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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Jaydc555 on May 22, 2009, 05:48:16 PM
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Let's go cavs!
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Cavs in 6
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5
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cavs arent losing another game
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they better not blow this shit tonight.
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Wow!what a fucking shot!
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holy shit!
the cavs blow their lead, then lebron hits a 3 to win
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cavs celebrating like they just did a 3-peat haha
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Lets Go Cavs!!!!!! LeBron is the fucking MAN!!!!! :o :o
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
theyre gunna lose game 3 and probably game 4, as well.
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
you can say the same thing about the Magic no? :laugh:
Rashard misses that shot in game 1, it's 2-0 Cavs.
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
you can say the same thing about the Magic no? :laugh:
Rashard misses that shot in game 1, it's 2-0 Cavs.
Of course, he's just being a hater as always.
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The number 1 rule is to force somebody else to beat you .... let's see Ilgauskas , Delonte, Pavlovic were on the court , they can shoot the ball but their shot mechanic is slow , with 1 second left , what you have to do is used Lewis (wo was totally useless ) to double Lebron and force a pass to another player , Mo was cancelled as an inbounder so for me any shot contested by the three others players AND with 1 second left would have been a brick ...
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
you can say the same thing about the Magic no? :laugh:
Rashard misses that shot in game 1, it's 2-0 Cavs.
Of course, he's just being a hater as always.
Cavs should have won both games by a decent margin , I dont know why the fuck they're letting these leads going away ... thing is Magic had to capitalize and take profit of it ... they didnt
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
you can say the same thing about the Magic no? :laugh:
Rashard misses that shot in game 1, it's 2-0 Cavs.
Of course, he's just being a hater as always.
Cavs should have won both games by a decent margin , I dont know why the fuck they're letting these leads going away ... thing is Magic had to capitalize and take profit of it ... they didnt
its happening cuz the magic are just as good after the initial fleurys in both games by the Cavs once the magic settled down they couldnt be stopped. Everything looks easy for the Magic
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
you can say the same thing about the Magic no? :laugh:
Rashard misses that shot in game 1, it's 2-0 Cavs.
Of course, he's just being a hater as always.
how am i being a hater? im just speakin the truth...lol
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
theyre gunna lose game 3 and probably game 4, as well.
cavs are gonna lose game three and game 4? I'd say it will be a split.....
Yes, 1 shot away, whatever. This is hjow sports works. The GREAT ones hit shots like that, and LEBRON is indeed a GREAT one. Don't ever ever mention T-Mac or whoever with him again. And you know if Kobe hit that shot, it would have nothing to do with luck, right?
too damn predictable you are
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damn its gon be a good game tonight at orlando
lets see what force james brings
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James is averaging 42.0 points on 60 percent shooting in this series. His teammates are averaging 59.0 points on 41 percent shooting.
Furthermore, his team was only 7-24 in the second half, while he was 7-16. Mo WIilliams is shooting 33 percent@
If Mo Williams can pick his game up, the Cavs will win tonight, but that seems to be a big "if". And if they get another lead, they better protect it.
Orlando is sick with their three's, so they can comback at any time. Almost reminds me of the Suns from a few years ago who could pull off a huge run in a matter of what seemed like seconds.
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wow...1 shot away from being down 0-2. lebron and the cavs are really fuckin lucky right about now.
theyre gunna lose game 3 and probably game 4, as well.
cavs are gonna lose game three and game 4? I'd say it will be a split.....
Yes, 1 shot away, whatever. This is hjow sports works. The GREAT ones hit shots like that, and LEBRON is indeed a GREAT one. Don't ever ever mention T-Mac or whoever with him again. And you know if Kobe hit that shot, it would have nothing to do with luck, right?
too damn predictable you are
Kobe doesnt go 0-3 in the 4th quarter with 1 second left
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James is averaging 42.0 points on 60 percent shooting in this series. His teammates are averaging 59.0 points on 41 percent shooting.
If Mo Williams can pick his game up, the Cavs will win tonight, but that seems to be a big "if". And if they get another lead, they better protect it.
I thought LeBron makes his teammates better? LMAO
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stop reaching like that NIK you are makin yourself look silly :P :-X just take it like a man Kobe is number 2 now and its going to stay that way
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silly :P :-X
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silly :P :-X
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thats how I was describing you. HAHA I bet you get all silly with Rocyy at some laker raves Woooooooo
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^stop hitting on me
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^stop hitting on me
whatever post-count. Go play with your girlfriends fat meat-wallet and think of Kobe
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damn james gettin blocked like dat
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wow these refs are rediculous, how is that even a flagrant, he brang his arm around to get the shot off and catches him on the head with his elbow. Retarded shit.
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when did williams get cut up?
