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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: ironmike on January 23, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
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CHART DATE: 01/18/2010
LAST UPDATE: 01/19/2010 14:54:20
NOW IN: FINAL
13 19 YOUNG MONEY CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 20,522 -17%
WE ARE YOUNG MONEY
15 25 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 15,165 -38%
RELAPSE
22 27 JAY-Z ROC NATION/ATLANTIC 14,688 -23%
BLUEPRINT 3
39 38 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 11,439 +1%
STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS
46 42 SNOOP DOGG PRIORITY/EMI 10,683 +8%
MALICE 'N WONDERLAND
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Snoop is the 'King'. 10,000 units in a week speaks words beyond belief. He keeps this up, and not only will he be the King of the West, but the king of Hip Hop, and the highest selling Hip Hop artist of all time
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str8 westcoast!!!!!
lol
Snoop is the 'King'. 10,000 units in a week speaks words beyond belief. He keeps this up, and not only will he be the King of the West, but the king of Hip Hop, and the highest selling Hip Hop artist of all time
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its not bad considering that nobody ,who listen to that kind of music, buys cds these days
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This is what he needs to do. Keep working the record slowly, and it will eventually get to the sales he's used to. It happened with No Limit Top Dogg, although it had way stronger 1st week sales...
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This is what he needs to do. Keep working the record slowly, and it will eventually get to the sales he's used to. It happened with No Limit Top Dogg, although it had way stronger 1st week sales...
its not only snoops sales that look like a joke, damn the rest look kind off messed up also. Omarion first week sales 19000 :laugh:
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i cant believe how much gucci mane is still sellling! it shows how many retards are in the world today!
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i cant believe how much gucci mane is still sellling! it shows how many retards are in the world today!
LMAO, well put ;D
+1
ur talkin about the new generation, homie - the future of the world
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The album was shit and had no big single so its not like I wasn't expecting these sales. Snoop aka one of the west coasts biggest rappers struggling to sell 300k is a bad look.
I wonder how much people with a lot of buzz like Drake and Nicki Minaj will sell when Gucci flopped (saying that gucci didnt make too bait chart songs even though spotlight was soft).
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the single is big as hell - "I Wanna Rock" is the next "A Milli"-beat
i'd say dat one of the reasons it didn't sell, is because of the fact dat it is a physical CD released in 2009.
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the single is big as hell - "I Wanna Rock" is the next "A Milli"-beat
i'd say dat one of the reasons it didn't sell, is because of the fact dat it is a physical CD released in 2009.
why are jay, drake, 50, jada etc selling more than snoop? Snoops albums sellin shit cause it was shit
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50 Cent doesn't sell records anymore - and Drake hasn't released an album yet (so u can't b in a position to say if he sells or not ::)
like i said, one of the reasons Snoopy shit wasn't sellin - is NOT because of the lack of a hittin single-presence. "I Wanna Rock" is the biggest hiphop-single in a long time, so ur incorrect. Yeah, it was "the shit".
one of the BIGGEST reasons (i believe), dat it's not sellin is because it was released in 2009, and plastic records aren't really sellin nowadays - NOT even Gucci Mane, one of the current poster-childs in Hip Hop, wit one of the biggest fan-followings right now (teenagers) - sold dat many records..
i really think ppl should lighten up on their judgments of an artist after seein some low first-week sales and instead try to understand the aspects of the music-industry in it's whole - most of these artists AREN't sellin any records NOT because of the lack of quality or beacuse dat they fell of - rather due to the current situation in the record-business --- PEOPLE JUST AREN'T BUYIN FUCKIN CD'S, IT'S SO FUCKIN SIMPLE ;)
and if a record sucks or not, doesn't really mean shit.. wack albums are sellin just as much as dope albums. people aren't giving a fuck if an album sucks or not, if they are a fan - they are still buyin the abuum. i don't think there is ONE living person out there - dat is justfiiying their purchase of a cd, because of a fuckin XXL- or a fuckin 5-mic rating in a magazine.. magazines and critics were NEVER in a postion of power, concering records sellin or not. NEVER
if you are a fuckin fan, you are a fuckin fan - and he or she is ridin wit his or her favorite artist, regardless.
