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Title: Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 06, 2004, 10:02:27 AM
I was watching a 9/11 documentary the other night and they were talking about how firefighters didn't do shit on 9/11 and that they actually caused more deaths by going up the same stairs civilans were walking down...causing a big backup.

Just thought I would share with you all  ;)

Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Trauma-san on April 06, 2004, 03:55:32 PM
So now your hatred for the president has spilled over into hating innocent low paid people chosen to protect you from disaster, most of whom in your particular hate demographic DIED doing such.  

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: ecrazy on April 06, 2004, 11:53:25 PM

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?

I was thinking the same thing.....Didnt Do Shit?? Well if they were heading up the building it MEANS THEY WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING....they tryed to help and helped many escape...what documentry did u watch?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:45:37 AM

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?
what documentry did u watch?


Probably an Arab one...
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:55:58 AM
^ Saying that firefighters didn't really help much doesn't really benefit Arabs in any way.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:09:35 AM
^ Saying that firefighters didn't really help much doesn't really benefit Arabs in any way.


Arabs like making up shit though... ;D
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:18:38 AM
So do Israelis  ;D

Read up on the Levon Affair.
In 1954, the Israeli government plotted to blow up American installations in 2 main Egyptian cities and blame it on Egyptian nationals. The plot was uncovered and the Israeli prime minister Pinhas Lavon had to resign because his retarded plan didn't work. That's the Lavon Affair.

So, if you want to talk about making up shit, look at your own people first, and then focus on others. Lied to the U.S. government for sympathey. And didn't the prime minister of Israel at the time of 9/11 say that the WTC attack was "very good and very helpful for Israel" in that it would create a lot of support for Israel. How can he turn 4000 people dying into a good thing. How selfish.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:57:39 AM
So do Israelis  ;D

Read up on the Levon Affair.
In 1954, the Israeli government plotted to blow up American installations in 2 main Egyptian cities and blame it on Egyptian nationals. The plot was uncovered and the Israeli prime minister Pinhas Lavon had to resign because his retarded plan didn't work. That's the Lavon Affair.

So, if you want to talk about making up shit, look at your own people first, and then focus on others. Lied to the U.S. government for sympathey. And didn't the prime minister of Israel at the time of 9/11 say that the WTC attack was "very good and very helpful for Israel" in that it would create a lot of support for Israel. How can he turn 4000 people dying into a good thing. How selfish.


Nobody said Israelis don't make up shit...But only an Arab would make up shit about 9/11...LOL
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 03:00:13 AM
Or, since the Israeli government likes attacking the U.S. and blaming it on the Arabs, maybe the Israelis were successful on 9/11. They might actually have been successful after all those previous attempts they were busted on.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 03:03:46 AM
Or, since the Israeli government likes attacking the U.S. and blaming it on the Arabs, maybe the Israelis were successful on 9/11. They might actually have been successful after all those previous attempts they were busted on.


Maybe...I doubt it though.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 03:10:26 AM
We all have our doubts. :)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 07, 2004, 03:23:17 AM
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 04:34:36 AM
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it

LMAO. You do know that the U.S. government KNOWS that Israel was responsible for those attacks on the U.S. installations in 1954 in addition to the attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty, right? Well, the fact that Israel is "the biggest friend" as you call it, is what discouraged the U.S. to take any action. The Lavon Affair the U.S. did not do anything about is because the Israeli prime minister resigned right after the plot was uncovered. With the Liberty, it was different. At first, they didn't know Israel was responsible, and it was all over the news. As soon as they found out Israel purposely did this, the U.S. congress (heavily influenced by Jewish lobbyists even at that time) downplayed it. The story disappeared from the news, and they just told Israel to get the fuck out of the area.

That leads me to another story. Did you hear about the 5 Israeli Mossad (secret service) agents who were arrested on 9/11 for cheering in the streets, driving around in a van with explosive material, and a video camera containing footage of the Sears Tower? Now I would figure this would be HUGE news, but not in this country. Once again, the story quickly disappeared from the news, and many people STILL don't know about it. Let me give you a summary of what happened, and then I will post up a couple links so you can read for yourself.

