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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Woodrow on September 29, 2002, 08:32:51 AM
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Just getting up this wonderful Sunday morning, and checking some news and ran across something I found intresting. Time Magazine has an article on how John Walker went from Average American Joe to "Johnny Walker, the American Taliban." As I was reading, it occured to me that John Walker has a lot in common with somebody that we all know around here... Infinite!
Here is a link to the story... It's a great read.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,356031,00.html
Here are some samples:
From time Magazine article:
"He was doodoo and John Doe in his teenage Internet messages, when he posed as a black rapper and denounced white kids who acted black...."
Political Gangsta Anybody?
From time Magazine article:
"He was Dr. J, Hine E. Craque and Mr. Mujahid (holy warrior), as he posted in chat rooms inveighing against Zionists and homosexuals..."
From Infinite: "And the homosexuals are the ones really having a heyday here in America," SOURCE:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1026763880;start=11
From time Magazine article:
"His Taliban brethren knew him as Abdul Hamid."
Look at what infinites new name is...
From time Magazine article:
"For diversion, John would often turn to the Internet. There, using phony names, John could be cocky and even at times condescending."
Who does this sound like?
From time Magazine article:
"In this world [online hiphop], the quiet, self-effacing boy was in control."
From Infinite:"when my life started spinning out of control..." Source:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=anything;action=display;num=1017245271;start=19
From time Magazine article:
"He tried to locate online hard-to-find books..."
From Infinite:"Yo..... I need to order a book on Osama Bin Ladin written by two frenchmen. It's called....."Osama bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth." If ya'll could hook me up I'll pay you double whatever it costs."
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=anything;action=display;num=1032875935
I just find the similarities VERY intresting... Perhpas we could all know somebody (in)famous in a couple of years if Infinite continues to head down this path...
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so i guess that USa have around perhaps 200 000 "John Walker 2.0
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and two bush clones who are terrorizing this board.
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Just getting up this wonderful Sunday morning, and checking some news and ran across something I found intresting. Time Magazine has an article on how John Walker went from Average American Joe to "Johnny Walker, the American Taliban." As I was reading, it occured to me that John Walker has a lot in common with somebody that we all know around here... Infinite!
Here is a link to the story... It's a great read.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,356031,00.html
Here are some samples:
From time Magazine article:
"He was doodoo and John Doe in his teenage Internet messages, when he posed as a black rapper and denounced white kids who acted black...."
Political Gangsta Anybody?
From time Magazine article:
"He was Dr. J, Hine E. Craque and Mr. Mujahid (holy warrior), as he posted in chat rooms inveighing against Zionists and homosexuals..."
From Infinite: "And the homosexuals are the ones really having a heyday here in America," SOURCE:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1026763880;start=11
From time Magazine article:
"His Taliban brethren knew him as Abdul Hamid."
Look at what infinites new name is...
From time Magazine article:
"For diversion, John would often turn to the Internet. There, using phony names, John could be cocky and even at times condescending."
Who does this sound like?
From time Magazine article:
"In this world [online hiphop], the quiet, self-effacing boy was in control."
From Infinite:"when my life started spinning out of control..." Source:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=anything;action=display;num=1017245271;start=19
From time Magazine article:
"He tried to locate online hard-to-find books..."
From Infinite:"Yo..... I need to order a book on Osama Bin Ladin written by two frenchmen. It's called....."Osama bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth." If ya'll could hook me up I'll pay you double whatever it costs."
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=anything;action=display;num=1032875935
I just find the similarities VERY intresting... Perhpas we could all know somebody (in)famous in a couple of years if Infinite continues to head down this path...
Damn Engle that shit just shows what I've been sayin' for a minute. Also did you know that John Walker impersonated a 5% aka a member of the Nation of Islam's Gods and Earths? and would try to diss anybody black being a God? I don't know where that thread is, but I was reading him and some other guy going at it about why black people are gods and as usual he lost, but his fellow sand niggaz and other white internet friends came to his rescue, lol.
