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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 19, 2003, 11:37:17 AM
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4 those that don't go on siccness.....
"no waitin homie, come on kids when bleek was 12 years old i had "puttin it on the map" hittin the street JUNE 16, 1992 the very first GET LOW RECORDS project. bleek is on roc a fella NOT GET LOW he tryin to claim it as click name for him and his crew, so now what it has officially come to is straight up competition
and free promotion for the fact that he has more people talking about it which brings more our way, but he still gone get smashed for violating our shit period."
gyeaaa, he gone get smashed onnn.......lol....naw, but my cuzzin told me word is memphis bleek is comin 2 promote in tha bay next week!!!
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by tha way...4 those that dunno what's goin on...JT and Memphis had a deal and Memphis didn't abide....
3 months ago @ tha roc the mic concert in tha bay...
JT:
"YEAH THE BEEF OVER GET LOW RECORDS HAS BEEN SQAUSHED AT THIS POINT WE HAD A FACE TO FACE MEETING SET UP BY NONE OTHER THAN JAY Z HIMSELF. HE GOT ME AND BLEEK TOGETHER TO HANDLE THIS MATTER FACE TO FACE NO CREWS NO GANGS JUST FACTS, AND I MUST SAY BY THE END OF THE CONVERSATION HE HAD TO RESPECT MY MIND AND MY HUSTLE. HE SWORE HE NEVER KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT US, ALSO HE WAS UPSET ABOLUT THE DIS RECORDS BUT HAD TO RESPECT OUR ATTACK OVER WHAT WE BUILT. HE GOT IT TATTED AS WELL AS ALL HIS SIDE MEMBERS. HE CLAIMED IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THANG. THE DEAL MADE WAS THAT IF HE WANTED TO PURSUE THE USE OF THE NAME GET LOW HE WOULD HAVE TO ADD "EAST" TO IT SO THERE WOULD BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN OUR TO CAMPS. NOW WE DID ALL THIS ON A HAND SHAKE SO AS OF RIGHT NOW IM GIVING HIM THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT THAT HE IS GOING TO RESPECT THE TERMS BUT IF NOT THEN THE BEEF CAN GO ON AND THE NEXT PHASE OF BUSINESS WILL BE THE COURT ROOM SO THAT I CAN BE SOME EVIDENCE COMING TO THE TABLE. AND IF GOES THAT ROUTE WE WILL BE ADDING SOME EXTRA ZEROS TO OUR ACCOUNTS.
ONE CRITICAL FACTOR IN THESE KIND OF DISPUTES IS THAT IF HE NEVER RELEASES NOTHING UNDER THAT NAME WE CANT GET ONE RED NICKLE.
BUT HOPEFULLY HE WILL RESPECT THE HUSTLE AND MAKE THE DISTINCTION."
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i really wonder how this shits gonna end
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this shit is dumb. straight up retarded..."man you can't have our name only we can have that...you gon' die bitch"...fuckin queers.
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this shit is dumb. straight up retarded..."man you can't have our name only we can have that...you gon' die bitch"...fuckin queers.
DOOD......I seriously don't think U get it....after all these days I been explainin on them otha threads......please don't ever get into business in da future......
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this shit is dumb. straight up retarded..."man you can't have our name only we can have that...you gon' die bitch"...fuckin queers.
Nah man - I can totally see JT's point.
It's like if someone came on here and made their username 'Luke'. Wouldn't you quite rightly have a problem with them doing that if you'd already established your rep as a poster here?
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^^ lmao no....i really wouldnt give a fuck...it would make shit confusing but honestly i could care less.
fighting over words, colors, streets...its all fuckin stupid...you can say shit like "homie thats how we get down around here, we rep our block, blah blah fuckin blah"...but when it all comes down to it you dont own shit. JT doesnt own the words "get low", nobody owns fuckin red or blue, nobody owns fuckin crenshaw. shits rediculous.
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Put it this way. To the unknowing, JT's Get Low and Memph's Get Low are the same. To the unknowing, if Memph drops garbage, which is very highly possibly, then whenever they see a JT Get Low CD, they'll associate the two and probably never even bother with JT. Not to mention, the unknowing may think Bleek is on Get Low and they'll buy the record. Bleek is using a name of a label 10+ years deep, with an extensive catalogue. That's a lot of promotion Bleek is getting, free.
