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Billboard magazine has more details about the deal Nas has with Def Jam.
"I've been in this business a long time and know what a great deal is," Nas (born Nasir Jones) tells Billboard. "I signed a significant and excellent situation."
The deal's terms have Def Jam parent Island Def Jam and Columbia parent Sony Music participating as financial partners in Nas' first two albums under the four-album deal. Def Jam will provide A&R, promotion and distribution for the two sets, while the labels will share marketing.
The recording budget for each album is $3 million. It has been reported that the $3 million includes advances for Nas, but sources familiar with the deal say the rapper received a separate, substantially higher advance.
Sony retains ownership of the masters from Nas' 11-year tenure with Columbia as well as the right to release a greatest-hits collection not shared with Def Jam. Under terms of the pact, Nas will deliver two new tracks for a Sony hits package. Sony may also include up to three tracks from the joint albums on a hits compilation. The company's executives declined to comment.
As for the Jones Experience imprint, it will concentrate "first and foremost on hip-hop," Nas says, adding that he is open to other genres. Signings will be announced shortly. "This is so much bigger than me and Jay-Z," he adds. "We're both excited by what this could potentially mean for hip-hop as a whole."
Source: Billboard
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You knew Nas had to be getting some paper to make this deal happen. As long as he stays true to himself, i'll support.
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You knew Nas had to be getting some paper to make this deal happen. As long as he stays true to himself, i'll support.
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I dunno about Nas under Def jam.I think it willnot fit his style.
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You knew Nas had to be getting some major paper to make this deal happen. As long as he stays true to himself, i'll support.
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I don't think Def Jam will get the sales to justify the paper they spent, BUT, I am glad an artist like Nas got a deal like this. It's a good way to end his career, and his getting the paper that he is owed from the Hip-Hop community. I think some good Hip-Hop will come from this.
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this will do nothing but help nas... and the production work he gets
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Hold on a sec. Nas is getting himself a "Jones Experience" imprint, which means he can basically turn into a label owner now? That's dope, because I believe Nas knows how to find talent. Let's just hope his Def Jam albums can live up to the hype. After the mixed feelings people had after Street's Disciple even though I loved that album, he's sorta back to where he was in 2000 after dropping Nastradamus, except for his legend being certified this time around. The status of his career should motivate him to make another comeback like he did with Stillmatic.
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I don't really understand the deal. Nas is starting to get old. The timing just doesn't seem right.
I think his next album will probably have some big budget glossy beats by the Neptunes, and some fine video hoe's up in the video's, and Jay-Z guest appearances, and in the end the album will flop. It will flop both commercially and critically.
Nas is one of my top 3 favorite rappers of all time. However, I don't support him getting down with Jay-Z. Jay-Z puts so much into marketing albums, but I'm of the opinion that sometimes less is more.
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I don't really understand the deal. Nas is starting to get old. The timing just doesn't seem right.
yes b/c most people would turn down a great deal finacially to get pimped by another record deal. And some you guys have a deep seeded hate for jay. The man is a great rapper but after the nas/jay beef nas stans took it personal lol. Nas is at a point in his career where he makes most of the decisons musically. No one really knows what direction jay will take with other artists and the lable in general but most people assume he'll turn nas back in you owe me nas.
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Hold on a sec. Nas is getting himself a "Jones Experience" imprint, which means he can basically turn into a label owner now? That's dope, because I believe Nas knows how to find talent. Let's just hope his Def Jam albums can live up to the hype. After the mixed feelings people had after Street's Disciple even though I loved that album, he's sorta back to where he was in 2000 after dropping Nastradamus, except for his legend being certified this time around. The status of his career should motivate him to make another comeback like he did with Stillmatic.
what has nas done to prove he can find talent lol. the only rapper he found with talent was Quan. And dont tell me he found mega and AZ
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I don't really understand the deal. Nas is starting to get old. The timing just doesn't seem right.
I think his next album will probably have some big budget glossy beats by the Neptunes, and some fine video hoe's up in the video's, and Jay-Z guest appearances, and in the end the album will flop. It will flop both commercially and critically.
Nas is one of my top 3 favorite rappers of all time. However, I don't support him getting down with Jay-Z. Jay-Z puts so much into marketing albums, but I'm of the opinion that sometimes less is more.
this album will be hot... nas isn't getting old, he is one of the greatest, and he will be until he decides to retire.
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yes b/c most people would turn down a great deal finacially to get pimped by another record deal. And some you guys have a deep seeded hate for jay. The man is a great rapper but after the nas/jay beef nas stans took it personal lol. Nas is at a point in his career where he makes most of the decisons musically. No one really knows what direction jay will take with other artists and the lable in general but most people assume he'll turn nas back in you owe me nas.
I wasn't saying I thought Nas made a bad deal, I was actually saying that I think Def Jam made a bad deal. More than that, I was saying that I think it is a bad deal artistically.
Look no further than Nas' "Last Tapes" album, and you'll see that he doesn't need high priced production and big-name guest appearances to put together a great album. His greatest album "Illmatic" was also short on guest appearances. He did have one big name producer on there but that was Primo, and Primo always stays true. Infact, that album was overseen by MC Search, an underground rapper from 3rd Bass that people care little for; but he did an excellent job with the project.
As for me hating Jay-Z cause of his previous beef with Nas, no way man, you got to understand, I'm an old-school hip-hop head. I've disliked Jay-Z ever since he came out. I didn't even like his first album, and it came out in 96' when I used to think everything on the radio was hot. I still hold the opinion that Jay-Z is an average rapper with zero charisma, who is the product of a great marketing team (and he also knows a thing or two about marketing). Even his beef with Nas didn't inspire me much because even it seemed like another marketing strategy.
