West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on October 17, 2012, 02:09:01 PM
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I'm on a drive to St. Louis right now (going to be street performin freestylin on the street corners for change) and anyway I'm bumpin the Firm album, this shit really ain't bad.
It starts off blazin with a couple of Dre produced joints. Everyone already knows "phone tap" is a certified banger. Then the album falls alseep and loses focus as Foxy Browns fine ass drops a few filler tracks in the middle.
Canibus brings the album back to life. "5 minutes to flush" is pretty dope, then the Canibus joint is otherworldly dope, later in the album CNN makes a dope guest appearance, and then finally the album finishes on a high note with AZ and the gods blessing the mic on the closing track.
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True.
It's a 3.5/5 album for me. It's above average by todays standards.
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It wasn't "bad" in the traditional sense, but for what a collaboration between those artists could have been it was.
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wasent that good either
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True.
It's a 3.5/5 album for me. It's above average by todays standards.
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wasent that good either
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I remember it being pretty good they just really really really fucked up with "firm biz" and i think there was another shitty song or two very similar.
Had too much hype was never going to live up to expectation. Plus nature replacing cormega was always going to be an issue.
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I like the album, shits on most albums released these days.
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Had too much hype was never going to live up to expectation.
Exactly, fuckers cant leave well enough alone
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I like the album, shits on most albums released these days.
Yeah, that's why I would never call it a bad album. It's just pretty weak that such huge figures in hip hop could only come up with that.
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It wasn't "bad" in the traditional sense, but for what a collaboration between those artists could have been it was.
Exactly. It should have been an amazing album.
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(going to be street performin freestylin on the street corners for change)
stopped taking you serious after this
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(going to be street performin freestylin on the street corners for change)
stopped taking you serious after this
I actually missed that part. What's the appeal in St. Louis?
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It wasn't "bad" in the traditional sense, but for what a collaboration between those artists could have been it was.
Exactly. It should have been an amazing album.
Yeah with NAS, AZ and Dre coming off their recent albums and the hype around foxy shit should have been classic. The single roll out was horrible as well and really fucked up the hype.
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I actually missed that part. What's the appeal in St. Louis?
St. Louis has no appeal really. It's just that I wouldn't feel free busking in my own city. I want to be in an unfamiliar place where nobody knows me, free of expectation and all inhibition...
...So that I can enter the city like a jinn from a long-forgotten time, have people witness something they've never seen before, and then disapear into the night like a ghost, leaving them to wonder if what they saw was really real.
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I actually missed that part. What's the appeal in St. Louis?
St. Louis has no appeal really. It's just that I wouldn't feel free busking in my own city. I want to be in an unfamiliar place where nobody knows me, free of expectation and all inhibition...
...So that I can enter the city like a jinn from a long-forgotten time, have people witness something they've never seen before, and then disapear into the night like a ghost, leaving them to wonder if what they saw was really real.
How did that go?
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How did that go?
It was a very unique experience. Because it's a very novel pursuit, so there is really no precedent for it. You experience things you wouldn't normally experience. Like, for example, many people would pass by and try to act like they didn't notice me... but you wanna know some crazy shit... I COULD ACTUALLY SENSE WHAT THEY WERE THINKING! It was like a 6th sense I had in that moment that I don't normally have. Not for every passerby, but for many of them. Like an older white lady passed by and I could actually sense what she was thinking, she was thinking, "GET ME A THOUSAND MILES AWAY FROM THIS GUY, QUICK!". Even that was cool, to piss somebody off like that, because I think it speaks to something that's beneath the surface and allows it to be out in the open. Instead of us just being ants in an ant colony.
Then you always get those one or two people that really appreciate it and stop and listen and give you props. That kind of shit makes it all worth it. You really connect on a deeper level, because the type of shit I was freestyling about was was way out there. So when somebody accepts something so fringe it's a cool feeling. It's like recognizing the existence of something that is supposed to remain hidden.
I mean, I'm obviously not the first to ever do it. In fact, I remember one nerdy white dude was doing it out at the plaza here in Kansas City one day back when I was 19, and I joined him for a while. Back then I had a D12 hat on and most my freestyles sounded were like bitten off Em/D12. But the nerdy white dude was fucking dope, he was rapping about aliens coming to take over America and all types of wacked out shit. He wasn't really hustling for change, but actually selling some cd's that he was featured on for about $5.00. I don't think he sold hardly any while I was with him, except for the copy I got. But the dude was cool as fuck, and his girlfriend was there with him and I took them out to eat afterwards. They were two of the most down to earth people I've ever met in my life.
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
It's the anticipointment thing
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
It's the anticipointment thing
yeah just like the Aftermath compilation both albums have as many weak tracks as dope ones
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
word 8)
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
It's the anticipointment thing
yeah just like the Aftermath compilation both albums have as many weak tracks as dope ones
But yet here we are in 2012 and I can still bump both those albums and they still sound good. Both were dissapointing when they dropped, yet they have stood the test of time. No doubt they both had filler, which is probably why Dre hates to rush any album. You can hear in both of them the makings of a classics, they just needed more time. There was probably pressure for Dre to hurry up and drop the Aftermath album because the "East Coast/West Coast Killaz" joint was a very timely track that needed to be released in 96 while the East West beef was still relevent. The the Firm album I think Nas was feeding into his own hype too much at the time with the Nas Escobar thing, and Dre says he only spent like 10 days really working with them, so the album ultimately fell short.
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the firm album was a bust !!!
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the album was good...just not a classic, as most everyone expected when it was announced. still slaps, though
It's the anticipointment thing