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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: acbaylove on November 17, 2005, 02:32:36 PM
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You vote.
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There's gotta be more options. Yes, but he is still young to change things around
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5th year and still some more time? Fuck outta here. As soon as he drops heat I won't be a stubborn ass who keeps a certain opinion even though the facts change - but I refuse to treat him like a child. As long as he plays horrible he can suck a dick and I will refer to him as Kwame Bust.
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There's gotta be more options. Yes, but he is still young to change things around
Too easy. It's obvious right now he's a bust but he can do good things if everything goes ok. What i'm asking you is if had to bet 10$ now, will you bet them on him being a bust all his career long (a good bench player, nothing more) or on him having a great future/superstar future? Nobody knows the future, and obviously Kwame can change it, since it's all in his hands. It's just a poll.
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Obviously my answer is yes. But look at the options u put he either is a Future Superstar or a Failure for the rest of his career. What i mean by options is that there is gotta be some sort of in between way of seeing it. None of us have the statisitcal tools to really see what kind of player he will be in the future.
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Obviously my answer is yes. But look at the options u put he either is a Future Superstar or a Failure for the rest of his career. What i mean by options is that there is gotta be some sort of in between way of seeing it. None of us have the statisitcal tools to really see what kind of player he will be in the future.
I know what you mean, but that's why we make polls, isn't it? Your option is too logical, it should get 100% of the votes. But there's no risk in it, it's not a prediction. Act like a GM! Bust or superstar? No way out.
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he looks wack right now that's for sure
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Fuckin right he is........#1 pick my ass......
Yao Ming
LeBron James
Kenyon Martin
Elton Brand
Tim Duncan
Allen Iverson
ect.
All former #1 picks and all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kwame Brown. If Kwame Brown wasn't a former #1, I seriously think he would have a hard time seeing any court time in the NBA.
You're a fool if you pick "No, he just needs time to develope".........He was drafted in 2001, hes had plenty of time to develope. There are tons of rookies this year who have played 8-10 games who are more developed already than Kwame Brown.
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There's gotta be more options. Yes, but he is still young to change things around
This is an extremely good outlook, and you're not even a Laker fan. Antonio is just too stupid to get it...
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Obviously my answer is yes. But look at the options u put he either is a Future Superstar or a Failure for the rest of his career. What i mean by options is that there is gotta be some sort of in between way of seeing it. None of us have the statisitcal tools to really see what kind of player he will be in the future.
You have to understand, Antonio is an extreme pessimist. Especially when it comes to Laker players this season.
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I am a Laker fan, but ive distanced myself from Basketball a lot over the past 3 years. The Dynasty i guess spoiled me after years of getting swept in the playoffs, so the first 2 years had me on a complete high that I dont think I will ever experience with the lakers again. It's hard to explain, it comes with me not having the same passion for basketball as I do with Baseball or Soccer, ya get me
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Yea, I feel you...I remember when you were one of the hardest supporters...It all ended with the departure of Shaq.
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It pained me because if all the BS was put aside from everybody we could have had a really long run.
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You have to understand, Antonio is an extreme pessimist. Especially when it comes to Laker players this season.
Pessimism has nothing to do with judging a player from his performances.
You're a dickryder who changed your opinion about Kwame with no reasons, i am not.
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^^ I haven't seen any bad statements by Antonio about the Lakers
Kwame Brown is shit and he's just another shitty player who wears a headband
until he starts doin shit I think it's fair that everybody says he sucks
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Kwame is just a soft player dude will ride the bench more than playing basketball.
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^^ I haven't seen any bad statements by Antonio about the Lakers
Kwame Brown is shit and he's just another shitty player who wears a headband
until he starts doin shit I think it's fair that everybody says he sucks
Anybody with the name "2 Cool 2 B A Jew" is definitely NOT cool, and most likely a white trailer trash neo-Nazi... :-X
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Lets give Kwame adequate time to learn the triangle offense, but if we don't see improvement toward the end of the season, i'd say hes a bust.
PS-you're never online anymore NIK, that makes me sad like this- :'(
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You have to understand, Antonio is an extreme pessimist. Especially when it comes to Laker players this season.
Pessimism has nothing to do with judging a player from his performances.
You're a dickryder who changed your opinion about Kwame with no reasons, i am not.
I didn't change my opinion, I just don't see why I should doubt him at such a young age when he has potential...
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PS-you're never online anymore NIK, that makes me sad like this- :'(
Yea, I know...My computer fuckin sucks and it restarts when I turn on AIM, but I'm getting AIM at my work, so I'll probably start getting on again soon.
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hes not a bust PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE KWAMES A PROJECT HES STILL VERY RAW
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There's gotta be more options. Yes, but he is still young to change things around
I don't see him ever living up to his contract, but he I beilive he is still gonna be a solid role player before the season is over.
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as of this moment...hes descent...by the end of the year i expect him to at least find his way...but superstar...never
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Nik just go to www.clublakers.com. They have a "post of the week" in the homepage.
-Lamar & Kwame: Ok, I love Odom, he’s long, athletic and as already shown he get have spectular games. However he must change his mentality to be much more aggresive, attack, look for his shot. With that said, I don’t know WTF he’s thinking shooting sooo many freaking 3’s every game. He usually shoots 3 or 4 and makes one. His shot is UGLY! Its flat, no arch and as Chick would say “a frozen rope.” Now Kwame is a whole diffferent story. I realize its early but he has the WORST hands of any big man I’ve ever seen. He can’t catch, has no touch around the basket and plays waaaaaaay too scared. There’s absolutely no reason a man of his size shouldn’t be pulling down 10-15 boards a night. I realize not everyone is offensively talented and that’s fine. We don’t need points from him, anytime he scores more than a few points I look at it as a bonus. How this guy was a #1 pick I’ll never know. Starting to remind me a lot of Sam Bowie going ahead of Jordan, expect Bowie was 10x better than Kwame. I’ll still be patient with him since his basketball I.Q. seems pretty low and he’s learning a new system. I expect big things from him at some point though.
Don't be mad on me. It's the post of the week.
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Good post. Almost as good as mine when Im aiming at posting good shit.
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The same things i'm repeating from this summer.
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Nik just go to www.clublakers.com. They have a "post of the week" in the homepage.
-Lamar & Kwame: Ok, I love Odom, he’s long, athletic and as already shown he get have spectular games. However he must change his mentality to be much more aggresive, attack, look for his shot. With that said, I don’t know WTF he’s thinking shooting sooo many freaking 3’s every game. He usually shoots 3 or 4 and makes one. His shot is UGLY! Its flat, no arch and as Chick would say “a frozen rope.” Now Kwame is a whole diffferent story. I realize its early but he has the WORST hands of any big man I’ve ever seen. He can’t catch, has no touch around the basket and plays waaaaaaay too scared. There’s absolutely no reason a man of his size shouldn’t be pulling down 10-15 boards a night. I realize not everyone is offensively talented and that’s fine. We don’t need points from him, anytime he scores more than a few points I look at it as a bonus. How this guy was a #1 pick I’ll never know. Starting to remind me a lot of Sam Bowie going ahead of Jordan, expect Bowie was 10x better than Kwame. I’ll still be patient with him since his basketball I.Q. seems pretty low and he’s learning a new system. I expect big things from him at some point though.
