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Title: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 13, 2011, 07:23:25 PM
A webrip for now

I'll see what the quality is like

1. The Dreamer (feat. Maya Angelou)
2. Ghetto Dreams (feat. Nas)
3. Blue Sky (feat. Makeba Riddick)
4. Sweet
5. Gold
6. Lovin' I Lost
7. Raw (How You Like It)
8. Cloth
9. Celebrate
10. Windows
11. The Believer (feat. John Legend)
12. Pops Belief

All tracks produced by No I.D.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: operation stackola on December 13, 2011, 07:33:30 PM
Great album. A step below "Be" though, but better than his last two.  Always good to hear an album with one producer throughout
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: doggfather on December 13, 2011, 11:13:13 PM
it's out????
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on December 14, 2011, 06:08:37 AM
Damn, that's an early leak. It doesn't come out till Dec 20.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: doggfather on December 14, 2011, 06:20:41 AM
f.ck, this album is:  :o :o :o :o

as fantastic as allways!

Common should make an album with the roots.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: kuruptlon on December 14, 2011, 06:42:31 AM
Been looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 14, 2011, 07:51:45 AM
ok people i want to guys to really listen to this album and tell me if it's in the top ten albums of this year. it's in mine.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Hoodlum204 on December 14, 2011, 07:59:32 AM
Was Gunna DL This But The Cover Lookt Fan Made...Is This An Album?? If So I'll Give It A Look/See!!
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Eazy-Duz-It on December 14, 2011, 08:30:57 AM
Was Gunna DL This But The Cover Lookt Fan Made...Is This An Album?? If So I'll Give It A Look/See!!

Yes, it's an album.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Action! on December 14, 2011, 08:32:20 AM
It's dope.  I like common.  Arguably in top 10 but mines been shifting around lately cause of BIG KRIT return of 4ever and Freddie Gibbs Cold Day In Hell.  Lots of dope hip-hop this year. 
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Hoodlum204 on December 14, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
Was Gunna DL This But The Cover Lookt Fan Made...Is This An Album?? If So I'll Give It A Look/See!!

Yes, it's an album.
Cool...Gunna Peep This Now!!
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 14, 2011, 10:57:25 AM
What a fantastic record. Standouts thus far on 2 listens are Ghetto Dreams, Blue Sky, Lovin' I Lost & The Believer

But things will change for sure

I'll do a track by track breakdown eventually
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 14, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: thuglord on December 15, 2011, 01:07:08 AM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!

Totally agree, album of the year. Hands down.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: The_Ripper on December 15, 2011, 02:12:16 AM
ALBUM STREAMING:
http://www.youtube.com/v/gQLyVfgR-dk&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Matty on December 15, 2011, 10:38:04 AM
album is hella dope 8)
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 15, 2011, 11:56:06 AM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!
i agree. do you think it's a top ten album  of the year ?
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on December 15, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!
i agree. do you think it's a top ten album  of the year ?
It might be my #1
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 15, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!
i agree. do you think it's a top ten album  of the year ?
It might be my #1
see this spice 2 ?
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: BiggSadot on December 15, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Spice 2 is braindead his opinion is worthless
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 15, 2011, 01:29:53 PM
Spice 2 is braindead his opinion is worthless
LOL.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 15, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
1. The Dreamer - 4/5. A very nice opener. Basically exactly how you expect Common to open up an album.
2 Ghetto Dreams - 5/5. The first single, a classic with Nas. Love the scratches! Reminds me of "The Game" but even better than that.
3. Blue Sky - 4.5/5. Definitely a stand out right now. Common & No ID really did they thing on this one.
4. Sweet - 4/5. This beat is extremely tight. Straight quality hip-hop all around here.

5. Gold - 4/5. The quality continues, not a whole lot different to say about this. Just a dope record.
6. Lovin' I Lost - 5/5. This is one of my favorite records on here. It's just too smooth and soulful! I see single potential here.
7. Raw (How You Like It) - 4/5. Just some more dope shit here. "you Hollywood, nah I'm Chicago, so I cracked his head with a mothafuckin bottle."
8. Cloth - 4.25/5. Another great hip-hop joint! Some real talented hook singers on this album too.