Example: "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told" one of the WORST hiphop-records of the 90's (Snoop's worst album, quality-wise) sold waaay better than "Malice In Wonderland" --- because it was released during a time when ppl actually still were buyin physical cd's
To say dat "Malice In Wonderland" doesn't sell because it is wack, IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT. And the album doesn't even suck (at least not through a media-perspective - it got GREAT ratings everywhere) 8)
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Snoop,s album isnt selling for a couple of reasons Marketing being one of them. I do not know who takes care of Snoops career but they are doing a very bad job. Snoop may be the most loveable Rapper/artist in the world.. but musically he is a joke now, and I think this is why some places are giving his album good reviews, simply because of the relations he got with the magazine or website. Ghetto cheap ass videos, cheap promotion, wack ass album, all this is to blame.
I do not get why they are afraid to spend money on major & proper promotion . they rather have dahdah as video director to do cheap ass videos. instead of having a proper ad, they rather have Snoop doing Wake N Bake Shows.
Instead having someone like Dre. Quik or Even Soopafly to serve as the musical mind of the album, he rather put old songs together just because he is lazy.. Lyrically Snoop is also done, and he proved it with this album. Snoop Dogg used to be the trend setter but now he follows everything just to stay in the spotlight ... but this isnt working.. he might stay in the spot light but will be a joke just like Flava Flav is
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i dont believe for a second dat the media is in favour of him.. no way José - if anythin, Snoopy is one of the most bashed-on characters in hiphop musicaly, as far as bein picked on by media-personalities. the last few albums were all wack critically.. but they were all feelin this one - i don think Snoopy went up to Rolling Stone Magazine and offered the critics some weed in favour for a good rating. no, dat's not hapening.. i dont even think dat the media-world is corrupt like dat, and i dont believe in those crazy assumptions..
i dont agree on the marketing tools bein wrong, either. i saw it everywhere, and u did too.. c'mon...
the adds were there, the "talk" where there - the stupid "youtube"-breakdown clips were there (my favorite was the one wit the big media-darlings shoutin out Snoopy's new record like it was the next best thing ever)..
and 4 of the album-songs were also havin big fancy music-videos created for 'em ("Protocol"-video bein the best)
what i do agree on, is the non-exitent feel of a new "trendsetting" for his new album - but "trendsetting" is kinda irrelevant when it comes to recordsales (at least when u are already a relevant artist wit fans, dat isn't washed-up)
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Snoops album isn't selling because it's horrible.
Using the cd excuse is bs. U think Detox won't sell?
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Snoops album isn't selling because it's horrible.
Using the cd excuse is bs.
oh for christ sake, i cant believe this
read my previous posts again, please..
like i said:
"quality" isn't fuckin RELEVANT when it comes to music-sales.
and i will buy u a cheeseburger, if u can prove the opposite..
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Snoops album isn't selling because it's horrible.
Using the cd excuse is bs.
oh for christ sake, i cant believe this
read my previous posts again, please..
like i said:
"quality" isn't fuckin RELEVANT when it comes to music-sales.
and i will buy u a cheeseburger, if u can prove the opposite..
Actualy with first week sales with 64000 i actually think his sales are okay right now, He has the hottest single out right now i wanna rock. So he has good chances to stay on the charts. Digital the album has sold well also, in the top 100 on amazon.the only reason why his album sold 64000 copies first week was becouse none of his singles have peaked yet. The song radio rating are good asswell for his singles.
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the fact that it's still selling 10k a week isn't bad at all
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I think its more the fact that hip hop isnt selling unless you are a eminem/weezey/kanye. This aint 99/2000 where artists were going platinum and those now selling less than hundred thousand were selling five hundred thousand. There are still albums selling just look at susan boyle and taylor swift its just that hip hop isnt as popular in the mainstream as it previously was.
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one of the BIGGEST reasons (i believe), dat it's not sellin is because it was released in 2009, and plastic records aren't really sellin nowadays
Black Eyed Peas are at what? - 6/7 Million worldwide
Michael Jackson's Number 1's - 2 million US
Lady Gaga - platinum with the year before that 8 million worldwide
People still buy CD's, and artists can still achieve multi-platinum success, but the industry is weak. Using music as advertisements to other products rather than themselves as performers. Snoop is releasing a CD I would never have known about (being from the UK) if I wasn't on this forum, and on other forums. He's releasing a CD with a degraded reputation in recent years for putting out sloppy songs, and weak albums, confidence is lost in the likes of these people and the industry, but that's a very long topic to get into
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I Agree!!!
it would have been easy for Snoop to sell , everybody is expecting One thing from Snoop, an album entirely produced by Dr.Dre, other than that nobody gives a fuck about what The Doggfather has to offer because we heard it a million times, he proved that he could sell millions without Dre. now its time to be real and either give up the mic or step it up and give what the world is waiting on..
