verse on "Hail Mary" plus some other little jabs here and there.
Eminem seemed to not even take this that seriously and just let the others (D12, G-Unit & Obie) go at him. But I think his verse on "Bump Heads" alone is better than anything Ja did against him.
But he could have done a way better job if he did a whole track focused on him like "Nail In The Coffin".
Agreed, it seems like Eminem's only playing with Ja to get him pissed.
THEN he'll drop the proper diss-track.. I don't believe for a second that we have heard the last from Em in this feud.
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Eminem's verse in Bump Heads was craazy.. "We'd all much rather get along than fight you/ Me and Haile dance to your songs, we like you"
Swifty's whole verse in Doe Ray me was off the hook.. especially "I'm quick to 'Murder' Inc wit lead and I ain't talkin' 'bout a pencil"
Obie's was nice in Doe Ray Me, and Busta's was nice in Hail Mary. Besides that, every other verse by every one of them was average or better. And Kon Artis and some bitch killed Ashanti in Suck My Dick.
Ja has a few hard punches and besides that he has claims that he can't back and stupid disses that aren't even funny.
It's clear whose ahead.. and even though I may be a bit biased, it's pretty obvious.
By the way, if any1 hasn't seen Ja Rule's new video, "Reign," I suggest you do because he does one of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen in the rap industry. The integrity of that man, along with Irv, to pull off something like that is mind-boggling.
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By the way, if any1 hasn't seen Ja Rule's new video, "Reign," I suggest you do because he does one of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen in the rap industry. The integrity of that man, along with Irv, to pull off something like that is mind-boggling.
what did they do in the video
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I'm about to get rid of some hoez it's simple
I'm quick to murder Inc with lead and ain't talking 'bout a pencil
Look at what the fuck u done got into
I see u found ur nitch u just a bitch wit a menstral
Claiming u a murderer and spelt it wrong
U put "e" befo' the "d" because that's all u on
U on Pac's dick (bitch) u a replica guy if he was still alive u would never get by
All u do is cry, bitch keep it real..life is more than imitating niggas and eating pills
And what kinda muthafucka ruins 3 deals that another nigga got u they didn't see skills
and I ain't playing u a brother getting cheated
and Ja Rule be praying on his cover cause he need it
and all u niggas hating shut ur mouths
It's just the real niggas ain't buying that shit ya put out
Swift ripped the shit outta Ja.. and Obie had a dope vers aswell..
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My memory is a little faded, and I wasn't paying attention 'til I noticed whut I was seeing. The concept of the video is Ja Rule was arrested and being tried in court, and Irv was also being tried, or he was his lawyer or something, I dunno. Ja Rule was released of all charges, and he exits the courthouse and there is cameras everywhere. There's a huge crowd, and suddenly you see a girl start screaming, they flash a picture of Pac, then one of Biggie, then it goes back to the scene and you see Ja Rule has been shot, it flashes another pic of Pac, another of Big, then it goes back to the scene and it shows Ja Rule die on the grown with a little smirk on his face, and they again flash the pictures. This isn't 100% accurate, but is generally how it went down.
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I agree... "Loose Change" was easily as good as any Em/50/Shady diss tracks, and had many great punchlines. Ja's attacks on Dre hit hard too...
"Em, you claim your mother's a crackhead and Kim is a known slut, so what's Hailie gon' be when she grows up?"
Dope ass line... "Hail Mary" was weak, with Em spitting a wack verse and 50 doin nothin but biting 'Pac. Busta Rhymes' verse was the only highlight of this track. "Bump Heads" and "Doe Ray Me" was both good songs, but didn't rip apart Ja in any way. I'd say it's about even at the moment, Ja needs to get Black Child and Caddillac Tah with him now, he can't go at the whole Shady/Aftermath all alone.
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i dont like loose change, ja said dumb thing and all he did was yell, i think the diss tracks on green lantern werent as good as nail in a coffin, but it seems to me that eminem and 50 didnt even start yet
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and 50 doin nothin but biting 'Pac.
So everytime someone remakes a song they are "biting" them? Snoop was biting Slick Rick on "Lodi Dodi"? Jay-Z was biting Slick Rick on "The Ruler's Back"?
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yeah kev b talkin real on this one, i agree, on a diss track........all 50 did was bite pac, it dont matta if ppl don it befo, its still wack.........busta hada good verse n thats it on hail mary im my opinion as in new,lol
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I don't think Ja got at Dre too much.. he called him a faget, said he wears thongs, and takes transvestites home with him, and in the process ruined the flow because none of those lines rhymed haha. Anyway, I really wish Dre would come back at him, with anything.. even 2 lines in a song, jus' speakin' or somethin', but his dope beats are good enough for me (I'm assumin' he made the one for Doe Ray Me?). Ja got at Lil' Mo good, that was one of my favorite lines in the song: "And Lil' Mo, you jus one of them bitches, who hasn't had a hit in how long? NEVER. You're better off with a dick in your mouth, shut up!" Loose Change was pretty good, but Who Shot At Ya was pathetic.. he had one, maybe two good lines, and he keeps screaming about how Murder Inc is the most dangerous label or some nonsense.. Thing about Ja is he's only made 2 disses and in the process has gotten at about 20 people, and hit maybe 5 (I'm givin' him some slack here) of them hard. Meanwhile the whole Shady/Aftermath/friends crew has had about 10 all-out disses and a handful of songs with disses in them, and they only are dissin' on 4 people tops (Irv, Ja, Benz, Ashanti).