A few months before the attack several Israeli Mossad agents were caught trying to sneak across the Canadian border into Washington state with fake ID, in white moving vans. Well, on 9/11, people in NYC were calling the cops telling them about "arab looking" guys in a white van driving around the city, cheering after the attack. They were happy. I wonder why. Then the police gets a phone call from an anonymous person saying that "there is going to be an attack on a bridge" (I don't exactly recall which specific bridge, since there's a few in NYC). So, the police is smart enough to close off ALL bridges, and guess who they saw at a bridge different from the one mentioned in the phone call? Yup, the white van with the "arab looking" guys. It was those guys who had called the police, given them info about an attack to be carried out by some arab guys, and told them about a wrong location. That way once it happens, the police will say "those arabs attacked that bridge". But, thanks to our intelligent police force, that did not happen. The guys were caught, and eventually identified as ISRAELI secret service agents aka Mossad. Then there was something about the lawyer first claiming a certain number of defendants and then changing that number, which caused some people to think that maybe there were 2 vans. Anyways, those guys were locked up for a couple weeks, then simply sent back to Israel. That's it. No punishment. Here's the funniest part of all: one of the guys is interviewed in Israel by a reporter, and you know what he tells the reporter? "We were there to document the event". LMAO. How the fuck did he know there was going to be an event, and why was he cheering?

By the way, the motto for the Mossad is: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html)

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html (http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html)

For those that only trust major newspaper articles here's something out of the NY Times:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm)

Even ABCNews left the article up. I'm surprised.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html)

Well, maybe U.S. Army Officers know better than I do, so here is something else:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html (http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html)



Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 06:12:55 AM
It was on NOVA but the whole documentary was not focused on firefighters.

They were not heroic on 9/11 they just fucked everything up.


lol@Arab documentaries.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Trauma-san on April 07, 2004, 06:19:15 AM
Another thread spins wildly out of control.  If you find it in your heart to condemn firefighters who died trying to save people's lives, you're an asshole, simple as that.  I hope you have a fucking change of heart one of these days, your hate has started to encompass even the simplest human emotions a fucking child is born with.  
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 06:27:49 AM
Another thread spins wildly out of control.  If you find it in your heart to condemn firefighters who died trying to save people's lives, you're an asshole, simple as that.  I hope you have a fucking change of heart one of these days, your hate has started to encompass even the simplest human emotions a fucking child is born with.  

I only feel sorry for the first group of firefighters that didn't know the first building would fall. The rest are fuking stupid.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Woodrow on April 07, 2004, 12:50:42 PM
Max...

Why do you contiune to post in here? Your "Last Post" was supposed to be ages ago.

Stick to beating off to she-males.

You've proven time and time again that you don't have a clue about:
1.)Politics
2.)War
3.)Women

You're pretty much useless and look like a moron to everybody that reads your posts.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:05:04 PM
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it

LMAO. You do know that the U.S. government KNOWS that Israel was responsible for those attacks on the U.S. installations in 1954 in addition to the attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty, right? Well, the fact that Israel is "the biggest friend" as you call it, is what discouraged the U.S. to take any action. The Lavon Affair the U.S. did not do anything about is because the Israeli prime minister resigned right after the plot was uncovered. With the Liberty, it was different. At first, they didn't know Israel was responsible, and it was all over the news. As soon as they found out Israel purposely did this, the U.S. congress (heavily influenced by Jewish lobbyists even at that time) downplayed it. The story disappeared from the news, and they just told Israel to get the fuck out of the area.

That leads me to another story. Did you hear about the 5 Israeli Mossad (secret service) agents who were arrested on 9/11 for cheering in the streets, driving around in a van with explosive material, and a video camera containing footage of the Sears Tower? Now I would figure this would be HUGE news, but not in this country. Once again, the story quickly disappeared from the news, and many people STILL don't know about it. Let me give you a summary of what happened, and then I will post up a couple links so you can read for yourself.

