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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 01, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
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Darren Sproles and Roy Williams
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Ochocinco and Ryan Grant
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sproles williams
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sproles williams
wrong lol
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not a big fan of the Bungals offense long term.
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not a big fan of the Bungals offense long term.
Yeah. Ocho can be a bit risky. First off, I had Sproles and Roy Williams and picked up Ocho and Grant.
My Current lineup (before the trade), I'll list only WR's and RB's cus thats all that matters here
WR's
Marquez Colston
Roy Williams
Santana Moss
Anthony Gonzales
Johnny Knox
RB's
DeAngelo Williams
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
Darren Sproles
Willie Parker
Glen Coffee
This is how I see it. Until Anthony Gonzales gets back (who knows when thatll be) I needed to sure up my WR group. Ocho is definetely > Roy Williams in that category. I like Roy Williams...but simply, Romo is too much of a pussy to throw to his WR's. He only targets Witten. Ocho is getting thrown at much more then Roy Williams is. Ryan Grant is decent, but at least he is the number 1 guy. Sproles has put up good points for me so far in this league, but I think he's peaked early. LT will come back, and even if he isnt as productive as before, Sproles will lose touches to him. Not to mention, defenses will eventually catch up to Sproles and find ways to stop those little dump offs over the middle.
Coffee I'll more then likely dump once Gore is healthy and Julius Jones has been productive this year so far. So Grant will fit nicely, really...I wont use him THAT much.
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yes your analysis is correct. although i wouldnt say ochocinco is that much of an upgrade from roy williams. i purposely stayed away from both of those guys completely in my league
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yes your analysis is correct. although i wouldnt say ochocinco is that much of an upgrade from roy williams. i purposely stayed away from both of those guys completely in my league
esp since chad ADMITS that he wasnt going to score a TD in the "other endzone" at green bay bc he didnt have any ppl there waiting for him
what a bum
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no way. i cant imagine him purposely admitting that. maybe not go through with the lambeau leap, but saying he wasnt gonna score?
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yes your analysis is correct. although i wouldnt say ochocinco is that much of an upgrade from roy williams. i purposely stayed away from both of those guys completely in my league
Yeah, talentwise they are close IMO. All Im looking at is productivity...and even more so, how much they are getting thrown to. Ocho has been targetted 7, 11, and 11 times in the first 3 games. Roy, for the first three games has only been thrown to 7, 4, and 7 during the first three games. Romo is really only going to Witten, and distributing the ball all over the place after that. Ocho is the first option always in Cincy. I dunno, we'll see what happens.
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ocho is a great upgrade..carson will only get better and Ocho is his number 1 target unlike Roy Williams..Hes also got big play potential that roy doesnt have...and grant is long term where as sproles wont even get the carries when LT is back, even when he starts he doesnt get a ton of carries Rivers throws 40-50 times a game
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ocho is a great upgrade..carson will only get better and Ocho is his number 1 target unlike Roy Williams..Hes also got big play potential that roy doesnt have...and grant is long term where as sproles wont even get the carries when LT is back, even when he starts he doesnt get a ton of carries Rivers throws 40-50 times a game
Yeah. Not to mention, my league gives the normal 1 point per 10 yards receiving...but also 1 point per reception. So Ocho should do a lot better the Roy in the long run.
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ocho is a great upgrade..carson will only get better and Ocho is his number 1 target unlike Roy Williams..Hes also got big play potential that roy doesnt have...and grant is long term where as sproles wont even get the carries when LT is back, even when he starts he doesnt get a ton of carries Rivers throws 40-50 times a game
Yeah. Not to mention, my league gives the normal 1 point per 10 yards receiving...but also 1 point per reception. So Ocho should do a lot better the Roy in the long run.
no doubt...only someone that doesnt watch football would think different
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sproles williams
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
i don't know.
with LT lookin' unhealthy, Sproles is the go to guy in SD.
Roy is #1 WR, #2 option to Witten in Dallas.
if Ocho could put up numbers he put up a few years back, i would think differently lol.
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
i don't know.
with LT lookin' unhealthy, Sproles is the go to guy in SD.
Roy is #1 WR, #2 option to Witten in Dallas.
if Ocho could put up numbers he put up a few years back, i would think differently lol.
It's become clear that Sproles can't handle being an every down RB. He is pretty good at running outside the tackles and catching screens. And when L.T. comes back, regardless of how well he is, will take some (if not most) of Sproles' touches.
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
i don't know.
with LT lookin' unhealthy, Sproles is the go to guy in SD.
Roy is #1 WR, #2 option to Witten in Dallas.
if Ocho could put up numbers he put up a few years back, i would think differently lol.