To me thats the only thing that could make Snoop sell properly again.. oh and also acting his age would help alot too
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Look at how many people on here didn't bother buying cause it was shit. Your telling me that if Snoops main fanbase thinks its a crappy southern imitation that sales wont be affected. ur retarded if so
If Jay can sell Platinum plus why can't Snoop. If Em can sell Plat plus why can't Snoop. Its not like Snoop wasn't a bigger star than Jay at one point. he just made crappy career decisions and had nothing on the album to sell it. Lol at saying his singles big. Empire state of Mind is a BIG hip hop record.
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the rap game now is WACK
Fallace in wonderland, relapse, blueprint 3?
jesus...there's maybe 3 good songs total on these 3 CDs......
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Look at how many people on here didn't bother buying cause it was shit. Your telling me that if Snoops main fanbase thinks its a crappy southern imitation that sales wont be affected. ur retarded if so
If Jay can sell Platinum plus why can't Snoop. If Em can sell Plat plus why can't Snoop. Its not like Snoop wasn't a bigger star than Jay at one point. he just made crappy career decisions and had nothing on the album to sell it. Lol at saying his singles big. Empire state of Mind is a BIG hip hop record.
Yeah I WANNA ROCK is not as big as Bitch Please, Sexual Seduction, or Drop it like its hot.... Snoop is not good at making good decision
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Failure in Crackland, Relapse Repackaged, and Bullshitprint 3, all sucked hard. I mean damn, lol People wonder why we don't buy albums lmao its not because of the internet its because we know its not worth the 13 bucks. If a nigga made 12 tracks proper, I'd give him my 12 dollars. He makes 2 tracks, and ads on Recycled wasted, I'm not paying 4 the album, I'll get the 2 of Itunes and the rest can rot. Its not worth it today to purchase a full album.
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Using music as advertisements to other products rather than themselves as performers
dat is very tru.
however, the cashcow examples u brought up are a little bit extreme - im surprised u left out Susan Boyle. bottomline is, the cd-buyin audience in general is gettin severly smaller for every day dat goes in the world. and artists can't really sell any cd's - even the worldwide-scale names, i.e. 50 cent (as documented by current soundscans)..
but u being from the UK, i can understand why u think there's still a big recordbuyin crowd out there.. UK is one of the few known countries out there were the people are still buyin physical cd's - dat's why u guys and Asia are gettin the special edition-treatment wit several cd's. recordlabels have always targeted UK, Asia and Australia. every country is individual ;)
and im sure u would've heard about the snoopy-record if it wasn't for dubcc - wit all the HMV's u got out there. no prob 8)
Your telling me that if Snoops main fanbase thinks its a crappy southern imitation that sales wont be affected. ur retarded if so
u clearly dont understand the mentality of a humanbein. are u an alien?
dat's xactly what im tellin u, einstein - a fan is a fan. u are buyin a fuckin record wit 2pac, snoop, raekwon whoever the fuck, cuz u like the nigga. not because of no fuckin magazine-rating or word-of-mouf bullshit - dat BS does't xist. u apprecaite the artist in full, bottomline.. and u are retarded if u think anythin else, clown..
i've yet to meet a person, who bought the latest Jay-Z record, and who DIDN'T ignore the fact dat it was wack. IT WAS FUCKIN JAY-Z, and we ALL wanna know what kinda shit he on, even if Rihanna is on the album.. we all buy every album of his.. every time. NOBODY IS EVER IGNORIN HIS RELEASES, CUZ IT'S JAY-Z - GET IT?
and 2pac fans are still buyin 2pac-shit, even if the posthumous-releases are produced by Eminem (yall niggas got dat shit, dont lie - u all bought it to complete the collection)
CRAPPY MUSIC, DOESN'T AFFECT RECORDSALES. it's wellproven - just turn on MTV, Sherlock - and see for urself. one of the few thing dat affects the outcome of a record doin #'s, is whether the lead-single makes an impact - and dat single may as well be a cover-up for a wack-album..
