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Title: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 05, 2021, 04:00:58 AM
I lost all my Source issues in move (except the Dre cover one you see in my signature) to Cali back in late 02'.  So I go back and order old back issues every now and then... I picked up the Biggie cover he had in 97' right before he died.  Not cause I'm a fan of Big but because I found a back issue for less than $10 I cop it...  Some interesting notes from the issue.

- They got Big cartoon of Biggie laying in a coffin at the end of the issue (not knowing Big would be murdered less than a month later).  And kind of surreal reading a feature article on Biggie about how he was the fuccin man at the time—without anybody realizing during the publication of that magazine that Big would be dead by the time the issue hit the shelves.   Crazy trip through time.

-  They diss the shit out of Suga Free in his album review.  They give props to Quik for his production but accuse Suga Free of using tired, worn out themes of Pimpin without offering anything new.  I think they fail to realize that that is not Suga Frees fault that so many rap artists is bitin' and took up that persona—but then you got one of the geniune pimps in the game Suga Free and you accuse him of followin' the trend?  He is the trend muthafuckaz!!!!  I'm too lazy right now but maybe later I'll do a screen shot.

-  Had a Master P, No Limit feature before they blew up.  All I really knew of them at that time was "Heaven For A Gangsta" being a banger on Rhyme and Reason and their little 15 minutes in the documentary.  But anyway, it was cool to see a well done feature on No Limit before they blew.  Showed the Source always had their ears to the streets and the underground. 

Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Okka on February 05, 2021, 05:44:13 AM
Damn, The Source used to be one of my favorite magazines, but fuck 'em for dissing that classic album. Could you take a picture of the review?
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 05, 2021, 10:36:21 AM
Damn, The Source used to be one of my favorite magazines, but fuck 'em for dissing that classic album. Could you take a picture of the review?

Yeah sure homie I got you...just was being lazy but I’ll upload some photos later

...as for the Source it’s a great issue this was back when it was truly a Bible for headz, but the rating system for albums always had an East Coast bias because their offices are located in New York
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Okka on February 06, 2021, 03:33:28 AM
Yeah sure homie I got you...just was being lazy but I’ll upload some photos later

...as for the Source it’s a great issue this was back when it was truly a Bible for headz, but the rating system for albums always had an East Coast bias because their offices are located in New York

It's still the greatest Hip Hop magazine. I wish I still had my old magazines. I'm not even sure what happened to them.
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 06, 2021, 05:26:17 AM
It's still the greatest Hip Hop magazine. I wish I still had my old magazines. I'm not even sure what happened to them.

It’s actually my fault, I was being a bit influenced by the more Arabized version of Islam in 02’ so when I was moving I had to fit everything in my car and threw out all the classic magazines (except for the Dre 96’ cover).   And then on top of that in 01’ someone broke in my apartment and stole all my cases (not realizing the cds were not inside) so I lost all my liner notes to classic album.  So one of them was my fault, one not my fault.

Still pieces me off because I miss all that old hiphop memorabilia
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on February 08, 2021, 01:07:24 PM
where’s the pics at? curious to see the review
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on February 09, 2021, 08:56:29 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/x5W3x43/6-E2-C56-D8-D993-42-A5-B295-0-D75-D3-DE888-C.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6tck0RC/309-F5364-E2-B9-486-B-AF17-C2-EFEFEAE6-B2.jpg)



embarrassing
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 09, 2021, 08:58:10 AM
how'd you do that shit?
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on February 09, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
how'd you do that shit?


you have to copy and paste the jpeg from the link by holding on to the pic and clicking copy

also, would help if you clicked resize image on the site before uploading it
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 09, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/kXYqtyy/957803-D6-52-A9-44-E4-A0-F2-4-D80-E55-DC032.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Master P and No Limit feature about 6 months before they blew up

(https://i.ibb.co/n1RWvJr/14-B20981-7429-4734-AC3-C-B264-F1-E4-C185.jpg) (https://ibb.co/94GML5n)

Last page of Source April 97’ issue featured Biggie in coffin... little did they know...
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 09, 2021, 09:53:47 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/bQNgZKs/78-A0-A7-E6-3-E40-4-C34-88-D7-94-CEEFDE9-E17.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BcTVxCy)

(https://i.ibb.co/cCZgcsH/4-D44-B314-B8-FB-471-E-8154-98-A0-B75667-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JyGBRS4)

Source trashes Suga Free debut album
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Okka on February 09, 2021, 12:15:10 PM
Fuck Miguel Burke. Thanks for postin' those pictures, Infinite.
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 09, 2021, 10:09:36 PM
Fuck Miguel Burke. Thanks for postin' those pictures, Infinite.

No doubt.. and just to put it in perspective, in the same issue they lauded Heavy D’s 97’ album and gave it 3 and a half mics.
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on February 09, 2021, 11:36:52 PM
No doubt.. and just to put it in perspective, in the same issue they lauded Heavy D’s 97’ album and gave it 3 and a half mics.


east coast dick gobblers
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: thegooddoc on February 18, 2021, 07:42:43 AM
No doubt.. and just to put it in perspective, in the same issue they lauded Heavy D’s 97’ album and gave it 3 and a half mics.

