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Title: The best dead lyricist
Post by: westup on April 10, 2005, 11:45:24 AM
who u think is the best dead lyricist?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 10, 2005, 11:47:27 AM
Big L,there's no competition.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: mauzip on April 10, 2005, 11:49:18 AM
Big L,there's no competition.

It's Pac.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 10, 2005, 11:57:35 AM
Pac or Pun
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 10, 2005, 12:00:47 PM
freaky tah
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Diabolical on April 10, 2005, 12:11:29 PM
MC Hammer
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Post by: Traumatized on April 10, 2005, 12:20:50 PM
Big L,there's no competition.

Yup, nobody can touch him. Even Big and Pun weren't that good!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: white Boy on April 10, 2005, 12:21:09 PM
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Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 10, 2005, 12:22:15 PM

i think you meant









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Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: 'EclipZe on April 10, 2005, 12:24:11 PM
pac.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: white Boy on April 10, 2005, 12:25:52 PM

i think I meant









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Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Noname on April 10, 2005, 12:27:19 PM
PAC
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Post by: 'DsR' on April 10, 2005, 01:24:35 PM
PAC
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 10, 2005, 01:50:47 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: wcsoldier on April 10, 2005, 02:10:22 PM
Big l without a doubt
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 10, 2005, 02:13:10 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

oh rite, in that case i'd have to say  PAC!!!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: ColdManey on April 10, 2005, 02:23:32 PM
Mac Dre
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 10, 2005, 02:31:50 PM
Big L,there's no competition.

Yup, nobody can touch him. Even Big and Pun weren't that good!

Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

on point!
too bad he never got his chance to really blow. wasnt he in talks with Roc-a-fella before he died?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Juronimo on April 10, 2005, 02:36:36 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

oh rite, in that case i'd have to say  PAC!!!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Machiavelli on April 10, 2005, 03:09:27 PM
Pac then Big L
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on April 10, 2005, 03:51:13 PM
mauzip died a while back didnt he?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: makaveli11 on April 10, 2005, 03:53:22 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

oh rite, in that case i'd have to say  PAC!!!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on April 10, 2005, 05:24:07 PM
yup i know this is about the best lyricist and i know easily that its pac
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 10, 2005, 05:43:15 PM
BIG L is the best lyricist..
Pac is the best over all artist
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Darksider on April 10, 2005, 06:39:15 PM
biggie
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 10, 2005, 07:25:30 PM
Big L is a little overrated lyrically.  He has the punchlines and all but he isn't as lyrical as...


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Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on April 10, 2005, 07:45:55 PM
i agree that big-l might be a bit overated but i just dont think bigpun is that special either.in fact hes only a half step above being downright terrible
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Post by: Machiavelli on April 10, 2005, 07:59:06 PM
I cant stand Big Pun's Flow even though hes lyrical. Big L has better flow. Lyrically to me their the same.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: node on April 10, 2005, 08:13:31 PM
2Pac > Biggie > Big L
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 10, 2005, 08:23:48 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

oh rite, in that case i'd have to say  PAC!!!
Wow,you people are really ignorant.If thats the case,post up Pac's best lyrics & then Ill post Big L's which will top Pac's.If none of you hardcore Pac fans dont post any lyrics up,Ill just take it that you guys dont have anything on Big L.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Machiavelli on April 10, 2005, 08:53:13 PM
Lyrically Pac cant touch Big L,this is a topic askin who's the better lyricist,not who's your favorite rapper.

oh rite, in that case i'd have to say  PAC!!!
Wow,you people are really ignorant.If thats the case,post up Pac's best lyrics & then Ill post Big L's which will top Pac's.If none of you hardcore Pac fans dont post any lyrics up,Ill just take it that you guys dont have anything on Big L.

Me Against The World:

Last Verse:
With all this extra stressin
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finaly get to rest?  Through this supression
they punish the people that's askin questions
And those that possess, steal from the ones without possesions
The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even the genius asks-es questions
Be grateful for blessings
Don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address
Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic
And when you get stranded
And things don't go the way you planned it
Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference
Politicians are hypocrites, they don't wanna listen
If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change
It wasn't nuttin like the game
It's just me against the world

Hail Mary:

First Verse:
I ain't a killer but don't push me
Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to gettin pussy
Picture paragraphs unloaded, wise words bein quoted
Peeped the weakness in the rap game and sewed it
Bow down, pray to God hoping that he's listenin
Seein niggaz comin for me, to my diamonds, when they glistenin
Now pay attention, rest in peace father
I'm a ghost in these killin fields
Hail Mary catch me if I go, let's go deep inside
the solitary mind of a madman who screams in the dark
Evil lurks, enemies, see me flee
Activate my hate, let it break, to the flame
Set trip, empty out my clip, never stop to aim
Some say the game is all corrupted, fucked in this shit
Stuck, niggaz is lucky if we bust out this shit, plus
mama told me never stop until I bust a nut
Fuck the world if they can't adjust
It's just as well, Hail Mary

