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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Jay_J on November 30, 2023, 01:21:09 PM
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it's out now!
produced by Dr. Dre & ICU (Focus, Dem Jointz, Trevor Lawrence, Blu2th)
i liked it. it doesn't sound like a big hit single. i'm sure they are going to release their best when the album is out.
fingers crossed!
spotify link
https://open.spotify.com/intl-tr/track/5JxAMHR4qFUzuTdTicEIoV?si=d2fcfc112ae14913
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out where? brother post the link
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out where? brother post the link
you should wait for 00:00 midnight in your country bro. even if i send you link, you can't play it in your region.
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Now I believe the album will be released, later this year.
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Now I believe the album will be released, later this year.
i believe the same for a second, then i remember "got it locked" single of King T and "Last Dayz" teaser of Hittman and lose my hope.
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Yeah, honestly releasing a single on Aftermath means nothing. Think of all the Bishop Lamont stuff that came out and he never dropped either.
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Track is fire. Where's the sample from? Sounds like some James Bond shit but they replayed it all.
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Fredwreck has involved in the project too. 8)
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Love the second half!!
This is nice
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I’d rather get Dre rap album then slow rnb album but still.
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Auuuu this is fire for real. Mix is amazing.
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Track is fire so musical like James Bond intro movie
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^Just what i was thinking, Marsha and Dre should do the next 007 theme song...would be big and they ready for it.
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Not going to lie, didn’t know what to expect but this is good music.
Now looking forward to her album.
If it’s going to be this well produced.
Hopefully it drops soon now
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Ya all hear 'The World Is Yours' sample from Illmatic in this? Sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd_7JX0eHP8&t=196s
(https://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/dr-dre-marasha-ambrosius-tgj.jpeg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA9t1nSGXXE
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As a play on the album title, whole record might be all on some smoky 1920s black and white movies shit.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QKEyaOvSwHs/maxresdefault.jpg)
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nicest dre production in a minute
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Nice! 8)
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Yeah, honestly releasing a single on Aftermath means nothing. Think of all the Bishop Lamont stuff that came out and he never dropped either.
Bishop never released a single. Opposite true no? Dozens of acts that never dropped anything
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Yeah this is dope.. it has a lot of ol' school Frank Sinatra -- the feel is like an R&B version of that "Unforgettable" joint Nas did in 07'.
...but this is just off one listen we will see what the replay value is like
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Fredwreck has involved in the project too. 8)
he is credited as "programmer".?
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he is credited as "programmer".?
yeah Dre gets like 1,000 people to come through just so that he can release one song and an album that will probably never come out
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Not bad, seems like he's fine tuning his sound again. Looking forward to what's next.
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nicest dre production in a minute
Great track! Whoever mentioned 007 is on point. This sounds very cinematic and fresh.
The closest vibe or style of production/instrumental from Dre that I can connect is:
Boss Life
Imagine
From The Blue Carpet Treatment.
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he is credited as "programmer".?
Probably programmed the drum patterns on Fruity Loops
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he is credited as "programmer".?
Let's see when the full album drops. ;D
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Probably programmed the drum patterns on Fruity Loops
🤣
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Yeah this is dope.. it has a lot of ol' school Frank Sinatra -- the feel is like an R&B version of that "Unforgettable" joint Nas did in 07'.
...but this is just off one listen we will see what the replay value is like
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and I'm from the old school where we had attention spans and not this ADHD age of 2 minute tracks :laugh:
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Damn, track is really good. Mix is next level.
Fred programing an orcestra. I guess dre decide to give everyone his credit.
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Production is dope
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Yup, this is a song. I really hope Dre just lets this woman release her album now. Because if he's waiting for some kind of mainstream attention, this isn't going to get any. In fact, no one on this forum would even give a shit if Dre wasn't involved.
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good track but i feel like this project needs to be judged in it's entirety, if it releases.
