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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: R-Tistic on April 24, 2010, 03:42:12 AM
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http://vibe.com/posts/dj-toomp-talks-new-jay-z-kanye-albums-comments-producer-tournament-loss-dr-dre
Although Toomp lost early to Dr. Dre during the first round of VIBE's Greatest Producer Alive Tournament, he still shared his opinions on the competition.
"That’s great to put me with Dre. I’m very privileged. Shit, yall just put me up against a champ. I don’t know what the numbers were like, but I betcha I went out swinging," he says with a laugh.
"We both are great producers. He might have sold more records, but my discography is longer. You can give it to Dre on that lineup. I got way more joints out than a Shock Gee, more than Quik. Come on now. I will slaughter those guys careers for real. Name more than two songs produced."
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
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Hahah WTF
quik worst beat >>> toomps life
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never heard before of dj toomp....
seriously what has he done??
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I only know one track that he produced:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9AIzVtGk7I
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he's a very good producer, but anywhere near as good as quik, or with as many classic tracks to his name? you gotta be kidding...
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Why does everyone get so fucking butt hurt about shit like this,get over it.People are supposed to be confident about themselves.DJ Toomp has produced some great tracks and Im not saying hes better then quik but really who gives a shit.And if you havent heard of toomp you must be stuck in the 90s.
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he's a very good producer, but anywhere near as good as quik, or with as many classic tracks to his name? you gotta be kidding...
I agree. Anybody coming in here talking about "Who's DJ Toomp?" needs to go learn their hip-hop QUICK. Toomp has some classics under his belt no doubt.
Comparing him to DJ Quik though? lol
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'nuff said.
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he's a very good producer, but anywhere near as good as quik, or with as many classic tracks to his name? you gotta be kidding...
I agree. Anybody coming in here talking about "Who's DJ Toomp?" needs to go learn their hip-hop QUICK. Toomp has some classics under his belt no doubt.
Comparing him to DJ Quik though? lol
So why can't anybody just tell me "the classics" he produced?? i am just asking cause i don't know him. I don't know every hip hop producers.
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there's a great invention called google... u may've heard of it... ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Toomp
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start with T.I. - What U Know, G. Malone - Certified, and my personal favorite his co-production with Kanye West "Can't Tell Me Nothin".
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only those stuck in the mid-90s G Funk bubble will say "who is DJ Toomp" and think Shock or Quik are doing more than him today. Of course when it comes to longevity they have the upper hand though, they've been around longer...
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Just have a little respect, thats all.
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y'all shouldn't be so quik to knock Toomp. but yeah, Quik has a bigger body of work compared to Toomp with many more "classics" (whether personal or certified). So in the end yeah, Quik is the better man but Toomp is gettin' there tho.
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who the fuck is DJ Toomp?
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WHO THE FUCK IS DJ TOOMP. NEVER HEARD OF EM. Theses no-name having chumps think they can just talk out the side of their necks to give their own egos a boost LOL. SO stupid. And how do you even pronounce this guys name? Seems like the guy has a problem with english and spelling.
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The biggest joke of all is where he said his discog is longer than Dre's. LOL. see his google and this dude discog don't even add to 3% of Dres.
What's going on? It's this the era of these new cats are just becoming delusional? He got more than Dre, Nelly said he sold more record than Eminem, Rick Ross said he will outsell GZRODT/ended 50's career, Game thinks he gonna have a great album. THis generation is smoking heavy dust.
Oh the other part is where said he know he came out swinging against Dre in the polls before he lost. Dre wiped him at 91% to 8%. I'm telling ya, people have to see dude is just delusionial and full of cocky pride. This dude is a clown.
He good, but not all his stuff are special. As far classsics i don't see that he has enough, they're not to me but i guess for some he does. But he problem is how can you have classic that are just regional?
Dre, Quik are not regional producer, they're classic hip hop producers. Toomp is simply regional, that south stuff. Get a life toomp.
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WOW, most west coast fans are a joke asking who is DJ Toomp :o
but obviously he's not better than Quik lol.
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The biggest joke of all is where he said his discog is longer than Dre's. LOL. see his google and this dude discog don't even add to 3% of Dres.
What's going on? It's this the era of these new cats are just becoming delusional? He got more than Dre, Nelly said he sold more record than Eminem, Rick Ross said he will outsell GZRODT/ended 50's career, Game thinks he gonna have a great album. THis generation is smoking heavy dust.