Don't be mad on me. It's the post of the week.
At least he expects big things from him, unlike some pessimists I know...LOL. And Kwame should pull down 10-15 rebounds only cuz of his size? If that were the case, almost half the league would be pullin' in 10-15 rebounds...
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I just can't believe this guy was the number 1 pick, was he really that good in college or what?
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I just can't believe this guy was the number 1 pick, was he really that good in college or what?
he came out of high school...first number 1 pick out of high school. He is 23 now.
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Another wonderful performance against the Clippers: 2 points. :-X
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There definitely needs to be more options. No he is not nor will be a superstar anytime soon unless he gets hit by lightning. He can be and is a serviceable big that can get some garbage points, rebound and play d. His position post D is by far the best out of the Lakers big men right now. His offensive game right now is poor, but that will improve in time. He is not a 20/10 player but he can be a 12/7 type player which is all we really need from him right now. There is no reason he can't get there. What I see from him is that he looks uncomfortable and unsure of himself on the court. If he can get those issues together he'll be ok. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
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His problem is,he has butter fingers,the guy can't hang on to anything,he shaves away so many points b/c he can't finish strong or drops the ball when a guard passes him the ball under neeth the basket
The guy is not tough(he's soft),when he goes up for a put back or a lay-up he goes up like a lil bitch,he's always getting block,he's pathetic. >:(
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he fuckin sucks, period. you either got it or you don't, he's been in the fucking league long enough to learn how to score a couple baskets a night and he can't do it ::)
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I can't believe a guy that is almost 7 feet tall can't even average 8-10 points per game...so far he looks like a bust...looks like another shitty trade by mitch...
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he fuckin sucks, period. you either got it or you don't, he's been in the fucking league long enough to learn how to score a couple baskets a night and he can't do it ::)
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There definitely needs to be more options. No he is not nor will be a superstar anytime soon unless he gets hit by lightning. He can be and is a serviceable big that can get some garbage points, rebound and play d. His position post D is by far the best out of the Lakers big men right now. His offensive game right now is poor, but that will improve in time. He is not a 20/10 player but he can be a 12/7 type player which is all we really need from him right now. There is no reason he can't get there. What I see from him is that he looks uncomfortable and unsure of himself on the court. If he can get those issues together he'll be ok. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
^^^REAL Laker fan right here...I can never picture Antonio saying something like this. When the Lakers are in the most need of hope and are at their lowest point, Antonio likes to kick them in the back of the head.
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1. I'm doing it since this summer, when you was predicting 9+ wins for the month of November while i was being pessimistic.
2. I'm calling out Odom and Brown since this summer, when you was talking about them how "future superstars".
3. I haven't changed my opinion cause i was basically right.
Shut up.
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1. I'm doing it since this summer, when you was predicting 9+ wins for the month of November while i was being pessimistic.
2. I'm calling out Odom and Brown since this summer, when you was talking about them how "future superstars".
3. I haven't changed my opinion cause i was basically right.
Shut up.
You weren't right, it's not even all-star break yet...Lakers have always started slow, even in their championship runs, you fuckin hater. :-X
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hows antonio a hater lmfao. He is tame compared to how fans in ny are with there sport teams
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and to answer the question, yes kwame brown is a bust. After watching him in the east for the past 4 years, i could of told you he was a bust. He was always compared to curry and chandler so i always kept a eye on him.
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hows antonio a hater lmfao. He is tame compared to how fans in ny are with there sport teams
Just look how this year's AL MVP was treated lol
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hows antonio a hater lmfao. He is tame compared to how fans in ny are with there sport teams
Just look how this year's AL MVP was treated lol
look at the headline of the new york daily news when arod won mvp.... MV....PU lol. Shows you how demanding we are in new york
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25 million a year...he aint supposed to choke in the playoffs...that goes for any city in the USA
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Compare the shit talking A Rod got to the shit talking Vladdy received after going 1-1000000 in the ALCS. Arod saved the yankees asses last year vs the Twins and had a really good series vs Boston until the tide changed.
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1. I'm doing it since this summer, when you was predicting 9+ wins for the month of November while i was being pessimistic.
2. I'm calling out Odom and Brown since this summer, when you was talking about them how "future superstars".
3. I haven't changed my opinion cause i was basically right.
Shut up.
You weren't right, it's not even all-star break yet...Lakers have always started slow, even in their championship runs, you fuckin hater. :-X
So? I wasn't right because i'm right?
And if it was so obvious then why did you predict 9 wins in November?
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^Cause he's a true fan and believes in his team.
Lol... that's what the truth is.. he just overrates the Lakers as a sort of fan-support. He knows it. He's not objective and he doesn't aim at being objective. He sees everything through purple-gold glasses.
I'm ok with that but the problem starts when he disses every Laker who doesn't roll like that.
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hows antonio a hater lmfao. He is tame compared to how fans in ny are with there sport teams
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=95424.25
Read reply #29...Even ToNe had to tell him to stop with the Laker hating...LOL
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and to answer the question, yes kwame brown is a bust. After watching him in the east for the past 4 years, i could of told you he was a bust. He was always compared to curry and chandler so i always kept a eye on him.
Well, here are the point/rebound averages from all 3 players their first 3 season...
Kwame Brown-
season 1: 4.5 ppg 3.5 rpg
season 2: 7.4 ppg 5.3 rpg
season 3: 10.9 ppg 7.4 rpg
Eddy Curry-
season 1: 6.7 ppg 3.8 rpg
season 2: 10.5 ppg 4.4 rpg
season 3: 14.7 ppg 6.2 rpg
Tyson Chandler-
season 1: 6.1 ppg 4.8 rpg
season 2: 9.2 ppg 6.9 rpg
season 3: 6.1 ppg 7.7 rpg
Looks like all 3 players posted up very similar numbers their first 3 seasons...In fact, by the 3rd season, some had argued that Kwame had surpassed Curry and Chandler. Kwame easily has the ability to be better than both Curry and Chandler in the future...Discluding last season, all 3 players posted up similar career numbers and have progressed season by season...If Brown remains soft and doesn't change anything by the end of this season, I'd say that he's not worth the potential anymore, but he has shown improvements throughout his career and has held his own against Curry and Chandler, both who haven't had the same setbacks as Kwame throughout their career...
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1. I'm doing it since this summer, when you was predicting 9+ wins for the month of November while i was being pessimistic.
2. I'm calling out Odom and Brown since this summer, when you was talking about them how "future superstars".
3. I haven't changed my opinion cause i was basically right.
Shut up.
You weren't right, it's not even all-star break yet...Lakers have always started slow, even in their championship runs, you fuckin hater. :-X
So? I wasn't right because i'm right?
And if it was so obvious then why did you predict 9 wins in November?