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lyrical G is a ja rule groupie ::)
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and 50 doin nothin but biting 'Pac.
So everytime someone remakes a song they are "biting" them? Snoop was biting Slick Rick on "Lodi Dodi"? Jay-Z was biting Slick Rick on "The Ruler's Back"?
Every bar 50 spat on "Hail Mary" was either directly copied or derived from one of 2Pac's rhymes. Not only did he bite from the OG "Hail Mary", his verse also included a large portion of 'Pac's rhymes from "Against All Odds". I find it funny when Eminem's claiming that "Ja's words being quoted in The Source, stealing 'Pac's shit like he just wrote it" and the next moment he's spitting a rhyme straight outta Tupac's mouth. This is the kind of contradictions I don't like, which has caused me to dislike this song. Yes, they were biting. So did Snoop on "Lodi Dodi", and Jay-Z too on "The Ruler's Back", Jay-Z to a lesser extent. In my opinion.
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Every bar 50 spat on "Hail Mary" was either directly copied or derived from one of 2Pac's rhymes. Not only did he bite from the OG "Hail Mary", his verse also included a large portion of 'Pac's rhymes from "Against All Odds". I find it funny when Eminem's claiming that "Ja's words being quoted in The Source, stealing 'Pac's shit like he just wrote it" and the next moment he's spitting a rhyme straight outta Tupac's mouth. This is the kind of contradictions I don't like, which has caused me to dislike this song. Yes, they were biting. So did Snoop on "Lodi Dodi", and Jay-Z too on "The Ruler's Back", Jay-Z to a lesser extent. In my opinion.
I find it funny how someone listens to shit like u just described.. listenes to Ja claiming he's pac befor the track starts.. still won't find out what this track is all about..
don't u think Em n 50 are clever enough not to do what exactly what they blame someone for on the same track?
i simple ass 'forum-example'
a dude always writes with 'gangta-keyboard' and and tries to threaten people by claiming OG n gangbanger n shit.. and another dude tell him
biatch, thiz muziCc talk rite here stop
actin all hardmu'fucka or elze imahave ta whuup yo bitchazz, dun think im playn.. u bout ta c ma gatz hollarin at yo lil triCc azz
would u blame him for doing exactly the shit he's blaiming that other dude for?
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lyrical G is a ja rule groupie ::)
lol pleeez, i aint gonna waste my time on gettin kalled a ja groupie
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lol I love this
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for real, loose change was strickly dope IMO. Just by that verse EM has alot to live up to, even if it is only Ja.
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for real, loose change was strickly dope IMO. Just by that verse EM has alot to live up to, even if it is only Ja.
ya and he did.. Bump Heads was betta than loose change and it wasn't even serious
'me n Hailie dance to ya songs we like u' shit like that is just clowning, he didn't try to act hard like Ja did when he really is a bitch
don't overrate ja's shit just cuz it's way above the rnb tracks he usually does
Swifty Em and Obie ripped him without a doubt
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Swifty Em and Obie ripped him without a doubt
Yup.
But I still think there's gonna be a proper solo-diss from Em to Ja.
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Swifty Em and Obie ripped him without a doubt
Yup.
But I still think there's gonna be a proper solo-diss from Em to Ja.
yea there should be one
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Every bar 50 spat on "Hail Mary" was either directly copied or derived from one of 2Pac's rhymes. Not only did he bite from the OG "Hail Mary", his verse also included a large portion of 'Pac's rhymes from "Against All Odds". I find it funny when Eminem's claiming that "Ja's words being quoted in The Source, stealing 'Pac's shit like he just wrote it" and the next moment he's spitting a rhyme straight outta Tupac's mouth. This is the kind of contradictions I don't like, which has caused me to dislike this song. Yes, they were biting. So did Snoop on "Lodi Dodi", and Jay-Z too on "The Ruler's Back", Jay-Z to a lesser extent. In my opinion.
I find it funny how someone listens to shit like u just described.. listenes to Ja claiming he's pac befor the track starts.. still won't find out what this track is all about..
Oh I get it, this track is all about biting 'Pac... Come on dude, Ja hit them hard with "Loose Change" and all they do on their response is bite old 2Pac lyrics, maybe changing a word or two here and there... I'm sure Ja could rip up 50 if he set his mind to it, as he is a much better battle rapper. If you compare "Back Down" to "Loose Change", 50 doesn't come close.
