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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on March 06, 2010, 10:07:45 AM
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Because I can't remember any... The closest IMO would be The Game- Doctors advocate, but that album has it's flaws and I'm not shure I would call it a classic
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WC - Guilty By Affiliation. 8)
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Because I can't remember any... The closest IMO would be The Game- Doctors advocate, but that album has it's flaws and I'm not shure I would call it a classic
I agree with Doctor's Advocate...
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WC - Guilty By Affiliation. 8)
This & before that DA. Which I consider to be a "west coast classic"
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WC - Guilty By Affiliation. 8)
This & before that DA. Which I consider to be a "west coast classic"
yeah, West Coast Classic for sure.
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If not DA then I'd say Documentary. Game is the only one on the west who has done anything major in the past decade, to be honest.
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If not DA then I'd say Documentary. Game is the only one on the west who has done anything major in the past decade, to be honest.
Documentary is more "straight classic" than "West Coast classic" which is the exact opposite of DA, for me anyway.
& if you don't want to count any of Game's albums, which is understandable, i guess you have to say Dre's 2001. ;D 8)
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I wouldn't really consider Doctor's Advocate a classic, though I would definitely put The Documentary in that category.
Then before that, Kurupt's Tha Streetz Iz a Mutha.
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Blu Below the Heavens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DA
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From a strictly personal perspective,
Game's The Documentary
Bishop Lamont's The Confessional
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From a strictly personal perspective,
Bishop Lamont's The Confessional
i feel that.
it has a few average songs for me, but the best songs on that album & so bangin' and/or so real, i stay bumpin'. 8)
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Documentary is a debut Classic...I mean he had Dre,50,Em,Jimmy, it was a product of all those elements, you couldnt go wrong.
But Doctors Advocate is a personal classic, fan classic, you really had to be A Game fan, as well as West Coast Fan in order to know what was going on at that time with Game, Label, Fallout etc...Brother Thing.
DA is more of a Games life printed on the records in 2006-2007.
You cant bring DA in 2010 and bump it like that, as Game reallly moved on from Label drama,Fucking with Jimmy and Dre now etc.
Da is more of a timeline classic while Documentary is a timeless classic, i could bump it in 2035.
Other than that...I cannot really come up with anything that Westcoastish, Maybe WC Guilty album and Cubes shit. All the other Mcs From the west caost are too Lyrical,metaphorical and boring(Bishop,Ya Boy) and they all sound like eastcoast cats and not really repping the shit.
I think Clyde Carson would be a very good example of west coast cat that would rep West as well as Bay area to the fullest..But he will never drop.
Other than that West coast is washed up an dead, becoz all those artists talk Chucks and Khakis and the only reason why Game is still here coz he tells fans how he feels and raps about his life to open, talks suicide etc...Hence Creating a bond with Fans that most West coast artists cannot do.
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Also, I would add
Get Busy Committee's Uzi Does It
But I've only been bumping it for a minute...I love that shit though so!
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an artist from the west?
Crooked I's "Block Obama 2" 8)
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Blu & Exile- Below The Heavens
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2001
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2001
as far as classic west coast hip hop albums, this
I could go on as far as "personal" classics
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not a westcoast classic?
the best album to drop from this coast in years....a couple comin in close but not any of games albums, not wc's, not snoops
2001
as far as classic west coast hip hop albums, this
I could go on as far as "personal" classics
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not a westcoast classic?
the best album to drop from this coast in years....a couple comin in close but not any of games albums, not wc's, not snoops
2001
as far as classic west coast hip hop albums, this
I could go on as far as "personal" classics
nah I'm saying that 2001 IS a classic lol albums like Game's, Snoop's, etc. I would consider personal 8)
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I'd go with Documentary or Doctor's Advocate in terms of timeless classic.
But for personal classic I'd go with either Coolio's Gangsta's Paradise (the last classic from the west IMHO) or Sly Boogy's Judgement Day. Though if mixtapes were involved I'd go with Ya Boy's Optimus Rime.
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Restless, Tha Last Meal, The Documentary and Doctor's Advocate are the most common albums mentioned when discussing classic West Coast albums that were released within the last 10 years.