Oh the other part is where said he know he came out swinging against Dre in the polls before he lost. Dre wiped him at 91% to 8%. I'm telling ya, people have to see dude is just delusionial and full of cocky pride. This dude is a clown.
He good, but not all his stuff are special. As far classsics i don't see that he has enough, they're not to me but i guess for some he does. But he problem is how can you have classic that are just regional?
Dre, Quik are not regional producer, they're classic hip hop producers. Toomp is simply regional, that south stuff. Get a life toomp.
Lol yeah everybody on the previous posts just commented on what he said about Quik and Shock G but nobody said anything about him comparing his quantity of productions to Dre's. Just because he produced songs for almost every southern commercial rapper doesn't mean that he has to be so ignorant.
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And if you havent heard of toomp you must be stuck in the 90s.
im pretty sure most posters here r bro but quik >>> tomp quik is a legend but tomp has made a bigger impact the last few years with bigg hits havta say dat
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HAHA U GOTT BE FUCKN KIDDN ME..NEVER EVEN HERD OF THIS CLOWN
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Disrespectful
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Quik is not a regional producer, he's a classic hip hop producer. Toomp is simply regional, that south stuff.
DJ Quik is regional, wtf are u talkin about. Quik has rarely made an appearance on anybody's track outside of California. I think he's only worked with Jay Z and maybe 1 or 2 other people lol. Toomp has went all throughtout the south tho (mainly ATL of course). I think he started/made a name for himself in Florida or some shit like that with Drum & Bass music, i forgot. But Toomp is definitely a regional producer tho. I don't wanna get in2 opinions but "Certified" was wack and sounded like a half done studio scrap beat for TI.
I think it's really a unanimous decision when it comes to skill and preference, he's got some ambition tho lol:
Dr. Dre >>>>>>> Toomp
DJ Quik >>>>>>> Toomp
Shock G = Toomp
"Humpty Hump", "Sex Packets", "Same Song", "Do Watcha' Like", "I Get Around", "Oregano Flow", and a couple more. Shock G got beats.
And that has nothing to do with my personal taste, it's simply a matter of showmanship.
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Toomp is a legend , come on dawg ... he ain't better than Quik but stop disrespecting the man.
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Why does everyone get so fucking butt hurt about shit like this,get over it.People are supposed to be confident about themselves.DJ Toomp has produced some great tracks and Im not saying hes better then quik but really who gives a shit.And if you havent heard of toomp you must be stuck in the 90s.
word.
cant believe somebody that listens to hip-hop doesnt know who dj toomp is..
He is dope. and so is Quik. so yeah. fuck this.
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Disrespectful
and ignorant as hell to boot....hey, be confident with your shit, but give respect where its due
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there's a great invention called google... u may've heard of it... ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Toomp
yeah i've googled it but it isn't really relevant. I don't really see where the CLASSICS are... maybe some cool songs but NOT classics.. some people should take it easy with the lengend word, he's just a producer in the game... and an arrogant man from now.
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this is why hip hop is generally wack, you got niggas like dj toomp saying they are better then legends and then you got the idiot sheep who believe it
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lol@west coast fans acting like they ain't heard no toomp beats get the fucc outta here hahahahaha, just because y'all succ dicc when a "known" west coast producer makes a beat don't mean that man ain't got talent, would i put him ahead of quik? no but i can't shit on his beats without being a hater, hell i like shocc g shit more then his too, but you got to believe in your work especially if you been making bangers and you have been the go to guy for one of the top "mainstream" artist ti in the game right now, hell his work alone on kayne's last good album should earn him some respect, i understand shit being a west coast site but some of y'all are crazy yell
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^ i dont think anyone believes toomp is better than quik. I think ppl are stupid for trying to discredit toomp's work and some not even hearing about him is pretty laughable and shows what a sad state west coast hip hop fans are in.
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WOW, most west coast fans are a joke asking who is DJ Toomp :o
I'm guessin' he has produced a lot of stuff for T.I. because of the title of this topic.
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WOW, most west coast fans are a joke asking who is DJ Toomp :o
I'm guessin' he has produced a lot of stuff for T.I. because of the title of this topic.
The title is stupid though. It's like saying "Snoop Dogg's producer Dr. Dre...." yes Toomp has produced a lot for T.I. (most of T.I.'s best music and some of his biggest hits) but no way should Toomp be called "T.I.'s producer" - he's produced for Game (which makes it extra funny that west coast fans haven't heard of him), Ludacris, Pastor Troy, Pitbull, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Jay-z, Young Buck, 8Ball & MJG, Bone Thugs, Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Nas, Glasses Malone, etc. etc.