I Ain't Mad At Cha (Video Version)

Last Verse:
Father forgive us for livin while all my homies stuck in prison
Barely breatin believin that the world is a prison
It's like a ghetto we can never leave
A broken rose givin bloom to the cracks of the concrete
So many other things for us to see
Things to be, our history so full of tragedy and misery
To all my homies never made it home
The dead peers I shed tattoo tears for, when I'm alone
Picture us inside a ghetto heaven, a place to rest
Findin peace through this land of stress
In my chest I feel pain comin sudden storms
Life full of rain in this game watch for landstorms
Our unborn never got to grow, never got to see what's next
In this world full of countless threats
I beg God, to make a way for our ghetto kids to breathe
Show a sign, make us all believe
Cause I ain't mad at cha
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on April 10, 2005, 08:57:36 PM
^^^^^^^yup no doubt about it pac is the greatest ever
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: The_One on April 10, 2005, 09:16:06 PM
Id take Big L... his rhyme schemes were amazing and he had good punchlines... Biggie and Pun were good, but id still take Big L.... and as far as Pac, he was great, he was emotional and really had shit 2 say.  He is definately one of my favorite rappers.  But that doesnt really make him a lyricist.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Thuglife on April 10, 2005, 11:20:04 PM
I got slugs for bitches no love for bitches putting thugs in ditches when my trigger itches
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Soulful on April 11, 2005, 01:17:27 AM
Pac is the greatest ever imo. but both biggie and big l were crazy lyricists..

download big l's "the heist"

Aiyyo I just left the studio, and it's about two in the morn'
Just finished doin a song
Now I'm ready for sleep
but first I want spaghetti to eat
and it's a good Italian restaurant right up the street
So I jumped in the Jeep, stash the heat under the seat
Then I got a beep; my voice is hoarse, barely can speak
I called back on the cell - it's Corle', mad as hell
Told me to listen well as he started to yell
"I just seen Mike and Ben with your wife and a friend
 and they just got a room at the Holiday Inn"
"It's my wife, you sure?"  "Yeah I'm sure
 I saw the whore soon as she walked through the door"
"Say no more, which one?"
"The one in Jersey son, right over the bridge"
"We goin' hurt those hoes"  "AND hurt both of them kids"
Now I'm in the Range
Switchin lanes, doin a buck 'n change
I can't wait to buck them lames and them fuckin dames
I reach the destination
Grab the heat without no hesitation
These niggaz fuckin up my reputation
I saw Coleone holdin the chrome
Ice-grill, lookin like he had a license to kill
and he had somebody else with 'em playin the cup
Lookin like he can't wait to start sprayin shit up
"Yo, who that in the background?"  "It's Tommy Gibbs"
"Oh, I didn't recognize you with your hat down
 Son you ready?  We got this whole shit mapped out
 I hope you ain't scared, there's no time to back out
 We gon' take the backroute
 pull the gats out, throw the mask on
 We ain't leavin til everyone's dead, and all the cash gone
 We gon' get our laugh on when we through
 but right now we got a job to do"  "So let's do it!"
I stepped to the deskclerk
Put the gat to her dress-shirt
Told her listen up before she get hurt
"They just walked in, party of four, two chicks, two males
 What room they got?"  She paused and said "212"
I took the steps now I'm out of breath; I gotta stop smokin
Them cigarettes gon' be the cause of my death
My heart beatin fast now, cause it's about to pop off
Saw the door, let the glock off, tore the lock off
Took a deep breath, then ran inside at a quick pace
I felt disgraced, I shoulda shot that bitch in the face
Then my other two niggaz ran in, each had a cannon
Ready to take care what we been plannin
These two crab cats, we know they hustle upstate
We know they got stacks
cause they don't fuck with nothin but weight
We got the cuffs and the duct tape and put it to use
Then told 'em when this is over we'll be lettin 'em loose
And then I kicked Mike in his face to watch his head jerk back
"You wanna live then tell my nigga where you stash the work at"
He gave me the address then I ran outside
but first I took the keys to his van outside
And when I got there, I found 50 ki's in a stash
a hundred pounds of grass, and two million in cash
I was dumb glad, the shit didn't fit in one bag
So I got three, filled 'em all up to the teeth
Then put the bags in the van, then I locked the truck
When I got back, Corle' done popped them punks
"Aiyyo fuck it L, we might as well pop these studs"
Now that's four bodies
Two outta-towners and two hotties
And after that we ain't sleep for three days
We hit the PJ's, split the money threeways
Now we all laughin hard, gettin nice and weeded
Celebratin nigga, heist completed
-----------------------------------------------
this one i just as entertaining as Biggie's "Warning"..both are storytellin at its best
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: ImmortalOne on April 11, 2005, 01:39:16 AM
It all depends on what your definition of lyricist is.....

if its crazy punchlines, metaphors, and wordplay.....Big L was probably tops.