BTW, I'm sure the name "Get Low" is copyrighter. So, he owns the rights to em.
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Put it this way. To the unknowing, JT's Get Low and Memph's Get Low are the same. To the unknowing, if Memph drops garbage, which is very highly possibly, then whenever they see a JT Get Low CD, they'll associate the two and probably never even bother with JT. Not to mention, the unknowing may think Bleek is on Get Low and they'll buy the record. Bleek is using a name of a label 10+ years deep, with an extensive catalogue. That's a lot of promotion Bleek is getting, free.
BTW, I'm sure the name "Get Low" is copyrighter. So, he owns the rights to em.
chances are anybody who will buy a bleek cd probably doesnt listen to JT's get low and visa versa. we're talkin bleek vs. bay area...two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT types of rap. i personally could give a shit less what label it drops on. if its bullshit its bullshit, its not gonna make me like a record label less.
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Your retarded Luke, learn something about business before you argue. (and you claim you don't argue for the sake of it.) Do you know how many business go through litigation over the name of the business? It happens all the time. This ain't some shit about gangs, colors, rap, or shit like that. This is real fucking business shit.
If you went and started up a porn company called In-N-Out, do you think the fast food burger restaurant In-N-Out is just gonna sit back and not do anything about it? Hell fucking no, they are gonna sue.
please stop speaking on issues where you obviously have no knowledge.
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yup, luke needs to shut up about this . aint understandin.
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Put it this way. To the unknowing, JT's Get Low and Memph's Get Low are the same. To the unknowing, if Memph drops garbage, which is very highly possibly, then whenever they see a JT Get Low CD, they'll associate the two and probably never even bother with JT. Not to mention, the unknowing may think Bleek is on Get Low and they'll buy the record. Bleek is using a name of a label 10+ years deep, with an extensive catalogue. That's a lot of promotion Bleek is getting, free.
BTW, I'm sure the name "Get Low" is copyrighter. So, he owns the rights to em.
chances are anybody who will buy a bleek cd probably doesnt listen to JT's get low and visa versa. we're talkin bleek vs. bay area...two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT types of rap. i personally could give a shit less what label it drops on. if its bullshit its bullshit, its not gonna make me like a record label less.
If JT was smart, which he probably is, he would have copyrighted and trademarked the name, as would ANY record label. It's not about gangs and shit man, IT'S ABOUT BUSINESS! What if you had a company called (ONLY FOR EXAMPLE) "DUBCC Records" and you've been putting out product for 10 years. Then I come along and start "DUBCC Records" AFTER you've already put in work and OWN THE NAME! What the fuck is that, gang shit? NO, IT'S BUSINESS SHIT! IT'S KNOWING HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS! It's simple shit man, anybody should be able to get it. It's like some dude starting a fastfood chain called Mcdonalds after McDonalds already hade over a billion served. It's business man, and if you dont know anything about it, don't speak on it and say stupid shit. I'm not a genius or an expert, but even the simplest thinking man/woman would know you can't steal another companies name and make it yours.
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Luke....U are officially tha DUBCC DUMBFUCK....U have no idea what U talking about and U sure as hell dunno nothin about business....
and yur lil gang remarks are stupid as fuc too....people who think shit goes down because of just "colors" have no idea what shit is based on....Media really confuses kids that don't have knowledge about that sort of thing....It's true what they say, U really can't learn without experience....
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it's bout 2 get ugly... jt will smash bleek... i like bleek, his album was coo but that's the first thing i notcied why the fuck he yellin' get low all the time cuz i know jt had that get low shit way before him. it ain't no message board shit, it some1 took my name it's not that big of a deal but this is alot bigger than that...
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yes^
and in tha bay, get low is like 1 of our biggest legacies, they done put out over 75 albums....ya'll aint remember tha Game Recognize Game dayz....Get Low dance is our shit....U come 2 our clubs and see... muthafucaz been gettin low since 91....and they will kill over this Get Low shit lol...believe that....