I never said they would win 9 games, it's more like I was hoping for it and saw it as a possibility...Obviously, it's gunna take a little longer than 9 games to establish the Lakers as a team... ::)
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I never said they would win 9 games, it's more like I was hoping for it and saw it as a possibility...Obviously, it's gunna take a little longer than 9 games to establish the Lakers as a team... ::)
It was a prediction, fool. How moronic is to vote 9+ wins to a prediction just cause you're a Laker fan and you hope them to win them all? You are a moron.
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I never said they would win 9 games, it's more like I was hoping for it and saw it as a possibility...Obviously, it's gunna take a little longer than 9 games to establish the Lakers as a team... ::)
It was a prediction, fool. How moronic is to vote 9+ wins to a prediction just cause you're a Laker fan and you hope them to win them all? You are a moron.
I am a moron because I had hopes for my team? LMAO...If the Lakers put together a 9 game winning streak this year, I'm gunna personally fly to where you're at and shit all over your lost pride. :-X
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Every laker thread is a damn fucking war between NIK vs Antonio or somebody else. God damn, cant you guys see the difference between what type of fans u guys are. One sees potential the other sees whats going on.
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Every laker thread is a damn fucking war between NIK vs Antonio or somebody else. God damn, cant you guys see the difference between what type of fans u guys are. One sees potential the other sees whats going on.
It doesn't matter, if he was a "hardcore fan" like he claimed, he would at least put some sort of faith in his team...At least you have the balls to know you're not a consistant fan and don't claim to be "crazy" about the Lakers. Antonio seems to think hating on your team and doubting their plans is part of being a hardcore fan... ::)
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I never said they would win 9 games, it's more like I was hoping for it and saw it as a possibility...Obviously, it's gunna take a little longer than 9 games to establish the Lakers as a team... ::)
It was a prediction, fool. How moronic is to vote 9+ wins to a prediction just cause you're a Laker fan and you hope them to win them all? You are a moron.
I am a moron because I had hopes for my team? LMAO...If the Lakers put together a 9 game winning streak this year, I'm gunna personally fly to where you're at and shit all over your lost pride. :-X
Man stop ruining each and every topic Lakers related with your nonsense bullshit. Just admit you made a wrong prediction and eat shit.
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I never said they would win 9 games, it's more like I was hoping for it and saw it as a possibility...Obviously, it's gunna take a little longer than 9 games to establish the Lakers as a team... ::)
It was a prediction, fool. How moronic is to vote 9+ wins to a prediction just cause you're a Laker fan and you hope them to win them all? You are a moron.
I am a moron because I had hopes for my team? LMAO...If the Lakers put together a 9 game winning streak this year, I'm gunna personally fly to where you're at and shit all over your lost pride. :-X
Man stop ruining each and every topic Lakers related with your nonsense bullshit. Just admit you made a wrong prediction and eat shit.
Eat shit? Homeboy, I will shit on your boots and make you clean that shit with your gums. What does a right or wrong prediction have to do with the fact that you're a certified Laker hater? ???
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You was wrong. I was right. I don't want to chat about basketball with you, cause you ain't on my level. Basically you have a good knowledge about basketball, but you are so biased about the Lakers that it's not interesting to have a conversation with you. If I write Brown is a rising star then you'll dickride me, if i write he's a bust (and he is) you'll diss me saying i'm a certified Laker hater. If i quote you other articles from Laker fans where they talk about the same problems i noticed, then you call me a stupid cause i care about media. With you it's impossible to have a serious conversation. So this is my last reply to you. Looser.
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Bynum>Kwame
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You was wrong. I was right. I don't want to chat about basketball with you, cause you ain't on my level. Basically you have a good knowledge about basketball, but you are so biased about the Lakers that it's not interesting to have a conversation with you. If I write Brown is a rising star then you'll dickride me, if i write he's a bust (and he is) you'll diss me saying i'm a certified Laker hater. If i quote you other articles from Laker fans where they talk about the same problems i noticed, then you call me a stupid cause i care about media. With you it's impossible to have a serious conversation. So this is my last reply to you. Looser.
You're totally missing the point. Maybe it's because you don't speak English as well, but you have to look further into things. It ain't as simple as that, I mean TONE has fuckin' called you out on your hating and lack of hope...Does that not tell you anything? Hell, I'VE CRITICIZED THE LAKERS MYSELF! Remember my thread "LAKERS SUCK..."? The difference is that I do it with respect, I show Laker-pride and you don't...For someone watching as a 3rd person, they'd be able to see that I actually live in LA and you don't...That's due to my heavy support for the Lakers and your pessimistic ways of displaying your feelings for your own team. For me, the Lakers are my team. For you, the Lakers are a team you like...I don't think you hate the Lakers, I just think you're a lost cause, and it's causing you to hate ON the Lakers...If you say Odom is playing shitty, Kwame is playing shitty, the system isn't in tact, etc. that's fine...Once you turn around and say shit like, "Kwame will remain a bust, there's no hope for him" and "Clippers own the Lakers and they most likely wont make the playoffs", that's when you get flamed on...PeACe
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Bynum>Kwame
Bynum's future is currently looking more promising, yes.
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You're totally missing the point. Maybe it's because you don't speak English as well, but you have to look further into things. It ain't as simple as that, I mean TONE has fuckin' called you out on your hating and lack of hope...Does that not tell you anything?
No. Because he was talking about my 5 wins prediction without remembering i predicted Lakers to play better and better starting from December too, in the same topic where i predicted 5 wins. I predicted a slow start because i used my mind. I'm not saying Lakers will be out the playoffs or something like that. I've never said that. I only talk about the present. And i've only made 1 prediction about the future, and it was the 5 wins one. A good one, let me add.
Hell, I'VE CRITICIZED THE LAKERS MYSELF! Remember my thread "LAKERS SUCK..."? The difference is that I do it with respect, I show Laker-pride and you don't...For someone watching as a 3rd person, they'd be able to see that I actually live in LA and you don't...That's due to my heavy support for the Lakers and your pessimistic ways of displaying your feelings for your own team. For me, the Lakers are my team. For you, the Lakers are a team you like...
The fact is that i live in Italy. Here nobody cares about the Lakers, really. Here i'm open minded about it, without feeling like i have to "protect" "my" team from the haters. You probably do. You probably have daily conversations with friends who supports the Clippers, or the Heat, or the Queens, etc.. So you are so defensive about the Lakers. Defensive-minded. I don't. So i don't feel like i have to be so protective about them. I'm a fan. An hardcore fan. I wake up at 4 am to see a match via web, in low quality, or simply via radio. And then i go to work at 7 am. Without sleeping at all. I feel like they are "my" team, not simply a team i like. I love them with passion, just like you. But i can't lie to myself. I don't like Brown. I don't like how Odom ain't playing aggressive in offence. I don't like how it's still "pass it to Kobe and let's hope for a 1 vs 3 miracle shot!". I don't like all those things. And i don't care if, from your prospective, i look like a hater. I know i ain't. I speak the truth cause i feel comfortable speaking the truth, and i don't have to defend them from the haters. When someone tries to diss the Lakers without a reason, i'm the first to defend them. But in all honestly, i don't need to be so protective like you. I love basketball. And i don't care about other people's opinion about the Lakers. I got mine. And i'd like to share it with other people (including you, if possible) without being dissed. If i got dissed for just saying what i see, then fuck it, i'll stop posting.