proof of this (dat the fans are buyin Snoopy's shit even if it is "crap") is the soundscan #'s for Snoopy's WORST album - "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told". NOBODY liked it. the media, the fans, nobody. but we were still buyin it - cuz we got fooled by a decent single, and becuz of the fact dat it was our artist - Snoop fuckin Dogg..
if Snoops main fanbase
Snoopy's loyalfanbase doesn't reside on this forum anyway - only caucasian 2pac and Death Row-afficionados from Europe wit weird names - so i wouldn't say that alotta the oppinions on here are relevant, when u are ranking the apprecation of Snoop's last album
Lol at saying his singles big
LMAO
where are u from? pakistan, india? i dont kno where u reside, but a bigger percentage of our world appreciates the fuck out of his new single - "I Wanna Rock". i dont have to prove u shit.. when 30 of the biggest rappers in the world all are rappin over ur next single's instrumental for mixtapes (like it was Biggie Small's the "Who Shot Ya" beat), u can tell dat it's got an impact.. lol
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the best example is Jay Z... look at his career...
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it flopped because it was the worst album of his career.Even worse then his first no limit again.
And please dont compare this album to no limit top dogg.That was a good album.
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cd's still do sell, as long as they are good...at a time where everyone was complaining about record sales...Lil Wayne sold a million in a week.
Black Eyed Peas sold big last year...I know thats pop but I would put Snoop in the same category as them with his last 2 albums.
Alicia Keys doing her thing and Blueprint, as much as I dont like it , sold as well.
Malice in Wonderland is simply a bad album. Blue Carpet Treament was banging, but after Ego Trippin i promised not to buy another Snoop album. And with this release I was justified. I guess we tired of hearing the same old garbage over and over...also with 50 cent.
I still buy albums. As long as they are half decent, and good quality, im buying an album a week.
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it flopped because it was the worst album of his career.Even worse then his first no limit
i know dat everyone'e entitled to their own opinions, but seriously man - clean out ur earwax, u cant b serious
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cd's still do sell, as long as they are good...at a time where everyone was complaining about record sales...Lil Wayne sold a million in a week.
cd's aren't sellin. the wayne-example u dropped, came out almost 2 years ago - and ALOT is happenin in an industry during two years (specially if it's dyin). and artists like Alicia Keys, Black eyed peas doesn't count - because their fanbase are an extremely big entity. u cant namedrop stuff like Eric Clapton, Elvis Presley whatever etcetera, because dat shit DONT COUNT - their fanbase are still alive, and their fanbase aren't familiar wit the e-world, because they are TOO OLD.. dat's why they're buyin cd's-- simple
why didn't gucci mane sell? he's the hottest thing out there, biggest fanbase (teenagers), buzz/ everything.. the physical cd is dead, and will b exterminated in 2 years (just like what happened to the cd-single back in 06) - TRUST ME
u are buyin a cd every week? the record indutry is goin to need a millon ppl like u, to surive for even 3 years..
the only ppl dat are buyin cd's are old people, teenage-girls and british, scandinavan, austrlian/japanase-ppl. the compact disc might live on in specific areas in the world, but it surely is vanishing in many places..
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It didn't sell because it was wack
Then how come CL2, Slaughterhouse & survival skills didn't sell ::)
Albums still sell
Ofcourse some artist sell, but they apeal to a different demograph, people who buy albums.
Susan Boyle's main demograph is older people aren't brilliant with computers and already have a large cd colelction so they decide to just keep buying them, Then you have Black Eyed Peas & Lady Gaga, the biggest part of their demograph being little girls who spend all of their moeny on cd's, some may know how to download but they like the songs so much but decide to buy.
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did you just say that Alicia Keys and Black Eyed Peas dont count cos they have a huge fanbase? are you listening to what you saying...
That implies that Snoop doesnt have a huge fanbase...well theres your answer right there. Y do you think he doesnt have a huge fanbase?? cos he has released flop after flop. We all already knew Malice in Wonderland is going to be Ego Trippin 2 before we even heard Gangsta Luv...