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WOW, most west coast fans are a joke asking who is DJ Toomp :o
I'm guessin' he has produced a lot of stuff for T.I. because of the title of this topic.
The title is stupid though. It's like saying "Snoop Dogg's producer Dr. Dre...." yes Toomp has produced a lot for T.I. (most of T.I.'s best music and some of his biggest hits) but no way should Toomp be called "T.I.'s producer" - he's produced for Game (which makes it extra funny that west coast fans haven't heard of him), Ludacris, Pastor Troy, Pitbull, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Jay-z, Young Buck, 8Ball & MJG, Bone Thugs, Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Nas, Glasses Malone, etc. etc.
^^^that's networth my equal, also he produced for mc shy d bacc in the day ;D yell
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Toomp_discography
wack
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WHAT MAKES A LEGEND? please i'm listening close to this, toomp gave glasses one of his most known songs ever that alot of the west loved, gave leonard roberts a song where he spit some actually "real" shit on and you saying he's wacc klue? haha yell
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what a disgarce he is, hope he gets shot
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what a disgarce he is, hope he gets shot
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what a disgarce he is, hope he gets shot
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im just frustrated he said that lol
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some not even hearing about him is pretty laughable and shows what a sad state west coast hip hop fans are in.
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- he's produced for Game, Ludacris, Pastor Troy, Pitbull, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Jay-z, Young Buck, 8Ball & MJG, Bone Thugs, Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Nas, Glasses Malone, etc. etc.
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Now i understand why i have never heard of him. & why u act like he's westcoast producer?
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Nobody ever said he's a West Coast producer.
It's just a little weird how close minded West Coast fans can be that they can't recognize talent if it comes from another coast?
Again, Quik is way superior to Toomp, but to say Toomp is wack is just being ignorant.
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when quik dropped q4 which was the last time he was on the charts, his discography sales as artist/producer was already at 90 million (source - arista records). this was 1999 and i know from that time to now hes recieved a plaque or two so add on a couple more mill. plus we won't even know who toomp is in 10 years let alone 20 like quik.
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Disrespectful
and ignorant as hell to boot....hey, be confident with your shit, but give respect where its due
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quik >>>>>>>>>>> toomp
the ones who dont know who toomp is are the ones that are stuck in the past
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If you are asking who DJ Toomp is you are a complete idiot and dont belong in any hip hop discussions.
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i think the topic of the thread is about your boy toomp disrespecting quik & shock if im not mistaken. so now we have to give him props for making month records, here this month gone the next. plus i never said i didnt know who he was, u guys sure know alot about the south lol.
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i think the topic of the thread is about your boy toomp disrespecting quik & shock if im not mistaken. so now we have to give him props for making month records, here this month gone the next. plus i never said i didnt know who he was, u guys sure know alot about the south.
whats wrong wit knowin alot bout another region? im from the west and i know alot bout the south
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LOL I knew Toomp from back in the late 80s when he was producing for MC Shy-D so that right there makes him a legend.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Toomp_discography
Well, he has some dope beats but i don't like majority of his beats.
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i'm sure everybody here can make a list of 10 producers better than DJ Toomp.
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i'm sure everybody here can make a list of 10 producers better than DJ Toomp.
AS can most people make a list of 10 producers better then quik and shock g.Just not people on this forum,their stuck in the past.
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"whats wrong wit knowin alot bout another region? im from the west and i know alot bout the south"
nothing wrong with that and toomp has some good beats but this guy just said he slaughtered quik's career, and now we are talkin geography and disrespecting?
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"We both are great producers. He might have sold more records, but my discography is longer. You can give it to Dre on that lineup. I got way more joints out than a Shock Gee, more than Quik. Come on now. I will slaughter those guys careers for real. Name more than two songs produced
just L-O-L :D nuff said
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when quik dropped q4 which was the last time he was on the charts, his discography sales as artist/producer was already at 90 million (source - arista records). this was 1999 and i know from that time to now hes recieved a plaque or two so add on a couple more mill. plus we won't even know who toomp is in 10 years let alone 20 like quik.
you will know who toomp is and you will know who quik is,if you are truly a fan of hip hop you will know stop kid'n yo self yell
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i'm sure everybody here can make a list of 10 producers better than DJ Toomp.