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Nah, Infinite's not intelligent enough to be like John Walker, straight up. I've talked to him.
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and two bush clones who are terrorizing this board.
lol
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Nah, Infinite's not intelligent enough to be like John Walker, straight up. I've talked to him.
For once we agree. Trauma could not be more correct. I currently lack the intelligence, courage, and conviction of brother Abdul. I will be the first to recognize brother Abdul as my superior in intellect and knowledge of Allah.
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Yup, actually that's exactly what I meant.
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Free Abdul Hamid!!!!!!!!! Political Prisoner needs to be freed!!!!
While we are quick to celebrate the courage of our black civil rights activists, to often we forget the John Brown and Abdul Hamid's of this world who have fought for oppressed groups they were not indigenously called to fight for. Abdul Hamid has seen both sides of the eternal struggle for peace. He is a man of great character who traveled to the ends of the Earth to fight oppression.
Free Abdul Hamid!!!!!!!!
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So, a guy goes to war with america, and he's a hero? LOL you should really evaluate your sanity. If Walker had it his way, your mom and dad would be dead. If that's what you want, you're sick.
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So, a guy goes to war with america, and he's a hero? LOL you should really evaluate your sanity. If Walker had it his way, your mom and dad would be dead. If that's what you want, you're sick.
That is not at all true. John Walker never had any desire to randomly kill my parents.
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The author tried to suggest certain things that simply weren't true. But this excerpt from the article is on point........
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Says Frank: "John went (into Afghanistan) to help the mujahedin, as he understood the people Ronald Reagan called the 'freedom fighters.'" But in America's eyes, those freedom fighters have become terrorists.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1762770.stm
Once again, you prove that you're evil. You're an AMERICAN! Damn, don't you get that. Read the story above, it talks a little bit about the interviews given to Walker after he was detained. Notice he knew for months that suicide bombers had been sent to the U.S.... and still supported them. He supported war against the u.s., and he supported suicide bombings against the u.s. He deserves to die, according to the law of this country, as a traitor.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1762770.stm
Once again, you prove that you're evil. You're an AMERICAN! Damn, don't you get that. Read the story above, it talks a little bit about the interviews given to Walker after he was detained. Notice he knew for months that suicide bombers had been sent to the U.S.... and still supported them. He supported war against the u.s., and he supported suicide bombings against the u.s. He deserves to die, according to the law of this country, as a traitor.
The group he was a part of was heavily supported by Regean. Regean called them freedom fighters. He called them this because they helped America drive Russia away from controlling the oil in Afganistan and surrounding area's. After Afganistan was devastated economically after helping America, America left them with nothing in return.
Even still.... the group he was a part of was invited to speak in colleges in the US shortly before the Sept. 11th attacks.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1762770.stm
Once again, you prove that you're evil. You're an AMERICAN! Damn, don't you get that. Read the story above, it talks a little bit about the interviews given to Walker after he was detained. Notice he knew for months that suicide bombers had been sent to the U.S.... and still supported them. He supported war against the u.s., and he supported suicide bombings against the u.s. He deserves to die, according to the law of this country, as a traitor.
And look at the source of those comments. It was in an affidavid filed against him. Prosecutin attorney's get paid to discredit Walker.
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in the name of the father son and holy ghost, be with you all now forever and always...amen
infinate ,i'll pay to get you physciatrically evaluated
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in the name of the father son and holy ghost, be with you all now forever and always...amen
infinate ,i'll pay to get you physciatrically evaluated
Okay...but I don't know if you'll have enough money for the other 1 billion Muslims who agree with me.
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Infact ya'll..... one of my best Muslim friends here in Kansas City, Jabir Hazziez.... he is a police officer.. almost damn near won the election for sheriff. He has also served in the military and is still currently active with the Navy. I tell him all the things I tell to you all. He doesn't see anything wrong with anything I say. He supports America, he is in the US military, we talk about all these issue's and generally agree on them.