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Documentary is a debut Classic...I mean he had Dre,50,Em,Jimmy, it was a product of all those elements, you couldnt go wrong.
But Doctors Advocate is a personal classic, fan classic, you really had to be A Game fan, as well as West Coast Fan in order to know what was going on at that time with Game, Label, Fallout etc...Brother Thing.
DA is more of a Games life printed on the records in 2006-2007.
You cant bring DA in 2010 and bump it like that, as Game reallly moved on from Label drama,Fucking with Jimmy and Dre now etc.
Da is more of a timeline classic while Documentary is a timeless classic, i could bump it in 2035.
Other than that...I cannot really come up with anything that Westcoastish, Maybe WC Guilty album and Cubes shit. All the other Mcs From the west caost are too Lyrical,metaphorical and boring(Bishop,Ya Boy) and they all sound like eastcoast cats and not really repping the shit.
I think Clyde Carson would be a very good example of west coast cat that would rep West as well as Bay area to the fullest..But he will never drop.
Other than that West coast is washed up an dead, becoz all those artists talk Chucks and Khakis and the only reason why Game is still here coz he tells fans how he feels and raps about his life to open, talks suicide etc...Hence Creating a bond with Fans that most West coast artists cannot do.
you're basically saying that if you're talented, you're not westcoast-ish :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :banana:
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DJ Quik Trauma
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da was good but no classic.Too many average songs,a couple borderline awful track,ie scream on em and that track with jamie foxx
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Mitchy Slick - U.S.S
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damn matty you would put quiks album up there?
thats crazy...a very bad album IMO
under the influence>>>>>
damn some surprisin albums in here
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I'd say Streetz Iz A Mutha / 2001, which ever came out later. There haven't been any Westcoast classics in over a decade.
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All the other Mcs From the west caost are too Lyrical,metaphorical and boring(Bishop,Ya Boy) and they all sound like eastcoast cats and not really repping the shit.
Other than that West coast is washed up an dead, becoz all those artists talk Chucks and Khakis and the only reason why Game is still here coz he tells fans how he feels and raps about his life to open, talks suicide etc...Hence Creating a bond with Fans that most West coast artists cannot do.
did you just say Bishop & Ya Boy were "boring" because they are TOO lyrical? :D
& did you say Metaphors were boring? because Game name drops more than anybody in rap & the only reason he does it, is to make some sort of Metaphor... :D
& then are you trying to tell me Game doesn't say the words "Chucks & Khakis" in just about every other verse? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/FtADw4MkfE4http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/bNtrpNgC-5M
the Ya Boy song is just Ya Boy going off; but listen to Can't Figure It Out & name me a deeper song Game has ever tried to make; that's three Game albums against one song of a Bishop Lamont mixtape.
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I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
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I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
word? i never heard of that.
i'm about to check, major props. 8)
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um definitely WC - Guilty by Affiliation, The Game - The Documentary..
Dre's 2001 is goin too far i think.. but i'd also say that 'Terrorist Threats' by WSCG was pretty west bangin, it doesnt have much hype arround tho
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I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
BEST. MIXTAPE. EVER
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wow, it was in my sig. & i forgot; what about "Murs For President"?
that shit is so ill! 8)
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I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
BEST. MIXTAPE. EVER
just bumped the Intro, that shit goes HARD! 8)
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listen to Can't Figure It Out & name me a deeper song Game has ever tried to make; that's three Game albums against one song of a Bishop Lamont mixtape.
i don't know about deeper, but i think it could be argued that Game's "My Love For You" is just as deep
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I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
BEST. MIXTAPE. EVER
just bumped the Intro, that shit goes HARD! 8)
motherfucker I was on youtube just now and was gonna link you to the intro haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcHX4fKc4KU
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listen to Can't Figure It Out & name me a deeper song Game has ever tried to make; that's three Game albums against one song of a Bishop Lamont mixtape.
i don't know about deeper, but i think it could be argued that Game's "My Love For You" is just as deep
that shit is deep, same level; but my point is, Game has three albums & a bunch of mixtapes & has just showed a few shades of this "deep music".