Ok then let me drop another name...Maxwell. He does not have a huge fanbase, but his last album sold even though there were like 10 tracks on it. Just because it was high quality...and before you go on how he is not gangsta, i know i know...but i listen to a wide variety of music.
Drake sold the hell outta an EP...7 tracks, 6 of which were quality. Y did ppl spend there cash on hardcopies for these albums even though there were so few songs?? because its something new, fresh, and worth your money.
Gucci didnt sell because he really was flavour of the month in the USA...unheard of in most places else. Gucci is unknown in Europe,Africa etc etc...
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did you just say that Alicia Keys and Black Eyed Peas dont count cos they have a huge fanbase? are you listening to what you saying...
That implies that Snoop doesnt have a huge fanbase...well theres your answer right there. Y do you think he doesnt have a huge fanbase?? cos he has released flop after flop. We all already knew Malice in Wonderland is going to be Ego Trippin 2 before we even heard Gangsta Luv...
Ok then let me drop another name...Maxwell. He does not have a huge fanbase, but his last album sold even though there were like 10 tracks on it. Just because it was high quality...and before you go on how he is not gangsta, i know i know...but i listen to a wide variety of music.
Drake sold the hell outta an EP...7 tracks, 6 of which were quality. Y did ppl spend there cash on hardcopies for these albums even though there were so few songs?? because its something new, fresh, and worth your money.
Gucci didnt sell because he really was flavour of the month in the USA...unheard of in most places else. Gucci is unknown in Europe,Africa etc etc...
Then explain to me why soulja boy went platinum
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cuz he made some of the wackest muzik ever and the industry wants that
he le the industry fuck him backwards and he was lovin it....lol
did you just say that Alicia Keys and Black Eyed Peas dont count cos they have a huge fanbase? are you listening to what you saying...
That implies that Snoop doesnt have a huge fanbase...well theres your answer right there. Y do you think he doesnt have a huge fanbase?? cos he has released flop after flop. We all already knew Malice in Wonderland is going to be Ego Trippin 2 before we even heard Gangsta Luv...
Ok then let me drop another name...Maxwell. He does not have a huge fanbase, but his last album sold even though there were like 10 tracks on it. Just because it was high quality...and before you go on how he is not gangsta, i know i know...but i listen to a wide variety of music.
Drake sold the hell outta an EP...7 tracks, 6 of which were quality. Y did ppl spend there cash on hardcopies for these albums even though there were so few songs?? because its something new, fresh, and worth your money.
Gucci didnt sell because he really was flavour of the month in the USA...unheard of in most places else. Gucci is unknown in Europe,Africa etc etc...
Then explain to me why soulja boy went platinum
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RedMagic213
LOL at u
what are YOU implyin? dat we should have to be ranking artists fanbases wit triple-a-game names like elvis Presly, Eric clapton, black eyed peas etcetera when we are talkin bout sales? the fuck outta here..
so an artist must b as siginifcant in fanbase-#'s as those names, to sell records? is dat how it's posed to b like..
apparently, it is. and dat's why ppl aren't sellin records -- like i already said..
SOME names are still sellin records, but generally many aren't - snoop's got a fanbase, but it can't b compared to other names like i mentioned ealier, therefore they're not relevant..
OF COURSE, BEP sells records (allowances from teenage-girls)
OF COURSE, alicia keys sells records (30+ females - one of the bigger percentages in cd-consumption, hands down)
both of theses acts' got bigger fanbases than friggin country-populations lol - and dat's why we logicaly can't bring em up when we're talkin recordsales. what r we headed for next? are u gon ask me why is Eric Clapton or Elvis Presly sellin more than Snoop? ffs :P
Maxwell. He does not have a huge fanbase
what the fuck are u talkn about? the gas in maxwell's career has been runnin on one single thing, for the last years in his career - fanbase. and dat is 30+ females dat would regardlessly ride wit their artist through thick n thin - album after album.