I don't think you hate the Lakers, I just think you're a lost cause, and it's causing you to hate ON the Lakers...If you say Odom is playing shitty, Kwame is playing shitty, the system isn't in tact, etc. that's fine...Once you turn around and say shit like, "Kwame will remain a bust, there's no hope for him" and "Clippers own the Lakers and they most likely wont make the playoffs", that's when you get flamed on...PeACe
I never said the Lakers will not make the playoffs. Clippers owns the Lakers right now means they're better than the Lakers? If it does, that's what i said. About Kwame, I GOT no hope for him. I'm happy you do hope for him to play like a beast. But it's not me who started dissing you over your opinion. It's you.
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Bynum>Kwame
Bynum's future is currently looking more promising, yes.
I do agree. ;D
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You're totally missing the point. Maybe it's because you don't speak English as well, but you have to look further into things. It ain't as simple as that, I mean TONE has fuckin' called you out on your hating and lack of hope...Does that not tell you anything?
No. Because he was talking about my 5 wins prediction without remembering i predicted Lakers to play better and better starting from December too, in the same topic where i predicted 5 wins. I predicted a slow start because i used my mind. I'm not saying Lakers will be out the playoffs or something like that. I've never said that. I only talk about the present. And i've only made 1 prediction about the future, and it was the 5 wins one. A good one, let me add.
Hell, I'VE CRITICIZED THE LAKERS MYSELF! Remember my thread "LAKERS SUCK..."? The difference is that I do it with respect, I show Laker-pride and you don't...For someone watching as a 3rd person, they'd be able to see that I actually live in LA and you don't...That's due to my heavy support for the Lakers and your pessimistic ways of displaying your feelings for your own team. For me, the Lakers are my team. For you, the Lakers are a team you like...
The fact is that i live in Italy. Here nobody cares about the Lakers, really. Here i'm open minded about it, without feeling like i have to "protect" "my" team from the haters. You probably do. You probably have daily conversations with friends who supports the Clippers, or the Heat, or the Queens, etc.. So you are so defensive about the Lakers. Defensive-minded. I don't. So i don't feel like i have to be so protective about them. I'm a fan. An hardcore fan. I wake up at 4 am to see a match via web, in low quality, or simply via radio. And then i go to work at 7 am. Without sleeping at all. I feel like they are "my" team, not simply a team i like. I love them with passion, just like you. But i can't lie to myself. I don't like Brown. I don't like how Odom ain't playing aggressive in offence. I don't like how it's still "pass it to Kobe and let's hope for a 1 vs 3 miracle shot!". I don't like all those things. And i don't care if, from your prospective, i look like a hater. I know i ain't. I speak the truth cause i feel comfortable speaking the truth, and i don't have to defend them from the haters. When someone tries to diss the Lakers without a reason, i'm the first to defend them. But in all honestly, i don't need to be so protective like you. I love basketball. And i don't care about other people's opinion about the Lakers. I got mine. And i'd like to share it with other people (including you, if possible) without being dissed. If i got dissed for just saying what i see, then fuck it, i'll stop posting.
I don't think you hate the Lakers, I just think you're a lost cause, and it's causing you to hate ON the Lakers...If you say Odom is playing shitty, Kwame is playing shitty, the system isn't in tact, etc. that's fine...Once you turn around and say shit like, "Kwame will remain a bust, there's no hope for him" and "Clippers own the Lakers and they most likely wont make the playoffs", that's when you get flamed on...PeACe
I never said the Lakers will not make the playoffs. Clippers owns the Lakers right now means they're better than the Lakers? If it does, that's what i said. About Kwame, I GOT no hope for him. I'm happy you do hope for him to play like a beast. But it's not me who started dissing you over your opinion. It's you.
Look, if you really want me to stop dissing your fan status, then I will...It's just that it's very obvious that you lack a certain amount of hope, faith, and "Laker pride" most -hardcore fans- have...But I'll try to stop the dissin' if it really gets to you that bad.
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It's just boring, man. 10 pages full of us dissing each others, and we both supports the same team. It's plain stupid. Starting from this post i'll never diss a Laker fan again in this board again. Expecially if he's just expressing his own opinion about the team. I feel like we are a family, for real. Things went bad between me and you since i started loosing the faith in Odom, this summer. And since i disliked the Kwame Brown trade/project. You probably got me wrong, and in the noise of the disses i probably was forced to say things i didn't really want to say about Odom and probably Brown. I like Odom. I'm European, so i like all around players with high basketball IQ who plays with intelligence. Odom performed very well with the (used to be known as) Dream Team and with Brown coaching him, cause he's intelligent and very "European" in his playing style. He's a great project, and if i was a coach i'd love to have a player like him in my team. But i expect him to step up big, since i think he's potentially "another Pippen". I expect too much from him, that i don't like what i'm seeing yet. He's shooting too much from 3pts, he's not taking an advantage using his size, he's not making enought shots in the 2nd period to take some pressure off Bryant like he should do. And i'm happy he admitted it. I'm loving his rebounds, i'm loving his assists, i'm loving his basketball IQ, but he needs to take more responsabilities in offence, going 1 on 1, forcing some shots, getting some fouls, shooting more free throws.. in other words he has to start playing like a co-capitain. About Brown, i'm liking his defensive attitude. I mean he can intimidate everyone with his long arms, but he's one of the players with the lowest basketball IQ i've ever seen. The opposite of Odom. He just can't understand his position on the floor, and he's making embarassing performances. Ok, i'll give him more time to understand his role into the team, but - to be honest - he's not the right big guy for the contender team we're building. I'd rather give Bynum a chance. He looks more promising than Brown already. So that's what i'm saying. Maybe the word "bust" is too strong for you to accept it. But i hope Mitch will make another trade in the near future to give Phil another PF to add to the rotation, cause Brown alone isn't enought, and cause Cook and Medvedenko are Euroleague material. Better? Now let's support the Lakers like a family. Peace.