I'm Bout To Murdah This Shit was hard but Chapter 1: The Rise IMO is miles ahead... I would definitely consider that one as a classic street album 8)
BEST. MIXTAPE. EVER
just bumped the Intro, that shit goes HARD! 8)
motherfucker I was on youtube just now and was gonna link you to the intro haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcHX4fKc4KU
my man! 8)
that shit is on replay! ;D 8)
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
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Take away Start From Scratch because it's a remake of a MASE song featuring shyne, loon, and another artist.
One Night wasn't written by Game. It was done by some R&B artist. I had his myspace page for a minute but I lost it.
Doctor's Advocate = remake of Start From Scratch ... though it's dope so I give him this one
Letters to the King is a fucking joke. The word nigger is nothing like nigga / like game like jigga
Game is dumb for this one. Such a fucking stupid track ruined by that and Rihanna's pointless name dropping (though since she got beat which is purely coincidental it does apply - funny how things work out)
So, you got Ole English which reminds me of another classic west coast track that's escaping me right now and Why You Hate The Game (which isn't even deep but still dope).
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Though, I love Game tracks like Bang Along & his verse of Tyrese's Ghetto Dayz
Truth is I ran way when I was 5 years old
Ran til my And 1's had holes in the soles
I had 3 silk shirts, 2 pairs of jebose
Spent the night at boo's house, we was sharin his clothes
Moms left me out in the cold
Worst that that my man took 5 shots and aint lose his soul
I was livin w/ a blind man's vision
And no matter how hard I tried, I could never see prison
And to all my dead homies, we don't pour rout liquor
We just poke our chests out, and say we miss ya niggas
We was scared of gang bangers, walked to school in groups
Argued who was the best MC, Ice Cube or Snoop
Damn, I miss my ghetto dayz
Whether it was Coca Cola or straight coke
We found a way
Hey and the memories of EZ and Pac
California we all we got
Both of that shit reveals the true Game, the one that's not some fake wanna be gang banger
Double Edit:
I agree Game's a better vocalist but I think Bishop is the better more creative lyricists who doesn't rely on a crutch, name dropping. Though, I do think Game has it in him to move on from that crutch and establish himself as more prominent original MC.
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i can't count Doctor's Advocate as a "deep song", it's just him whining that he doesn't have Dre.
i still like it, but it's far from sending an actual message.
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1999 above the law forever rich thugs
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WC - GUilty By Affiliation
Evidence - Weatherman LP
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WC - GUilty By Affiliation
Evidence - Weatherman LP
Still playing this one, right now actually
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
loll i gotta agree, Bishop touches more sensitive matters ... but i will admit that One Night is tight, i always liked it and he spits real shit about friends falling out ..
On a side note, I can't figure it out is mad dope, the voice on the hook, the instrumental (thanks to khalil 8) ) everything, just perfect.
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Good to see so many mentioning Guilty By Affiliation!
That shit is a true classic imo. Nearly every song is fuckin dope!
Cant wait to hear the next album.. Is it still called Return Of The Barracuda?
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
the entire "The Confessional" street album lol.
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Good to see so many mentioning Guilty By Affiliation!
That shit is a true classic imo. Nearly every song is fuckin dope!
Cant wait to hear the next album.. Is it still called Return Of The Barracuda?
Not sure, but i hate it, we havent had much news from him as of late either .. !! but man, Guilty by affiliation really blew my mind. It had very few fillers (by fillers i mean tracks i may occasionally skip) but this is one of the few albums i CAN listen to from start to finish. Personal favorite.
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the entire "The Confessional" street album lol.
Yeah true. That was basically an Album that could have been released. and lets face it, as much as I like game, his energy, his bipolar egocentric attitude and his fanaticism of ''real'' hop hop, bishop touches various subject matters, Game is always on that ''California west coast 64 lolo Dr. Dre 50 cent Phantom Lil weezy jay z big tupac eazy gangsta shit.'' Im not saying that its bad :P, i got mad love for game and I'm a big fan of his (y'all know that right :P ?) but Bishop's content is definitely more original.
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
just pick a random song from game & and a random song from bishop and you'll hear the difference
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the entire "The Confessional" street album lol.
