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Title: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 13, 2023, 11:34:52 PM
So in that horrible Kevin Hart and Dre video he said he been doin a lot of shit with Marsha, so I was like hmmm, I never heard of her let me check it out… and what do I get ??  The top music video if you search her name is a music video with a bunch homos kissing ??  I’m not gonna post it here but it’s her most popular music video.

…I’m sorry y’all but Dre ain’t done nothing since the Compton banger.  I still say he sold his soul the way he throwin up the devil horns these days at the Super Bowl and other appearances.

Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Sccit on August 13, 2023, 11:59:30 PM
marsha was all over compton

she’s pretty good

not sure bout the video but he was supposed to be producing her album, which seems like it’s never comin out tbh
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: heisenberg on August 14, 2023, 05:39:35 AM
So in that horrible Kevin Hart and Dre video he said he been doin a lot of shit with Marsha, so I was like hmmm, I never heard of her let me check it out… and what do I get ??  The top music video if you search her name is a music video with a bunch homos kissing ??  I’m not gonna post it here but it’s her most popular music video.

…I’m sorry y’all but Dre ain’t done nothing since the Compton banger.  I still say he sold his soul the way he throwin up the devil horns these days at the Super Bowl and other appearances.

she is on styles p, game, lloyd banks, busta, hi-tek, saigon, talib kweli, dr dre albums... and many others but you never heard from her ? damn
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: BJV on August 14, 2023, 06:46:08 AM
Gay and trans is hot right now. Mainstream acceptance of that lifestyle can do a lot for an artist.

If Marsha's album doesn't drop I expect a World Class Wreckin' Cru reunion album with nothing but dance instrumentals.

(https://i.ibb.co/bJnRb5S/dre-doctor.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on August 14, 2023, 01:40:43 PM
So in that horrible Kevin Hart and Dre video he said he been doin a lot of shit with Marsha, so I was like hmmm, I never heard of her let me check it out… and what do I get ??  The top music video if you search her name is a music video with a bunch homos kissing ??  I’m not gonna post it here but it’s her most popular music video.

…I’m sorry y’all but Dre ain’t done nothing since the Compton banger.  I still say he sold his soul the way he throwin up the devil horns these days at the Super Bowl and other appearances.

I took note of her from some of the Game tracks she was on back in the day: Start From Scratch, and Why You Hate the Game.  Nas's Hustlers, also featuring the Game.  Then Busta Rhymes Cocaina.  All cool songs she was on.  And of course the stuff she was on from Dre's Compton album.

Like the others, i doubt her Aftermath album will ever come out so who knows what kind of stuff her and Dre have been doing the last five years cause it's all going in the vault. 
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Iowa1 on August 14, 2023, 02:00:15 PM
She has a beautiful voice.  Have liked her since her Floetry days.  I really hope Casablanco drops. 
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: rivoli on August 14, 2023, 04:02:58 PM
Her album is done and it was produced by Dre.

She did an album listening and there is footage of Dre talking at the listening party..

When it will come out is another thing..
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 14, 2023, 05:25:18 PM
Her album is done and it was produced by Dre.

She did an album listening and there is footage of Dre talking at the listening party..

When it will come out is another thing..

Uhhhh so… they do a listening party and still the album doesn’t come out?  So you go and put your heart and soul into doing 1,000 takes with Dre the perfectionist so that your work can be in a vault forever…

What if a 100 years from now a vaulted song from Dre is worth like a million dollars or something
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Sccit on August 14, 2023, 06:02:03 PM
Uhhhh so… they do a listening party and still the album doesn’t come out?  So you go and put your heart and soul into doing 1,000 takes with Dre the perfectionist so that your work can be in a vault forever…

What if a 100 years from now a vaulted song from Dre is worth like a million dollars or something


forget all that

the important question is how did u not know of her bein a big fan of compton and all?


:hmmm:
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 14, 2023, 06:24:36 PM

forget all that

the important question is how did u not know of her bein a big fan of compton and all?


:hmmm:

because that's like asking how come I didn't know who Nancy Fletcher was even though she was singing on all those Death Row tracks.  The names like vaguely familiar but you don't look into it like Justus or King Mez
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Sccit on August 14, 2023, 06:39:57 PM
because that's like asking how come I didn't know who Nancy Fletcher was even though she was singing on all those Death Row tracks.  The names like vaguely familiar but you don't look into it like Justus or King Mez


 :ohwell:


Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Duckasuckin on August 14, 2023, 07:52:16 PM
Fuck you
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 14, 2023, 10:42:21 PM
Fuck you