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It's just boring, man. 10 pages full of us dissing each others, and we both supports the same team. It's plain stupid. Starting from this post i'll never diss a Laker fan again in this board again. Expecially if he's just expressing his own opinion about the team. I feel like we are a family, for real. Things went bad between me and you since i started loosing the faith in Odom, this summer. And since i disliked the Kwame Brown trade/project. You probably got me wrong, and in the noise of the disses i probably was forced to say things i didn't really want to say about Odom and probably Brown. I like Odom. I'm European, so i like all around players with high basketball IQ who plays with intelligence. Odom performed very well with the (used to be known as) Dream Team and with Brown coaching him, cause he's intelligent and very "European" in his playing style. He's a great project, and if i was a coach i'd love to have a player like him in my team. But i expect him to step up big, since i think he's potentially "another Pippen". I expect too much from him, that i don't like what i'm seeing yet. He's shooting too much from 3pts, he's not taking an advantage using his size, he's not making enought shots in the 2nd period to take some pressure off Bryant like he should do. And i'm happy he admitted it. I'm loving his rebounds, i'm loving his assists, i'm loving his basketball IQ, but he needs to take more responsabilities in offence, going 1 on 1, forcing some shots, getting some fouls, shooting more free throws.. in other words he has to start playing like a co-capitain. About Brown, i'm liking his defensive attitude. I mean he can intimidate everyone with his long arms, but he's one of the players with the lowest basketball IQ i've ever seen. The opposite of Odom. He just can't understand his position on the floor, and he's making embarassing performances. Ok, i'll give him more time to understand his role into the team, but - to be honest - he's not the right big guy for the contender team we're building. I'd rather give Bynum a chance. He looks more promising than Brown already. So that's what i'm saying. Maybe the word "bust" is too strong for you to accept it. But i hope Mitch will make another trade in the near future to give Phil another PF to add to the rotation, cause Brown alone isn't enought, and cause Cook and Medvedenko are Euroleague material. Better? Now let's support the Lakers like a family. Peace.
How 'bout this...You give Kwame a chance, because if we, as fans, don't give him a chance he'll never have the right encouragement behind his low self-esteem to push him to that next level. He's obviously skilled, he can easily surpass Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler. In fact, look at all 3 of the mentioned big men and their first 3 seasons (I posted it eariler)...Kwame was developing faster and was believed to be the better of the 3. He was improving greatly up until the offseason of 2004 when he broke his ankle and then returned only to get bullied out of playing time (and eventually the playoffs) for "missing practice" by Eddie Jordan...I say we, as Laker fans, give him the chance (and that means A LOT more than 9 games) to develop into the beast everyone thinks he can. I remember Kwame had a stretch for the Wizards where he averaged 25 points and 15 rebounds for a couple weeks and was very into the team and winning at the time...I remember seeing Wizard fans saying how proud they've been of Kwame's development and how they expect him to be great and wouldn't even trade him for Shaq (this was at the time the Lakers were looking to trade Shaq). That's why I think Kwame can do it. I think if we cheer him and and put some faith behind him, he'll be AT LEAST a very serviceable big-man, if not a star...Shit, Curry is a star and it's known that Kwame is much more talented overall than Curry. Now he just needs to apply that talent in the triangle, and he's unfortunately a slow learner...Odom as well, he's pulling in numbers for us, shit, he's not Pippen at the moment, but he's a wise player and knows when to take blame. He just needs to stop settling for the 3-ball and develop a nice mid-range jumper along with a consistant drive to the hoop to perfect his game and finally be recognized as an elite star...But if we never give them the chance, it can never happen...PeACe
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How 'bout this...You give Kwame a chance, because if we, as fans, don't give him a chance he'll never have the right encouragement behind his low self-esteem to push him to that next level. He's obviously skilled, he can easily surpass Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler. In fact, look at all 3 of the mentioned big men and their first 3 seasons (I posted it eariler)...Kwame was developing faster and was believed to be the better of the 3. He was improving greatly up until the offseason of 2004 when he broke his ankle and then returned only to get bullied out of playing time (and eventually the playoffs) for "missing practice" by Eddie Jordan...I say we, as Laker fans, give him the chance (and that means A LOT more than 9 games) to develop into the beast everyone thinks he can. I remember Kwame had a stretch for the Wizards where he averaged 25 points and 15 rebounds for a couple weeks and was very into the team and winning at the time...I remember seeing Wizard fans saying how proud they've been of Kwame's development and how they expect him to be great and wouldn't even trade him for Shaq (this was at the time the Lakers were looking to trade Shaq). That's why I think Kwame can do it. I think if we cheer him and and put some faith behind him, he'll be AT LEAST a very serviceable big-man, if not a star...Shit, Curry is a star and it's known that Kwame is much more talented overall than Curry. Now he just needs to apply that talent in the triangle, and he's unfortunately a slow learner...
The fact is that he's really slow. So much that the Wizards traded him because they thought he wasn't just slow, but mediocre. But you are right about giving him a chance. I mean i didn't want Mitch to trade for him, but he did, so now we are forced to give him a chance. Plus right now we have no better options for the PF spot, unless we trade for somebody.
Odom as well, he's pulling in numbers for us, shit, he's not Pippen at the moment, but he's a wise player and knows when to take blame. He just needs to stop settling for the 3-ball and develop a nice mid-range jumper along with a consistant drive to the hoop to perfect his game and finally be recognized as an elite star...But if we never give them the chance, it can never happen...PeACe
With Odom the situation is different. He knows what to do, and i'm sure he got skills. He's just playing under his potential since he joined the Lakers. In Miami he was the star of the team, i've loved him in Miami. But in L.A. he just suffers Kobe phisologically. He has that "where's Kobe?" mentality on the floor, and i don't like it cause, like you said, he has the potential to be another superstar, and not only the role player he is right now. He needs to step up his game. I want him to be a superstar just like Kobe. To help him. And to outscore him, sometimes. Shit i'd rather prefeer him going 1/30 than 2/2, you know what i mean? I want him to be aggressive. Coaches should double-team him like they usually double-team Kobe. But he needs to step up, man.
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The fact is that he's really slow. So much that the Wizards traded him because they thought he wasn't just slow, but mediocre. But you are right about giving him a chance. I mean i didn't want Mitch to trade for him, but he did, so now we are forced to give him a chance. Plus right now we have no better options for the PF spot, unless we trade for somebody.
Kwame is not a fast learner, true, but that doesn't mean he can't learn at all...He was traded due to his problems with the organization and his trade value was heavily down due to his catashtrophic previous season. That doesn't mean he never progressed...As I pointed out earlier, minus last season, he's shown faster improvements than Curry and Chandler...I believe he can step it up a whole lot, maybe not to superstardom, but he can without a doubt be an excellent role player and a VERY serviceable big-man. We don't even need him to be so much as an offensive force (even though he has it in him to be so), but he can provide us with a very physical and talented big man to shut down (or help shut down) the elite big men of the league on the defensive end. So far, he's been our best defensive presence out of all of our frontcourt players and he's not even close to full potential...All I'm saying is that he's done amazing things in the past and if we give him a chance it could only open the door for him to do it again on a consistant basis...Get the dreezy? If we don't put faith behind him as fans, there's no way he'll pull it together and play like we know he can...
With Odom the situation is different. He knows what to do, and i'm sure he got skills. He's just playing under his potential since he joined the Lakers. In Miami he was the star of the team, i've loved him in Miami. But in L.A. he just suffers Kobe phisologically. He has that "where's Kobe?" mentality on the floor, and i don't like it cause, like you said, he has the potential to be another superstar, and not only the role player he is right now. He needs to step up his game. I want him to be a superstar just like Kobe. To help him. And to outscore him, sometimes. Shit i'd rather prefeer him going 1/30 than 2/2, you know what i mean? I want him to be aggressive. Coaches should double-team him like they usually double-team Kobe. But he needs to step up, man.