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it has been 2 years already since album is done and they even made a listening party.
after 2 years they decided to release a single and promotion really sucks. even dr. dre's himself didn't share the song. wtf???
no commercials, no marketing, stream numbers are not going well at all.
seems like marsha is an independent artists and release her own taste of music and doesnt give a fuck about sales.
wtf!!! this is and interscope/aftermath artist!!! where's the lable and marketing?
honestly i believe, lable and dr. dre will not be happy with the interaction and album will be shelved.
by the way I LOVED THE SONG! one of the dopest tracks i heard lately and im sure album is dope too.
dre is about to ruin it. i can feel that.
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Yup, this is a song. I really hope Dre just lets this woman release her album now. Because if he's waiting for some kind of mainstream attention, this isn't going to get any. In fact, no one on this forum would even give a shit if Dre wasn't involved.
I hope this gets released! This is great music - its definitely not what you are going to hear on Virgin music radio top 40 but nonetheless …
Im sure the doc knows that, he just has to be confident. The album could get 50 x 5 star reviews from media but not sell shit compared to pop music these days.
If I was at at the end if my career, quality not quantity would be very important.
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This shit is knocking but it’s Dre and the sound and the samples (which damn he needs to stay in that pocket his shit was a little bland lately). It will be dope to hear the album hopefully we get the chance! Fingers crossed
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it has been 2 years already since album is done and they even made a listening party.
after 2 years they decided to release a single and promotion really sucks. even dr. dre's himself didn't share the song. wtf???
no commercials, no marketing, stream numbers are not going well at all.
seems like marsha is an independent artists and release her own taste of music and doesnt give a fuck about sales.
wtf!!! this is and interscope/aftermath artist!!! where's the lable and marketing?
honestly i believe, lable and dr. dre will not be happy with the interaction and album will be shelved.
by the way I LOVED THE SONG! one of the dopest tracks i heard lately and im sure album is dope too.
dre is about to ruin it. i can feel that.
Yeah so who is just sitting back paying for all this???? Okay so Dre’s studio time is worth nothing? Marsha’s time is worth nothing? The armies of talented musicians and artists that log hours for this shit?? And what’s the return on the investment??
I swear the music industry makes no fucking sense sometimes.
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Yeah so who is just sitting back paying for all this???? Okay so Dre’s studio time is worth nothing? Marsha’s time is worth nothing? The armies of talented musicians and artists that log hours for this shit?? And what’s the return on the investment??
I swear the music industry makes no fucking sense sometimes.
Just killing time, a bunch of friends hanging out making music. It's what they enjoy doing.
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Just killing time, a bunch of friends hanging out making music. It's what they enjoy doing.
Okay, that fine if that's what they want to do, but stop talking about it if there's no intent to release any of that music to the public.
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Okay, that fine if that's what they want to do, but stop talking about it if there's no intent to release any of that music to the public.
To be fair, Dre isn't talking much about it. It's mainly rappers trolling or producers who are trying to get some clout by posting pictures of them and Dre on IG saying they've been in the studio with him in order to get some views and some work.
I'm curious, did Dre himself ever mention anything about "Missionary", that he's 100% producing it all and it's definitely coming out? Or did this come from Snoop and other hanger-ons that are spreading this to get views and attention?
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To be fair, Dre isn't talking much about it. It's mainly rappers trolling or producers who are trying to get some clout by posting pictures of them and Dre on IG saying they've been in the studio with him in order to get some views and some work.
I'm curious, did Dre himself ever mention anything about "Missionary", that he's 100% producing it all and it's definitely coming out? Or did this come from Snoop and other hanger-ons that are spreading this to get views and attention?
100% right
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i've listened to the song about 5 times now, trying to force myself to be amazed but can't bring myself to say its anything more than average. I been a Floetry fan since Say Yes and Marsha stuff is cool but if this is the single then it is what it is. I'm more impressed with Terrace Martin and Alex Isley that came out last month, Marsha should have just done an album with him her vocals on tracks like this would be great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR7WRDKvjWo
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Just killing time, a bunch of friends hanging out making music. It's what they enjoy doing.
