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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: .:N-Imy:. on November 27, 2001, 12:13:28 PM

Title: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: .:N-Imy:. on November 27, 2001, 12:13:28 PM
war in general....I mean I know there's that shit goin on in Afghanistan (if I spelt it right) but wot do ya'll think about war.....is it right to go to war with countries and kill evil as well as innoccent ppl at the same time? Is war the right way to go about certain things? etc....what ya'll thought on this....just to see wot ya'll think....(I'll post my views up l8r cos I'm tired and need sleep...it like 12:15am and I've got 2 get up for skool at 7am)...holla!
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Don Jacob on November 27, 2001, 12:15:21 PM
a famous malcome X quote+daz's debut solo album's title=my thoughts
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on November 27, 2001, 12:43:38 PM
just kill all those fools who's involved in that terriost act. its as simple as that.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 27, 2001, 02:56:03 PM
Theres a fine line between justice and payback. That Taliban and Al Queda deserve to be killed but its wrong how the rest of the country has to suffer for the sins of a few men. And I know thats something that has to happen in a war, its happened in every war fought, but it still doesn't make it right.

Like alot of people say, "You can't fight violence using violence" well you can't fight terrorism with terrorism but unfortunately in this life its something that must happen.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: TheShiznit227 on November 27, 2001, 03:21:16 PM
Innocent people die everyday...jus' in America...regardless of wars...
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: bLaDe on November 27, 2001, 03:45:53 PM
They say bombs are created to make peace ... but all i can see is voilence, innocent deaths, chaos ... and more voilence

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Doggystylin on November 27, 2001, 04:48:48 PM
LOl blade you really need to learn how to spell violence, lol, anyways, yeah why would war be good, of course it sucks horse cock
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: PinkTowelGirl on November 27, 2001, 04:50:45 PM
I believe americans should stay out of forign affars
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 27, 2001, 05:04:51 PM
If we don't get in world affairs the world would be more fucked up than it is now. No one else went and saved the ethnic Albanians when they were getting wiped out by Slobadan Milosevic or whatever his goofy ass name is. Nobody even threatens to keep Sadam in check except the US and if we and the UN were not a threat who knows what the hell he woulda done by now.

We need peacemaker and peacekeepers in these times.

And its funny how WWI was suppose to be the war to end all wars. That will never happen.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Joachim on November 28, 2001, 01:15:26 AM
War is a terrible thing and unless you see the affects of it first hand, you can never even begin to contemplate the impact it has. So for people who've only ever seen war or its affects on CNN to comment on how it is even sometimes needed is ignorant.

However 'One mans terrorist is another Mans freedom fighter'...

Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: infinite59 on November 28, 2001, 02:22:11 AM

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They say bombs are created to make peace ... but all i can see is voilence, innocent deaths, chaos ... and more voilence

 -{bLaDe}


I agree with this statement.  
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: infinite59 on November 28, 2001, 02:23:38 AM

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just kill all those fools who's involved in that terriost act. its as simple as that.


If you hit me, and I hit you back, that doesn't make me a terrorist.  That makes me an eye for an eye advocate.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Jay ay Beee on November 28, 2001, 05:51:15 AM

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No one else went and saved the ethnic Albanians when they were getting wiped out by Slobadan Milosevic



Wrong
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: PinkTowelGirl on November 28, 2001, 06:39:59 AM
Ecclesiastes 3  

Ecclesiastes 3.3 and 3.8

3.3  The time for killing and the time for healing,
      the time for tearing down and the time for  
      building

3.8   He sets the time for love and the time for hate,
      the time for war and the time for peace.

Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on November 28, 2001, 10:47:56 AM

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If you hit me, and I hit you back, that doesn't make me a terrorist.  That makes me an eye for an eye advocate.



;D
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: TheSheriff on November 28, 2001, 11:11:13 AM
And Infinite wins the case for Mr G.W. Bush and the Governmental Administration.

War sucks, but humans are competitive creatures, it has to happen. There will always be a war somewhere. Humans aren't perfect.

Sikotic, please don't exclude the U.K., the country who resisted Napoleon alone for 6 years, held the WWI Allies together, and were instrumental in the victory of WWII. ((Think about what would have happened if Operation Sealion had gone ahead and suceeded-1.5 million extra veteran German soldiers are transferred to the Eastern Front, most probably defeating the Soviet Union. Oh, look, fascists control all of Europe except Sweden and Switzerland.)) Also, Tony Blair, isn't he the main reason the current coalition exists? Weren't Britain the country which lost the most peacekeepers in the former Yugoslavia? Intervened in Sierra Leone, Cyprus, North Africa, and many more?

The U.S. and U.K. hold the world together; Without them, we'd all be slaves to some headcase like Bin Laden, forced against our will to be something we may not wish to be(Muslim), and persecuted or executed because of our beliefs(Jews, anybody from Texas).

War happens...And it will continue to happen until people like Bin Laden die off, which won't happen


But it's true, the U.S.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 29, 2001, 06:50:07 AM

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we'd all be slaves to some headcase like Bin Laden, forced against our will to be something we may not wish to be(Muslim)



Islam is not a forced religion. It does not force you to go out and convert people such as in Christianity.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: ToNe1904 on November 29, 2001, 07:17:46 AM

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I believe americans should stay out of forign affars


i agree sumwhat wit thiz. i mean, we need tah mind our own business on sum shit, until we actually got e'rything goin good in our own cuntry. not tah mention, we alwayz pushin our idealz on other cuntries...n if they dont run how our cuntry runz, we say that therez a prollem. maybe we could stick our nose in they business more without it being a prollem if the US wasnt so dishonest about tha reasons. i mean shit, we pretend that we have sum sorta righteous reasoning, when its usually only for our own good...money issuez...
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Joachim on November 29, 2001, 10:07:10 AM

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Islam is not a forced religion. It does not force you to go out and convert people such as in Christianity.


He means the Taliban force Islamic beliefs on thier people, unlike us they are not free to choose thier religion its chosen for them.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 29, 2001, 01:10:56 PM

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Wrong


True but we did most of the shit.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: infinite59 on November 29, 2001, 10:11:46 PM
Constantine spreaded Christianity through force.  He imposed Christianity to many races and people.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: TheSheriff on December 03, 2001, 02:04:36 AM
Didn't Constantine live 1500 years ago? Aren't the Taliban and Bin Laden in existence now? I don't pretend Constantine was right in what he did, but at least Christianity, in it's purest form, preaches equality over sexism, etc.

Did you, paedophilia is not a crime in Taliban controlled areas, because of the situation with women? Sickmade motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Social Issue 2: What's Ya'll Thoughts On.....
Post by: infinite59 on December 03, 2001, 04:35:14 AM
Equality over sexism?  Christianity has historically been  synonymous with classism.  Fuedalism and Christianity have in the past gone hand in hand.  (Lords and surfs)  
During the days of slavery in the United States, slaveowners were perpetually forcing Christianity on slaves.  In an effort to keep slaves 'turning the other cheek to oppresion.'  Throughout history, Christianity and equality have been on opposing teams.  In fact,  I'm not advocating Bin Laden.  But, the reason why he targeted the World Trade center, is in an effort to bring his historically 'oppressed' people to an 'equal' level with America's economically 'priveleged' people.