A few months before the attack several Israeli Mossad agents were caught trying to sneak across the Canadian border into Washington state with fake ID, in white moving vans. Well, on 9/11, people in NYC were calling the cops telling them about "arab looking" guys in a white van driving around the city, cheering after the attack. They were happy. I wonder why. Then the police gets a phone call from an anonymous person saying that "there is going to be an attack on a bridge" (I don't exactly recall which specific bridge, since there's a few in NYC). So, the police is smart enough to close off ALL bridges, and guess who they saw at a bridge different from the one mentioned in the phone call? Yup, the white van with the "arab looking" guys. It was those guys who had called the police, given them info about an attack to be carried out by some arab guys, and told them about a wrong location. That way once it happens, the police will say "those arabs attacked that bridge". But, thanks to our intelligent police force, that did not happen. The guys were caught, and eventually identified as ISRAELI secret service agents aka Mossad. Then there was something about the lawyer first claiming a certain number of defendants and then changing that number, which caused some people to think that maybe there were 2 vans. Anyways, those guys were locked up for a couple weeks, then simply sent back to Israel. That's it. No punishment. Here's the funniest part of all: one of the guys is interviewed in Israel by a reporter, and you know what he tells the reporter? "We were there to document the event". LMAO. How the fuck did he know there was going to be an event, and why was he cheering?

By the way, the motto for the Mossad is: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html)

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html (http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html)

For those that only trust major newspaper articles here's something out of the NY Times:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm)

Even ABCNews left the article up. I'm surprised.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html)

Well, maybe U.S. Army Officers know better than I do, so here is something else:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html (http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html)


Good job going off-topic...This thread was about firefighters on 9/11, and you started talking about something completely different...Does this make sense to anyone?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:11:55 PM
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:17:18 PM
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:21:40 PM
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)

Show me an Arab documentary that was aired in this country. I'd like to see it.

By the way, your specific words were "Arabs like making up shit", which is a generalization. Therefore, I showed you that when it comes to lies, they're not flying solo. If you make a comment generalizing a whole group of people, you can expect someone to show you the other side.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:27:47 PM
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)

Show me an Arab documentary that was aired in this country. I'd like to see it.

LOL...Just because it's not aired in America, that means they can't lie?

http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/pbs-caught.htm (http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/pbs-caught.htm)
http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/60 (http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/60)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:27:57 PM
I just read the article, and it said that things were left out. It didn't say that what was stated was false. All it said is that Israeli and Jewish lobbying groups shitted their pants because the documentary didn't portray the pro-Israeli bias of the story, and they got their panties in a twist because a page was left out on the website. That page didn't even take a pro-Palestinian stance, it just talked about the history of the land, and the last sentence states that neither side has legitamite claim.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:29:46 PM
No, but since Max saw the documentary, and he lives in America, I see your argument going down the drain.


But I just found Arab documentaries that aired in America in a matter of seconds... 8)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:35:04 PM
And the 2nd link doesn't even talk about "lies". It's just an article about an Arab film festival in Canada.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:44:12 PM
So what about the first link?...The second link is about Arab films and documentaries, most of which were aired in America...PeACe
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:49:08 PM
Read my other post, it was edited a few minutes ago.
The first link talks about a documentary ON Arabs, not BY Arabs. Plus, it states that three things were left out. Jewish lobbyists were shitting their pants over that, but what was included in the documentary was all true.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:52:14 PM
You really think Arabs weren't involved in that? LOL
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 01:54:14 PM
I just read the article, and it said that things were left out. It didn't say that what was stated was false. All it said is that Israeli and Jewish lobbying groups shitted their pants because the documentary didn't portray the pro-Israeli bias of the story, and they got their panties in a twist because a page was left out on the website. That page didn't even take a pro-Palestinian stance, it just talked about the history of the land, and the last sentence states that neither side has legitamite claim.