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As for me hating Jay-Z cause of his previous beef with Nas, no way man, you got to understand, I'm an old-school hip-hop head. I've disliked Jay-Z ever since he came out. I didn't even like his first album, and it came out in 96' when I used to think everything on the radio was hot. I still hold the opinion that Jay-Z is an average rapper with zero charisma, who is the product of a great marketing team (and he also knows a thing or two about marketing). Even his beef with Nas didn't inspire me much because even it seemed like another marketing strategy.
Same with me. I've never liked Jay-Z and the thought of Jay-Z overseeing Nas's album concerns me.
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You knew Nas had to be getting some paper to make this deal happen. As long as he stays true to himself, i'll support.
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yes b/c most people would turn down a great deal finacially to get pimped by another record deal. And some you guys have a deep seeded hate for jay. The man is a great rapper but after the nas/jay beef nas stans took it personal lol. Nas is at a point in his career where he makes most of the decisons musically. No one really knows what direction jay will take with other artists and the lable in general but most people assume he'll turn nas back in you owe me nas.
I wasn't saying I thought Nas made a bad deal, I was actually saying that I think Def Jam made a bad deal. More than that, I was saying that I think it is a bad deal artistically.
Look no further than Nas' "Last Tapes" album, and you'll see that he doesn't need high priced production and big-name guest appearances to put together a great album. His greatest album "Illmatic" was also short on guest appearances. He did have one big name producer on there but that was Primo, and Primo always stays true. Infact, that album was overseen by MC Search, an underground rapper from 3rd Bass that people care little for; but he did an excellent job with the project.
As for me hating Jay-Z cause of his previous beef with Nas, no way man, you got to understand, I'm an old-school hip-hop head. I've disliked Jay-Z ever since he came out. I didn't even like his first album, and it came out in 96' when I used to think everything on the radio was hot. I still hold the opinion that Jay-Z is an average rapper with zero charisma, who is the product of a great marketing team (and he also knows a thing or two about marketing). Even his beef with Nas didn't inspire me much because even it seemed like another marketing strategy.
A few bones to pick with you lol. How was primo the only big name producer on illmatic. Did i miss something lol. When did Pete Rock, Large Professor, and QTip become small time producers. Everyone knew Qtip from ATCQ, everyone knew the large professor from main source, and same goes for pete rock with cl smooth. The only no name was LES. And When did 3rd bass become a underground group. Pop goes the weesel was huge and everyone in new york knew who they were. Maybe the midwest burbs by you they were a group people cared little for but in NY everyone knew who they were. And Bro, Nas is my favorite rapper and im not that big of a Jay fan but but when it comes to charisma Nas has none, Jay is very charasmatic, thats part of him thats one of the things that helped him blow. I dunno about you either but i know a lot of old school heads, im talkin people that go back to the days of listening to guys like jimmy spicer, audio2, the bubble bunch, whodini, rock master scott an the dynamic 3, fat boys, you name it an they love reasonable doubt. And if your a old school head like you say you are you would love reasonable doubt b/c with the exception of the track with foxy its hip hop in its purest form. You probably havnt even heard RD in its entirety. I Remember talking to you a couple years ago about how much you thought mobb deep sucked yet you hadnt heard the song shook ones pt2 there biggest song and a hip hop classic. So if you dont even know shit like that how can you claim to be a old school head.
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A few bones to pick with you lol. How was primo the only big name producer on illmatic. Did i miss something lol. When did Pete Rock, Large Professor, and QTip become small time producers. Everyone knew Qtip from ATCQ, everyone knew the large professor from main source, and same goes for pete rock with cl smooth. The only no name was LES. And When did 3rd bass become a underground group. Pop goes the weesel was huge and everyone in new york knew who they were. Maybe the midwest burbs by you they were a group people cared little for but in NY everyone knew who they were. And Bro, Nas is my favorite rapper and im not that big of a Jay fan but but when it comes to charisma Nas has none, Jay is very charasmatic, thats part of him thats one of the things that helped him blow. I dunno about you either but i know a lot of old school heads, im talkin people that go back to the days of listening to guys like jimmy spicer, audio2, the bubble bunch, whodini, rock master scott an the dynamic 3, fat boys, you name it an they love reasonable doubt. And if your a old school head like you say you are you would love reasonable doubt b/c with the exception of the track with foxy its hip hop in its purest form. You probably havnt even heard RD in its entirety. I Remember talking to you a couple years ago about how much you thought mobb deep sucked yet you hadnt heard the song shook ones pt2 there biggest song and a hip hop classic. So if you dont even know shit like that how can you claim to be a old school head.
-As for Pete Rock and Cl Smooth, Large Professor and QTip, I like their sound, but I wouldn't consider them big-name producers. If you do, okay, I wouldn't argue with you on that one.
-As for your argument about 3rd Bass being a popular group. The best way I can answer you is that in the midwest where I'm from, wasn't nobody checkin for them. Maybe they were big on the East Coast, but I grew up listening to West Coast hip-hop mostly. I started listening to hip-hop when I was 11 at the time the Chronic came out, and the West Coast dominated my stereo up until I was about 17.
-As for charisma, Nas doesn't have much charisma either, but Nas is deep and eccentric, Jay-Z is as shallow as the baby pool.
-Also, I definitely listened to Reasonable Doubt in it's entirety infact I have the album. 96' was the best year of my youth, and I'm pretty much a collector of anything that came out that year. Almost everything that came out that year was hot. And even now I listen to Reasonable Doubt just purely for nostalgia purposes.
-As for not being familiar with the Mob Deep track "Shook Ones", again, that was probably because the West Coast was dominating my stereo system at the time that album was hot.
...Looking back, I shouldn't have spent so much time listening to West Coast artists back in the days cause I missed out on some great East Coast records. However, it was artists like Nas that did finally open me up to the East Coast.