Damn… headz is passionate about Marsha on here… maybe I should post the gay kissing video for you boys
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: topdogg188 on August 15, 2023, 07:50:29 AM
If I remember from that video your talking about with gay people kissing one of her close homosexual or trans friends had died or got killled due to being that way and I guess she wanted to speak about it. Anyhow I liked Marsha since the floetry days. She been working with aftermath for along time since at least 2008. I doubt we will see an album if we haven’t already. The best you can listen for the aftermath sound is her mixtape - yours truly with focus and Dre production over it. Even some of the tracks production is still relevant. Busta reused the focus beat from her Song “start /finish” on the ELE2 album last year
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on August 15, 2023, 10:45:20 AM
Uhhhh so… they do a listening party and still the album doesn’t come out?  So you go and put your heart and soul into doing 1,000 takes with Dre the perfectionist so that your work can be in a vault forever…

What if a 100 years from now a vaulted song from Dre is worth like a million dollars or something

Quite the opposite, with AI progressing as fast as it is, none of these vaulted songs will be worth anything because they'll be able to so easily replicated.  Pac AI's are already flooding the internet making it virtually impossible for the casual fan to differentiate, and in the next few years, even seasoned fans won't be able to tell the real from the fake. 

People are already hard at work on creating a perfect "Tha Next Episode" AI version. Once that's out, anyone sitting on the original song won't be worth anything. 
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Lucifuge on August 15, 2023, 02:04:30 PM
Dre is not perfectionist, he is an asshole, for real.
Rakims album, raekwons album, statlanta, bishop. You name it.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on August 15, 2023, 02:41:19 PM
Quite the opposite, with AI progressing as fast as it is, none of these vaulted songs will be worth anything because they'll be able to so easily replicated.  Pac AI's are already flooding the internet making it virtually impossible for the casual fan to differentiate, and in the next few years, even seasoned fans won't be able to tell the real from the fake. 

People are already hard at work on creating a perfect "Tha Next Episode" AI version. Once that's out, anyone sitting on the original song won't be worth anything.

Yeah maybe but like an original package of Zelda unopened goes for like $18,000 dollars now so it’s hard to tell what will be worth a lot in the future.

…but it would be amazing if just one of these days somehow the entire Dre vault got released.  I mean with the forum we have here at the dubb we could probably figure out the cream of the crop and put 20 together for a classic fanmade album

As far as AI do you think there will come a day when a 2pac AI track will actually be better than a track he made on 7 Day Theory??   That would really be insane if something like that happened… or like if AI made a banger better than “California Love” or more poetic than “Dear Mama” —shit, that might lead to another Shakespearean Rennasance
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on August 15, 2023, 03:08:51 PM
Yeah maybe but like an original package of Zelda unopened goes for like $18,000 dollars now so it’s hard to tell what will be worth a lot in the future.

…but it would be amazing if just one of these days somehow the entire Dre vault got released.  I mean with the forum we have here at the dubb we could probably figure out the cream of the crop and put 20 together for a classic fanmade album

As far as AI do you think there will come a day when a 2pac AI track will actually be better than a track he made on 7 Day Theory??   That would really be insane if something like that happened… or like if AI made a banger better than “California Love” or more poetic than “Dear Mama” —shit, that might lead to another Shakespearean Rennasance

Yeah i mean if someone had something tangible, like a reel to the song, then of course that'd be worth money.  But having an original 'file' to a song that's since been perfectly replicated with AI where you can't tell the difference, the original file will be worthless.

Look at the progression of AI.  Started in 80's with drum kits, AI replaced real drums.  Then computers, synths, etc. replaced real musicians on records.  Now any sort of youtube rapper can create an entire track from scratch, where in the past this had to be done in an expensive studio.  Mixing and everything done via AI too.  The next logical step is AI for voice replacement.  So yes, i do think complete AI songs will be big hits.  It'll all be subjective as to whether they will be 'better' than the current hits, but it will happen.  Heck, they used AI to create Cali Love and Dear Mama for the instrumental, so we've already been there done that. 

If I were a musician or an actor or a writer, i'd be worried right now quite honestly about my job in the next 5-10 years, hence the writer's strike now.  They know their days are numbered.  It's going to come down to the creativity of one person who can feed an AI an idea or concept and funnel the results into a song or movie. 
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Dwax-187 on August 15, 2023, 08:02:11 PM
I wouldn’t go that far.  AI replicates and duplicates.  They dont have human creativity or passion or emotional intelligence. 

Ive heard a lot of 2pac remixed AI songs and they sound good, but the guy isnt alive to justify or back anything.  Sounds to me like an on old school remix or mix tape, just better quality.

True fans follow the artist, not the remixes.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Tony Trey on August 16, 2023, 11:48:40 AM
Are you trying to tell me that Dr. Dre signed a musician to his record label, recorded music with her for 5+ years, and then shelved everything she had worked on, thereby completely wasting her time, which she could have used to instead release music to the masses in the hopes that she might have a career instead of being a footnote on a Dre album from 10 years ago?

This sounds strangely familiar to me. I can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on August 17, 2023, 09:54:21 AM
I wouldn’t go that far.  AI replicates and duplicates.  They dont have human creativity or passion or emotional intelligence. 