Yeah true. That was basically an Album that could have been released. and lets face it, as much as I like game, his energy, his bipolar egocentric attitude and his fanaticism of ''real'' hop hop, bishop touches various subject matters, Game is always on that ''California west coast 64 lolo Dr. Dre 50 cent Phantom Lil weezy jay z big tupac eazy gangsta shit.'' Im not saying that its bad :P, i got mad love for game and I'm a big fan of his (y'all know that right :P ?) but Bishop's content is definitely more original.
i highly respect your lack of stan-ism. 8)
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last personal classic for me would be The Jack Artist
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the entire "The Confessional" street album lol.
Yeah true. That was basically an Album that could have been released. and lets face it, as much as I like game, his energy, his bipolar egocentric attitude and his fanaticism of ''real'' hop hop, bishop touches various subject matters, Game is always on that ''California west coast 64 lolo Dr. Dre 50 cent Phantom Lil weezy jay z big tupac eazy gangsta shit.'' Im not saying that its bad :P, i got mad love for game and I'm a big fan of his (y'all know that right :P ?) but Bishop's content is definitely more original.
i highly respect your lack of stan-ism. 8)
yeah being a fan is cool :)
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i highly respect your lack of stan-ism. 8)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2d9cidi.jpg) 8)
yeah being a fan is cool :)
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I would have to say ...........no one in a long time other than Kurupt and Dre.
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i highly respect your lack of stan-ism. 8)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2d9cidi.jpg) 8)
yeah being a fan is cool :)
:cheers:
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Cheers ! :bandit:
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First thing that comes to mi mind is Streetz Iz A Mutha and 2001 those are pure classics, but I also agree with dudes who mentioned Mitchy Slick USS, Quiks Trauma, cant decide on Game yet tho.
PS. coming from a a true westcoast fan I also consider Bishops Nigger Noize and Confessional classic material and I cant go anywhere without copy of Crooked Is Young Boss 2.
Xzibit yall?
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
just pick a random song from game & and a random song from bishop and you'll hear the difference
such a random answer. Im not sayin Game is lyrically amazing. Im just questioning Bishop Lamont's lyrical skills.
what defines lyricism in your opinion? Not sayin Dre 88 times on an album?
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Blu & Exile- Below The Heavens
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Murs - 3:16 the 9th edition
Unbelievably underrated
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Xzibit yall?
personally, Weapons of Mass Destruction is a classic. 8)
Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
just pick a random song from game & and a random song from bishop and you'll hear the difference
what defines lyricism in your opinion? Not sayin Dre 88 times on an album?
well that never hurt. :D
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<<<<< Zion I - The Takeover is flawless aswell
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well that never hurt. :D
hehe. like my pic Cham ? ^^^^^^^ :laugh:
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well that never hurt. :D
hehe. like my pic Cham ? ^^^^^^^ :laugh:
shit is fresh; you gotta get your Game ass face in there & we got the trio. ;) ;D 8)
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shit is fresh; you gotta get your Game ass face in there & we got the trio. ;) ;D 8)
LMAO aight we'll work on that..not sure if i'd put a pic of star face, or a pianist ...
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Mitchy Slick - Urban Survival Syndrome
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damn suprised to see people mention bishop's releases but yeah they were mad dope
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Murs - 3:16 the 9th edition
Unbelievably underrated
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Start From Scratch, One Night, Ole Enlgish, Why You Hate The Game, Doctor's Advocate, Letter To King and that new track Better Days are all better than Can't Figure It Out. Bishop is not better than Game lyrically (about the same) plus his delivery is not on the same level. And all these mentioned tracks + Can't Figure It Out are great tracks imo but there's that small factor of delivery that nudges the advantage to Game.
lol NO WAY. say what you want about the delivery, but Bishop is much more lyrical than Game
post just one Bishop bar that blew your mind when you heard it.
just pick a random song from game & and a random song from bishop and you'll hear the difference
such a random answer. Im not sayin Game is lyrically amazing. Im just questioning Bishop Lamont's lyrical skills.
what defines lyricism in your opinion? Not sayin Dre 88 times on an album?
that's a start, lol