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It was the right call.flagrant 2 was wrong but 1 was correct
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Damn Courtney Lee got 2 facial dunks on Lebron. I think id be panicing like a mother fucker with James chasing me. But ye if they didnt keep saying Lee was a rookie i would never think it, he has the potential to be a real good player, look forward to seeing him get better in the future.
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it was accidental (if that happens in the nba)
It was the right call.flagrant 2 was wrong but 1 was correct
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it was accidental (if that happens in the nba)
It was the right call.flagrant 2 was wrong but 1 was correct
ya no way that was a flagrant 1 or 2
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damn magic been leadin for alotta the game
not lookin good for cavs
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tons of time left man
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yeah well not anymore
but thats why i say fuck tha nba rules
howard blocks (from behind) and they call it a foul and james shoots 3?
that clearly was a block, but acorrdin to the rules nah its a foul
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LOL. Howard didn't even touch LeBron and they call the foul. The refs don't even try to hide their bias anymore. :laugh:
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yeah well not anymore
but thats why i say fuck tha nba rules
howard blocks (from behind) and they call it a foul and james shoots 3?
that clearly was a block, but acorrdin to the rules nah its a foul
ya was a clean block, peitres got that block back for him at the end when he blocked james.
Orlando stays impressin me tho.
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its like how can players try and improve their craft and be better players when these dumb fuckin rules are "labeled as rules" hes blockin the opposite team, da fuck you want him to do?
and when he lets him shoot and doesnt block its his fault
LOL. Howard didn't even touch LeBron and they call the foul. The refs don't even try to hide their bias anymore. :laugh:
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^^^^ The 2 others fouls he get were BS aswell ( blocking foul on Pietrus and the "touch " foul on Hedo ).. he cannot make a FT though
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was expecting the cavs to win this after the last game
looks like we'll have lakers vs magic
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^^^^ The 2 others fouls he get were BS aswell ( blocking foul on Pietrus and the "touch " foul on Hedo ).. he cannot make a FT though
ye HOWARD Clutchness >>> Lebrons.. hah i kid but Howard stepped up huge and knocked down some super clutch freethrows for the magic
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nah its far from over but damn magic are a dope team
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thanx chuck
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was expecting the cavs to win this after the last game
looks like we'll have lakers vs magic
Don't jump the gun. Both series can go either way.
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wow, the cavs are losin' control of this series. they're very lucky this is a 2-1 series and not 3-0.
i wonder what david stern will tell the refs to do to get the cavs in the finals.
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yeah, this could have quite easily been 3-0 if lebron didnt hit that game winner in the last game
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If (huge if though) Howard could stay out of foul trouble , it wouldn't be closed ... Orlando will beat themselves in Game 4 ... mark my words ... I appreciate this team ,no assholes, play hard , you can't hate on their star, I like Hedo's game aswell ..
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I think both series will go seven
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Pietrus=won of the most improve players IMO
hes stepped his game up alot since his departure from the warriors
wallace=not playin wit the same energy he used to wit the bulls, maybe why brown isnt playin him much
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Air France is a good role player and underrated as a defender
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ye i loved him at Golden State.
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hows the best player in the league gunna miss 4 fts dwn the stretch? KOBE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bron
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Air France is a good role player and underrated as a defender
on point
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amazing how on point i was with what i said before the series...
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THe Cavs are just too small to defend the Magic, and Ilgauskas, Mo WIlliams, and D-West have all pretty much tanked so far in the conference finals.
Lebron was amazing in games 1-2, but in game three he didn't look so good in the 4th, and could't buy an outside shot. You can tell he is feelign the pressure to do everything. His game isn't to score 40 a game (although obviously he can do it), but its gotta suck when your teammates can't do shit to help out.
There is no way the Cavs win if Lebron's supporting cast doesn't step it up. And if Lebron repeats his 4th quarter ft's, they are really done.
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THe Cavs are just too small to defend the Magic, and Ilgauskas, Mo WIlliams, and D-West have all pretty much tanked so far in the conference finals.
Lebron was amazing in games 1-2, but in game three he didn't look so good in the 4th, and could't buy an outside shot. You can tell he is feelign the pressure to do everything. His game isn't to score 40 a game (although obviously he can do it), but its gotta suck when your teammates can't do shit to help out.
There is no way the Cavs win if Lebron's supporting cast doesn't step it up. And if Lebron repeats his 4th quarter ft's, they are really done.
what happened to LeBron making his teammates better? LMAO. it's so fuckin obvious that if this were Kobe putting up these horrible 4th quarter performances, you'd be the first to trash him. :grumpy:
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Damn that shit's close niggas ... FT ... DAMN ... WOW SHIT.
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Could it be more obvious who David Stern wants to see win? Come on - Lebron gets free-throws with 0.5 seconds left! Then Varejao pushes Howard out of bounds on the final play but its a no call. Shit is sickening.