I suppose... I guess if you own the studio... and your name is Dr. Dre... I mean people will just come and make music with you for free...
...but there's other factors too. They say Dre is some big perfectionist and makes people do like 100 takes just for like an outro or something like that. So...somebody like Busta Rhymes has nothing to do but do 100 takes of an outro for a song that never gets used??
Also.. I liked the song when I heard it but have I gone back and listened to it a second time. No
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Is Marsha signed to Aftermath? I doubt she's doing it for free.
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Is Marsha signed to Aftermath? I doubt she's doing it for free.
Okay great so somebody doesn't mind paying her for all that studio time etc. for an album that will never come out?
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Okay great so somebody doesn't mind paying her for all that studio time etc. for an album that will never come out?
I suppose all these people are getting paid. The orchestra, session musicians, Fred Wreck etc. The ICU, Dre's in house producers. All on the payroll I hope.
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To be fair, Dre isn't talking much about it. It's mainly rappers trolling or producers who are trying to get some clout by posting pictures of them and Dre on IG saying they've been in the studio with him in order to get some views and some work.
I'm curious, did Dre himself ever mention anything about "Missionary", that he's 100% producing it all and it's definitely coming out? Or did this come from Snoop and other hanger-ons that are spreading this to get views and attention?
Yes he did, he was the one that mentioned it most recently actually
At an event in LA where he was presented with an Award
He said this would be the 2nd time he’s producing a whole Snoop album after Doggystyle
https://youtu.be/tZli2RjJCK0?si=CxsE5zxaAVkbbH-V
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It will come, the album has been postponed to 2024. Because it's not finished yet. Other artists also postpone their albums up to 1 year, and nobody cares about that
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It will come, the album has been postponed to 2024. Because it's not finished yet. Other artists also postpone their albums up to 1 year, and nobody cares about that
Because other artist actually release albums
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No one has said so far that the albums will not be released, not even on the contrary, so stay relaxed
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Because other artist actually release albums
Bingo. Dre doesn't release shit. He hypes, he gathers musicians in the studio, they record, and then he produces. And produces. And produces. And produces. And then he's either not happy with the final product or has gotten bored and distracted with another new promising musician and therefore shelves the current musician's years of hard work, possibly causing that musician to have missed out on a bunch of pre-release hype, thus blowing their shit at stardom. 2pac said in an interview once that Death Row dropped Dre because dude would spend three years working on one song. That used to be exaggeration, but now it's reality.
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As dre said one time "we make music for ourself. We haveing a good time, music comes out grate. Thats private"
I think dres problrm is that he cant find a good rapper or songwriter.
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As dre said one time "we make music for ourself. We haveing a good time, music comes out grate. Thats private"
I think dres problrm is that he cant find a good rapper or songwriter.
He should find a good musician and producer first.
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I suppose all these people are getting paid. The orchestra, session musicians, Fred Wreck etc. The ICU, Dre's in house producers. All on the payroll I hope.
So who is the guy wasting his money on all this stuff that doesn't care about any return on his investment.. Is Dre's operation ran by the Federal Reserve Bank?
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2pac said in an interview once that Death Row dropped Dre because dude would spend three years working on one song. That used to be exaggeration, but now it's reality.
yeah... but in the case of Pac's criticism—when the songs you finally release are "California Love" or "Keep Your Heads Ringing" those are tracks worth more than an entire career's worth of mediocre production.
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As dre said one time "we make music for ourself. We haveing a good time, music comes out grate. Thats private"
I think dres problrm is that he cant find a good rapper or songwriter.
And his problem also is that he sold his soul to the devil. Since when did fuccin rap artists put up devil horns? Rap artists always through up gang signs. And now it's just a coincidence that at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and at the End of the Superbowl performance with all the spotlight on him he just happens to throw up devil horns?? Just a coincidence??
COMPTON in my eyes was a flawless classic on par with the gold standard of Chronic, Doggystyle, and 2001. But he ain't done shit since then because it was around the time of the Coward-19 Scamdemic Dre sold his soul.