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wow good for him...
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wow good for him...
Yeah... believe me... he supports America just like you do. And he doesn't even think I'm the devil. How about that? Hey!
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hate the sin love the sinner.....i love you infinate,but i hate the one that is in you
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hate the sin love the sinner.....i love you infinate,but i hate the one that is in you
I'm sorry you lack the proper religious instruction. That your religion is based on being sheep in a flock. Sheep are dumb animals! Believe that. They blindly follow their shepard.
See, Christianity teaches that faith is believing when common sense tells you not to. But Islam teaches that true faith comes from knowledge that has been soundly proven. True faith comes from reason. It is only through aquiring knowledge of your creator that you can have true conviction in faith! Islam encourages you to question. There is a reason behind everything in Islam!
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Okay...but I don't know if you'll have enough money for the other 1 billion Muslims who agree with me.
Im pretty sure that 1 billion people don't agree with the killing of innocnets...
(To those who don't know, check here:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1033249738)
You give islam a VERY bad name...
You claim to want to make people love Islam, but trust me, you are doing just the opposite...
You are a twisted individual who REALLY needs a reality check.
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I'm sorry you lack the proper religious instruction. That your religion is based on being sheep in a flock. Sheep are dumb animals! Believe that. They blindly follow their shepard.
See, Christianity teaches that faith is believing when common sense tells you not to. But Islam teaches that true faith comes from knowledge that has been soundly proven. True faith comes from reason. It is only through aquiring knowledge of your creator that you can have true conviction in faith! Islam encourages you to question. There is a reason behind everything in Islam!
You claim to love christianity, but in reality, you are a bigot and filled with hatred.
You claim Your hatred for yourself dissapered when you accepted Islam... From what I've seen, all that happened was that you projected your hatred away from yourself and twards the USA, and Establishment...
You know your argument is getting weak when you have to attack others religion...
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Im pretty sure that 1 billion people don't agree with the killing of innocnets...
(To those who don't know, check here:http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=thehall;action=display;num=1033249738)
You give islam a VERY bad name...
You claim to want to make people love Islam, but trust me, you are doing just the opposite...
You are a twisted individual who REALLY needs a reality check.
Johnny Walker never killed any innocence. He fought against the Northern Alliance.
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you know what infinate ....you can belittle me and my religion all you want but all you are doing is furthering all my points and degrating yourself and hypocrasizing your philosophy on life.
and if it makes you feel any better the bible hasn't and can not be proven wrong and is vey historically accurate, many athiest historians scientists have converted to the relgion it'self trying to proove it wrong
but the book you base your new found faith in is historically inacurate and is full of fables that have been proven false.....just look it up
not to say the koran is wrong .......but just letting you know your not as high and mighty as you think
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you know what infinate ....you can belittle me and my religion all you want but all you are doing is furthering all my points and degrating yourself and hypocrasizing your philosophy on life.
and if it makes you feel any better the bible hasn't and can not be proven wrong and is vey historically accurate, many athiest historians scientists have converted to the relgion it'self trying to proove it wrong
but the book you base your new found faith in is historically inacurate and is full of fables that have been proven false.....just look it up
not to say the koran is wrong .......but just letting you know your not as high and mighty as you think
What in the Qu'ran is historically inaccurate. Please back up that statement.
Jesus birthday is wrong in the bible. His location of birth is wrong in the bible. Him being called God son was no different then the practice of calling Kings God's Son. Many Kings and leaders of that day and age were called "God's Son."
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What in the Qu'ran is historically inaccurate. Please back up that statement.