It's become clear that Sproles can't handle being an every down RB. He is pretty good at running outside the tackles and catching screens. And when L.T. comes back, regardless of how well he is, will take some (if not most) of Sproles' touches.
i agree, but like you said, screens and stuff.
for fantasy, it's all good.
Grant is a better "back", but as for catching balls and getting some handoffs, i think he would put up better numbers overall than Grant.
& like i was saying, Ocho hasn't been impressive in a few years.
but it's a close deal, regardless of which end of it you get.
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
i don't know.
with LT lookin' unhealthy, Sproles is the go to guy in SD.
Roy is #1 WR, #2 option to Witten in Dallas.
if Ocho could put up numbers he put up a few years back, i would think differently lol.
It's become clear that Sproles can't handle being an every down RB. He is pretty good at running outside the tackles and catching screens. And when L.T. comes back, regardless of how well he is, will take some (if not most) of Sproles' touches.
i agree, but like you said, screens and stuff.
for fantasy, it's all good.
Grant is a better "back", but as for catching balls and getting some handoffs, i think he would put up better numbers overall than Grant.
& like i was saying, Ocho hasn't been impressive in a few years.
but it's a close deal, regardless of which end of it you get.
It is a close deal like u said, which is the only reason the other guy agreed....other then the fact that he has LT as his number 1 pick lol So he needs the insurance of Sproles. The way I measured it out is, You have Ryan Grant who is ok...I wont start him every week for sure cus I have DeAngelo Williams and Frank Gore. Not to mention Julius Jones who plays in a more "run first" kind of offense. But Grant is the main back in Green Bay. He is the guy. Sproles will ALWAYS split carries. Even when LT is out, Sproles will split carries with Michael Bennett. Not to mention, they use him a lot in the return game (which wont count towards his fantasy points), so they wont want to over use him during the season. Roy Willaims vs Ocho to me is almost a no brainer right now. Anything can happen throughout the season. But simply, Ocho will get thrown to far more often then Roy will. The Cowboys when they are healthy have a solid run game, meaning they WILL try to run the ball...and when Romo throws he only throws to Witten. If Cincy is going to be successful at all, Ocho will have to get the ball. Theyve thrown to Ocho over 9 times per game, where as Roy only gets thrown to 6. And Cincy will be playing from behind more often the Dallas will (i think), which means they will be passing the ball alot.
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OchoCino & Grant
If all purpose yards are counted, then Williams & Sproles.
i don't know.
with LT lookin' unhealthy, Sproles is the go to guy in SD.
Roy is #1 WR, #2 option to Witten in Dallas.
if Ocho could put up numbers he put up a few years back, i would think differently lol.
It's become clear that Sproles can't handle being an every down RB. He is pretty good at running outside the tackles and catching screens. And when L.T. comes back, regardless of how well he is, will take some (if not most) of Sproles' touches.
i agree, but like you said, screens and stuff.
for fantasy, it's all good.
Grant is a better "back", but as for catching balls and getting some handoffs, i think he would put up better numbers overall than Grant.
& like i was saying, Ocho hasn't been impressive in a few years.
but it's a close deal, regardless of which end of it you get.
It is a close deal like u said, which is the only reason the other guy agreed....other then the fact that he has LT as his number 1 pick lol So he needs the insurance of Sproles. The way I measured it out is, You have Ryan Grant who is ok...I wont start him every week for sure cus I have DeAngelo Williams and Frank Gore. Not to mention Julius Jones who plays in a more "run first" kind of offense. But Grant is the main back in Green Bay. He is the guy. Sproles will ALWAYS split carries. Even when LT is out, Sproles will split carries with Michael Bennett. Not to mention, they use him a lot in the return game (which wont count towards his fantasy points), so they wont want to over use him during the season. Roy Willaims vs Ocho to me is almost a no brainer right now. Anything can happen throughout the season. But simply, Ocho will get thrown to far more often then Roy will. The Cowboys when they are healthy have a solid run game, meaning they WILL try to run the ball...and when Romo throws he only throws to Witten. If Cincy is going to be successful at all, Ocho will have to get the ball. Theyve thrown to Ocho over 9 times per game, where as Roy only gets thrown to 6. And Cincy will be playing from behind more often the Dallas will (i think), which means they will be passing the ball alot.
interesting philosophy of looking at it.
but i see it where since they have such a deep run game & Jason Witten, Roy Williams (although #1 wideout) is really the 3rd or 4th option in the play calling, meaning he might get thrown to less, but i think they will be deeper throws.
when you know the Bengals are throwing the ball, you know Ocho is the number one weapon they have on offense, they will key onto him.
so Ocho might get 9 passes thrown to him a game, but only 4 of them will be caught for decent yardage, he plays more of a decoy role when they are committed pass.
but i can't lie, if they catch fire & the offense comes into its own, Ocho can put amazing stats.
so if you have a view of the trade you think works for you, do it my man. 8)