AS can most people make a list of 10 producers better then quik and shock g.Just not people on this forum,their stuck in the past.
maybe Shock G, but i don't know about the Quiksterrr.
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Like i said go outside this forum.Quik is vastly over rated.
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Nobody ever said he's a West Coast producer.
It's just a little weird how close minded West Coast fans can be that they can't recognize talent if it comes from another coast?
Again, Quik is way superior to Toomp, but to say Toomp is wack is just being ignorant.
exactly, nobody ever said Quik is a west coast producer (me included, since I was accused of doing so apparently).
Exactly, it's about the close mindedness that is sad here.
Nima hit the nail on the head with everything here.
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it is cool when these threads come up ... u can see who the idiots are.
u listen to Hiphop but haven't heard of a producer who made hits for 10+ years in Toomp? ha
people say things to get noticed, to make noise, raise their profile ... true or not.
Toomp himself probably believes it, and thats fine too, good to have confidence in your own work.
Overall, of course Dre has him ... Quik has him, not sure about Shock G ... close one.
But if I was to hire a producer now on cost, talent and current form, Toomp would be close to the top of the list.
but hey, u guys keep being ignorant ... all good haha
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Like i said go outside this forum.Quik is vastly over rated.
*yawn* although this is somewhat subjective, there are not 10 hip-hop producers better than quik, let alone 5. really depends who you talk to. aside from west coast fans, it is the more knowledgable cats and especially production types who know full well who quik is and what he has done. more like vastly underrated.
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
i wouldn't really count influence on the rap 'game' or popularity as particulaly important factors. things like being an 'outstanding musician', creativity, diversity and all round engineering mastery would be my main considerations for a top producer. that along with my personal musical preferences, says the person with the quik avatar ;D
out of curiosity could you name who you consider to be the top 5 hip-hop producers jay? i have a feeling it wouldn't be anything like mine...
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Top five,honestly I dont really put too much time into lists or what not because music is so subjective it doesnt really matter.And I know sometimes my posts get miscontrued as hate,but often times I actually enjoy the artist I just cant stand the close minded people on this forum.Quik is a top five westcoast producer to me but not altogether.
Now for five off the top of my head Im going with Dre,Premo,J dilla,Neptunes,Timbaland.Those arent my top,just five people I believe easily ahead of quik.A jermaine dupri is ahead of quik,people like to hate on him but his longetivty and discocgraphy speak for themselves.
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what producers are worldwide, minus the given GOAT Dr. Dre?
i mean, your very average rap fan probably never knows who produces the beat to their favorite songs; they just like it.
i wouldn't be surprised if a small chunk believed that the artist who makes the song, makes the beat as well.
debating "whose better" in producing is more impossible than debating "whose better" in rapping.
for example, there could be a huge Southern rap fan here & say "so & so" makes the best beats ever, but i am not really down with your "true, down south" beat, so naturally i would disagree with him.
at least with rappers, we can attempt to compare words, whereas beats are just sounds that 110% vary from person to person.
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Top five,honestly I dont really put too much time into lists or what not because music is so subjective it doesnt really matter.And I know sometimes my posts get miscontrued as hate,but often times I actually enjoy the artist I just cant stand the close minded people on this forum.Quik is a top five westcoast producer to me but not altogether.
Now for five off the top of my head Im going with Dre,Premo,J dilla,Neptunes,Timbaland.Those arent my top,just five people I believe easily ahead of quik.A jermaine dupri is ahead of quik,people like to hate on him but his longetivty and discocgraphy speak for themselves.
ok surprisingly that's actually the same as mine, but with Quik replacing Dilla. Dilla would be in a top 10 though, along with Easy Mo Bee and some others. not JD though..
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damn some of you got personally offended by this shit, who cares who the guy thinks hes better than
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what producers are worldwide, minus the given GOAT Dr. Dre?
i mean, your very average rap fan probably never knows who produces the beat to their favorite songs; they just like it.
i wouldn't be surprised if a small chunk believed that the artist who makes the song, makes the beat as well.
debating "whose better" in producing is more impossible than debating "whose better" in rapping.
for example, there could be a huge Southern rap fan here & say "so & so" makes the best beats ever, but i am not really down with your "true, down south" beat, so naturally i would disagree with him.
at least with rappers, we can attempt to compare words, whereas beats are just sounds that 110% vary from person to person.
what producers are worldwide? well definitely The Neptunes and Timbaland for starters. and is comparing producers more subjective than rappers? not sure, but talking about such things is one of the main reasons for being on a message board, no?