Jesus birthday is wrong in the bible. His location of birth is wrong in the bible. Him being called God son was no different then the practice of calling Kings God's Son. Many Kings and leaders of that day and age were called "God's Son."
you own the internet don't you infinate? you are more than welcome to look up the historical innacuracies of the koran....i don't know how hard that can be
it never says that jesus's birthday is dec 25 in the bible , it does give mention that it was a spring night and that there was this great star that in the sky that night. hmmmmmm so spring is around april...and scientists HAVE proven that there was a great star in the sky april 6th exactly 2,000 years ago.......it was on the discovery channle last easter and christmas, on a&e's mysteries of the bible, and on the history channle not too long ago
we are all sons and daughters of god.......your whole arguement against jesus being the son of god proove your ignorance of my religion. talk to any priest about this and they'll tell you the whole deal about this......
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and if it makes you feel any better the bible hasn't  and can not be proven wrong and is vey historically accurate, many athiest historians scientists have converted to the relgion it'self trying to proove it wrong
but the book you base your new found faith in is historically inacurate and is full of fables that have been proven false.....just look it up
not to say the koran is wrong .......but just letting you know your not as high and mighty as you think
Correrction:
The Bible have been proven wrong and historicly IN-correct in many issues. Since the 20:th century, the Bible have been corrected not less that 5000 times because of contradictions, wrong facts, countries that didnt exist etc etc....
heres little sum with spelling errors to prove my point.... its nothing big though
1. In Cronicles (2), 36:9, its written that Jojakin was 8 years old when becoming a king and he ruled for 3 months. But in Kings (2), 24:8, its written thats he became a king a the year of 18 and ruled for 3 months and 10 days...
2. According to Kings (2), 8:26, Ahasja became a king at the age of 22, Cronicles (2), 22:2 is stating that Ahasja became a king at the age of 42
3. "Numbers", 23:19, claims that God never regrets his actions, Â but in "Genesis", 6:6, its written that God regrets creating the human being.
4. The Note Written Above The Head Of Jesus, On The Crucifix:
"This Is Jesus, The King Of The Jews" - (Matt 27:37)
"The King Of The Jews" Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â - (Mark 15:26)
"This Is The King Of The Jews" Â Â Â Â Â - (Luk 23:38)
Even with the help of God (??), the 3 authors couldnt write 5-8 words correct... Â witch one is correct and with one(s) are fake? is any of them correct at all?
thats 4 examples.... ive written exactly were you can find the paragraphs, so check for yourself if you want... i have a couple more iff you're interested...
anyway.. this obviously shows that the writers had no connection with God when typing, else, how could they contradict theirselfes?? .. i also have proofs for the statements im going to claim now:
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and pleese tell me the parts in Qu'ran that are inaccurate
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^^^Thank you I-Bo... you got to this one before me and delt with him handily.
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John Walker is a great man
Free Abdul Hamid!!
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the justice system and all is real fucked up here in america, people think its real fucked up in other countries but damn its real bad here too, i mean lets take flesh for example, the dude flips out and threatens a few people a few times, he has history of mental problems, and they know that but they still put him in jail, instead they should take him to a asylum or to a doctor to be treated, right now i think they finally treated him and hes on medication in jail but still its not the guys fault, he has mental problems, so they put him in jail, that shit is worse
i bet there are thousands of people in jail who shouldnt be. or just really unfair trials or sentences, guess how many years flesh got? 11....
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the justice system and all is real fucked up here in america, people think its real fucked up in other countries but damn its real bad here too, i mean lets take flesh for example, the dude flips out and threatens a few people a few times, he has history of mental problems, and they know that but they still put him in jail, instead they should take him to a asylum or to a doctor to be treated, right now i think they finally treated him and hes on medication in jail but still its not the guys fault, he has mental problems, so they put him in jail, that shit is worse
i bet there are thousands of people in jail who shouldnt be. or just really unfair trials or sentences, guess how many years flesh got? 11....
Free Flesh!!!!
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The author tried to suggest certain things that simply weren't true. But this excerpt from the article is on point........