Odom will do Odom...If his game doesn't comply with our system, we'll be forced to trade him...So lets not hate too soon...PeACe
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Kwame is not a fast learner, true, but that doesn't mean he can't learn at all...He was traded due to his problems with the organization and his trade value was heavily down due to his catashtrophic previous season. That doesn't mean he never progressed...As I pointed out earlier, minus last season, he's shown faster improvements than Curry and Chandler...I believe he can step it up a whole lot, maybe not to superstardom, but he can without a doubt be an excellent role player and a VERY serviceable big-man. We don't even need him to be so much as an offensive force (even though he has it in him to be so), but he can provide us with a very physical and talented big man to shut down (or help shut down) the elite big men of the league on the defensive end. So far, he's been our best defensive presence out of all of our frontcourt players and he's not even close to full potential...
Are you talking about Mihm, Cook and Medvedenko? Cause even Curry is a better defender than Cook and Medvedenko combined! ::)
All I'm saying is that he's done amazing things in the past and if we give him a chance it could only open the door for him to do it again on a consistant basis...Get the dreezy? If we don't put faith behind him as fans, there's no way he'll pull it together and play like we know he can...
Man, Mitch obviously was desperate when he traded for Kwame Brown. He tried to make a dollar out of 50 cents, but the truth is that the player was a bust, and nobody really wanted to give him another chance. His teammates, his coach, his GM, Michael Jordan, everybody passed on him. Nobody, man. You're talking about "amazing things" done in the past, but stop lying to yourself please. You was very disappointed about the trade too, just check them topics about the trade. Now to say we gotta give him a chance is another different thing. I'll give him a chance, obviously, since he's a Laker. I'll support him when he plays, and i'll hope for him to finally reach his full potential. But you can't deny he's struggling, and he's having big problems understanding the ABC of basketball. He's so damn raw, man. He's a 2-3 years-long project. Too much. I'd rather spend that time trying to make Bynum an All-Star. Consider Odom is struggling playing as the initiator of the triangle. Tex Winter said it, not me. He said Odom should move back to the PF spot, with George SF and with Parker as the initiator. So i think it's time to move Brown to the bench, giving him all the time he needs, but from the bench. He's not ready yet to play as a starter, expecially for a glorious team like the Lakers. We're still in need of an impact front-court player, man. So Mitch, try to make another dollar out of 50 cents, please. And try to make another trade to acquire a most appealing player, please! I'll give Brown all the time of this world, from the bench. But i ain't excited about him, and i ain't excited about his trade at all. He'll move back to the bench soon. So we wasted Butler and Atkins for a bench player, basically. Too raw to start. And who's having great problems trying to find a role for himself in this team. You called it "role player". I call it "bench player".
Odom will do Odom...If his game doesn't comply with our system, we'll be forced to trade him...So lets not hate too soon...PeACe
Finally you're realizing it. Flash: he's struggling. If he needs more time i'll give him more time. But he's struggling, and it seems like he doesn't comply with our system at all. Ask Tex.
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Kwame is not a fast learner, true, but that doesn't mean he can't learn at all...He was traded due to his problems with the organization and his trade value was heavily down due to his catashtrophic previous season. That doesn't mean he never progressed...As I pointed out earlier, minus last season, he's shown faster improvements than Curry and Chandler...I believe he can step it up a whole lot, maybe not to superstardom, but he can without a doubt be an excellent role player and a VERY serviceable big-man. We don't even need him to be so much as an offensive force (even though he has it in him to be so), but he can provide us with a very physical and talented big man to shut down (or help shut down) the elite big men of the league on the defensive end. So far, he's been our best defensive presence out of all of our frontcourt players and he's not even close to full potential...
Are you talking about Mihm, Cook and Medvedenko? Cause even Curry is a better defender than Cook and Medvedenko combined! ::)
I was talking about Kwame Brown... ::)
Man, Mitch obviously was desperate when he traded for Kwame Brown. He tried to make a dollar out of 50 cents, but the truth is that the player was a bust, and nobody really wanted to give him another chance. His teammates, his coach, his GM, Michael Jordan, everybody passed on him. Nobody, man. You're talking about "amazing things" done in the past, but stop lying to yourself please. You was very disappointed about the trade too, just check them topics about the trade. Now to say we gotta give him a chance is another different thing. I'll give him a chance, obviously, since he's a Laker. I'll support him when he plays, and i'll hope for him to finally reach his full potential. But you can't deny he's struggling, and he's having big problems understanding the ABC of basketball. He's so damn raw, man. He's a 2-3 years-long project. Too much. I'd rather spend that time trying to make Bynum an All-Star. Consider Odom is struggling playing as the initiator of the triangle. Tex Winter said it, not me. He said Odom should move back to the PF spot, with George SF and with Parker as the initiator. So i think it's time to move Brown to the bench, giving him all the time he needs, but from the bench. He's not ready yet to play as a starter, expecially for a glorious team like the Lakers. We're still in need of an impact front-court player, man. So Mitch, try to make another dollar out of 50 cents, please. And try to make another trade to acquire a most appealing player, please! I'll give Brown all the time of this world, from the bench. But i ain't excited about him, and i ain't excited about his trade at all. He'll move back to the bench soon. So we wasted Butler and Atkins for a bench player, basically. Too raw to start. And who's having great problems trying to find a role for himself in this team. You called it "role player". I call it "bench player".
Kwame Brown IS an impact fron-court player...11/8 is not impact? He's done that for a full season, and even had a stretch of 25/15 for a little bit...he can do it again under the right conditions, that's all I'm saying...Kwame has proven he can play, now he just needs to apply that talent regularly...
Finally you're realizing it. Flash: he's struggling. If he needs more time i'll give him more time. But he's struggling, and it seems like he doesn't comply with our system at all. Ask Tex.
Well, I've seen both...I've seen Odom succesfuly playing the initiator role for the first 4 games of the season, and then the offense completely collapsed for the next 4...It's not like Odom CAN'T do it, it's just that slumps come a lot in his case, and he needs to eliminate that flaw and stregnthen his weaknesses...If he perfects his drive to the hoop and develops a consistant mid-range jumper, you easily have one of the NBA's top players...
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Kwame is not a fast learner, true, but that doesn't mean he can't learn at all...He was traded due to his problems with the organization and his trade value was heavily down due to his catashtrophic previous season. That doesn't mean he never progressed...As I pointed out earlier, minus last season, he's shown faster improvements than Curry and Chandler...I believe he can step it up a whole lot, maybe not to superstardom, but he can without a doubt be an excellent role player and a VERY serviceable big-man. We don't even need him to be so much as an offensive force (even though he has it in him to be so), but he can provide us with a very physical and talented big man to shut down (or help shut down) the elite big men of the league on the defensive end. So far, he's been our best defensive presence out of all of our frontcourt players and he's not even close to full potential...
Are you talking about Mihm, Cook and Medvedenko? Cause even Curry is a better defender than Cook and Medvedenko combined! ::)
I was talking about Kwame Brown... ::)
I know. But you closed the quoted post by saying "So far, he's been our best defensive presence out of all of our frontcourt players". The other frontcourt players are Cook and Medvedenko. It's not a big deal if Kwame is defending better than them, lol.