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^They'd rather have the Magic in the Finals than the Nuggets
How bout Howard making those FTs?!... WTF
Sick 3. Just sick.
Series done?
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Could it be more obvious who David Stern wants to see win?
yup...Lebron and Kobe
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anyone doubting kobe >>>>>>> lebron needs to wake the fuck up and stop living in a fairytale
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Damn Magic r for real, and its funny if Kobe woulda made all those horrible plays and turnovers in the 4th and OT everyone on here would be talkin so much shit but BRON BRON does it and its ok.
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Propz to the Magic!!!! I still have a feeling that the Cavs will win this series
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Orlando is looking like the best team remaining in these playoffs imo ... that inside - outside game is almost impossible to stop ...
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wow, lebron better get a new team in 2010 lmao
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
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Orlando is looking like the best team remaining in these playoffs imo ... that inside - outside game is almost impossible to stop ...
they're definitely the hot hand
that's all it takes in professional postseason sports....
get on a roll in the playoffs and you'll take it 90% of the time
granted you don't run into a wall (like the Cavs did... they looked like the hot team!)
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Cavs are still going to win this series
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Cavs are still going to win this series
it's possible but I wouldn't bet on it
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Orlando is looking like the best team remaining in these playoffs imo ... that inside - outside game is almost impossible to stop ...
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Damn Magic r for real, and its funny if Kobe woulda made all those horrible plays and turnovers in the 4th and OT everyone on here would be talkin so much shit but BRON BRON does it and its ok.
Nobody says he played great, but it's difficult when you don't get rest for the 2nd half and overtime straight and have to do absolutely everything... there's are reason while the games he scored the most in were also the ones the Cavs lost... his teammates ain't coming through against Orlando... the only way the Cavs have a shot at winning this is if Orlando is straight up beating themselves and choking it away now. With that said, if the Magic play this well against the Lakers, they would keep sinking 3s like a motherfucker, Alston would burn Fisher anytime and Howard would punk Gasol, while Fisher, Vujacic and Odom would brick 3s.
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Hey plant, ultimate cavs/Lebron fan. Taking the loss too hard to post in here or wat? All these Lebron fans seem to have more to say about Kobe then they do about their team.
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anyone doubting kobe >>>>>>> lebron needs to wake the fuck up and stop living in a fairytale
real fuckin talk
and coming from a boston fan, that means even more...
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
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Hey plant, ultimate cavs/Lebron fan. Taking the loss too hard to post in here or wat? All these Lebron fans seem to have more to say about Kobe then they do about their team.
plant isn't a cavs fan, he's just a lebron dickrider...lol
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Cavs are still going to win this series
lol. 4 real?? Hav u watched the series? should be over even with all the help tha cavs are gettn from the refs...ill bet u 100.00 bucks magic win series
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Cavs are still going to win this series
lol. 4 real?? Hav u watched the series? should be over even with all the help tha cavs are gettn from the refs...ill bet u 100.00 bucks magic win series
does he say stupid shit like this in real life as well?
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Cavs are still going to win this series
lol. 4 real?? Hav u watched the series? should be over even with all the help tha cavs are gettn from the refs...ill bet u 100.00 bucks magic win series
does he say stupid shit like this in real life as well?
no. thats why i was n shock when i read it..I mean anything can happen, but if u watched the series, i dnt c how u could say that? Everything is easy for the Magic
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Orlando is looking like the best team remaining in these playoffs imo ... that inside - outside game is almost impossible to stop ...
Id have to agree, so far. They just havent shown too many weaknesses or had the ups and downs that the Cavs, Lakers, or Nuggets have.
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damn it feels good to be a magic fan yell
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
The thing is, when LeBron isnt hot offensively...he still has the ability to get others involved. Thats just his game. He sets players up with good opportunities to score. When Kobe is off, things just go haywire because his game is to score, not necessarily create easy buckets for others. With that being said, there is no double standards here. Just like I say Kobe needs to take responsibility (as the "leader) when his team loses...they same goes for LeBron. Yeah he might have done as much as anyone could have expected...likewise for Kobe in some of their defeats. But ultimately, a real leader will take the loss as their own.
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The Magic are playing GREAT basketball right now, I cant see anyone beating them if they keep the inside out thing going like this. But they WILL cool off soon I think. Too bad nobody else on the Cavs will step up. Big Z loooking like a HUGE liabilty out there and none of the perimiter players are doing shit! LeBron STILL putting up AMAZING numbers tho he cant do it on his own.
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Hey plant, ultimate cavs/Lebron fan. Taking the loss too hard to post in here or wat? All these Lebron fans seem to have more to say about Kobe then they do about their team.
plant isn't a cavs fan, he's just a lebron dickrider...lol
LMFAO @ you having the nerve to calls anyone else on the forum a "dickrider" It just doesnt sound right coming from the biggest one of them all!