Memphis Bleek comin to MISSION ROCK CLUB IN SF this weekend I believe....I waz there just last week....sicc ass club....I wanna go and watch this fool yell out Get Low.....lmaooo.....ahhhh mannn
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^^^He's in L.A. tomorrow with Loon, 112 and the Young Gunz.
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ah shit....DATS IT....WE GETTIN HIM IN L.A!!!!!
lmao
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im not sayin that he doesnt have the right to fight over the name. im saying that he doesnt have the right to threaten someone over the name...thats fuckin stupid. like Young Assasin said...if JT was smart he would've copyrighted the name and then had bleek change it legally. instead he's doing this "i'm gonna kill you" bullshit. thats fuckin gay and nobody can really deny the fact that a smart move would've been to just copyright it.
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im not sayin that he doesnt have the right to fight over the name. im saying that he doesnt have the right to threaten someone over the name...thats fuckin stupid. like Young Assasin said...if JT was smart he would've copyrighted the name and then had bleek change it legally. instead he's doing this "i'm gonna kill you" bullshit. thats fuckin gay and nobody can really deny the fact that a smart move would've been to just copyright it.
Rod just said the "I'm gonna kill him" part as an exaggeration. JT is getting at Bleek on Wax and soon through the Legal System.
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im not sayin that he doesnt have the right to fight over the name. im saying that he doesnt have the right to threaten someone over the name...thats fuckin stupid. like Young Assasin said...if JT was smart he would've copyrighted the name and then had bleek change it legally. instead he's doing this "i'm gonna kill you" bullshit. thats fuckin gay and nobody can really deny the fact that a smart move would've been to just copyright it.
Rod just said the "I'm gonna kill him" part as an exaggeration. JT is getting at Bleek on Wax and soon through the Legal System.
thats how it should be handled. but nobody should make any assumptions on what i know about business based on the fact that JT's dumbass didnt copyright the shit.
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thats how it should be handled. but nobody should make any assumptions on what i know about business based on the fact that JT's dumbass didnt copyright the shit.
LMAO. Another thread blown outta proportion for no good reason. Refer to me when you're going to make a statement homie.
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thats how it should be handled. but nobody should make any assumptions on what i know about business based on the fact that JT's dumbass didnt copyright the shit.
LMAO. Another thread blown outta proportion for no good reason. Refer to me when you're going to make a statement homie.
no im just tired of getting my ass jumped on over shit...every thread about memphis bleek/jt turns into how much i know about business...it doesnt make sense to me.
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i dont know how it works over in the USA, but here it can go by a state-registered business name too. ie: you can have 3 companies with the same name, but its state-valid only.
variations on a name are usually ok too, ie: Get Low Records isnt the same as GetLow Records or Get-Low etc.. again, it could be diff in the US
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i dont know how it works over in the USA, but here it can go by a state-registered business name too. ie: you can have 3 companies with the same name, but its state-valid only.
variations on a name are usually ok too, ie: Get Low Records isnt the same as GetLow Records or Get-Low etc.. again, it could be diff in the US
Yeah thats what I was thinking, although Memphis Bleek isn't being loyal to the agreement that was made with JT, unless JT has that shit copyrighted then legally Bleek isn't doing anything wrong. Even if JT copyrighted just Get Low Records, legally Bleek is still allowed to call his clique Get Low. However, Bleek is being a dumb shit if hes gonna call his clique Get Low, piss off Tha Bay in general, and then have the cheek to go there to promote his album. You know theres gonna be some trouble there no doubt.
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JT does own the name & rights to Get Low Records. hes had the name register legally for over 10 years. i dunno what the actual term for whut bleek did is, but i know its illegal.
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does bleek actually call it "Get Low Records" or is his like "Get Low Entertainment" or what? cuz if its that difference they cant do shit legally...any variation and JT can't touch him as far as copyright shit goes.
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^^^^ yeah ok johnny cochran. why don't you speak on something else you don't know about?