Man, Mitch obviously was desperate when he traded for Kwame Brown. He tried to make a dollar out of 50 cents, but the truth is that the player was a bust, and nobody really wanted to give him another chance. His teammates, his coach, his GM, Michael Jordan, everybody passed on him. Nobody, man. You're talking about "amazing things" done in the past, but stop lying to yourself please. You was very disappointed about the trade too, just check them topics about the trade. Now to say we gotta give him a chance is another different thing. I'll give him a chance, obviously, since he's a Laker. I'll support him when he plays, and i'll hope for him to finally reach his full potential. But you can't deny he's struggling, and he's having big problems understanding the ABC of basketball. He's so damn raw, man. He's a 2-3 years-long project. Too much. I'd rather spend that time trying to make Bynum an All-Star. Consider Odom is struggling playing as the initiator of the triangle. Tex Winter said it, not me. He said Odom should move back to the PF spot, with George SF and with Parker as the initiator. So i think it's time to move Brown to the bench, giving him all the time he needs, but from the bench. He's not ready yet to play as a starter, expecially for a glorious team like the Lakers. We're still in need of an impact front-court player, man. So Mitch, try to make another dollar out of 50 cents, please. And try to make another trade to acquire a most appealing player, please! I'll give Brown all the time of this world, from the bench. But i ain't excited about him, and i ain't excited about his trade at all. He'll move back to the bench soon. So we wasted Butler and Atkins for a bench player, basically. Too raw to start. And who's having great problems trying to find a role for himself in this team. You called it "role player". I call it "bench player".
Kwame Brown IS an impact fron-court player...11/8 is not impact? He's done that for a full season, and even had a stretch of 25/15 for a little bit...he can do it again under the right conditions, that's all I'm saying...Kwame has proven he can play, now he just needs to apply that talent regularly...
11/8 is not what i call an impact player, sorry. Decent stats, but not #1 draft pick material.
Finally you're realizing it. Flash: he's struggling. If he needs more time i'll give him more time. But he's struggling, and it seems like he doesn't comply with our system at all. Ask Tex.
Well, I've seen both...I've seen Odom succesfuly playing the initiator role for the first 4 games of the season, and then the offense completely collapsed for the next 4...It's not like Odom CAN'T do it, it's just that slumps come a lot in his case, and he needs to eliminate that flaw and stregnthen his weaknesses...If he perfects his drive to the hoop and develops a consistant mid-range jumper, you easily have one of the NBA's top players...
I agree. Key word is "IF". Like for Brown.
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An impact player isn't a superstar. 11/8 are nice numbers for a 21 year old PF (that was his age when he averaged those numbers)...He can play, he can average at least 11/8, if not 15/10...He just needs a chance from us.
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An impact player isn't a superstar. 11/8 are nice numbers for a 21 year old PF (that was his age when he averaged those numbers)...He can play, he can average at least 11/8, if not 15/10...He just needs a chance from us.
He's the starting PF of the Lakers, with no decent players who can take his role. Plus he's playing for the best coach ever, with the best player in the NBA, and Jabbar worked with him during the preseason. More chance than this one? Anyway say it to Tex. He's the one unhappy about Odom and Brown. My opinion i know doesnt mean shit to you. But at least take his one more seriously.
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An impact player isn't a superstar. 11/8 are nice numbers for a 21 year old PF (that was his age when he averaged those numbers)...He can play, he can average at least 11/8, if not 15/10...He just needs a chance from us.
He's the starting PF of the Lakers, with no decent players who can take his role. Plus he's playing for the best coach ever, with the best player in the NBA, and Jabbar worked with him during the preseason. More chance than this one? Anyway say it to Tex. He's the one unhappy about Odom and Brown. My opinion i know doesnt mean shit to you. But at least take his one more seriously.
So you admit that you expect a slow learner, Kwame Brown, to learn an extremely complex offense, the triangle, in 8 games and instantly become an offensive force? Patience is virtue...We only had him for 8 games. I think we can wait a little more than that.
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An impact player isn't a superstar. 11/8 are nice numbers for a 21 year old PF (that was his age when he averaged those numbers)...He can play, he can average at least 11/8, if not 15/10...He just needs a chance from us.
He's the starting PF of the Lakers, with no decent players who can take his role. Plus he's playing for the best coach ever, with the best player in the NBA, and Jabbar worked with him during the preseason. More chance than this one? Anyway say it to Tex. He's the one unhappy about Odom and Brown. My opinion i know doesnt mean shit to you. But at least take his one more seriously.
So you admit that you expect a slow learner, Kwame Brown, to learn an extremely complex offense, the triangle, in 8 games and instantly become an offensive force? Patience is virtue...We only had him for 8 games. I think we can wait a little more than that.
Man yesterday Cook started for us. 17 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assist, 1 block, 1 steal, 0 turnover.
He might be less skilled than Brown (he is), but he's more ready to play for us. That's my opinion.
I'm not saying he's a better player, but i'd like to see Brown coming from the bench, with less pressure.
I just want him to enter from the bench and to play hard defence when we need that.
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Man yesterday Cook started for us. 17 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assist, 1 block, 1 steal, 0 turnover.
He might be less skilled than Brown (he is), but he's more ready to play for us. That's my opinion.
I'm not saying he's a better player, but i'd like to see Brown coming from the bench, with less pressure.
I just want him to enter from the bench and to play hard defence when we need that.
I was just about too mention that.I said a couple weeks ago "don;t be surprised if B.Cook Starts at the PF".
Having Kwame out there is like playing 5 on 4,He does nothing for this team.With Cook @ least Defences have too pay attention to him b/c he has a jumpshot.B.Cook also plays Team Defence,He's always taking a Charge 8) He might be a little soft when it comes too Defending players 1 0n 1 & rebounding but still..Cook>>>Kwame.
And Cook also hustles,i love that shit,he seems to always know where the ball is at 8) I hope Kwame doesn't Start a Nother game.
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It's up to Cook now. He gotta continue making performances like this one and i think this could be a good option.
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You know you're a bust when Cook takes your spot. LOL..
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the strained right hamstring is the best thing that has happened to him in a while...B.Cook is takin full advantage of this opportunity
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Another 14/7 performance yesterday by Cook.
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You know you're a bust when Cook takes your spot. LOL..
Shut the fuck up faggot!!..B.Cook is a good player.The reason Kwame Got the Starting job is b/c the Lakers wanted to see if he could finally live up to his potential,which he didn't,But B.Cook is a good player,,Just shows how little you know about b-ball,Stupid Euro ;D
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Mmmm.. Cook is a decent bench player with a nice jumpshot. Don't make it looks like he's a better player.
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Mmmm.. Cook is a decent bench player with a nice jumpshot. Don't make it looks like he's a better player.
I'm not,B.Cook will get eat up alive by the real PF's in the NBA.I'm just saying we're getting more out of him from the PF position then Kwame.
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He's on fire, that's for sure. 8)
And 7 was partially right: when you're getting outplayed by a "decent bench player with a nice jumpshot" and you are a #1 draft pick.. it's safe to say you are a bust.