All I was showing you was an Arab documentary that aired in America, just like you asked... ::)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:56:47 PM
Show me that they were. Just because you THINK they were, doesn't mean that they were. And even if they were, they didn't "lie". They just didn't show both sides of the story, but even the news doesn't do that. If it's liberals, they bash the right. If it's conservatives, they talk about liberals being socialists, afraid of war, etc. It's all bias.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:58:20 PM
I just read the article, and it said that things were left out. It didn't say that what was stated was false. All it said is that Israeli and Jewish lobbying groups shitted their pants because the documentary didn't portray the pro-Israeli bias of the story, and they got their panties in a twist because a page was left out on the website. That page didn't even take a pro-Palestinian stance, it just talked about the history of the land, and the last sentence states that neither side has legitamite claim.



All I was showing you was an Arab documentary that aired in America, just like you asked... ::)

1. I asked for one because I wanted to see one, not because I didn't believe they existed.

2. You still didn't prove that Arabs LIED in documentaries.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:19:06 PM
Jenin Jenin
Released in DVD by Arab Film Distribution (18 December, 2002)
Director: Mohamed Bakri

This film is a documentary of the Israeli action in the Jenin Refugee camp in 2002. Israeli troops went charging into this camp in response to numerous terrorist bombings. The army had intelligence that the camp was literally chalk full of terrorists and weapons. During the fighting that ensued rumors leaked out that a 'massacre' had taken place. The western media quickly arrived and interviewed left wing Israeli activists and Palestinian 'survivors'. The Palestinians told a tale of mass graves and 'genocide' and a little known Israeli Arab (Arab living in Israel) took up a crusade to 'document' the 'massacre'. This film is his documentary. It details a series of interviews of Palestinians who supposedly witnessed the Israel incursion and the subsequent battle. These Palestinians all claim to have witnessed the mass murder of their compatriots at the hands of non-other then the butcher of Sabra and Shatilla, Arik Sharon.
Of course this is one half of the story. The second half is that this documentary is mostly propaganda and hyperbole and does not bother to reveal the subsequent investigation by the U.N, Israel and other bodies that concluded only 30 people had been killed, almost all of whom were young men who were probably combatants. The Investigation proved beyond doubt that a 'massacre' had not taken place. The investigations also proved that the Israeli army had gone to great lengths to not harm civilians, but due to the crowded nature of the camp some civilians had been killed, by mistake. 'Jenin Jenin' is a battle cry that was created to infuse westerners with hate towards Israel. The documentary tries to show that Israel is a veritable 'fascist' state that routinely rounds up Palestinians and massacres them. This film is almost all lies and the interviewees either were telling lies or they simply had thought they witnessed something that was incorrect. Frequently during the fog of war it may seem that hundreds of people are being killed when in reality only a few actually die and most end up wounded from shrapnel. This is frequently the case in a small arms fire fight, it may seem like a terrible battle but subsequent casualty lists will show it to be mostly bloodless. The Palestinians saw hundreds of tanks and Israeli soldiers and the volume of fire certainly made them feel that a massacre was taking place. But the documentary doesn't include any of the actual footage of the conclusions of the investigators, and its images are mostly propaganda meant to convey that terrible destruction took place when in reality a small portion of the camp was damaged. Recommended reading to accompany this film is 'Image and Reality' by Finkelstein, 'Case for Israel' by Dershowitz and 'The new anti-Semitism' by Foxman. This will help balance this very biased documentary.

---Seth Frantzman November 17th 2003


Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:22:49 PM
Jenin Jenin
Released in DVD by Arab Film Distribution (18 December, 2002)
Director: Mohamed Bakri