The album with the Dogg Pound feature?  Heavy D was cool if you were into pop, but 3 1/2 mics? lol
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 20, 2021, 07:08:44 AM
The album with the Dogg Pound feature?  Heavy D was cool if you were into pop, but 3 1/2 mics? lol

Heavy D has a song with Dogg Pound?
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on February 20, 2021, 07:36:49 AM
Heavy D has a song with Dogg Pound?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVWH6PFmr4
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: thegooddoc on February 20, 2021, 08:30:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOQaWxO5cjY
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TRAX (SFV) on February 24, 2021, 09:56:59 AM
He's looking for original lyrics from a pimp rapper? LOL Too Short's been basically saying the same shit his whole career.  It is what it is.

He may not be original in his lyrics, but his style and ability is SO original.  No one sounds like him.  This dude really is an idiot for not recognizing that.

Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 24, 2021, 07:45:46 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVWH6PFmr4

Dogg Pound should not have done this song.  Heavy D and Dogg Pound don't mix. 
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 24, 2021, 07:47:02 PM
He's looking for original lyrics from a pimp rapper? LOL Too Short's been basically saying the same shit his whole career.  It is what it is.

He may not be original in his lyrics, but his style and ability is SO original.  No one sounds like him.  This dude really is an idiot for not recognizing that.

word
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Duck Duck Doggy on March 04, 2021, 11:20:42 AM
props on this thread. The Source was a dope magazine just because there wasn't really any other magazine like that at the time until XXL became big, I remember I had a subscription to both. I think I remember reading that No Limit article.

The hate on Suga Free is in line with their off assessments of west coast work
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 09, 2021, 02:39:09 AM
props on this thread. The Source was a dope magazine just because there wasn't really any other magazine like that at the time until XXL became big, I remember I had a subscription to both. I think I remember reading that No Limit article.

The hate on Suga Free is in line with their off assessments of west coast work

word... nothing quite like going out to the mailbox and finding the new issue of the Source... XXL did have a nice run once the Benzino/Eminem fued took off they really started to overtake the Source.  The best XXL issue ever was the one with Dre, Eminem, and 50 on the cover around the time "In The Club" came out.  I remember Em and Dre were bragging that 50 Cent was going to sell double platinum.... even they didn't know how much that shit was actually going to blow up

In Benzino's defense he was in an interview saying that XXL basically took the Source blue print and a lot of their talent and ran with it.. he's right about some things... I disagree with his Em beef but if you get him in an interview speaking on other shit regarding hip-hop and Source magazine dude is actually pretty on point and he does deserve some credit.  You can't overlook every great thing the Source did for more than a decade just because of the Em beef
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on March 09, 2021, 09:17:38 AM
word... nothing quite like going out to the mailbox and finding the new issue of the Source... XXL did have a nice run once the Benzino/Eminem fued took off they really started to overtake the Source.  The best XXL issue ever was the one with Dre, Eminem, and 50 on the cover around the time "In The Club" came out.  I remember Em and Dre were bragging that 50 Cent was going to sell double platinum.... even they didn't know how much that shit was actually going to blow up

In Benzino's defense he was in an interview saying that XXL basically took the Source blue print and a lot of their talent and ran with it.. he's right about some things... I disagree with his Em beef but if you get him in an interview speaking on other shit regarding hip-hop and Source magazine dude is actually pretty on point and he does deserve some credit.  You can't overlook every great thing the Source did for more than a decade just because of the Em beef


fuck the source .. east coast dickgobblin magazine

once u realized the agenda behind their bullshit, u can’t enjoy it the same
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 09, 2021, 12:44:21 PM

fuck the source .. east coast dickgobblin magazine

once u realized the agenda behind their bullshit, u can’t enjoy it the same

Okay so they were more critical of the West and praised the East but the thing of it is they always covered the West.  So the West always had great features on there even lesser known artists the difference I see is that they would just be more critical of them, like say the music promoted a bad image for society or that it’s lesser quality or some shit like that but still at least you got the mag and youd find the artists there inside (one way or another)

And the journalists—these were mostly older heads from the late 80’s Public Enemy, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane era... and I respect dudes from that era (even though they have bias). Journalists are usually just a step older than the artists and about two steps older than the fans.  So we were like 18, the artists were like 27, and journalists 32 (like the Rakim era)
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: Sccit on March 10, 2021, 04:01:18 AM
Okay so they were more critical of the West and praised the East but the thing of it is they always covered the West.  So the West always had great features on there even lesser known artists the difference I see is that they would just be more critical of them, like say the music promoted a bad image for society or that it’s lesser quality or some shit like that but still at least you got the mag and youd find the artists there inside (one way or another)

And the journalists—these were mostly older heads from the late 80’s Public Enemy, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane era... and I respect dudes from that era (even though they have bias). Journalists are usually just a step older than the artists and about two steps older than the fans.  So we were like 18, the artists were like 27, and journalists 32 (like the Rakim era)


that doesn’t excuse the hate

murder dog came out and although it wasnt as huge, was a way doper magazine that showed the west proper due
Title: Re: Suga Free 2 mics in the Source for his 97' album, they diss the shit out of him
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 10, 2021, 03:40:39 PM

that doesn’t excuse the hate

murder dog came out and although it wasnt as huge, was a way doper magazine that showed the west proper due

man.. those were the fuccin dayz homie.  I forgot about Murder Dog.  You even had Blaze doin its thing for a time.  I need to pick me up an old Blaze back issue off ebay.