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WOW, most west coast fans are a joke asking who is DJ Toomp :o
I'm guessin' he has produced a lot of stuff for T.I. because of the title of this topic.
The title is stupid though. It's like saying "Snoop Dogg's producer Dr. Dre...." yes Toomp has produced a lot for T.I. (most of T.I.'s best music and some of his biggest hits) but no way should Toomp be called "T.I.'s producer" - he's produced for Game (which makes it extra funny that west coast fans haven't heard of him), Ludacris, Pastor Troy, Pitbull, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Jay-z, Young Buck, 8Ball & MJG, Bone Thugs, Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Nas, Glasses Malone, etc. etc.
i like that beat actually! 8)
though it sounds very similar to NWA's Real Niggaz Don't Die
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Over the last 10 years Toomp has produced more hits and bigger records and he works with bigger names. I'd say he's the bigger producer.
Quik has produced some gems though for Janet Jackson, 2Pac, Jay Z
Styles wise, I love Quik 100 % more.
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I AM ANGERED BY A STRANGERS' OPINION AND WILL VOICE MY CONCERN ON THE INTERNET.
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this is why hip hop is generally wack, you got niggas like dj toomp saying they are better then legends and then you got the idiot sheep who believe it
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
Didnd't Quik himself said in an interview, that Dre actually produced the record ?
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Jermaine Dupri has a much bigger and much more succesfull career as a producer then quik.Hell even kanye west in his short time has passed quik.Id put just blaze ahead of him as well.
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This has to be judged on HIT records.
What Billboard hits has Quik produced?
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
Didnd't Quik himself said in an interview, that Dre actually produced the record ?
i dunno you got a link to that? i would of thought a co-production would be more likely if anything, quik had already used the same drum loop on a AMG track.
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
Didnd't Quik himself said in an interview, that Dre actually produced the record ?
I remember somethin' like this too when they got hit with the lawsuit.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/F2_iG2A46tE&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
not only ignorant but blind as well?
maybe click on the link in the post above yours ...
on a Hiphop forum and haven't heard a Toomp beat ... seriously.
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I genuinly don't find any of Toomps productions mind blowing.
I suppose I'm being closed minded. ::)
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Toomp has some classics but not as many as Quik.
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
Didnd't Quik himself said in an interview, that Dre actually produced the record ?
I remember somethin' like this too when they got hit with the lawsuit.
aren't you guys confusing it with the remix?
I genuinly don't find any of Toomps productions mind blowing.
I suppose I'm being closed minded. ::)
lol, let's put this bullshit to rest
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aren't you guys confusing it with the remix?
Nah, the lawsuit was over the original version. I remember readin' somewhere that it really was produced by Dre and Quik didn't even get sued.
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i know that the lawsuit was about the original, but i always thought DJ Quik produced it.
then again, i don't know all the details about the lawsuit
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i know that the lawsuit was about the original, but i always thought DJ Quik produced it.
Yeah, that's what it says on the credits.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=4939.0
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LOL, some people throw the term "classic" around easily...
In ten years time no one is gonna be talking about a Toomp beat as a classic, while Shock G and Quik have albums that are considered stone cold Hip-Hop classics which they front to back produced, and named in books and shit as two of the best to ever do it.
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I genuinly don't find any of Toomps productions mind blowing.
I suppose I'm being closed minded. ::)
yeah its really not the type of production i could repeat over and over again.
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Quik is an outstanding musiican,but as a producer he isnt top 10.What has he done in the game to warrant a top ten claim?Yes hes got his own discography and he was a great regional person,but quik isnt worldwide,quik didnt effect the rap game.
ok that's maybe one area where you can say quik hasn't reached his full potential, although i would argue he has his share of international hits and longevity. most people probably wouldn't even know he produced what is probably his biggest mainstream hit (addictive).
Didnd't Quik himself said in an interview, that Dre actually produced the record ?
I remember somethin' like this too when they got hit with the lawsuit.
Yep. As far as the link goes, that interview is old, like 03, 04. I remember it was posted here, maybe from westcoast2k.net.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/F2_iG2A46tE&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0
LOL, clicked this link, saw what "#10" was & stopped.