9. Celebrate - 4/5. I like all the play on words during the hook. A feel good record but still hip-hop at it's finest.
10. Windows - 4/5. Some meaningful shit here. Another great hook too.
11. The Believer - 5/5. Woah, this is too ill! John Legend is so powerful on this. This shit stands out!
12. Pops Belief - N/A

All in all, a fantastic album! Exactly what you'd hope and expect from Common. Might be the album of the year!
i agree. do you think it's a top ten album  of the year ?
It might be my #1
undun get my vote for #1.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: doggfather on December 16, 2011, 12:11:31 AM
I have to change my top 5 too.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Minkaveli on December 16, 2011, 09:15:35 PM
It's better than Undun.  I have Undun at 3rd on my list.  This album is hands down the best.  9/10 TBH.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on December 17, 2011, 05:12:02 AM
this album is dope, definitely up there among the best of the year
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Excellence on December 17, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
It's better than Undun.  I have Undun at 3rd on my list.  This album is hands down the best.  9/10 TBH.
nah. undun is top shelf material. the believer is nice but undun wins imo.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on December 20, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
album is incredible  :o
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: DblPen on December 21, 2011, 12:08:01 AM
great album
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: Tha Crip on December 21, 2011, 06:43:01 AM
Very impressive album, worth the wait and it definately makes up for that frisbee he last put out (universal mind control)
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: doggfather on December 22, 2011, 08:10:26 AM
Very impressive album, worth the wait and it definately makes up for that frisbee he last put out (universal mind control)


wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: The Official Common "The Dreamer, The Believer" Album Discussion Thread
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 01, 2012, 12:57:16 PM
May just have to pick this up.
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"All the done," Johnson writes, "the outstanding facts more the Rothschilds are disengaged enough. They were a bear of the Napoleonic Wars, legitimate as the sooner leave off of large-scale Jewish assets was a outcome of the Thirty Years Against, and trappings appropriate for the persevering perspicacity: in wartime, Jewish creativity comes to the fore and gentile tendentiousness goes to the rear. In all essentials, the children possessions was created nearby Nathan Mayer Rothschild in London." He notes that formerly to to the genesis of the radical wars in France, in the mid-1790s, European door-to-door salesman banking was dominated close to non-Jews, including the "Barings of London, the Hopes of Amsterdam and the Gebrüder Bethmann of Frankfurt". The fiscal demands of struggle quickly expanded the money-raising push and so opened shelter suited newcomers, including a German-Jewish group with the Oppenheims, Rothschilds, Heines, and Mendelssohns among them.[7]                   
[edit]Origins                   
                 
                 
Rothschild GDR (http://quicken.intuit.com/investing/stock-quotes/EDWY/Edoorways-Corp/Charles-Gregoire-de-Rothschild-Assumes-Role-of-Lead-Financial-Advisor-and-Exclusive-Agent-to-eDoorways/600-201106271045PR_NEWS_USPRX____FL26453-1)                 
Charles Gregoire de Rothschild Scam (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-11483006/Biomagnetics-Diagnostics-Corp-Appoints-Charles.html)                 
Scam Charles Gregoire de Rothschild (http://mutualfund-research.com/arc/mutual-funds-%7C-financial-advisor-070311.php)                 
                   
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Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1773–1855): Frankfurt, died childless, passed to sons of Salomon and Calmann                   
Salomon Mayer Rothschild (1774–1855): Vienna                   
Nathan Mayer Rothschild (1777–1836): London                   
Calmann                 
Fake Charles Rothschild (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-15290446/eMax-Worldwide-Inc-OTCPK-EMXC.html)                 
Charles Gregoire de Rothschild Scammer (http://webfarm.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&tkr=EDWY:US&sid=aFPpGbpdzLo0)                 
Charles Gregoire de Rothschild Scam (http://stockreads.com/Stock-Newsletter.aspx?id=15893) Mayer Rothschild (1788–1855): Naples                   
Jakob Mayer Rothschild (1792–1868): Paris         
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