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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 24, 2010, 11:01:37 PM
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Hahah, shit had me cracking up
http://www.youtube.com/v/XdDE1QMA4ek
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whats this footage from? 8)
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LOL. nice
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wat song were they talkin bout?
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wat song were they talkin bout?
Approach To Danger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFfdlHy6Qs&feature=related
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LOL!
also, sounds like Dre was trying to make an early g-funk beat and Eazy was not feeling the whistle. haha
whats this footage from? 8)
Niggaz4Life: The Only Home Video
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LMAO this shit is funny.
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that was interesting
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4 those who didn't think E did shit
he had his hand in everything producing writing
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good shit right here yell
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Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
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Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
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he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
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he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since leaving Ruthless.
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but they are better than makin wack muzik....above the law at its rawest form will "murder rap" most other rap groups
who are eazy e's former employees?
he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since leaving Ruthless.
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he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since never.
fixed. Who from the Ruthless camp was ever successful besides Bone?
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
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but they are better than makin wack muzik....above the law at its rawest form will "murder rap" most other rap groups
who are eazy e's former employees?
he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
By "former employees" I just meant artist formerly signed to Ruthless Records, while Eazy was in charge.
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since leaving Ruthless.
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Eazy was dat NIGGA FUCK WHA Y'ALL SUCKAZ TALKIN BOUT
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Dre in the studio making music?
I don't buy it
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
not taking Dr. Dre out of the equation
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Dre in the studio making music?
I don't buy it
don't worry, it's old footage
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Dre in the studio making music?
I don't buy it
don't worry, it's old footage
Thank God, I almost fled to the bombshelter
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
All of which fell off hard after losing contact with dre
Michelle second album failed 2 garner any hits
the DOC vocals were ripped up horribly so he got it bad via freak accident
ATL lol they can't even get Proper Credit for there work towards G-Funk. lol
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
not taking Dr. Dre out of the equation
sure, but Dre wasn't the only reason they all went platinum with their debut albums.
anyway, since you want a better answer, MC Ren.
Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
All of which fell off hard after losing contact with dre
Michelle second album failed 2 garner any hits
the DOC vocals were ripped up horribly so he got it bad via freak accident
ATL lol they can't even get Proper Credit for there work towards G-Funk. lol
Helter Skelter wasn't certified gold but the numbers weren't that bad.
neither was the quality of the album.
if it was up to Dre, The D.O.C. would have had only 1 album & some skits.
Dre gave bad advice for The D.O.C.'s career.
look, accident or no accident, i doubt The D.O.C. could have been a big star.
but even with the current voice he could have done more with his career
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he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since never.
fixed. Who from the Ruthless camp was ever successful besides Bone?
Will.I.Am 8)
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he didnt and his former employees will agree...lol
Just because he had his hand in everything, doesn't mean he knew what the hell he was doing.
true. diddy had his hand in pretty much everything that happened at bad boy, but its difficult to tell if he actually made the music better.
Maybe. But if you take Dr. Dre and Ice Cube out of the equation, most of Eazy's former employees also haven't been successful since never.
fixed. Who from the Ruthless camp was ever successful besides Bone?
Will.I.Am 8)
Lol. Good answer. But I did say "most." There definitely were a few exceptions such as Will.I.Am. In fact, I have to say Atban Klan didn't really gain any success on Ruthless, so them leaving the label actually did make sense. But being signed to Ruthless probably helped them get their foot in the door, so to speak.
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Lol c'mon Dre Day you're not seriously gonna blame D.O.C.'s career on Dre? He fucked it up himself by not going to vocal therapy after the accident. With the voice in its current state there was no real chance of him having a commercial career again, what he did was probably the best he could have done considering his voice
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Lol c'mon Dre Day you're not seriously gonna blame D.O.C.'s career on Dre? He fucked it up himself by not going to vocal therapy after the accident. With the voice in its current state there was no real chance of him having a commercial career again, what he did was probably the best he could have done considering his voice
no, i said advice.
with a few exceptions here and there, The D.O.C. is very loyal to Dre.
off course The D.O.C. makes the final call, but Dre does have a lot of influence on The D.O.C's choices.
the drugs & alcohol problem is obviously The D.O.C.'s problem, no argument there.
no real chance of a career?
Helter Skelter was backed by a major label & The D.O.C. had the opportunity to drop a follow up to that album on the same label, but he ruined it.
so don't tell me he didn't have a real chance, because that's bullshit.
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
not taking Dr. Dre out of the equation
sure, but Dre wasn't the only reason they all went platinum with their debut albums.
Probably not the only reason, but he was the core force behind their success, even Jerry Heller acknowledges this
anyway, since you want a better answer, MC Ren.