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honestly nobody in the east unless they look for it deep which most dont wont even know any diffrence because 95% of the east dont even know who JT or his get low records are independent and strictly bay/west and some cds in the south But memphis bleek is in the ROC
there on BET MTV all radio stations the roc has platinum cds You think bleek cares what JT thinks hell No
JT might be ten years strong but bleek is 6 years and reconized all across the country and many parts of the world thats the reality the only way to have the respect for the other to bow down is if JT was famous worldwide and on MTV and had major label distribution EX-Universal interscope def jam ect
and dont sleep and think just cause bleek from the east JT and his click can ride on bleek cause bleek isnt no studio chump but yall wont know about that ya'll not from NY PA or NJ
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alotta times niggas come from the street,and to be quite honest don't know business,shit bleek and them been calling themselves get low,and they figured why not name they label after that,they ain't know of no jt,so they can't be mad at that initially,but since they had that meeting and worked shit out,and since jt had the name first,he should have changed the name up a lil,and fucc it they should even do a side project together get low west/get low east,thats more exposure and more money,shit jt could sellout shows and the east and bleek and them could sell out shows out west,both companys win fucc beef,especailly between brothas
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honestly nobody in the east unless they look for it deep which most dont wont even know any diffrence because 95% of the east dont even know who JT or his get low records are independent and strictly bay/west and some cds in the south But memphis bleek is in the ROC
there on BET MTV all radio stations the roc has platinum cds You think bleek cares what JT thinks hell No
JT might be ten years strong but bleek is 6 years and reconized all across the country and many parts of the world thats the reality the only way to have the respect for the other to bow down is if JT was famous worldwide and on MTV and had major label distribution EX-Universal interscope def jam ect
and dont sleep and think just cause bleek from the east JT and his click can ride on bleek cause bleek isnt no studio chump but yall wont know about that ya'll not from NY PA or NJ
LMAO @ this attitude. So, what you're saying is Bleek shouldn't be a man and keep his word because he's semi famous(not due to talent, but due to affiliation). That's bullshit. If Bleek was a man, he would've kept his word. But, it's obvious he's not. LMAO @ Bleek not being studio. Right.
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ok heres what im going to say...i dont wanna hear any shit on business or anything...im not talking about business im talking about morals here:
yes...bleek is a bitch for not respecting the fact that JT had the name first...he should change it
JT has it copyrighted therefore it is legally his.
the east coast fans that listen to bleek most likely have no damn clue who JT is or get low...so who gives a shit
bleeks get low is about as well known as marilyn mansons gender...again...who gives a shit
doing get low west/get low east is a damn good idea...does anybody actually disagree with any of those?
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the east coast fans that listen to bleek most likely have no damn clue who JT is or get low...so who gives a shit
bleeks get low is about as well known as marilyn mansons gender...again...who gives a shit
doing get low west/get low east is a damn good idea...does anybody actually disagree with any of those?
no matter how small it is, I wouldn't wanna be affiliated with Bleek's bitch ass.
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the east coast fans that listen to bleek most likely have no damn clue who JT is or get low...so who gives a shit
bleeks get low is about as well known as marilyn mansons gender...again...who gives a shit
doing get low west/get low east is a damn good idea...does anybody actually disagree with any of those?
no matter how small it is, I wouldn't wanna be affiliated with Bleek's bitch ass.
you pretty well just proved my point...95% of the people who listen to JT's get low are going to hate bleek in the first place and not give a shit about anything that he puts out. and 95% of the people who listen to memphis bleek regularly are going to either not like westcoast rap or not know who JT & get low is...therefore the only problem should really be the fact that bleek punked out and didnt change his shit.
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^^^^^ No that's not the problem you moron, the problem is people are going to assume bleek has affiliation with JT and Get Low, whereas really there is no affiliation at all. There is people out there who luv JT and Get Low records, and they see shit that bleek is doin under the same name get low. they think shit, I gotta check this out cause I luv get low shit. then they check it out, and they think its wack. then they start thinkin jt's get low is gettin wack. That is just one small misunderstanding that can arise out of this situation. Again, Luke I'm goin to tell you - don't speak on issues they you know nothing about.
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read my previous statement...it proved you wrong.