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The Magic are playing GREAT basketball right now, I cant see anyone beating them if they keep the inside out thing going like this. But they WILL cool off soon I think. Too bad nobody else on the Cavs will step up. Big Z loooking like a HUGE liabilty out there and none of the perimiter players are doing shit! LeBron STILL putting up AMAZING numbers tho he cant do it on his own.
they are playing great. If the Lakers make the finals, I think Orlando will present a much tougher matchup for LA then the Cavs will.
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The Magic are playing GREAT basketball right now, I cant see anyone beating them if they keep the inside out thing going like this. But they WILL cool off soon I think. Too bad nobody else on the Cavs will step up. Big Z loooking like a HUGE liabilty out there and none of the perimiter players are doing shit! LeBron STILL putting up AMAZING numbers tho he cant do it on his own.
they are playing great. If the Lakers make the finals, I think Orlando will present a much tougher matchup for LA then the Cavs will.
Yea I can see Dwight causing major problems for Pau/Bynum then pick your poison with Hedo or Rashard...If one of them isnt hot, the other one is. Pietrus = Solid all around player, good defender...Alston>>>Fisher...Courtney Lee is pretty dope too
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The Magic are playing GREAT basketball right now, I cant see anyone beating them if they keep the inside out thing going like this. But they WILL cool off soon I think. Too bad nobody else on the Cavs will step up. Big Z loooking like a HUGE liabilty out there and none of the perimiter players are doing shit! LeBron STILL putting up AMAZING numbers tho he cant do it on his own.
they are playing great. If the Lakers make the finals, I think Orlando will present a much tougher matchup for LA then the Cavs will.
Yea I can see Dwight causing major problems for Pau/Bynum then pick your poison with Hedo or Rashard...If one of them isnt hot, the other one is. Pietrus = Solid all around player, good defender...Alston>>>Fisher...Courtney Lee is pretty dope too
I think LA would struggle to defend the three. And yeah, no way Fisher or Farmar will stay with Alston. It would be pretty much a mismatch at every position...other then Kobe.
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The Magic are playing GREAT basketball right now, I cant see anyone beating them if they keep the inside out thing going like this. But they WILL cool off soon I think. Too bad nobody else on the Cavs will step up. Big Z loooking like a HUGE liabilty out there and none of the perimiter players are doing shit! LeBron STILL putting up AMAZING numbers tho he cant do it on his own.
they are playing great. If the Lakers make the finals, I think Orlando will present a much tougher matchup for LA then the Cavs will.
Yea I can see Dwight causing major problems for Pau/Bynum then pick your poison with Hedo or Rashard...If one of them isnt hot, the other one is. Pietrus = Solid all around player, good defender...Alston>>>Fisher...Courtney Lee is pretty dope too
I think LA would struggle to defend the three. And yeah, no way Fisher or Farmar will stay with Alston. It would be pretty much a mismatch at every position...other then Kobe.
sounds like the series against the Cavs right now...Altho I thought Mo Williams woulda had an advantage against Alston but Mo hasnt been knocking down his shots at all
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
what do you mean "it isn't like he's horrible"? have we been watching the same 4th quarters? LMAO. I call choke on every play while it's in progress and I'm right 95% of the time....how many turnovers did he have last game? of course hes gunna make big shots when hes shooting every time down, but making 1 in 5 shots is obviously not enough...hes still not the clutch player he needs to be in order for cleveland to be a top-tier team. lebron clearly needs to step it up...PeACe
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
The thing is, when LeBron isnt hot offensively...he still has the ability to get others involved. Thats just his game. He sets players up with good opportunities to score. When Kobe is off, things just go haywire because his game is to score, not necessarily create easy buckets for others. With that being said, there is no double standards here. Just like I say Kobe needs to take responsibility (as the "leader) when his team loses...they same goes for LeBron. Yeah he might have done as much as anyone could have expected...likewise for Kobe in some of their defeats. But ultimately, a real leader will take the loss as their own.
yea....lebron definitely got others involved.......the other team, with 8 turnovers. LOL
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
The thing is, when LeBron isnt hot offensively...he still has the ability to get others involved. Thats just his game. He sets players up with good opportunities to score. When Kobe is off, things just go haywire because his game is to score, not necessarily create easy buckets for others. With that being said, there is no double standards here. Just like I say Kobe needs to take responsibility (as the "leader) when his team loses...they same goes for LeBron. Yeah he might have done as much as anyone could have expected...likewise for Kobe in some of their defeats. But ultimately, a real leader will take the loss as their own.
yea....lebron definitely got others involved.......the other team, with 8 turnovers. LOL
yeah, he isnt as perfect as Kobe...