Sometimes you gotta be objective, and acknowledge a dope diss track when you hear one. I'm not a huge fan of Ja Rule either, but I calls em how I sees em. And tired of all these Eminem groupies... (naming no names)
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Every bar 50 spat on "Hail Mary" was either directly copied or derived from one of 2Pac's rhymes. Not only did he bite from the OG "Hail Mary", his verse also included a large portion of 'Pac's rhymes from "Against All Odds". I find it funny when Eminem's claiming that "Ja's words being quoted in The Source, stealing 'Pac's shit like he just wrote it" and the next moment he's spitting a rhyme straight outta Tupac's mouth. This is the kind of contradictions I don't like, which has caused me to dislike this song. Yes, they were biting. So did Snoop on "Lodi Dodi", and Jay-Z too on "The Ruler's Back", Jay-Z to a lesser extent. In my opinion.
I find it funny how someone listens to shit like u just described.. listenes to Ja claiming he's pac befor the track starts.. still won't find out what this track is all about..
Oh I get it, this track is all about biting 'Pac... Come on dude, Ja hit them hard with "Loose Change" and all they do on their response is bite old 2Pac lyrics, maybe changing a word or two here and there... I'm sure Ja could rip up 50 if he set his mind to it, as he is a much better battle rapper. If you compare "Back Down" to "Loose Change", 50 doesn't come close.
Sometimes you gotta be objective, and acknowledge a dope diss track when you hear one. I'm not a huge fan of Ja Rule either, but I calls em how I sees em. And tired of all these Eminem groupies... (naming no names)
'come on dude' it isn't that hard.. this track is about Ja's bitin and at the same time it's a parody.. that's not what i guess but what I know.. like i said before they confirmed that in a mail to Dedicato
and I wasn't talking about what Ja might be able to do 'if he set his mind to it' but about 1.Eminem and Shady records rippin Ja 2.Eminem and 50 not just 'biting' Pac but clowning Ja Rule by 'biting' Pac.. so there's no need to trip
and Em is dope but he's far from being my fav artists and i wouldn't hate on nobody just for having beef with him.. u don't wanna tell me only Em groupies hate Ja and there's ANY lack of real reasons to hate him do u..?
dunno if u was refering to me but if so u betta come up with more than calling me an Em groupie cuz that's a joke
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Every bar 50 spat on "Hail Mary" was either directly copied or derived from one of 2Pac's rhymes. Not only did he bite from the OG "Hail Mary", his verse also included a large portion of 'Pac's rhymes from "Against All Odds". I find it funny when Eminem's claiming that "Ja's words being quoted in The Source, stealing 'Pac's shit like he just wrote it" and the next moment he's spitting a rhyme straight outta Tupac's mouth. This is the kind of contradictions I don't like, which has caused me to dislike this song. Yes, they were biting. So did Snoop on "Lodi Dodi", and Jay-Z too on "The Ruler's Back", Jay-Z to a lesser extent. In my opinion.
I find it funny how someone listens to shit like u just described.. listenes to Ja claiming he's pac befor the track starts.. still won't find out what this track is all about..
Oh I get it, this track is all about biting 'Pac... Come on dude, Ja hit them hard with "Loose Change" and all they do on their response is bite old 2Pac lyrics, maybe changing a word or two here and there... I'm sure Ja could rip up 50 if he set his mind to it, as he is a much better battle rapper. If you compare "Back Down" to "Loose Change", 50 doesn't come close.
Sometimes you gotta be objective, and acknowledge a dope diss track when you hear one. I'm not a huge fan of Ja Rule either, but I calls em how I sees em. And tired of all these Eminem groupies... (naming no names)
'come on dude' it isn't that hard.. this track is about Ja's bitin and at the same time it's a parody.. that's not what i guess but what I know.. like i said before they confirmed that in a mail to Dedicato
and I wasn't talking about what Ja might be able to do 'if he set his mind to it' but about 1.Eminem and Shady records rippin Ja 2.Eminem and 50 not just 'biting' Pac but clowning Ja Rule by 'biting' Pac.. so there's no need to trip
and Em is dope but he's far from being my fav artists and i wouldn't hate on nobody just for having beef with him.. u don't wanna tell me only Em groupies hate Ja and there's ANY lack of real reasons to hate him do u..?
dunno if u was refering to me but if so u betta come up with more than calling me an Em groupie cuz that's a joke
It's all good, I'm not gonna argue more back and forth about this... you have your opinion and I have mine. Peace. ;)
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It's all good, I'm not gonna argue more back and forth about this... you have your opinion and I have mine. Peace. ;)
aight snitch so u see i was right..?
;) nah it's alright
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And tired of all these Eminem groupies... (naming no names)
word the fuck up dawg
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I can't understand why people call it bitting when someone flips a 2Pac line or remakes one of his songs but when it's done to a Slick Rick or a Rakim it's paying homage or making a remake.