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you didn't prove anything, you pulled a bunch of shit outta your ass. Where the hell did you get those figures? Same place your head is? You can't just go and take someone elses name of their business. It's that simple. Doesn't matter how big or how small. You don't know anything about that 95% number you pulled out your ass. Get Low Records has sold millions of records. There is a lot of stupid people in the world, especially america. there are going to be people confused over the name. Guaranteed their will be people who will think bleek is affiliated with JT's Get Low Records. If just 1 person believes that, then that is Bleek benefitting from the name which he stole from JT, and JT is not benefitting from it.
What if tommorrow some huge horrible scandle came out all over. Say all over in the Media "Bleek of Get Low arrested for rape and murder!"
Look what that could do to JT and Get Low Records.
Man I could make numerous examples of why Bleek cannot just take that name. Either you get it or your fuckin retarded.
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i get that but JT can benefit from it too. you say bleek benefits over it but you're not thinking the other way either...most of the people who listen to JT are westcoast heads...if bleek releases something seriously dope (like M.A.D.E. which i know a lot wont agree but a lot will too) then he could concievably bring a whole new audience to JT's get low...if the east coast heads see memph is on get low and then hear some shit about JT's get low...they very well could check out JT's get low and get hooked on that. i do understand what your saying and it makes total sense and i agree...the only thing i dont agree with is that there are going to be a lot of people who cross the two. you are right 1 person makes bleek benefit but im not arguing that bleek should change his name...fact is JT had it first so bleek should change it and not be a faggot about it.
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dude, dumbass, its not about whether or not JT can benefit from it. He came up with the name first, its his decision whether he wants bleek to use it or not. JT doesn't want bleek to use it, he obviously does not want bleek to have any affiliation with him at all.
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dude...you gotta get it through your head...im not debating about that...MEMPH SHOULD CHANGE HIS SHIT. HE IS BEING A BITCH ABOUT IT.
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I agree with both of U....
but BOTTOM LINE....it's about having Priciples & Respect....fuc tha legal drama....dat aint shit....U didn't kno there's another Get Low? COO....I find that very hard 2 believe because of various reasons....but let's say he didn't kno about it....it's all good....muthafucaz approach U and "inform" U there's a legacy behind that name on tha other coast, don't use it....If he had respect 4 those people on da other coast....he would've changed it rite away....but I ain't seeing much respect after his new cd that came out....JT doesn't either....wat happens when people don't respect each other? CHECK YOUR 9th GRADE HISTORY BOOKS MUTHAFUCAZ!
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Ok to SGV's comment
Yeah bleek should be a man about it
but the truth is Bleek wont besides bleek is
the same man dissing his own label mates
BUT who are you to say bleeks studio?
in your mind any MC you dont like from the east
is a fake bleek has history here out east
just like JT does so dont speak on shit you know nothing
about and thats real talk right there
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I agree with both of U....
but BOTTOM LINE....it's about having Priciples & Respect....fuc tha legal drama....dat aint shit....U didn't kno there's another Get Low? COO....I find that very hard 2 believe because of various reasons....but let's say he didn't kno about it....it's all good....muthafucaz approach U and "inform" U there's a legacy behind that name on tha other coast, don't use it....If he had respect 4 those people on da other coast....he would've changed it rite away....but I ain't seeing much respect after his new cd that came out....JT doesn't either....wat happens when people don't respect each other? CHECK YOUR 9th GRADE HISTORY BOOKS MUTHAFUCAZ!
i agree with that entirely...i also agree with it being very very unlikely that memph didnt know about get low...the dude is in the music biz...if your a fan of music thats a different story but im sure memph knew. and he definetely should've respected JT and get low...thats fucked up.
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^ofcourse Bleek knew....shiit, i mean JT goes 2 tha award shows, I heard him personally say shit like...oh yea ima go 2 Source Awards this weekend etc....and he also attends most of da hip hop summits, he just isn't featured on TV or magazines so cats assume he aint nobody....he has pics with JayZ, Russel Simmons, Beanie Sigel and all them cats in his book....lmao, he even has this 1 pic where it's a bunch of people like jayz, dmx, busta rhymes etc and JT's tall ass is standin on da side wearing a fat ass GET LOW jacket......CMON BLEEK! dood gotta get his mind correct....