This film is a documentary of the Israeli action in the Jenin Refugee camp in 2002. Israeli troops went charging into this camp in response to numerous terrorist bombings. The army had intelligence that the camp was literally chalk full of terrorists and weapons. During the fighting that ensued rumors leaked out that a 'massacre' had taken place. The western media quickly arrived and interviewed left wing Israeli activists and Palestinian 'survivors'. The Palestinians told a tale of mass graves and 'genocide' and a little known Israeli Arab (Arab living in Israel) took up a crusade to 'document' the 'massacre'. This film is his documentary. It details a series of interviews of Palestinians who supposedly witnessed the Israel incursion and the subsequent battle. These Palestinians all claim to have witnessed the mass murder of their compatriots at the hands of non-other then the butcher of Sabra and Shatilla, Arik Sharon.
Of course this is one half of the story. The second half is that this documentary is mostly propaganda and hyperbole and does not bother to reveal the subsequent investigation by the U.N, Israel and other bodies that concluded only 30 people had been killed, almost all of whom were young men who were probably combatants. The Investigation proved beyond doubt that a 'massacre' had not taken place. The investigations also proved that the Israeli army had gone to great lengths to not harm civilians, but due to the crowded nature of the camp some civilians had been killed, by mistake. 'Jenin Jenin' is a battle cry that was created to infuse westerners with hate towards Israel. The documentary tries to show that Israel is a veritable 'fascist' state that routinely rounds up Palestinians and massacres them. This film is almost all lies and the interviewees either were telling lies or they simply had thought they witnessed something that was incorrect. Frequently during the fog of war it may seem that hundreds of people are being killed when in reality only a few actually die and most end up wounded from shrapnel. This is frequently the case in a small arms fire fight, it may seem like a terrible battle but subsequent casualty lists will show it to be mostly bloodless. The Palestinians saw hundreds of tanks and Israeli soldiers and the volume of fire certainly made them feel that a massacre was taking place. But the documentary doesn't include any of the actual footage of the conclusions of the investigators, and its images are mostly propaganda meant to convey that terrible destruction took place when in reality a small portion of the camp was damaged. Recommended reading to accompany this film is 'Image and Reality' by Finkelstein, 'Case for Israel' by Dershowitz and 'The new anti-Semitism' by Foxman. This will help balance this very biased documentary.

---Seth Frantzman November 17th 2003




Now check if he's Jewish.

Plus, if you actually read my post, it says "these things are bound to be biased" just in the same way that a documentary by Israelis would be. If the news can't tell both sides of a story, then people creating a documentary would never.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:23:57 PM
Now I could also claim that the person who wrote that article is a liar, couldn't I?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:26:24 PM
As a matter of fact, I will bet anything the guy is Israeli and/or Jewish. If he isn't, I will delete my account.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:27:51 PM
Seth is not an Israeli/Jewish name...He could be an American Jew, but I highly doubt it....
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:32:20 PM
Know How to Uncover Anti-Semitic literature
by Seth Frantzman, Semite, Historian

Understand the classical and modern Jewish texts
by Seth Frantzman, Jewish Historian
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:33:57 PM
Guess he's an American Jew...I still agree with his review...PeACe

Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:35:59 PM
Semite = American?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:37:27 PM
Semite = Jewish
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:37:38 PM
Point is, being that he's Jewish, his REVIEW could be just as biased. Like I said, there's always more than one side to a story.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:38:55 PM
Semite = Jewish

This is where you're wrong buddy.

Main Entry: Semˇite
Pronunciation: 'se-"mIt, esp British 'sE-"mIt
Function: noun
Etymology: French sémite, from Semitic Shem, from Late Latin, from Greek SEm, from Hebrew ShEm
Date: 1848
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs b : a descendant of these peoples

WHERE DOES IT MENTION JEWISH?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:39:40 PM
This is where you're wrong...


Semite:

Noun
1. A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians. 2. A Jew. 3. Bible A descendant of Shem.
Etymology
Back-formation from Semitic.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:41:29 PM
Seth Frantzman, an Israeli historian...
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:46:23 PM
^^and wheres that from? I highly doubt you'll ever find an Israeli with the name Seth...LOL
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:48:14 PM
He can be a historian on Israeli issues...Just like there are WWII historians...PeACe
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:49:45 PM
Came up on Yahoo. :)
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 02:53:06 PM
NIK you lost.