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
what do you mean "it isn't like he's horrible"? have we been watching the same 4th quarters? LMAO. I call choke on every play while it's in progress and I'm right 95% of the time....how many turnovers did he have last game? of course hes gunna make big shots when hes shooting every time down, but making 1 in 5 shots is obviously not enough...hes still not the clutch player he needs to be in order for cleveland to be a top-tier team. lebron clearly needs to step it up...PeACe
Question time:
What collection of players would you rather have? Kobe with the Cavs right now, or Kobe with the Lakers.
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
Lebron isn't playing GREAT in the 4th, but anything good the Cavs have done in the 4th has been ALL him. Anyone else step up and make a bucket? NOt really. No one can buy a bucket, he is trying to do way too much (sounds like Kobe when his team isn't doing anything) and thus turning the ball over.
Still, he is hitting big shots, hit the two free throw's to tie the game up last night, hit that three to bring them within one at the end of OT, hit the improbable game winner in game 2........it isn't like he is horrible, just trying to do too much because it is clear he has no trust in his team.
what do you mean "it isn't like he's horrible"? have we been watching the same 4th quarters? LMAO. I call choke on every play while it's in progress and I'm right 95% of the time....how many turnovers did he have last game? of course hes gunna make big shots when hes shooting every time down, but making 1 in 5 shots is obviously not enough...hes still not the clutch player he needs to be in order for cleveland to be a top-tier team. lebron clearly needs to step it up...PeACe
Question time:
What collection of players would you rather have? Kobe with the Cavs right now, or Kobe with the Lakers.
Obviously Kobe with the Lakers
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I know the Magic have dominated this series but I still have a feeling the Cavs will win the next 3, I will try and not say I told you so when it happens.
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I know the Magic have dominated this series but I still have a feeling the Cavs will win the next 3, I will try and not say I told you so when it happens.
hit up Vegas and make a bet
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I know the Magic have dominated this series but I still have a feeling the Cavs will win the next 3, I will try and not say I told you so when it happens.
hit up Vegas and make a bet
I can see it happening. Not saying it WILL. But Cleveland almost for sure will win the next game, putting all the pressure back on the Magic for game 6. If they dont win that game at home..youd be looking at a game 7 in Cleveland. Advantage obviously would go to Cleveland.
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I know the Magic have dominated this series but I still have a feeling the Cavs will win the next 3, I will try and not say I told you so when it happens.
anything could happen. But what makes you think that all the sudden the cavs can stop the MAgic?
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Hey, has anyone this whole series tried to post up Howard?
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haha fuckin refs takin back all their calls (a day tooooooooo late)
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wow can't wait for 2mrw's game
i feel cleveland still has a chance............ a small chance but i can't see them taking the series.
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dont know gotta feelin cavs might take it tomorrow
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Orlando in 6
Cavs Should take tonight's game.
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anything short of a kobe-lebron finals is a disappointment
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I don't think West or Williams or Ilgauskas can shoot any worse. And I don't see Lebron turning the ball over that many times in the 4th again.
Really, Lebron's supporting cast has been SHIT for most of the series, yet three games have came down to the last few seconds. All this, with Orlando shooting 3's like lay-ups.
Cleveland will likely win tonight, but there are no guarantee's, just like there wasn't at the beginning of the series. Orlando can shoot, they are DEEP, athletic, and have CLUTCH players, plus the quickest and most athletic big man in the game.
Gonna be a good one
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Orlando guna close it out tonight
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Lmfao @ Wally pushing Dwight, what is this world coming to.
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
he did it at home, like Kobe... lol.
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The best athlete in the world besides Nadal put his team on his back tonight. What an incredible performance
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
he did it at home, like Kobe... lol.
Points Rebs Assists
Kobe 22 5 8
LeBron 37 14 12
He did it at home...but not like Kobe. lol
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Somebody needed to tell Rafer Alston to stop shooting, he killed his team down the stretch. Good game for Cleveland, Mo Williams stepped up the way he can.
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
he did it at home, like Kobe... lol.
Points Rebs Assists
Kobe 22 5 8
LeBron 37 14 12
He did it at home...but not like Kobe. lol
Not to forget 17 in the 4th 8)
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^^yup, Bron is on a whole other level
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
he did it at home, like Kobe... lol.
Points Rebs Assists
Kobe 22 5 8
LeBron 37 14 12
He did it at home...but not like Kobe. lol
You know like I know that if LeBron had Odom being like that, his numbers would be down too. You can't knock the King today, but at the end of the day, Kobe gets that ring, LeBron watches at home with his kids.
I really wish Sccit wasn't a Laker fan, 'cause it's really annoying debating people when they hate your team just 'cause some Jew gets people pissed at the Lakers.
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Orlando guna close it out tonight
sure about that?