..though I'm more certain of my Flat Earth conspiracy theory (100% certain) than I am of Dre devil worshipping conspiracy (maybe 60%/40%)
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And his problem also is that he sold his soul to the devil. Since when did fuccin rap artists put up devil horns? Rap artists always through up gang signs. And now it's just a coincidence that at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and at the End of the Superbowl performance with all the spotlight on him he just happens to throw up devil horns?? Just a coincidence??
COMPTON in my eyes was a flawless classic on par with the gold standard of Chronic, Doggystyle, and 2001. But he ain't done shit since then because it was around the time of the Coward-19 Scamdemic Dre sold his soul.
..though I'm more certain of my Flat Earth conspiracy theory (100% certain) than I am of Dre devil worshipping conspiracy (maybe 60%/40%)
What's wrong with you? Many disturbed people here
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Bingo. Dre doesn't release shit. He hypes, he gathers musicians in the studio, they record, and then he produces. And produces. And produces. And produces. And then he's either not happy with the final product or has gotten bored and distracted with another new promising musician and therefore shelves the current musician's years of hard work, possibly causing that musician to have missed out on a bunch of pre-release hype, thus blowing their shit at stardom. 2pac said in an interview once that Death Row dropped Dre because dude would spend three years working on one song. That used to be exaggeration, but now it's reality.
Pac and Dre had different ways of working...Pac was a one or 2 take, knock many tracks out during a single day type...his work ethic was 2nd to none and rubbed off on a lot of Death Row artists who adapted his way of doing things...that's why a lot of his songs sound raw
Dre was a perfectionist and more methodical but you could never argue with the results of his work either...he would always get the best out of his artists
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Pac and Dre had different ways of working...Pac was a one or 2 take, knock many tracks out during a single day type...his work ethic was 2nd to none and rubbed off on a lot of Death Row artists who adapted his way of doing things...that's why a lot of his songs sound raw
Dre was a perfectionist and more methodical but you could never argue with the results of his work either...he would always get the best out of his artists
Yeah whats ironic about that though is that Snoop and Kurupt credit 2pac with teaching them that work ethic and then they subsequently started putting out a lot subpar material in the years that followed. Alot of filler on that Kuruption album and you could argue Da Game album was entirely made up of filler aside from the Meach single
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Pac and Dre had different ways of working...Pac was a one or 2 take, knock many tracks out during a single day type...his work ethic was 2nd to none and rubbed off on a lot of Death Row artists who adapted his way of doing things...that's why a lot of his songs sound raw
Dre was a perfectionist and more methodical but you could never argue with the results of his work either...he would always get the best out of his artists
I don't think Dre produced ANY songs specifically for Pac. Pac came in and rapped on the Can't C Me beat, which had been done way back for the Dogg Pound album. Then California Love was already done for Dre's second album and he allowed Pac to spit a verse and put it on his album instead.
I look at is as Pac came in and they had a bunch of unused beats that Dre made for different artists and Pac cherry picked a few of the beats and rapped over them. I don't buy this whole notion that Pac and Dre were in the studio together, Dre was coaching Pac, making beats that would fit Pac's rap style, etc. That's become Dre's narrative over the last 10 years, but it didn't happen that way.
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I don't think Dre produced ANY songs specifically for Pac. Pac came in and rapped on the Can't C Me beat, which had been done way back for the Dogg Pound album. Then California Love was already done for Dre's second album and he allowed Pac to spit a verse and put it on his album instead.
I look at is as Pac came in and they had a bunch of unused beats that Dre made for different artists and Pac cherry picked a few of the beats and rapped over them. I don't buy this whole notion that Pac and Dre were in the studio together, Dre was coaching Pac, making beats that would fit Pac's rap style, etc. That's become Dre's narrative over the last 10 years, but it didn't happen that way.