FuNk-U-uP = 1
NIK = 0

NIK you got a new friend  ;D



Let not talk about Israeli influenced programming in America.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 02:53:49 PM
Yup, and in the same sense there are some German historians who claim the Holocaust never happened. Is that bias to you or no?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 02:54:35 PM
Max...

Why do you contiune to post in here? Your "Last Post" was supposed to be ages ago.

Stick to beating off to she-males.

You've proven time and time again that you don't have a clue about:
1.)Politics
2.)War
3.)Women

You're pretty much useless and look like a moron to everybody that reads your posts.

Show me a picture...right wing biaaaaaaaaatch  ;D
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 02:55:43 PM
NIK you lost.

FuNk-U-uP = 1
NIK = 0

NIK you got a new friend  ;D



Let not talk about Israeli influenced programming in America.


How did I lose? He said to find him an Arab documentary aired in America, I found him one...He said to find him one that tells lies, I found him one...He said semite doesn't mean Jewish, and again, I proved him wrong on that too...You, my friend, are biased.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 03:11:38 PM
1. I asked for an Arab documentary, not because I didn't believe you that they existed, but because I wanted to actually know about it for my personal knowledge. I didn't say "you liar. arab documentaries dont exist. show me that they do", that's how you seemed to have perceived my asking for one.

2. A Jewish, Israeli historian saying that an Arab documentary is full of lies, to me is biased. I admitted before, and I will say it again, documentaries are biased. If the news is biased, documentaries are bound to be.

3. I asked "Semite = American?", because I didn't know. I didn't state Semites were not American, I asked. I thought you being a Jew, you would know what your people are referred to better than I do. Then I found a dictionary entry, that stated that Semites are from the southwestern Asian region aka the Middle East and are of certain descent. Then you found a different entry defining a Semite as a Jew. Now I read on a Jewish site that a Semite is a person who holds cultural aspects of the people from that region such as the language. So basically there are different interpretations of that word, since the word could also be used to identify an Arab who isn't a Jew.

Basically, you didn't prove me wrong on anything. You answered my questions, that's all.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 03:15:47 PM
NIK you lost.

FuNk-U-uP = 1
NIK = 0

NIK you got a new friend  ;D



Let not talk about Israeli influenced programming in America.


How did I lose? He said to find him an Arab documentary aired in America, I found him one...He said to find him one that tells lies, I found him one...He said semite doesn't mean Jewish, and again, I proved him wrong on that too...You, my friend, are biased.

Duhhh just like you were bias in the other post with me and Inglewood  ;D

NIK you started all this with your pointless statement.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2004, 03:15:59 PM
1. I asked for an Arab documentary, not because I didn't believe you that they existed, but because I wanted to actually know about it for my personal knowledge. I didn't say "you liar. arab documentaries dont exist. show me that they do", that's how you seemed to have perceived my asking for one.

2. A Jewish, Israeli historian saying that an Arab documentary is full of lies, to me is biased. I admitted before, and I will say it again, documentaries are biased. If the news is biased, documentaries are bound to be.

3. I asked "Semite = American?", because I didn't know. I didn't state Semites were not American, I asked. I thought you being a Jew, you would know what your people are referred to better than I do. Then I found a dictionary entry, that stated that Semites are from the southwestern Asian region aka the Middle East and are of certain descent. Then you found a different entry defining a Semite as a Jew. Now I read on a Jewish site that a Semite is a person who holds cultural aspects of the people from that region such as the language. So basically there are different interpretations of that word, since the word could also be used to identify an Arab who isn't a Jew.

Basically, you didn't prove me wrong on anything. You answered my questions, that's all.


I still don't get how I lost...We just have different opinions on things...In my opinion, the documentary lied.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 03:18:48 PM
Hey NIK I'm not bias...I'm a Semite  ;) (ne.african)


Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 03:22:58 PM
1. I asked for an Arab documentary, not because I didn't believe you that they existed, but because I wanted to actually know about it for my personal knowledge. I didn't say "you liar. arab documentaries dont exist. show me that they do", that's how you seemed to have perceived my asking for one.