James scored 21 points in the second half - 17 in the fourth quarter - and had a hand in 29 of Cleveland's 34 points in the final 12 minutes. 4 assists and 4 boards in the 4th, no turnovers
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I called Orlando in 6 in another thread, people have been underrating them all year. The injury to Jameer Nelson hurt but Alston has been playing well, and Courtney Lee not missing much time has been a big factor. They have a lot of versatile swingmen who can defend, pass and shoot the 3, and Howard cleans up on the inside. It's funny how people bring Kobe in it, and say if he would have done it then everybody would have been hating on him. But by doing that, you're hating on LeBron. He has shot pretty well this series, today was a bad game with turnovers though. The key is that it's a team game, the Magic are outplaying the Cavs, who need to play a better team game if they want to come back. I would love to see Orlando finish them off on their own court in Game 5 so we can see the end of the puppet commercials.
the point is, lebron has been stinking shit up in the 4th quarters....for kobe fans, it's upsetting, cuz this is the dude who gets compared to kobe all the time.
James scored 21 points in the second half - 17 in the fourth quarter - and had a hand in 29 of Cleveland's 34 points in the final 12 minutes. 4 boards and 4 assists as well
has kobe ever done that in the 4th in a game of this magnitude?
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I wonder what the criticism will be of LeBrons game tonight on this forum....lolol
he did it at home, like Kobe... lol.
Points Rebs Assists
Kobe 22 5 8
LeBron 37 14 12
He did it at home...but not like Kobe. lol
You know like I know that if LeBron had Odom being like that, his numbers would be down too. You can't knock the King today, but at the end of the day, Kobe gets that ring, LeBron watches at home with his kids.
I really wish Sccit wasn't a Laker fan, 'cause it's really annoying debating people when they hate your team just 'cause some Jew gets people pissed at the Lakers.
They key stats arent the points...but the assists and rebounds.
And Scitt is annoying. But people dont hate the Lakers cus of him. They just argue against the Lakers cus of him. Most of the people on here wouldnt give a shit, and probably hardly talk about the Lakers outside of here. But when you log on and you get a bunch of "Kobes the greatest", "Everybody else sucks", "We love Kobe!", "Kobe>>>>>mom>Girlfriend>>MJ>LeBron..."...etc...etc. Its natural to argue it. I have no problem with homosexuals. But I dont like such man on man love flooding the forum.
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LBJ scores or assists on 32 straight pts.
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I'm amazed how many people counted the Cavs out just like that, with that whole "96% of teams up 3-1 win the series" statistic.
Every single game these two have played against each other was close. All it would have taken is one slip-up on either end, maybe a missed free throw or a bad pass, and the other team can take it, and that's how I imagine it being for the rest of this series. It's not exactly farfetched to believe Cavs can tie the series up in Game 6, thus becoming the favorites again in Game 7.
And I'm especially surprised how many have counted out the Cavs given how many people here seem to believe the NBA rigs their games. If that were the case, you honestly think they would they choose now of all times to stop the rigging? Every single one of you knows what David Stern wants to see in the Finals, and it sure as hell doesn't involve Orlando.
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I'm amazed how many people counted the Cavs out just like that, with that whole "96% of teams up 3-1 win the series" statistic.
Every single game these two have played against each other was close. All it would have taken is one slip-up on either end, maybe a missed free throw or a bad pass, and the other team can take it, and that's how I imagine it being for the rest of this series. It's not exactly farfetched to believe Cavs can tie the series up in Game 6, thus becoming the favorites again in Game 7.
And I'm especially surprised how many have counted out the Cavs given how many people here seem to believe the NBA rigs their games. If that were the case, you honestly think they would they choose now of all times to stop the rigging? Every single one of you knows what David Stern wants to see in the Finals, and it sure as hell doesn't involve Orlando.
All the pressure is on Orlando to win game 6 now. They lose at home...they gotta go back to Clevelend for game 7, and they do NOT wanna go back there for a game 7.
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I'm amazed how many people counted the Cavs out just like that, with that whole "96% of teams up 3-1 win the series" statistic.
Every single game these two have played against each other was close. All it would have taken is one slip-up on either end, maybe a missed free throw or a bad pass, and the other team can take it, and that's how I imagine it being for the rest of this series. It's not exactly farfetched to believe Cavs can tie the series up in Game 6, thus becoming the favorites again in Game 7.
And I'm especially surprised how many have counted out the Cavs given how many people here seem to believe the NBA rigs their games. If that were the case, you honestly think they would they choose now of all times to stop the rigging? Every single one of you knows what David Stern wants to see in the Finals, and it sure as hell doesn't involve Orlando.
All the pressure is on Orlando to win game 6 now. They lose at home...they gotta go back to Clevelend for game 7, and they do NOT wanna go back there for a game 7.