Fun fact from J Flexx: “California Love” and “Blunt Time” were both made on the same day because Roger Troutman was in the studio doing those hooks and Flexx was writing them. Dre was rapping the verses. Dre rapped that day on “Blunt Time”
“rollin in a lotus /
with soul like otis// reddin /
i end a rappers career like armaggedon/“
Think of a Dre solo album leading off with
“California Love”
“Keep The Heads Wringin”
“Blunt Time”
“Been there Done That”
…if the whole album was on par with the above joints then that shit would’ve been more fire than the Chronic and 2001
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Fun fact from J Flexx: “California Love” and “Blunt Time” were both made on the same day because Roger Troutman was in the studio doing those hooks and Flexx was writing them. Dre was rapping the verses. Dre rapped that day on “Blunt Time”
“rollin in a lotus /
with soul like otis// reddin /
i end a rappers career like armaggedon/“
Think of a Dre solo album leading off with
“California Love”
“Keep The Heads Wringin”
“Blunt Time”
“Been there Done That”
…if the whole album was on par with the above joints then that shit would’ve been more fire than the Chronic and 2001
For sure, i really liked Dre's 95/96 sound. When he had Flex and Sneed helping him. Tracks like Nas is Coming and NBK are more that could've been on Chronic 2. Same with a few of the tracks that DOC ended up using for his Helter Skelter album that were rumored to originally be Chronic 2 tracks. To me, that's always going to be the biggest loss to hip hop, that a 95/96 Dre Death Row album never dropped.
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Pac and Dre had different ways of working...Pac was a one or 2 take, knock many tracks out during a single day type...his work ethic was 2nd to none and rubbed off on a lot of Death Row artists who adapted his way of doing things...that's why a lot of his songs sound raw
Dre was a perfectionist and more methodical but you could never argue with the results of his work either...he would always get the best out of his artists
I understand that. But that wasn't my point. What I was trying to say is at some point, Dre has to finish a song. He can't keep producing something for years and years. Is he ever going to be under pressure to say something is good enough and then release it again? I'm sure a song that's only 90% good enough for Dre's personal standards is still going to shit on nearly every other rap song out there. I don't understand how he doesn't have any one overseeing him. Like someone else said, who the hell is bankrolling the years and years and years of recording with dozens upon dozens of musicians? When will it get to the point that Dre needs to recoup these expenses and potentially make some profit for his investors? Or if he's self funding all this studio time, at what point does he want to make the money back for himself?
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I understand that. But that wasn't my point. What I was trying to say is at some point, Dre has to finish a song. He can't keep producing something for years and years. Is he ever going to be under pressure to say something is good enough and then release it again? I'm sure a song that's only 90% good enough for Dre's personal standards is still going to shit on nearly every other rap song out there. I don't understand how he doesn't have any one overseeing him. Like someone else said, who the hell is bankrolling the years and years and years of recording with dozens upon dozens of musicians? When will it get to the point that Dre needs to recoup these expenses and potentially make some profit for his investors? Or if he's self funding all this studio time, at what point does he want to make the money back for himself?
Yes he has his own studio and all his own equipment. And people swing by and jam with him and no one is paying them. It’s friends hanging out. If Dre asked you to come by and rap on something he was working on, you’d do it for free. Guess what, so do these other cats. Dre has more money than he will ever need in his life. He enjoys making music and does it for fun not to release. People need to realize that.
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even if people need paying Dre has near-infinite resources so there's never any onus to release any music whatsoever. as far as music creation goes it's like money doesn't exist.
recording a 5-star album with Marsha - paying all the musicians, engineers, orchestra you name it. that's literally pocket money for him.
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Didn’t know that story about blunt time
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For sure, i really liked Dre's 95/96 sound. When he had Flex and Sneed helping him. Tracks like Nas is Coming and NBK are more that could've been on Chronic 2. Same with a few of the tracks that DOC ended up using for his Helter Skelter album that were rumored to originally be Chronic 2 tracks. To me, that's always going to be the biggest loss to hip hop, that a 95/96 Dre Death Row album never dropped.
