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Title: Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Darksider on April 21, 2003, 10:57:32 AM
 
Suge Knight
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"You gotta put a price on fame; it can't be to the point where you'll do anything for a hit." — Suge Knight
 
 
Innuendo, speculation, rumors — Suge Knight says he's going to squash them all and tell the real story of his life and his relationship with Tupac Shakur when he puts out his autobiography in November.

"I got a book coming out, which is called 'American Dream or American Knightmare,' he disclosed a week ago in New York. "I wasn't pumped up to do a book. I felt that most people who do books are in desperate need to grab a few dollars. That wasn't the case with me. I felt there was so many books out speaking on me, speaking on Pac, speaking on Death Row. There's a lot of question marks I need to put periods [on]. It will be aggressive, plus there will be some educational things for the kids."

Knight also said that some MCs should educate themselves on Shakur's history before thinking about using his music. He praised Jay-Z for sampling Tupac's "Me and My Girlfriend," was disappointed by Nas' participation in last year's "Thugz Mansion" and had disdain for Daz because he gave out some unreleased Pac vocals to be used on the street smash "The Realest Killas" with 50 Cent.

"Pac can go hard in the paint on anybody when he wanted to and I'm gonna ride with him regardless, but I know Pac didn't have a real disliking for Jay," Knight said of some of the old disses Shakur levied at Young Hova on the Makaveli album. "[Pac] didn't have a disliking to him where if he saw [Jay] he wanted to try and take his head off.

"I think it was a situation that we get older, we grow," Knight explained signing off on Jay-Z's use of the music from "Me and My Girlfriend" (see "Jay-Z, Beyonce Are 'Bonnie & Clyde' On First Blueprint 2 Single"). "If Jay wanted to do something that he felt great about, if he wants to do something that's positive and is also not being disrespectful to Pac, why not? Sometimes we gotta be able to open our eyes up."

Knight raised an eyebrow when he heard the Tupac/ Nas collaboration "Thugz Mansion" last year (see "On Tupac Video Set, Nas Says Rapper Better Than Shakespeare"). Although Nas was asked to participate in the project by Shakur's estate, Suge said if it were up to him, the two MCs' vocals would have never been on the same track.

"I think it's real disrespectful to Pac," he lamented. "You gotta put a price on fame; it can't be to the point where you'll do anything for a hit. Be a man and have respect. If you can't respect nobody else, respect yourself. Don't go [do a song] knowing a certain individual didn't care for you. I could see Jay-Z doing what he did more than Nas on the same song with Pac, because Nas and Pac is from two different worlds."

Obviously, Dogg Pound gangsta Daz and Tupac were from same world: They were signed to the same label, hung in the same circles and made several recordings together. Still, Knight admitted anger at Daz's use of the Tupac vocals, some of which he independently sold, others he simply gave away. An unreleased Tupac verse has appeared on the song "The Realest Killas," which was produced by Red Spyda and features 50 Cent (see "50 Cent Disses Ja Rule On Tupac Joint; New Biggie Material On The Horizon").

"That's bootleg stuff," Knight calmly iterated. "Anything that Daz did, that's bootleg stuff. It's only obvious anything that 50 Cent do on [a mixtape] with Pac, it's bootleg. You gotta look at the respect level of it."

Knight is planning to release his own Tupac music in conjunction with Shakur's mother, Afeni. He does not know exactly when those songs will see the light of day.

"We still have some stuff on him that is great, but at the same time, it's not about just doing anything on Pac," the label executive clarified.

—Shaheem Reid

Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Young Dan Iza on April 21, 2003, 11:10:57 AM
the reason why suge is hatin on nas and not jayz is becuz jayz gave suge a track for his weak ass soundtrack
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: P Nelson on April 21, 2003, 11:18:05 AM
Suge Knight's presence in the rap game is dissrecpectfull
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Black_Smoke on April 21, 2003, 01:05:48 PM
I thought suge liked nas cause nas is down wit ja and ja is down wit suge

Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Vigilante on April 21, 2003, 01:57:54 PM
Damn there goes my Crooked I/Nas track hopeful.... :(

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Knight also said that some MCs should educate themselves on Shakur's history before thinking about using his music. He praised Jay-Z for sampling Tupac's "Me and My Girlfriend," was disappointed by Nas' participation in last year's "Thugz Mansion" and had disdain for Daz because he gave out some unreleased Pac vocals to be used on the street smash "The Realest Killas" with 50 Cent.
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 21, 2003, 03:30:28 PM
Anyway you look at it...

"Thugz Mansion" > "Me And My Girlfriend"
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: T.J. on April 21, 2003, 03:58:44 PM
Suge Knight's presence in the rap game is dissrecpectfull
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: js83 on April 21, 2003, 04:03:59 PM
jay-z was the one that was bitin pac's whole fucking song...stupid shit.
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on April 21, 2003, 04:21:32 PM
fuck the haters...suge speaks some real shit
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Trauma-san on April 21, 2003, 04:29:44 PM
Thugs Mansion WITHOUT Nas was a lot better anyways.  Nas's version trashed a tupac verse to make? Screw that.  
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: mauzip on April 21, 2003, 05:32:58 PM
i totally agree with suge knight.
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Darksider on April 21, 2003, 07:12:58 PM
i totally agree with suge knight.

Exactly
I liked several tupac remakes but a hate this one but this was and still is only my opinion.............
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: DonCorleone187 on April 21, 2003, 09:05:12 PM
what is disrespectful is some people don't even know that Jay Z took 2pac's song and remade it.  Pac's song was amazing.
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on April 21, 2003, 10:29:30 PM
whoever 'totally' agrees wit Suge on this gotta get his mind right

i actually IS a shame how everyone is tryin to have a hit with Pac's shit but WHO the fuck is the King of all those people that be eatin off pac?

Tha Row and Murda Inc BY FAR.. and somebody who supports a Ja Fool should NOT speak on this issue cuz he makes himself look contradicting as fuck

read 'Nas'' comment.. besides the fact that it wasn't Nas who said it this is way more real talk than Suge's shit
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Darksider on April 22, 2003, 03:52:32 AM
I can`t wait to read the book........
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: PLANT on April 22, 2003, 09:21:12 AM
Suge Knight's presence in the rap game is dissrecpectfull
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on April 22, 2003, 10:05:46 PM
I think Nas would have sounded tight with the 7 remix, but that acousitc version....man, 2Pac would have never layed his vocals over that track (if he was alive).
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: platinumk777 on April 22, 2003, 10:09:54 PM
what the hell is he mumbling about this time? damn, he has something different to say each week, doesn't he?
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Darksider on April 23, 2003, 01:17:58 AM
I think Nas would have sounded tight with the 7 remix, but that acousitc version....man, 2Pac would have never layed his vocals over that track (if he was alive).
i liked nas appearance on  the pledge remix......but tupac and Nas on a slow track like this sounds gay to me.........
Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: Darksider on April 23, 2003, 01:20:00 AM
i think its that interview

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Title: Re:Suge Knight calls the Nas/Tupac track disrespectful
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on April 23, 2003, 09:58:09 AM
I think Nas would have sounded tight with the 7 remix, but that acousitc version....man, 2Pac would have never layed his vocals over that track (if he was alive).
i liked nas appearance on  the pledge remix......but tupac and Nas on a slow track like this sounds gay to me.........

Yes, those were the words I was looking for....it sounds gay!