Quik's 40th best beat is better than that lol. :laugh:
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what producers are worldwide, minus the given GOAT Dr. Dre?
i mean, your very average rap fan probably never knows who produces the beat to their favorite songs; they just like it.
i wouldn't be surprised if a small chunk believed that the artist who makes the song, makes the beat as well.
debating "whose better" in producing is more impossible than debating "whose better" in rapping.
for example, there could be a huge Southern rap fan here & say "so & so" makes the best beats ever, but i am not really down with your "true, down south" beat, so naturally i would disagree with him.
at least with rappers, we can attempt to compare words, whereas beats are just sounds that 110% vary from person to person.
what producers are worldwide? well definitely The Neptunes and Timbaland for starters. and is comparing producers more subjective than rappers? not sure, but talking about such things is one of the main reasons for being on a message board, no?
yeah, i'd say Timbaland is worldwide; but i don't know about The Neptunes.
you're talking to guys on a message board who ask everytime a song drops who the producer is; the average guy listening to the radio rarely would ever ponder as to who produced the beat.
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Thoomp and Quik have two completely different sounds...why compare the two??? i am biased, but quik's beats and albums i will listen to forever..the DJ Toomp songs in that youtube clip top 10...ill never listen to again after a few spins...
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Quik is not a regional producer, he's a classic hip hop producer. Toomp is simply regional, that south stuff.
DJ Quik is regional, wtf are u talkin about. Quik has rarely made an appearance on anybody's track outside of California. I think he's only worked with Jay Z and maybe 1 or 2 other people lol. Toomp has went all throughtout the south tho (mainly ATL of course). I think he started/made a name for himself in Florida or some shit like that with Drum & Bass music, i forgot. But Toomp is definitely a regional producer tho. I don't wanna get in2 opinions but "Certified" was wack and sounded like a half done studio scrap beat for TI.
I think it's really a unanimous decision when it comes to skill and preference, he's got some ambition tho lol:
Dr. Dre >>>>>>> Toomp
DJ Quik >>>>>>> Toomp
Shock G = Toomp
"Humpty Hump", "Sex Packets", "Same Song", "Do Watcha' Like", "I Get Around", "Oregano Flow", and a couple more. Shock G got beats.
And that has nothing to do with my personal taste, it's simply a matter of showmanship.
I can agree with Quik being regional but oddly he is internationally known. Reason I can say he was not regional is because Quik sound is musical, musically universal when you think about it. Toomp sounds is mainly South and only when an outside artist want to do a south track it seems like it worked. lol. but he didn't some out the box stuff for him.
Yet Quik >>> Toomp any day. Way more talent. Honestly, I see Toomp above average ok but not an incredible talent.
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LOL, some people throw the term "classic" around easily...
In ten years time no one is gonna be talking about a Toomp beat as a classic, while Shock G and Quik have albums that are considered stone cold Hip-Hop classics which they front to back produced, and named in books and shit as two of the best to ever do it.
The word classic is like confetti during new years day at 12:00 when it comes to hip hop. Heck, it ain't even been enough time to consider anything Toomp done timeless/classic.
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
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i wanna know if someone came on here and said they never liked a quik beat and don't think he's a great producer what would west coast fans say? yell
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battlecat>>>>Toomp
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i wanna know if someone came on here and said they never liked a quik beat and don't think he's a great producer what would west coast fans say? yell
also makes me wonder why would someone who is not a big fan of west coast music would be posting on a specifically west coast forum in the first place.
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i wanna know if someone came on here and said they never liked a quik beat and don't think he's a great producer what would west coast fans say? yell
also makes me wonder why would someone who is not a big fan of west coast music would be posting on a specifically west coast forum in the first place.
exactly. This is a west coast rap forum...the only reason I come here. I don't visit hip hop forums. I know all about west coast rap, and that is what I like. I really have no desire for most the other stuff.
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what producers are worldwide, minus the given GOAT Dr. Dre?
i mean, your very average rap fan probably never knows who produces the beat to their favorite songs; they just like it.
i wouldn't be surprised if a small chunk believed that the artist who makes the song, makes the beat as well.
debating "whose better" in producing is more impossible than debating "whose better" in rapping.
for example, there could be a huge Southern rap fan here & say "so & so" makes the best beats ever, but i am not really down with your "true, down south" beat, so naturally i would disagree with him.
at least with rappers, we can attempt to compare words, whereas beats are just sounds that 110% vary from person to person.
what producers are worldwide? well definitely The Neptunes and Timbaland for starters. and is comparing producers more subjective than rappers? not sure, but talking about such things is one of the main reasons for being on a message board, no?
yeah, i'd say Timbaland is worldwide; but i don't know about The Neptunes.
you're talking to guys on a message board who ask everytime a song drops who the producer is; the average guy listening to the radio rarely would ever ponder as to who produced the beat.