I hope Cleveland wins- they need to pray Orlando doesn't hit over 40% on three's, and hopefully someone besides LBJ can fill the net. Last gaem was the first one of the series where someone other than Lebron scored 20 pts in a game for the Cavs.
I still think Cleveland is another guard (someone taller than West or Williams) and post player(one who can score and is athletic) away.........if they prove me otherwise, then major props to Lebron and them.
Its clear that Lebron, for the Cavs to be successful, has to CARRY this team. The CAvs have only won 2 of the last 5, and look what Lebron had to to win those ones........one of the greatest buzzer beaters in the playoffs ever, and then one of the best 4th quarters ever.
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Orlando guna close it out tonight
sure about that?
James scored 21 points in the second half - 17 in the fourth quarter - and had a hand in 29 of Cleveland's 34 points in the final 12 minutes. 4 assists and 4 boards in the 4th, no turnovers
theyll close it out tonight. A few stupid shots that arent taken and Orlando would have won. LOL@ THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD GIVING UP a 22 pt lead for the 3rd time in the series..So many dickriders its disgusting...Cant wait to hear what people say when Orlando wins tonight. Mo Williams went off and they still blew the lead...What kind of leader lets his team blow 20 pt leads?
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i think orlando wins tonight, the cavs look tired, and lebron can't do it all for the 6th straight game.
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I actually want Cleveland to win. Orlando has too many match up problems for the Lakers, especially with Dwight Horward.
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Orlando guna close it out tonight
sure about that?
James scored 21 points in the second half - 17 in the fourth quarter - and had a hand in 29 of Cleveland's 34 points in the final 12 minutes. 4 assists and 4 boards in the 4th, no turnovers
theyll close it out tonight. A few stupid shots that arent taken and Orlando would have won. LOL@ THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD GIVING UP a 22 pt lead for the 3rd time in the series..So many dickriders its disgusting...Cant wait to hear what people say when Orlando wins tonight. Mo Williams went off and they still blew the lead...What kind of leader lets his team blow 20 pt leads?
Kobe Bryant for instance
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Orlando guna close it out tonight
sure about that?
James scored 21 points in the second half - 17 in the fourth quarter - and had a hand in 29 of Cleveland's 34 points in the final 12 minutes. 4 assists and 4 boards in the 4th, no turnovers
theyll close it out tonight. A few stupid shots that arent taken and Orlando would have won. LOL@ THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD GIVING UP a 22 pt lead for the 3rd time in the series..So many dickriders its disgusting...Cant wait to hear what people say when Orlando wins tonight. Mo Williams went off and they still blew the lead...What kind of leader lets his team blow 20 pt leads?
Kobe Bryant for instance
hasnt happened this year.. they blew a 14 pt lead with him ON THE BENCH...
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Wow, the Cavs are playing horrible... now all I can hope for is the Magic giving the Lakers trouble, or else this season will have been plain depressing to me
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magic are just destroying the cavs tonight, how many airballs have the cavs thrown up? this is terrible
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ESPN & Nike must be pissing themself @ the money gone here...
Dont' get me wrong the better team won, But Cle/L.A. was defo the match (On paper).
Can't wait to see James next year.
(I hope he didn't peak already, can't imagine stage II)
Not because I'm a Laker fan & love Kobe's game, But every year the guy step's it up and show's maturity.
James reminds me of bryant in that essence the kid is pretty good... (Understatement)
lol.. needs a better team & change of environment tho.
Don't shoot yourself Stern, It's not all bad.
I mean Howard ain't exactly Shaq, But the best bigman in the game. (Good enough)
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I want to see Adidas do a Dwight "Superman" Howard puppet now... lol.
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damn magic went in
but cavs played good
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LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
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but then if he would have passed it "more" and the player would have missed brown would have been like why'd you pass it, when in a critical time like this we need you to be havin the ball
(but if they would have scored it would have been aite0
thats why the coachin are one-sided wit their ways
LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
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LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
Cleveland has a horrible offense, case closed. Mo Williams has been exposed as an ordinary player, not an all-star. He would be great as a 6th man. No team in NBA history with a player as avwerage as Mo has ever won a title, so I'm not that surprised.
Lebron is only 24, and he is the best all-around player in the league, or maybe tied with Kobe. The difference: Kobe is in a system where his game can flourish, and has teammates he can depend on. LBJ will be back, and once the Cavs get a big guy who can actually guard someone, and a PG who can take some of the ball carrying duties off Lebron (dude should be in the post for half of each game), then the Cavs will have a chance to win a title.
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LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
Cleveland has a horrible offense, case closed. Mo Williams has been exposed as an ordinary player, not an all-star. He would be great as a 6th man. No team in NBA history with a player as avwerage as Mo has ever won a title, so I'm not that surprised.
The career of Robert Horry goes unsolved in this thread.