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Of course I was right, like always. Im the man. It doesn't even faze me when people talk shit like "Cook is a good player" LOL. Get the fuck out of there.
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Of course I was right, like always. Im the man. It doesn't even faze me when people talk shit like "Cook is a good player" LOL. Get the fuck out of there.
lol at this piece of shit euro! you think too much of yourself & You don't shit about B-Ball(I've owned you time after time after time)you're just some stupid 19 year old from europe that started fallowing b-ball 2 years ago :laugh:.What you need too do is get off our nuts..lol Even the Haters want to be apart of this Laker thing.
And Cook got the offence of rebound and hit the shot that send the game too O.T. last night(something Kwame would of not done) ..I'm not saying he's one of the best,but he is one of the best when it comes to taking charges and he has a good jumper and he plays hard and hustles.
The Lakers have gotten more out of B.Cook the Last 2 games then they got from Kwame the whole season.If we could get double digit scoring from the PF positon (B.Cook)every night that would be great.
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Of course I was right, like always. Im the man. It doesn't even faze me when people talk shit like "Cook is a good player" LOL. Get the fuck out of there.
And Cook got the offence of rebound and hit the shot that send the game too O.T. last night(something Kwame would of not done) ...
this coming from the guy who keeps telling people they dont know shit about basketball.....
Ill tell you 2 things
1. You dont know shit about basketball
2. You dont know how to spell
LMAO!!!!! "Offence of Rebound" :eh: :loser:
Sorry but I had to say it.....Its called an offensive rebound, and once again..........you got
OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL @ offence of rebound
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I don't think I have to say anything to that.
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"In his unique and condescending way, Coach Phil Jackson questioned Kwame Brown's manhood Tuesday."
Shit.. it's over!!!
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KWAME SUCKSSSS
it's been years in the league man! learn how to pivot and shoot you dumb overpaid retard with cornrows and a headband
doesn't he know that everyone who sees him thinks about how much he sucks?
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doesn't he know that everyone who sees him thinks about how much he sucks?
That mindset is his main problem...Has the talent and skill, lacks the confidence.
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"In his unique and condescending way, Coach Phil Jackson questioned Kwame Brown's manhood Tuesday."
Shit.. it's over!!!
wheres that from? show it in its context
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"In his unique and condescending way, Coach Phil Jackson questioned Kwame Brown's manhood Tuesday."
Shit.. it's over!!!
wheres that from? show it in its context
Just some BS the media really blew out of proportion.
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7 Even Just wants too be apart of this Laker thing.He loves been on our nuts.Fucking Faggot :camp:
He must still be mad that his Favorite team,the "Mav's" choked away the 2nd biggest lead in NBA history going in too the 4rth quarter against the Lakers,and guess who hit the game winning shot in that game? yup,Kobe...which explains his stupid ass sig,7 Even is a nother guy you can't take serious when it comes too the Lakers and Kobe (Tex19 been the other faggot you can't take serious when it comes too the Lakers and kobe (he's a spurs fan,we all know what The Lakers and kobe did too his sorry ass team ;D)
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"In his unique and condescending way, Coach Phil Jackson questioned Kwame Brown's manhood Tuesday."
Shit.. it's over!!!
wheres that from? show it in its context
www.nba.com news, unfortunately you have to register to some annonying editors site to have access to the entire story so I couldnt give a good source/extended version
7 Even Just wants too be apart of this Laker thing.He loves been on our nuts.Fucking Faggot :camp:
He must still be mad that his Favorite team,the "Mav's" choked away the 2nd biggest lead in NBA history going in too the 4rth quarter against the Lakers,and guess who hit the game winning shot in that game? yup,Kobe...which explains his stupid ass sig,7 Even is a nother guy you can't take serious when it comes too the Lakers and Kobe (Tex19 been the other faggot you can't take serious when it comes too the Lakers and kobe (he's a spurs fan,we all know what The Lakers and kobe did too his sorry ass team ;D)
You mind if you change the station? I hate this song. How many times have you said that shit you just said already?
I always speak on basketball, never make personal attacks. Yet I always get attacked with off-topic arguments and insults. I'm the last one to feel shame in here.
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In his unique and condescending way, Lakers coach Phil Jackson questioned Kwame Brown's manhood Tuesday. Brown has been out for almost three weeks with a strained right hamstring that was supposed to heal in two weeks. He's on the six-game road trip but is not expected to play tonight in Toronto or Friday night in Chicago.
-- Press-Enterprise
Los Angeles Times (registration required): "Injured forward Kwame Brown, who has been getting ribbed about his toughness, apparently misinterpreted some of it and didn't want to talk about it after Thursday's practice."
Brown Silent on Jackson Remarks
CHICAGO — Injured forward Kwame Brown, who has been getting ribbed about his toughness, apparently misinterpreted some of it and didn't want to talk about it after Thursday's practice. Brown asked for clarification from the Laker coaching staff before practice after Phil Jackson was quoted Wednesday as saying he often teased Brown about his sturdiness. "Someone called him up and conjectured what it meant rather than having an exact description of what I said," Jackson said Thursday. "His interpretation of it was I said I didn't think he worked hard. Kwame works very hard. He's a very willing person. He does everything we ask him and more. There's absolutely no problem with that at all." Brown has been sidelined for three weeks with a hamstring injury that was expected to take at least two weeks to heal. Brown, averaging 5.9 points and 6.2 rebounds, said he would not play tonight against Chicago. The Lakers' next game is Saturday in Minnesota. Jackson said Tuesday that "I'm not putting pressure on him" when asked about Brown's injury, then added with a smile that he mocked Brown about his toughness "every time I see him in the locker room.". Said Jackson on Thursday: "He laughs. He knows we're kidding with him". Brown was tight-lipped after Thursday's practice. "I won't talk about that," he said. "I'll talk about anything else.". What did he think about Jackson's quotes? "I don't know," Brown said. "I haven't read them". Jackson's recent comments lauding Toronto Raptor forward Chris Bosh irritated a Raptor official, who called them "unbelievable," according to the Toronto Star. "If someone asks our coach about a guy and he says, 'He's a great player,' that's fine," said the official, who was quoted anonymously. "But if he says, 'He's a great player and he'd look great in a Toronto uniform,' that's tampering". Jackson didn't go quite that far, and his observations on Bosh probably were not enough to warrant a case of tampering, a league official said. Jackson told reporters during a Wednesday morning shoot-around in Toronto, "There are some [players] that will be available in the year following that you obviously have to take a look at, and this kid here is one of them. "Chris Bosh, obviously everybody's going to be interested in and we think he's become quite a talent". Bosh, a third-year forward averaging 21.7 points and 10 rebounds, could become a restricted free agent after the 2006-07 season or unrestricted after 2007-08. Jackson clarified his comments after Thursday's practice. "I was just throwing that out there for them to have fun with it in Toronto," he said. "I hadn't seen him play. Think he's a franchise player? You think you want to give $10 million to $15 million to him over seven years?"
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