There's one, but his success lies because he was a core member of N.W.A, the biggest group at the time, not because he was signed to Ruthless. He released a few albums on Ruthless, but Eazy E had no hand in making them. I'm thinking more in terms of what Eazy, without any aid from the ones who made him a star, actually did for the music.
I've always seen Eazy E as being the equivalent of Suge Knight. He was the owner of the label, the one who put money into it, but creatively he did almost jack towards the music.
Helter Skelter wasn't certified gold but the numbers weren't that bad.
neither was the quality of the album.
if it was up to Dre, The D.O.C. would have had only 1 album & some skits.
Dre gave bad advice for The D.O.C.'s career.
look, accident or no accident, i doubt The D.O.C. could have been a big star.
but even with the current voice he could have done more with his career
The numbers weren't bad? What were they, pray tell? From what I remember it was a commercial and critical failure. I'm surprised to find anyone that thinks the D.O.C.'s voice could hold a candle to what it used to, much less hold down an album. To me his strongest asset was always his smooth, elegant flow, which he completely lost. In my opinion his two album releases with his fucked up voice only hurt his career, didn't help it. Dr. Dre made the right decision, even if it was putting down his friend.
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
not taking Dr. Dre out of the equation
sure, but Dre wasn't the only reason they all went platinum with their debut albums.
Probably not the only reason, but he was the core force behind their success, even Jerry Heller acknowledges this
anyway, since you want a better answer, MC Ren.
There's one, but his success lies because he was a core member of N.W.A, the biggest group at the time, not because he was signed to Ruthless. He released a few albums on Ruthless, but Eazy E had no hand in making them. I'm thinking more in terms of what Eazy, without any aid from the ones who made him a star, actually did for the music.
I've always seen Eazy E as being the equivalent of Suge Knight. He was the owner of the label, the one who put money into it, but creatively he did almost jack towards the music.
Helter Skelter wasn't certified gold but the numbers weren't that bad.
neither was the quality of the album.
if it was up to Dre, The D.O.C. would have had only 1 album & some skits.
Dre gave bad advice for The D.O.C.'s career.
look, accident or no accident, i doubt The D.O.C. could have been a big star.
but even with the current voice he could have done more with his career
The numbers weren't bad? What were they, pray tell? From what I remember it was a commercial and critical failure. I'm surprised to find anyone that thinks the D.O.C.'s voice could hold a candle to what it used to, much less hold down an album. To me his strongest asset was always his smooth, elegant flow, which he completely lost. In my opinion his two album releases with his fucked up voice only hurt his career, didn't help it. Dr. Dre made the right decision, even if it was putting down his friend.
i don't know, but either The D.O.C. or Erotic D said it sold 300.000 units.
look, the voice is just a matter of taste: to me there's rappers that didn't have an accident who sound a lot worse than The D.O.C.
the voice isn't very loud, but with today's technology that's not an issue.
i'd say a solid fanbase is more important than stardom, but i guess you don't.
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No, what's important is being able to release good music. His vocals were fucked up and his flow was shit. That album tarnished the memory of how he was on No One Can Do It Better, because we saw how actually a lot of people could do it better now. I'm kinda lolling at you being able to sit back and bob your head listening to his scratchy ass faint voice.
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he released good music, but you obviously disagree.
brand new voice, your choice
luckily not everyone agrees with you, otherwise the studio sessions would have been a waste ;)
i don't mind that you're laughing at me, cause i understand that the voice is something else.
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Michelle, The D.O.C. Above The Law
not taking Dr. Dre out of the equation
sure, but Dre wasn't the only reason they all went platinum with their debut albums.
Probably not the only reason, but he was the core force behind their success, even Jerry Heller acknowledges this
anyway, since you want a better answer, MC Ren.
There's one, but his success lies because he was a core member of N.W.A, the biggest group at the time, not because he was signed to Ruthless. He released a few albums on Ruthless, but Eazy E had no hand in making them. I'm thinking more in terms of what Eazy, without any aid from the ones who made him a star, actually did for the music.
I've always seen Eazy E as being the equivalent of Suge Knight. He was the owner of the label, the one who put money into it, but creatively he did almost jack towards the music.
Helter Skelter wasn't certified gold but the numbers weren't that bad.
neither was the quality of the album.
if it was up to Dre, The D.O.C. would have had only 1 album & some skits.