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LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
Cleveland has a horrible offense, case closed. Mo Williams has been exposed as an ordinary player, not an all-star. He would be great as a 6th man. No team in NBA history with a player as avwerage as Mo has ever won a title, so I'm not that surprised.
Lebron is only 24, and he is the best all-around player in the league, or maybe tied with Kobe. The difference: Kobe is in a system where his game can flourish, and has teammates he can depend on. LBJ will be back, and once the Cavs get a big guy who can actually guard someone, and a PG who can take some of the ball carrying duties off Lebron (dude should be in the post for half of each game), then the Cavs will have a chance to win a title.
LOL such excuses..His team had 1 bad series..U guys are goin overboard with this lebron dickriding. "CASE CLOSED" Fuck outta here you like what u say is the bottom line..Mo was an all star all year and he just had 1 bad series he didnt get exposed HE MISSED SHOTS...They got beat by a better team CASE CLOSED..LOL
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LOL @Bron holding and holding and holding onto the ball...best player in NBA..LMFAO
Cleveland has a horrible offense, case closed. Mo Williams has been exposed as an ordinary player, not an all-star. He would be great as a 6th man. No team in NBA history with a player as avwerage as Mo has ever won a title, so I'm not that surprised.
Lebron is only 24, and he is the best all-around player in the league, or maybe tied with Kobe. The difference: Kobe is in a system where his game can flourish, and has teammates he can depend on. LBJ will be back, and once the Cavs get a big guy who can actually guard someone, and a PG who can take some of the ball carrying duties off Lebron (dude should be in the post for half of each game), then the Cavs will have a chance to win a title.
LOL such excuses..His team had 1 bad series..U guys are goin overboard with this lebron dickriding. "CASE CLOSED" Fuck outta here you like what u say is the bottom line..Mo was an all star all year and he just had 1 bad series he didnt get exposed HE MISSED SHOTS...They got beat by a better team CASE CLOSED..LOL
Um, I am not making excuses, I actually said Orlando is better and that the Magic were too deep and have too many shooters, and that The Cavs don't have anyone to stop Dwight.
And in case you didn't notice, Mo was average throughout the playoffs. He would make a great 6th man for some instant scoring, and Varejoa would also be good off the bench. But no team had a worse starting frontline than the Cavs (well, CLippers).......
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^yall are the same fuckers who were screamin about how great Cleveland was when they were sweepin teams and how the Cavs are by far the best team in the league. LMFAO. I love the idiocy levels of this board. Face it...I was right, ya'll were wrong.
1.Kobe=clear cut best player
2.Cavs=overrated regular season team
3.LeBron=overhyped player who still hasn't proved shit
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^yeah almost averaging a triple-double means shit. :laugh:
your still on about the Cavs? :D
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Magic were just better
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^yall are the same fuckers who were screamin about how great Cleveland was when they were sweepin teams and how the Cavs are by far the best team in the league. LMFAO. I love the idiocy levels of this board. Face it...I was right, ya'll were wrong.
NIK, youve been wrong about the lakers for like 5 strait years lol. Dont pretend like you can all of a sudden say "Im right youre wrong!" lol. And yeah, just like MANY others (analysts included), I think right now...Lebron is a step ahead of Kobe. Look at my posts. I didnt say the Cavs would sweep through the playoffs. I said the first two rounds were relatively easy for them...and they would have trouble in the Conference finals. That doesnt change the fact that LeBrons overall game is obviously better then Kobes.
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^appreantly rings determine how good of a basketball player you are lol.
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^appreantly rings determine how good of a basketball player you are lol.
they only do when Kobe wins a ring lol. If anyone would have used the argument that Jordan had twice as many rings as Kobe, therefor was far and away the better player....he'd say "Jordan had a way better team, blah blah blah". Now, Kobe might win a ring when LeBron wont...and Kobe has the better team around him...but none of that matters all of a sudden lol
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Kobe alone a few years ago was awful, while LeBron alone gets himself 60 wins & goes to the Eastern Conference Finals.
i'll admit LeBron had more help than Kobe did a few years ago, but either way; the "best player of all-time" should be good enough to win 50 games alone lol.
look at all the team who have won recently;
LA - Kobe & Shaq.
Pistons - best starting 5 in years.
Spurs - Duncan & David & then Duncan, Parker & Manu.
Celtics - KG, PP & Ray Allen.
all had more than one player getting the job done & all had great defense.
point is, LeBron was ALONE; but one day he'll have the right fit with other people with him & he'll win his FAIR SHARE of rings.
but the fact he got 60 wins & averaged a triple double is beyond impressive & he is only on the rise.
plus, look at guys like Karl Malone & AI, two AMAZING, HOF players, but ring-less; but nobody takes that away from them.
& lets not forget LeBron is 24 LMAO.
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I think right now...Lebron is a step ahead of Kobe.
LOL...you're funny, man.