Yep... one thing has been called into question...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/30/walker.lindh.time/index.html
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Yep... one thing has been called into question...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/30/walker.lindh.time/index.html
pathetic attempt to demonize brother Abdul Hamid
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i'm pretty sure infinite is a terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep... one thing has been called into question...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/09/30/walker.lindh.time/index.html
That is completely false. There is no such thing as a gay Muslim. There never has been and there never will be. Islam rejects homosexuality. They are trying to say anything to discredit him because they are afraid of what truth he may ultimately reveal.
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i'm pretty sure infinite is a terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!
likewise i am pretty sure you are a dork
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That is completely false. There is no such thing as a gay Muslim. There never has been and there never will be. Islam rejects homosexuality. They are trying to say anything to discredit him because they are afraid of what truth he may ultimately reveal.
I did a search on yahoo for "Gay Muslim"
I guess you are wrong...
http://www.al-fatiha.net/
http://www.well.com/user/queerjhd/
http://www.geocities.com/danial96/articles/beinghomo/index.html
http://www.gayreading.com/lifestyles/muslim.html
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I did a search on yahoo for "Gay Muslim"
I guess you are wrong...
http://www.al-fatiha.net/
http://www.well.com/user/queerjhd/
http://www.geocities.com/danial96/articles/beinghomo/index.html
http://www.gayreading.com/lifestyles/muslim.html
LMAO
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I did a search on yahoo for "Gay Muslim"
I guess you are wrong...
http://www.al-fatiha.net/
http://www.well.com/user/queerjhd/
http://www.geocities.com/danial96/articles/beinghomo/index.html
http://www.gayreading.com/lifestyles/muslim.html
youre switching lanes once again
Infinite told u theres no such thing as Gay Muslims cuz Islam rejects it, just cuz some stupid group calls themselves that doesnt mean they are right
i myself can call myself anything i want....
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youre switching lanes once again
Infinite told u theres no such thing as Gay Muslims cuz Islam rejects it, just cuz some stupid group calls themselves that doesnt mean they are right
i myself can call myself anything i want....
there is such thing as a gay muslum......being gay is jsut as much of a sin if you were to have premarital sex/smoke weed/listen to a brotha lynch album/ cuss ruteinly
there is such thing as a gay christian, now the bible says homosexuality is "an abomination to god" but we don't reject them, we are taught to love them and hate their sin and show them the truth, not turn them away
i hope infinate's view on homosexuals being turned away isn't the true representation of islam , becuase that'd be a great shame and hypocracy as well
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there is such thing as a gay muslum......being gay is jsut as much of a sin if you were to have premarital sex/smoke weed/listen to a brotha lynch album/ cuss ruteinly
not in my religion
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Hola, me llamo Siavash, yo digo que todos aqi estas hotos, si senor, AQI AQI IN YO MOUTH!
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and yea those brotha lynch albums are pretty crazy n hardcore
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not in my religion
how sad , i always thought islam promoted brotherhoood, not hate and rejection
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am i being ignored?.....i think i am.....
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how sad , i always thought islam promoted brotherhoood, not hate and rejection
Islam is the natural religion of man. The sun and the moon are both Muslims because they follow the devine command of our Creator. They are in submission to the will of the Creator. There is nothing natural about homosexuality. Islam does not accept homosexuality and never will.
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Islam is the natural religion of man. The sun and the moon are both Muslims because they follow the devine command of our Creator. They are in submission to the will of the Creator. There is nothing natural about homosexuality. Islam does not accept homosexuality and never will.
christianity can be considered the natural relgion of man as well then . we don't accept it, but we don't turn them away when they want to learn the truth of the gospal
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christianity can be considered the natural relgion of man as well then . we don't accept it, but we don't turn them away when they want to learn the truth of the gospal
Not true. Because the sun and the moon haven't accepted Jesus Christ into their lives so how can they be Christian? They haven't been saved!