Yeah no doubt… and we could even add East Coast Killaz/West Coast Killaz to the mix because if “Been There Done That” was done with Flexx it’s likely he originally cooked up the beat at least when he was at Death Row…but maybe KRS and Nas and all that had to come later—no way Nas was with Dre on Death Row but at least the beat…
What DOC songs you think were Chronic 2 exactly.
I agree with you though—I mean can you imagine if Dre sequenced all those joints and had skits and intros and everything and was able to make those joints all flow in one concept and it was released in the Fall on Death Row?!? Instead of in the fall on Aftermath.
I mean — shit, Snoop would’ve definitely had to push back Doggfather because there would’ve been no way Snoop could exist in a space with All Eyez On Me, Chronic 2, and a 7 Day Theory album (minus the Dre disses).
I still bug out over this alternative timeline/history of Dre never leaves Death Row I mean we might be talking like Michael Jackson Thriller type numbers it’s hard to conceive which is why Pac had to die cause no way they’d let a G like Suge reach that level in this Illuminati Matrix
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Yeah no doubt… and we could even add East Coast Killaz/West Coast Killaz to the mix because if “Been There Done That” was done with Flexx it’s likely he originally cooked up the beat at least when he was at Death Row…but maybe KRS and Nas and all that had to come later—no way Nas was with Dre on Death Row but at least the beat…
What DOC songs you think were Chronic 2 exactly.
I agree with you though—I mean can you imagine if Dre sequenced all those joints and had skits and intros and everything and was able to make those joints all flow in one concept and it was released in the Fall on Death Row?!? Instead of in the fall on Aftermath.
I mean — shit, Snoop would’ve definitely had to push back Doggfather because there would’ve been no way Snoop could exist in a space with All Eyez On Me, Chronic 2, and a 7 Day Theory album (minus the Dre disses).
I still bug out over this alternative timeline/history of Dre never leaves Death Row I mean we might be talking like Michael Jackson Thriller type numbers it’s hard to conceive which is why Pac had to die cause no way they’d let a G like Suge reach that level in this Illuminati Matrix
I believe the beats for Da Hereafter and Secret Plan were done over at Death Row. Listen to those tracks and listen to NBK and some of the songs from Sam Sneed’s unreleased Death Row album like Bone Breakerz and you can definitely hear alot of resemblances.
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first single made 55k listeners on youtube and its almost been a month already.
i don't think it will come out.
maybe 10 years it will leak.
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first single made 55k listeners on youtube and its almost been a month already.
i don't think it will come out.
maybe 10 years later it will leak.
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first single made 55k listeners on youtube and its almost been a month already.
i don't think it will come out.
maybe 10 years later it will leak.
Is anyone surprised by the lack of interest? It doesn't sound like what's popular in music today and Marsha is not exactly a household name with a devoted fanbase. Hell, in my opinion, no one here would give two shits if Dre wasn't involved.
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Regardless if sells or not, isn't it good that Dre producing and releasing music for the sake of it ?
Real reason we may get this is that there isn't past work to compare this to for him. Not the same old lane he's been in so can't disappoint die hard fans, or himself, too much
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Is anyone surprised by the lack of interest? It doesn't sound like what's popular in music today and Marsha is not exactly a household name with a devoted fanbase. Hell, in my opinion, no one here would give two shits if Dre wasn't involved.
U ain't lying. Still too bad tho, the music's fire
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live performance (36:05)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzsFOTvCW0E#t=36m05s
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live performance (36:05)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzsFOTvCW0E#t=36m05s
So album will be approx. 35 minutes long? It will fir new standards. Once EP now LP.
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So album will be approx. 35 minutes long? It will fir new standards. Once EP now LP.
why do you think so? she sings her old songs in this concert, she sings only "the greatest" from casablanco.
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why do you think so? she sings her old songs in this concert, she sings only "the greatest" from casablanco.
OK, I thought she sings whole album.
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why do you think so? she sings her old songs in this concert, she sings only "the greatest" from casablanco.
I was wondering that too, as if they were going to perform the entire new album before it was out
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lol this thread