Dre gave bad advice for The D.O.C.'s career.
look, accident or no accident, i doubt The D.O.C. could have been a big star.
but even with the current voice he could have done more with his career
The numbers weren't bad? What were they, pray tell? From what I remember it was a commercial and critical failure. I'm surprised to find anyone that thinks the D.O.C.'s voice could hold a candle to what it used to, much less hold down an album. To me his strongest asset was always his smooth, elegant flow, which he completely lost. In my opinion his two album releases with his fucked up voice only hurt his career, didn't help it. Dr. Dre made the right decision, even if it was putting down his friend.
We can't really know that for sure. That's a guess, at best.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
true
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
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no real chance of a career?
Helter Skelter was backed by a major label & The D.O.C. had the opportunity to drop a follow up to that album on the same label, but he ruined it.
so don't tell me he didn't have a real chance, because that's bullshit.
I didn't say he never got the opportunity to have a major label career, but that even with all the backing in the world and an album full of Dre beats, with his voice the way it was, only hard core fans could get into it. Hence, no chance of a commercial career ;)
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classic ;D
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
In the beginning of his career he didn't wrote... Ice Cube and MC Ren did it for him (except for his Fuck The Police verse... he did write that one!!!). When time moved on he began to write his own rhymes (sometimes with the help of Dirty Red, BGKO and Dre'sta)! He did wrote rhymes for It's On (not all of them), and also the majority of Str8 Off Tha Streetz...
This has been confirmed by multiple sources over the years.... so give the man the credit he deserves!!!
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
yeah Rapsodie is acting like a politician.
truth is, Eazy-E was creatively involved with the music.
no real chance of a career?
Helter Skelter was backed by a major label & The D.O.C. had the opportunity to drop a follow up to that album on the same label, but he ruined it.
so don't tell me he didn't have a real chance, because that's bullshit.
I didn't say he never got the opportunity to have a major label career, but that even with all the backing in the world and an album full of Dre beats, with his voice the way it was, only hard core fans could get into it. Hence, no chance of a commercial career ;)
well i'm sure he can eat from it.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
yeah Rapsodie is acting like a politician.
truth is, Eazy-E was creatively involved with the music.
no real chance of a career?
Helter Skelter was backed by a major label & The D.O.C. had the opportunity to drop a follow up to that album on the same label, but he ruined it.
so don't tell me he didn't have a real chance, because that's bullshit.
I didn't say he never got the opportunity to have a major label career, but that even with all the backing in the world and an album full of Dre beats, with his voice the way it was, only hard core fans could get into it. Hence, no chance of a commercial career ;)
well i'm sure he can eat from it.
lol Well Dub has found DOCs Dick Rider of the forum.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
lol I haven't had the cd booklets for most of my cds for a long time. But I know he didn't write his own shit on the N.W.A. albums and Eazy Duz It. As for his post-N.W.A. shit, I'm pretty sure someone else was given credit for writing. If you can prove he wrote some of his post-N.W.A., I'd be interested to see it.
As for the interview, i actually read that. Where he claimed he and Ren came up with Just Don't Bite It, a track that Dre and Yella were given production credit for? Now how does that make sense? He claims to have produced Approach to Danger, a track that Dre is shown making in the only home video. :D
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
lol I haven't had the cd booklets for most of my cds for a long time. But I know he didn't write his own shit on the N.W.A. albums and Eazy Duz It. As for his post-N.W.A. shit, I'm pretty sure someone else was given credit for writing. If you can prove he wrote some of his post-N.W.A., I'd be interested to see it.
As for the interview, i actually read that. Where he claimed he and Ren came up with Just Don't Bite It, a track that Dre and Yella were given production credit for? Now how does that make sense? He claims to have produced Approach to Danger, a track that Dre is shown making in the only home video. :D
You are correct that Eazy did not write his early rhymes. It was never Eazy's intention to be a rapper. Dre talked him into it. So of course, someone just starting out with no prior experience is going to need help with his lyrics. Ice Cube, D.O.C., and MC Ren wrote the majority of "Eazy Duz It" and they're given credit for that. But no where have I ever seen or read anyone make the claim that Eazy never wrote lyrics. You're making the assumption that because he did not not write early on, he never wrote. He's given credit for writing or co-writing songs on "It's On Dr. Dre (187um Killa!) and "Str8 off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin' Comption."
As far as Eazy's work as a producer, I have no idea why he says he and Ren produced "Just Don't Bite It" when Dre and Yella are given the credit. But if he was going to lie about it, I seriously doubt he would arbitrarily pick out one track to take credit for when he could just as easily lie about producing multiple tracks.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
lol I haven't had the cd booklets for most of my cds for a long time. But I know he didn't write his own shit on the N.W.A. albums and Eazy Duz It. As for his post-N.W.A. shit, I'm pretty sure someone else was given credit for writing. If you can prove he wrote some of his post-N.W.A., I'd be interested to see it.