Maxwell's aways been, just like D'angeo and Eric Benét, irrelevant names as far as through a media-perspective - but they've always survived because of their loyal followers..
if ur tryin to imply dat records do sell by bringin in a name like Maxwell, which in ur brain might be a smaller artist, u fail horrendosuly.. Maxewll latest touched the 300tho-scan mark becasue of it's loyal fuckin fanbase - it had nothin to do wit any "originality" or whatever. the critics didn't even eyeball it extra for a second, lol
artists are generaly speaking, not sellin compact-discs anymore, simple as dat - it's a dyin artform - and the survivors in this industry are hierarchy-artists
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Gucci didnt sell because he really was flavour of the month in the USA...unheard of in most places else. Gucci is unknown in Europe,Africa etc etc...
so u are tellin me, dat an artists relevancy overseas is important when rankin the succcess of his album-sales in AMERICA.. god, r u stupid - no offense :-\
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Firstly...i never compared Snoop to Elvis etc...read my post again. I compared him to Alicia Keys, Black Eyed Peas and Jay Z...all off which released an album last year. Black Eyed Peas and Jay Z have been around as long as Snoop. And you need to check your demographics on Alicia Keys before you throw out your own stats.
If Snoop doesnt sell but Jayz, Black Eyed Peas and Alicia do...that just means Snoops album lacked whatever they had...thats a good product. Hate to burst your bubble, but Gangsta Luv is directed at the teenage girl market you mentioned above. And so was Sexual Eruption, so comparing current Snoop to Black Eyed Peas is valid. I am not a Black Eyed Peas fan at all !! I dont have their album. But what they did do is come out with something fresh which kept the market interested.
As for Maxwell...his last album got 6 Grammy nominations, including one for Song of the Year, as well as debuting at #1 on Billboard in 2009. Is that your definition of irrelevant?? Wow, i bet Snoop wished he was irrelevant too...
I never spoke about USA sales...im not from the US...and until you realise that the world is larger than USA then things wont change. Artists have already realised that. eg Kanye, that track he did Stronger sampled an old Daft Punk track specifically to hook the European market. That track was big in Europe 15 years ago, and they were already doing the autotune thing then. If you have noticed, all artists are now jumping at the chance of a European tour. Crooked I is in Amsterdam right now. The world id bigger than US... Also have you noticed more hip hop artists having European rockers on hooks??? if you cant think of any, then ill be glad to name you a list...
Gucci sux, thats y his album didnt sell...a good product will always sell...simple
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the fact dat u aren't from the states destroys every previous post u ever made in this thread. sorry, but it's extremely funny to me - how can u speak on the business in the states, if u reside in.. i dont know.. finland? what do u know, Sherlock? every single post u made earlier just became irrelevant - and i thought we had a good debating goin there for a second.
it's like this, see..
the record-indsutry (like i said in a previous post) might live on in specific sections in the world, for a limited time - i.e. Asia, UK, Australia.. record-labels have always targeted these venues of cd-consuming, because of the fact dat the e-world bomb didn't hit the ppl over there yet
i dont know, but dat's the impression i have..
regardless, ppl are obviously still buyin records over threre - it's wellproven. recordlabels are targetin these countries (proof of dat is exclusive-releases and enhanced specialedition-releases). and artists are goin over to Tokyo to do shows, and signs exclusive cd's etcetera etcera.
now if u are from one of these world-sections, i would say i could understand ur previous buhlooney-rants about the recordinusry bein alive and stable like nothin ever happened during these last 5 fuckin years..
but see, in America, the heart of the recordbusiness - ppl just aren't (generally speakin) buyin compact-discs anymore.. now shut up about it lol. i dont have to throw up documented american soundscan-# facts to a guy living in Greece, now do i? wtf, lol
and the Maxwell-album didnt sell because of no fuckin grammy-prices or whatever, lol!
it touched the 300tho-mark BEFORE the fuckin grammy's went off, for christ sake.. so yes, the album SOLD because of it's fanbase, not becasue of any nomination/critic bullshit. fuck outta here
Maxwel became relevant in media, AFTER the fuckin thing touched the remarkable scan-digits
I never spoke about USA sales...
the topic in this forum has predominantly been about the situaton of the sales in the mecca of it all - the states. i think u'd notice dat, lol. why'd u speak on grammys, soundscan-numbers n things of dat nature, if not..? :P
i do like the last quote u did tho.
"a good product will always sell"
very very tru, young padawan. dat is very, very tru..
however, if the format is dead, the product dies too.