2. A Jewish, Israeli historian saying that an Arab documentary is full of lies, to me is biased. I admitted before, and I will say it again, documentaries are biased. If the news is biased, documentaries are bound to be.

3. I asked "Semite = American?", because I didn't know. I didn't state Semites were not American, I asked. I thought you being a Jew, you would know what your people are referred to better than I do. Then I found a dictionary entry, that stated that Semites are from the southwestern Asian region aka the Middle East and are of certain descent. Then you found a different entry defining a Semite as a Jew. Now I read on a Jewish site that a Semite is a person who holds cultural aspects of the people from that region such as the language. So basically there are different interpretations of that word, since the word could also be used to identify an Arab who isn't a Jew.

Basically, you didn't prove me wrong on anything. You answered my questions, that's all.


I still don't get how I lost...We just have different opinions on things...In my opinion, the documentary lied.

Yup. I never said you lost, I just said I didn't lose. Max is just being the idiot that he is.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 03:25:06 PM
1. I asked for an Arab documentary, not because I didn't believe you that they existed, but because I wanted to actually know about it for my personal knowledge. I didn't say "you liar. arab documentaries dont exist. show me that they do", that's how you seemed to have perceived my asking for one.

2. A Jewish, Israeli historian saying that an Arab documentary is full of lies, to me is biased. I admitted before, and I will say it again, documentaries are biased. If the news is biased, documentaries are bound to be.

3. I asked "Semite = American?", because I didn't know. I didn't state Semites were not American, I asked. I thought you being a Jew, you would know what your people are referred to better than I do. Then I found a dictionary entry, that stated that Semites are from the southwestern Asian region aka the Middle East and are of certain descent. Then you found a different entry defining a Semite as a Jew. Now I read on a Jewish site that a Semite is a person who holds cultural aspects of the people from that region such as the language. So basically there are different interpretations of that word, since the word could also be used to identify an Arab who isn't a Jew.

Basically, you didn't prove me wrong on anything. You answered my questions, that's all.


I still don't get how I lost...We just have different opinions on things...In my opinion, the documentary lied.

Yup. I never said you lost, I just said I didn't lose. Max is just being the idiot that he is.

No...I had a point that didn't relate to you.

Dipset Bitch  ;D
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 03:27:28 PM
Didn't relate to me?

You fuckin moron. When you said "Funk U Up = 1" and "NIK you found yourself a new friend"... that didn't relate to me? Go eat a dog.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 03:39:54 PM
Didn't relate to me?

You fuckin moron. When you said "Funk U Up = 1" and "NIK you found yourself a new friend"... that didn't relate to me? Go eat a dog.

You were a tool...I was just using you.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 04:14:56 PM
Didn't relate to me?

You fuckin moron. When you said "Funk U Up = 1" and "NIK you found yourself a new friend"... that didn't relate to me? Go eat a dog.

You were a tool...I was just using you.

At least be original with your comments. Don't use the same line your dad used on your mom. Must bring back some childhood memories huh?
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 04:22:19 PM
Didn't relate to me?

You fuckin moron. When you said "Funk U Up = 1" and "NIK you found yourself a new friend"... that didn't relate to me? Go eat a dog.

You were a tool...I was just using you.

At least be original with your comments. Don't use the same line your dad used on your mom. Must bring back some childhood memories huh?

Hardy har har comeback when you think of something else to say.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 04:31:15 PM
There's no reason for me to come back with something else to say, since you couldn't even respond to my initial comment. In other words, you may now remove thyself off my nuts and move on.
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: JTSimon on April 07, 2004, 04:34:21 PM
There's no reason for me to come back with something else to say, since you couldn't even respond to my initial comment. In other words, you may now remove thyself off my nuts and move on.

lol who got a new account.

Your a cool guy  ;D
Title: Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
Post by: GoodLuvn169 on April 07, 2004, 05:55:15 PM
Stop being a coward, and stop taking things out of context, and stop watching fucked up documentaries >:(