As for the interview, i actually read that. Where he claimed he and Ren came up with Just Don't Bite It, a track that Dre and Yella were given production credit for? Now how does that make sense? He claims to have produced Approach to Danger, a track that Dre is shown making in the only home video. :D
You are correct that Eazy did not write his early rhymes. It was never Eazy's intention to be a rapper. Dre talked him into it. So of course, someone just starting out with no prior experience is going to need help with his lyrics. Ice Cube, D.O.C., and MC Ren wrote the majority of "Eazy Duz It" and they're given credit for that. But no where have I ever seen or read anyone make the claim that Eazy never wrote lyrics. You're making the assumption that because he did not not write early on, he never wrote. He's given credit for writing or co-writing songs on "It's On Dr. Dre (187um Killa!) and "Str8 off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin' Comption."
As far as Eazy's work as a producer, I have no idea why he says he and Ren produced "Just Don't Bite It" when Dre and Yella are given the credit. But if he was going to lie about it, I seriously doubt he would arbitrarily pick out one track to take credit for when he could just as easily lie about producing multiple tracks.
I've always wondered who took on the ghostwriting after the D.O.C. left, no one seems to know but if there's any proof that Eazy started writing I'd like to see it. I lost my album booklets a long time ago so I can't exactly verify it from there.
I take it when Eazy says he and Ren "produced" a song that they may have had some part in the making of the track. Like perhaps Eazy came up with the line "Don't matter Just Don't Bite It." But Dre is still the one who produced the track. I mean, Eazy claims to have produced Approach to Danger but there's a video of Dre in the studio putting it together. That doesn't qualify him or Ren as producers, just as guys in the studio who may have given a couple suggestions to Dre. I mean damn, the video I originally posted shows him arguing with Dre about the placement of sirens. But Eazy as a producer? Hell no.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
lol I haven't had the cd booklets for most of my cds for a long time. But I know he didn't write his own shit on the N.W.A. albums and Eazy Duz It. As for his post-N.W.A. shit, I'm pretty sure someone else was given credit for writing. If you can prove he wrote some of his post-N.W.A., I'd be interested to see it.
As for the interview, i actually read that. Where he claimed he and Ren came up with Just Don't Bite It, a track that Dre and Yella were given production credit for? Now how does that make sense? He claims to have produced Approach to Danger, a track that Dre is shown making in the only home video. :D
You are correct that Eazy did not write his early rhymes. It was never Eazy's intention to be a rapper. Dre talked him into it. So of course, someone just starting out with no prior experience is going to need help with his lyrics. Ice Cube, D.O.C., and MC Ren wrote the majority of "Eazy Duz It" and they're given credit for that. But no where have I ever seen or read anyone make the claim that Eazy never wrote lyrics. You're making the assumption that because he did not not write early on, he never wrote. He's given credit for writing or co-writing songs on "It's On Dr. Dre (187um Killa!) and "Str8 off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin' Comption."
As far as Eazy's work as a producer, I have no idea why he says he and Ren produced "Just Don't Bite It" when Dre and Yella are given the credit. But if he was going to lie about it, I seriously doubt he would arbitrarily pick out one track to take credit for when he could just as easily lie about producing multiple tracks.
You're fuckin' right!!!!!!!!!
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I got this on the NWA TV dvd. Haven't busted it out in a long time. Some good and funny parts in the dvd like this one, them playing with a Ouija board, there's one part where this fat guy is taking a shit and someone is sitting in the closet recording it, Eazy cruising around and saying fuck the fans. lol I found it at Bestbuy years ago.
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
lol I haven't had the cd booklets for most of my cds for a long time. But I know he didn't write his own shit on the N.W.A. albums and Eazy Duz It. As for his post-N.W.A. shit, I'm pretty sure someone else was given credit for writing. If you can prove he wrote some of his post-N.W.A., I'd be interested to see it.
As for the interview, i actually read that. Where he claimed he and Ren came up with Just Don't Bite It, a track that Dre and Yella were given production credit for? Now how does that make sense? He claims to have produced Approach to Danger, a track that Dre is shown making in the only home video. :D
You are correct that Eazy did not write his early rhymes. It was never Eazy's intention to be a rapper. Dre talked him into it. So of course, someone just starting out with no prior experience is going to need help with his lyrics. Ice Cube, D.O.C., and MC Ren wrote the majority of "Eazy Duz It" and they're given credit for that. But no where have I ever seen or read anyone make the claim that Eazy never wrote lyrics. You're making the assumption that because he did not not write early on, he never wrote. He's given credit for writing or co-writing songs on "It's On Dr. Dre (187um Killa!) and "Str8 off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin' Comption."