LP's died in the beginning of the 80's - even thou GOOD PRODUCTS like Beatles i.e. were released on those formats..
u kno why the LP died, btw? beacuse of the birth of a new platform for music - "The Compact Disc". a platform dat now, nearly 30 years later are followin the same footsteps because of the birth of yet another platform for music - dat is called "the mp3-file"
NOW, whether the recordlabels will find ways to capoalize off of this new platform thoroughly - only time will tell.
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and trust me - i am familiar with the current impact dat European-music (specificaly eurodance from the 90's) had on american hiphop-music for the last 1˝years. we can all thank Flo-Rida for dat..
but dat type of trendsetting was actually a label-decision. it wasn't a coincidence - see, the recordlabels are adapting their cashcows wit the environment of what they, in many ways, are aiming for - Europe.
dat is one of the reasons why u can hear Juvenile sample the rockgroup Roxette, or Chamillionaire sample the rockgroup Europe
of course, they are tourin over there. lol
in some of these countries, the fans are stackin up cd's in their bookshelfs like it was Nineteen fuckin Ninetyfive. like nothin ever happend. look at Norway, Denmark
Europe, is one of the biggest lifelines for many many american recordlabels. and dat's no bullshit..
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im done with this dude. Im not from Finland or Greece...but even if i were...so what !!! Didnt even read after the racism.
Its Americans like you that give the USA a bad name, thinking that the world revolves around you. I have friends from NY and LA that aint like you at all. They are the most modest people I know, interested in other ppls cultures. But you seem to be the typical George Bush American that make the rest of us think you arrogant.
Anyway i have no time to read racist post.
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and since I am only a lower class non-American, and these seem to be US only related topics according to your comments, i will ensure that I would not comment in future...
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ur "done" wt me?
obviously u aint got anythin to say, dat's why ur leavin.. nothin else
ur takin shit way out of context, by bringin in low-iq-comments like dat. u even made me mad there for a second.. :-[
how am i attackin Europe, u dumb muddafucca? i'm speakin facts, u fuckin idiot..
ur associatin the factual words dat i'm bringin up on Europe, wit negativity, and dat's why ur gettin mad. i've debated wit a few fools on this forum since i signed up a few months ago, but u must b the dumbest muddafucca alive.
on the real
rasism where? LMAO
how can ANYBODY b a fuckin "rascist" to a whole side of a planet? if dat would've been the case, i would b fuckin Hitler - which i'm obviosuly not, cuz I'm part swedish originally
i was just sayin dat it is not a good look for a guy overseas to speak on relevancy in recordsales in the states - am i fuckin "racist" for dat..?
ur an idiot - ur the type of dude dat spills and cries out irrelevant blahzay-blahzay (racist this, racist that), when u can't move on any further wit ur oppinions in a debate - because of the fact, dat ur tyin to save face wit ur loss.
U ARE A FUCKIN RACIST, and it's europeans like u dat are givin Europe a bad name, by bein a hatin and jealous-ass individual
fuck u, u dumb muddafucca and the pussy u came out of
I'm done wit u. ur finished
u got destroyed, after just 43 posts on this forum
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me sorry but me no understand. me not so good with words. me no from america...me no even European. me from africa...me in jungle now. me king tarzan say me stop. me so sorry.
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me sorry but me no understand. me not so good with words. me no from america...me no even European. me from africa...me in jungle now. me king tarzan say me stop. me so sorry.
LOL
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and trust me - i am familiar with the current impact dat European-music (specificaly eurodance from the 90's) had on american hiphop-music for the last 1˝years. we can all thank Flo-Rida for dat..
but dat type of trendsetting was actually a label-decision. it wasn't a coincidence - see, the recordlabels are adapting their cashcows wit the environment of what they, in many ways, are aiming for - Europe.
dat is one of the reasons why u can hear Juvenile sample the rockgroup Roxette, or Chamillionaire sample the rockgroup Europe
of course, they are tourin over there. lol
in some of these countries, the fans are stackin up cd's in their bookshelfs like it was Nineteen fuckin Ninetyfive. like nothin ever happend. look at Norway, Denmark
Europe, is one of the biggest lifelines for many many american recordlabels. and dat's no bullshit..
Euro's don't buy cd's, wtf are yout alkign about?