The Neptunes are most definitely worldwide. Justified sold more than 7 million copies. But everyone knows who Pharrell is from the countless video appearances and international hit singles produced by/featuring him.
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
Why is that sad? You are just simply ignorant. I listen to all kinds of genres of music, not just rap. Why would I listen to music that I don't like? Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean everyone likes it.
Do you listen to the Eagles, Doors, Sublime, Bob Marley, Prince, Funkadelic, Social Distortion, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Beatles, Michael jackson, George Clinton, Tina marie, The Time, Metallica, Offspring. If you don't listen to every one of those bands then I declare you a sad pathetic human being.
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
Why is that sad? You are just simply ignorant. I listen to all kinds of genres of music, not just rap. Why would I listen to music that I don't like? Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean everyone likes it.
Do you listen to the Eagles, Doors, Sublime, Bob Marley, Prince, Funkadelic, Social Distortion, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Beatles, Michael jackson, George Clinton, Tina marie, The Time, Metallica, Offspring. If you don't listen to every one of those bands then I declare you a sad pathetic human being.
no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes, yes
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
Why is that sad? You are just simply ignorant. I listen to all kinds of genres of music, not just rap. Why would I listen to music that I don't like? Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean everyone likes it.
Do you listen to the Eagles, Doors, Sublime, Bob Marley, Prince, Funkadelic, Social Distortion, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Beatles, Michael jackson, George Clinton, Tina marie, The Time, Metallica, Offspring. If you don't listen to every one of those bands then I declare you a sad pathetic human being.
no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes, yes
Flat out sad. Matter of fact, if you don't listen to EVERY single person in the entire world who makes music, you are flat out pathetic. Open your ears more man, I mean why not spend every minute of your time listening to music - especially music that you don't like. That way you can go around boasting about how you listen to EVERYTHING, just because you care so much about what people think of you. After all, if you are not listening to the latest radio hits then you must be stuck in the past right?
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
Why is that sad? You are just simply ignorant. I listen to all kinds of genres of music, not just rap. Why would I listen to music that I don't like? Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean everyone likes it.
Do you listen to the Eagles, Doors, Sublime, Bob Marley, Prince, Funkadelic, Social Distortion, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Beatles, Michael jackson, George Clinton, Tina marie, The Time, Metallica, Offspring. If you don't listen to every one of those bands then I declare you a sad pathetic human being.
no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes, yes
Flat out sad. Matter of fact, if you don't listen to EVERY single person in the entire world who makes music, you are flat out pathetic. Open your ears more man, I mean why not spend every minute of your time listening to music - especially music that you don't like. That way you can go around boasting about how you listen to EVERYTHING, just because you care so much about what people think of you. After all, if you are not listening to the latest radio hits then you must be stuck in the past right?
i see you that 95% of rap music you listen to is west coast bitch i am from LA you dont see me cryin bout tupac leaks or nuttin all over myself bout death row i listen to everyone from B.o.B. to andre nickatina to system of a down to k-ci and jojo so fuck you you whiny ass bitch
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Never heard of him. However when it comes to rap music 95% of what I listen to is 90's west coast rap. Aside from scarface, 8ball &mjg, UGK, outkast, geto boys, devin, bone, do or die, twista, nas, biggie, wu tang, onyx, and maybe a dozen others, I don't listen to a whole lot outside the west coast. And for the most part, anyone who dropped their debut album after 2000, I really don't ever listen to them. I have never heard a TI song other than one that he has done w/ daz, and the Dr Dre topless song. I have probably heard him in the club but I would have no idea who it is.
thats sad
Why is that sad? You are just simply ignorant. I listen to all kinds of genres of music, not just rap. Why would I listen to music that I don't like? Just because YOU like it, doesn't mean everyone likes it.