Ive heard a lot of 2pac remixed AI songs and they sound good, but the guy isnt alive to justify or back anything.  Sounds to me like an on old school remix or mix tape, just better quality.

True fans follow the artist, not the remixes.

Oh, it can still have human emotion and passion.  There's 2 different methods of voice AI.  To type something and have the AI 'rap' the words, which i agree, sounds terrible.  But then there's the AI where a human does rap the song with all the emotion and passion as the human has, and it's ran through a filter to sound like 2Pac or any other rapper (like what DOP Funk does).  That AI sounds very nice.  We are already doing that now, singers run their voice through an AI computer and spits out auto tune, electronica, and all sorts of other voice enhancements.  That's why no one sounds as good live as they do in the studio.  This really isn't a whole lot different than what's already going on in the studios currently, only now the conscious effort is to make the voice effect sound like a familiar voice instead of a random voice. 
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: HighEyeCue on August 18, 2023, 05:33:31 AM
I wouldn’t go that far.  AI replicates and duplicates.  They dont have human creativity or passion or emotional intelligence. 

Ive heard a lot of 2pac remixed AI songs and they sound good, but the guy isnt alive to justify or back anything.  Sounds to me like an on old school remix or mix tape, just better quality.

True fans follow the artist, not the remixes.

+1

I like listening to these AI songs but in no way does it compare to an OG track...maybe I'm too old schooled
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: astra4322 on August 18, 2023, 05:46:31 AM
Dre is not perfectionist, he is an asshole, for real.
Rakims album, raekwons album, statlanta, bishop. You name it.

Raekwon album was released.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: David Gutterman on August 18, 2023, 07:51:35 AM
There was a Listening Event in Los Angeles 6 months ago  :-\
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: astra4322 on August 18, 2023, 09:49:41 AM
There was a Listening Event in Los Angeles 6 months ago  :-\

It doesn’t mean anything since Dre is involved.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Lucifuge on August 18, 2023, 12:27:40 PM
Raekwon album was released.

Not on aftermath
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: jman91331 on August 22, 2023, 07:32:35 PM
Yeah i mean if someone had something tangible, like a reel to the song, then of course that'd be worth money.  But having an original 'file' to a song that's since been perfectly replicated with AI where you can't tell the difference, the original file will be worthless.

Look at the progression of AI.  Started in 80's with drum kits, AI replaced real drums.  Then computers, synths, etc. replaced real musicians on records.  Now any sort of youtube rapper can create an entire track from scratch, where in the past this had to be done in an expensive studio.  Mixing and everything done via AI too.  The next logical step is AI for voice replacement.  So yes, i do think complete AI songs will be big hits.  It'll all be subjective as to whether they will be 'better' than the current hits, but it will happen.  Heck, they used AI to create Cali Love and Dear Mama for the instrumental, so we've already been there done that. 

If I were a musician or an actor or a writer, i'd be worried right now quite honestly about my job in the next 5-10 years, hence the writer's strike now.  They know their days are numbered.  It's going to come down to the creativity of one person who can feed an AI an idea or concept and funnel the results into a song or movie.
One thing AI would never replace is the emotion. The pain in 2Pac's voice when he's rapping about his mom on Dear Momma, or a person that grew up bullied and now rapping with a vengeance in his voice, or a single channelling their 1st heartbreak while hitting those notes. A computer will never understand or replicate that so AI will be like all the other fake shit (weaves, lashes, ECT) fake shit that's just an example is what the real shit they trying to copy could be.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: Sccit on August 22, 2023, 08:41:29 PM
One thing AI would never replace is the emotion. The pain in 2Pac's voice when he's rapping about his mom on Dear Momma, or a person that grew up bullied and now rapping with a vengeance in his voice, or a single channelling their 1st heartbreak while hitting those notes. A computer will never understand or replicate that so AI will be like all the other fake shit (weaves, lashes, ECT) fake shit that's just an example is what the real shit they trying to copy could be.

pretty much
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: BJV on August 23, 2023, 11:30:10 AM
Wait aren't most of these AI tracks performances by people turned into sounding like Pac or Snoop? If someone raps with the same emotion as Pac or Eminem they can turn their voice into Pac or Eminem.

The D.O.C. is basically bombarded on his social media by people saying he should use AI to sound like himself again.

Now I am sure AI will develop emotion or can be programmed to feel emotion and pretty soon we will not notice a difference.

AI might be the coldest MC out there. I read a story about a guy in Belgium killing himself after chatting with AI cause it told him that humans are bad for the environment.

Personally I think this shit is scary as hell and should be regulated. We're only talking about audio here but if you have a video or a picture of yourself on the internet people can basically turn it into anything they like and it will look damn real.
Title: Re: Is Dre’s work with Marsha Ambrosius anything dope come out of it??
Post by: mtbsm on August 25, 2023, 03:12:11 AM
man DOC should do this for real