Barely even cd stores here in holland
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and im sure u would've heard about the snoopy-record if it wasn't for dubcc - wit all the HMV's u got out there. no prob 8)
I wish I could say yes, but seriously there's been nothing in the newspapers, nothing on TV, or anything like that. In a 30 miles radius I think there's like 2 HMV's in total. I guess it could be my lack of interest in in specific Hip Hop magazines, or the fact I don't watch the music video channels anymore, but as "under-a-rock" I may seem like to some, I still watch TV, and read the newspaper, and despite seeing store ad's showing prices of albums in newspapers, and TV ad's for the likes of:
Alicia Keys
Black Eyed Peas
Jay Z
Eminem
even Hip Hop wannabes like Tinchy Stryder, and N-Dubz. Granted, some mentioned are huge names, but I've seen smaller names from sources mentioned, and very surprised why Snoop, who has a good following in the UK - as seen by his more recent appearances here hasn't put much effort into pushing it here. Maybe it's our lack of not buying the right materials that it's being advertised in. Anyones guess is as good as any
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how can ANYBODY b a fuckin "rascist" to a whole side of a planet? if dat would've been the case, i would b fuckin Hitler - which i'm obviosuly not, cuz I'm part swedish originally
post of the week atleast :laugh:
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post of the week for sure...
he is part swedish part asshole
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Another 9k this week according to Hits Double Daily lol maybe Snoop will reach 200k finally
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the re-release will probably help his sale figures. the die hard fans would buy th re-release even though they have the first one.
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post of the week for sure...
he is part swedish part asshole
i may be an asshole - but ur an idiot. and i rather b an asshole, anytime than an idiot.. 8)
you dumb muddafucca you
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so you admit u an asshole...Damn thats some funny shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Asshole, nice to meet u
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Personally i think "da game is to be sold not told" was alot better than "MIW".
People forget that half the album was produced by meech wells an snoop sounded good on the album, some of teh no limit songs were good also..
Not sure about Euroupe but in OZ land i only know a hand full of ppl that actually by cds. The new generation only buy mostly local hip hop cos American hip hop turned to absolute shit. And unfortunately teh youngsters dont know who the fuck Crooked i or Raskass or heirogliphics or chino xl(ETC) is so all the yknow is lil wayne , 50 cent or old stuff like n.w.a and Tupac.
If Snoops "more mallice" had all new songs an remixes an not 5 songs's that i already have i prolly would buy it. i like this song;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3logOjUNoA Dunno wtf its called though?
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so you admit u an asshole...Damn thats some funny shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Asshole, nice to meet u
;D
yeah, u dumb muddfucca - im an asshole. im inpolite, evil and just mean. ur not gettin anythin r u - what's wrong wit u? ???
dumb african muddafucca, gimme ur adress, n i'll send u an encyclopedia wit english dictionary, u dumb fuckin idiot. ::)
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ok, obviously this thread has run its course, as its been de-railed now. mods feel free to close this thread.
this thread is last week's sales. there's a new thread for this week's sales now:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=242713.0
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yeah...thread is done...
By Asshole...
"dumb african mudda fucca" ????? and you say u not racist...
anyways...every one say bye to Asshole
BYE ASSHOLE
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i smell pussy in this thread
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;D
HAHAHAHAHA
im blacker than u are, u dumb fuckin african.
and let's say, hypotheticaly, cockscker - if i was white, I could've still called u a "dumb african" - because u are a dumb AND u live in Africa.. u dumb muddafucca, nothn racist wit dat. if u would've lived in France, and u were dumb - i coudl've called u "a dumb frenchman" what's the difference, u dumb muddafucca!! KILL URSELF!!
HAHAHAH
paranoid dumb fuckin african LMAO
U ARE SO FUCKIN DUMB - I CANT BELIEVE IT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT :laugh:
;D
niggas too emotional
8)
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ok Asshole...
everyone wave to Asshole
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:laugh:
stop embarassing ur country, and go kill urself
:-*
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ok Asshole...
everyone wave to Asshole
Stop acting like you're not one.
YOu're probally a bigger asshole then fabtoxicp, atleast he admits it.
Nearly every fucking person in the world is an asshole
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YOu're probally a bigger asshole then fabtoxicp, atleast he admits it.
Nearly every fucking person in the world is an asshole
some of the best shit i've read in a long time, on this forum
8)
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thread locked.
please stop the stupid flaming, makes everyone involved look stupid.