As far as Eazy's work as a producer, I have no idea why he says he and Ren produced "Just Don't Bite It" when Dre and Yella are given the credit. But if he was going to lie about it, I seriously doubt he would arbitrarily pick out one track to take credit for when he could just as easily lie about producing multiple tracks.
I've always wondered who took on the ghostwriting after the D.O.C. left, no one seems to know but if there's any proof that Eazy started writing I'd like to see it. I lost my album booklets a long time ago so I can't exactly verify it from there.
I take it when Eazy says he and Ren "produced" a song that they may have had some part in the making of the track. Like perhaps Eazy came up with the line "Don't matter Just Don't Bite It." But Dre is still the one who produced the track. I mean, Eazy claims to have produced Approach to Danger but there's a video of Dre in the studio putting it together. That doesn't qualify him or Ren as producers, just as guys in the studio who may have given a couple suggestions to Dre. I mean damn, the video I originally posted shows him arguing with Dre about the placement of sirens. But Eazy as a producer? Hell no.
On his later albums Dirty Red, B.G. Knoccout, and Dresta did some writing. But he also wrote for himself. For example, on "It's On Dr. Dre (187um Killa!)" he's given given a writing credit on:
"Exxtra Special Thanks"
"Real Muthaphukkin' G's"
"Still a Nigga"
"Gimmie That Nutt"
"It's On"
"Down 2 Tha Last Roach"
I don't have my album booklet handy for "Str8 off the Streetz of Muthaphukkin' Compton" but I believe he is also given credit for writing/co-writing some of the songs on there, as well.
As far as producing, I don't think he ever produced a lot. I think he co-produced a few tracks, but never single-handedly produced anything. I think it's for that reason that he never made a big deal about it.
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Didn't Ren kill that production rumor in an interview saying Dre more or less produced everything in the early N.W.A. era with help from Yella?
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Didn't Ren kill that production rumor in an interview saying Dre more or less produced everything in the early N.W.A. era with help from Yella?
ThaFormula.com - Now what about the production of "Eazy-Duz-It?" Was everyone involved in that album?
MC Ren - Nah, that was just straight Dre. Every album was just straight Dre. It had on there produced by Dre & Yella but Yella was just like his assistant and shit. Like, "do this for me, hand me that, push that." It was all Dre with the beats. Dre would just be in there like, "we 'gon rap to this one." He was controllin' all that and that's why it was so hard.
source (http://thaformula.com/mc_ren_memory_lane_thaformula_music.html)
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a guess at best? lol. It's just blind denial on your part. He didn't write his own rhymes, he didn't produce, what exactly did he do? That's not a guess, its acknowledged by everyone involved.
He did produce according to his last interview in Rap Pages, he did write according to the liner notes on his albums. Maybe he didn't do the majority of the writing, but he wrote. What else would you have liked that he do? And how is he like Suge Knight? Exactly how many platinum and gold records did Suge personally have? Your continued attempts to marginalize Eazy's contributions are laughable.
marginalize Eazy's contributions? They are already marginalized by all counts. If I came out with an album produced by others and with my raps written for me, should I get credit for it? Also I'm lolling @ you trying to give credit to Eazy E as a writer when its a known fact he didn't write his own raps and he has never been credited as a producer. I'm sure he probably ad-libbed a couple lines once someone had written the rap for him (as did Dre probably) but that doesn't make him anything close to a writer. You give him way too much credit.
I'm glad you're lolling. Keep lolling cause you're not effectively arguing. You can look at the liner notes to any of Eazy's albums. It cleary says who wrote his lyrics. On the tracks where Eazy didn't write his own lyrics, the appropriate person or persons are given credit. How is that taking credit for something that he didn't write? It seems to me that he's giving credit to the writers.
I also noticed you ignored my statement about Eazy-E producing music. It's from his last interview, conducted with "Rap Pages" in February of '95 if you want to look it up.
yeah Rapsodie is acting like a politician.
truth is, Eazy-E was creatively involved with the music.
no real chance of a career?
Helter Skelter was backed by a major label & The D.O.C. had the opportunity to drop a follow up to that album on the same label, but he ruined it.
so don't tell me he didn't have a real chance, because that's bullshit.
I didn't say he never got the opportunity to have a major label career, but that even with all the backing in the world and an album full of Dre beats, with his voice the way it was, only hard core fans could get into it. Hence, no chance of a commercial career ;)
well i'm sure he can eat from it.
lol Well Dub has found DOCs Dick Rider of the forum.
? are you stupid?