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Not true. Because the sun and the moon haven't accepted Jesus Christ into their lives so how can they be Christian? They haven't been saved!
ok for 1 the sun and moon arn't beings with souls
2 the worshiping of such objects like the sun and moon is satanic
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ok for 1 the sun and moon arn't beings with souls
2 the worshiping of such objects like the sun and moon is satanic
Muslims only worship Allah. We submit to the will of our Creator. The sun and the moon submit to the will and devine command of the creator; therefore they are Muslims like me. Islam is the natural religion of man.
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Muslims only worship Allah. We submit to the will of our Creator. The sun and the moon submit to the will and devine command of the creator; therefore they are Muslims like me. Islam is the natural religion of man.
again the sun and moon are souless objects with no will or emotion.....humans are free willed beings who choose to follow god if they choose to, the sun and moon have no choice
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again the sun and moon are souless objects with no will or emotion.....humans are free willed beings who choose to follow god if they choose to, the sun and moon have no choice
We can repeat ourselves over and over for the rest of the night if you like! Once again, the sun and the moon are in submission to the Creator. Islam means submission to your creator. Therefore, the sun and moon are Muslims. Free will or no free will!!!!
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LMFAO
-{bLaDe}
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We can repeat ourselves over and over for the rest of the night if you like! Once again, the sun and the moon are in submission to the Creator. Islam means submission to your creator. Therefore, the sun and moon are Muslims. Free will or no free will!!!!
you relise how many religions can make this statement?
this is a weak argument
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Hola, me llamo Siavash, yo digo que todos aqi estas hotos, si senor, AQI AQI IN YO MOUTH!
cierre su boca
-{bLaDe}
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it wasnt that interesting a story , it was a boring read, but id have to say that john walker tried to be a true follower of islam just like how infinite is. Walker is still trying and strenthening his islamic ties with the religion which is holy. Walker was however mislead by the taliban....just like many other muslim followers have been mislead....by bin laden for seeking vengeance in a wrong manner.
but john walker had a fucked up family....his dad turns gay n walker has homosexual relationship with that mr hayat dude
quote from the article:
""Hayat, who has a wife and four children, says he had sex with Lindh. "He was liking me very much. All the time he wants to be with me," says Hayat, who has a good though not colloquial command of English. "I was loving him. Because love begets love, you know." Lindh's lawyers deny that their client engaged in homosexual relationships.
"He was ready to stay with me," says Hayat, "but I pushed him into the madrasah." Nevertheless, the businessman appears to be jealous of Lindh's relationship with the teacher he recommended, Mufti Iltimas Khan. (Lindh, says Hayat, "loved me more.") The mufti does not discuss the nature of his relationship with Lindh, though he seems happy to talk about the young man. "Everyone who saw him wanted to talk to him and to look at him and to look at his face. A very lovely face he had, John Walker."
thats kinda messed imo....how can a true follower of islam turn homosexual?
anywayz peace
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Muslims only worship Allah. We submit to the will of our Creator. The sun and the moon submit to the will and devine command of the creator; therefore they are Muslims like me. Islam is the natural religion of man.
i think modern astronomy proved that the sun and moon submit to forces other than the will of allah..
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thats kinda messed imo....how can a true follower of islam turn homosexual?
I dont see how a strict/true follower of Islam could be gay, cause Islam rejects homosexualty...So if he was gay, he wanst a 'true' muslim. Oh yeah brother, im sick of you being a Bigot and a racist.[He keeps dissin other religions and races]
Anyway back to the main topic, I dont think Infinite is another John Walker, peace
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I dont see how a strict/true follower of Islam could be gay, cause Islam rejects homosexualty...So if he was gay, he wanst a 'true' muslim. Oh yeah brother, im sick of you being a Bigot and a racist.[He keeps dissin other religions and races]
Anyway back to the main topic, I dont think Infinite is another John Walker, peace
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no no u please stfu bnrother....i dont diss religions , i only told u that a couple of arabs are gay
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no no u please stfu bnrother....i dont diss religions , i only told u that a couple of arabs are gay
lol whtever man, i know wht u said
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