Do you listen to the Eagles, Doors, Sublime, Bob Marley, Prince, Funkadelic, Social Distortion, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Beatles, Michael jackson, George Clinton, Tina marie, The Time, Metallica, Offspring. If you don't listen to every one of those bands then I declare you a sad pathetic human being.
no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, no, yes, yes
Flat out sad. Matter of fact, if you don't listen to EVERY single person in the entire world who makes music, you are flat out pathetic. Open your ears more man, I mean why not spend every minute of your time listening to music - especially music that you don't like. That way you can go around boasting about how you listen to EVERYTHING, just because you care so much about what people think of you. After all, if you are not listening to the latest radio hits then you must be stuck in the past right?
i see you that 95% of rap music you listen to is west coast bitch i am from LA you dont see me cryin bout tupac leaks or nuttin all over myself bout death row i listen to everyone from B.o.B. to andre nickatina to system of a down to k-ci and jojo so fuck you you whiny ass bitch
I don't give a fuck who you listen to you dumb idiot. My point is, why would I listen to bullshit music that I don't like? Do you eat food that you don't like? Do you watch movies that you don't like? Do you wear clothes that you don't like? Do you watch sports that you don't like? Do you suck cock that you don't like?
I'm guessing you would answer yes to all of those questions, but I would answer no to all of them.
I never understood the whole argument about how if you don't listen to so and so then you are close minded, or you are stuck in the past, or you are sad. But then again, the reason that I probably don't understand that argument is because I am a very logical guy. I listen to music that I like, plain and simple. I'd much rather be labeled by wcc retards as stuck in the past rather then listen to crappy music that i can't stand.
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i wanna know if someone came on here and said they never liked a quik beat and don't think he's a great producer what would west coast fans say? yell
also makes me wonder why would someone who is not a big fan of west coast music would be posting on a specifically west coast forum in the first place.
exactly. This is a west coast rap forum...the only reason I come here. I don't visit hip hop forums. I know all about west coast rap, and that is what I like. I really have no desire for most the other stuff.
well if you don't listen to toomp you can't speak about his music,why even comment on him saying his work is better then quiks? ain't no need to keep dialogue going yell
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
what you know (t.i.), 24s (t.i.), good life and cant tell me nothing (kanye), HOUSE OF PAIN (THE GAME), wish you would (luda) just some of his big hits you might of heard of
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i wanna know if someone came on here and said they never liked a quik beat and don't think he's a great producer what would west coast fans say? yell
also makes me wonder why would someone who is not a big fan of west coast music would be posting on a specifically west coast forum in the first place.
exactly. This is a west coast rap forum...the only reason I come here. I don't visit hip hop forums. I know all about west coast rap, and that is what I like. I really have no desire for most the other stuff.
well if you don't listen to toomp you can't speak about his music,why even comment on him saying his work is better then quiks? ain't no need to keep dialogue going yell
I never commented on his work...I said I never heard of him before.
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this is as bad as the ice cube beef bullshit recently. WHO FUCKIN CARES
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this is as bad as the ice cube beef bullshit recently. WHO FUCKIN CARES
You mention any name of a westcoast artist from the 90s in a negative light and everyone here gets so butt hurt.I swear 90 percent of the people on this forum have to be women.
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this is as bad as the ice cube beef bullshit recently. WHO FUCKIN CARES
You mention any name of a westcoast artist from the 90s in a negative light and everyone here gets so butt hurt.I swear 90 percent of the people on this forum have to be women.
yeah i really dont get it, especially when you consider how many of them arent from the west coast or even america at that
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I AM ANGERED BY A STRANGERS' OPINION AND WILL VOICE MY CONCERN ON THE INTERNET.
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I can't even name any beats from DJ Toomp.
what you know (t.i.), 24s (t.i.), good life and cant tell me nothing (kanye), HOUSE OF PAIN (THE GAME), wish you would (luda) just some of his big hits you might of heard of
according to wikipedia those are basically his only hits.
I don't listen to T.I., didn't like that song with Luda, so basically he's produced 3 songs I like. I wouldn't call any of them classics though. How is dude a legend again? I'm not saying dude is straight wack, but he hasn't accomplished anything aside from some forgettable pop hits. Why are people on his forum calling him a legend?
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legends
Primo
Prince Paul
Dre
Marley Marl
Pete Rock
Dilla
RZA
Dan the Automator
Madlib
Havoc
these are the ones we should be talking about, producers who have actually made some classic beats, not some producer who's made a couple of pop hits the last few years. Lets be honest, can you actually listen to one of his singles and call the beat itself classic?
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Again, DJ Quik is probably tied with Dre as my fav producer of all time. He's one of the most talented musicians in rap no doubt and Toomp is nowhere bear his level (even though he's dope).
Btw, if you never listened to T.I., you're missing out! To me he's the most skilled "mainstream" rapper, his catalogue speaks for itself. Im sure West Coast fans would dig a lot of his stuff.
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lol at him namin shock g tho
but quik...damn he wants some cooked beef as if heres what they think about you wasnt enuff