But if you mean actual content and what is being said, Pac gonna win this no competition.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Caution2006 on April 11, 2005, 02:07:22 AM
PAC without a doubt
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 11, 2005, 05:27:54 AM
If you think that 2Pac is the best dead lyricist you are either ignorant or a dickrider.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 11, 2005, 05:36:41 AM
If you think that 2Pac is the best dead lyricist you are either ignorant or a dickrider.

left eye was a better lyricist than pac
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 11, 2005, 08:02:20 AM
If you think that 2Pac is the best dead lyricist you are either ignorant or a dickrider.

...or correct
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: hiphopthugsta on April 11, 2005, 08:04:28 AM
Seagram
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: BigBDrugStores on April 11, 2005, 08:07:13 AM
jayz-nas murderd him on ether
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 11, 2005, 08:07:42 AM
If you think that 2Pac is the best dead lyricist you are either ignorant or a dickrider.

...or correct
Can you just please shut up???Seriously,I like you man,but the shit you're saying about Pac is just plain stupid.I cant help thinking you're either his dickrider or someone who doesnt know anything about hip hop.Im having doubts in posting any of Big L's lyrics cause no matter how good they would be,yall would still say Pac is better.The only difference is tho is that I have proof to back up my statements & yall dont.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 11, 2005, 08:09:24 AM
...or correct

So you belong in the ignorant category.  So I suggest you...

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Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 11, 2005, 08:11:37 AM
jayz-nas murderd him on ether
I didnt know Gay-Z died...
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 11, 2005, 08:11:55 AM
...or correct

So you belong in the ignorant category.  So I suggest you...

(http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/warehouse/nomar99pf-1.jpg)

i have an opinion

so i suggest u........eat a dick
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 11, 2005, 08:15:03 AM
are you done with pacs?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 11, 2005, 08:17:24 AM
i have an opinion

and I'm telling you, your opinion is wrong.
Do your homework kiddo.

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Ay-yo I shatter dreams like Jordan, assault and batter your team
Your squadron'll be barred from rap like Adam & Eve from the garden
I'm carvin' my initials on your forehead
So every night before bed you see the "BP" shine off the board head
Reverse that, I curse at the first wack nigga with the worst rap
Cuz he ain't worth jack
hit 'em with a thousand pounds of pressure per slap
Make his whole body jerk back, watch the earth crack
hand him his purse back
I'm the first Latin rapper to baffle your skull
Master the flow, niggaz be swearin' I'm blacker than coal
Like Nat King, I be rapping and tounge's packing
The ones, magnums, cannons and gatling guns
It's Big Pun!  The one and only son of Tony...Montana
You ain't promised manana in the rotten manzana
C'mon-pana we need more rhymers
feel the marijuana snake bite anaconda
A man of honour wouldn't wanna try to match my persona
Sometimes rhymin' I blow my own mind like Nirvana
Comma, and go the whole nine like Madonna
Go try to find another rhymer with my kinda gramma


Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 11, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
case closed, anyone?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 11, 2005, 08:27:23 AM
i have an opinion

and I'm telling you, your opinion is wrong.
Do your homework kiddo.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000K3HL.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

Ay-yo I shatter dreams like Jordan, assault and batter your team
Your squadron'll be barred from rap like Adam & Eve from the garden
I'm carvin' my initials on your forehead
So every night before bed you see the "BP" shine off the board head
Reverse that, I curse at the first wack nigga with the worst rap
Cuz he ain't worth jack
hit 'em with a thousand pounds of pressure per slap
Make his whole body jerk back, watch the earth crack
hand him his purse back
I'm the first Latin rapper to baffle your skull
Master the flow, niggaz be swearin' I'm blacker than coal
Like Nat King, I be rapping and tounge's packing
The ones, magnums, cannons and gatling guns
It's Big Pun!  The one and only son of Tony...Montana
You ain't promised manana in the rotten manzana
C'mon-pana we need more rhymers
feel the marijuana snake bite anaconda
A man of honour wouldn't wanna try to match my persona
Sometimes rhymin' I blow my own mind like Nirvana
Comma, and go the whole nine like Madonna
Go try to find another rhymer with my kinda gramma




correction

ure saying my opinion is wrong...u aint TELLIN me shit
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: The_One on April 11, 2005, 11:36:10 AM
case closed, anyone?

Yah I would say so, anyone who understands multi's , inners, and complex rhyme schemes knows its Big L.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 11, 2005, 11:39:32 AM
i have been taken out of context!  :o >:(
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Milk Man on April 11, 2005, 11:41:15 AM
Mausberg was the best out of any them dead muthafuckas , homie shoulda got his dna pattern cloned or somethin
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Makaveli R.I.P. on April 11, 2005, 12:55:41 PM
Tupac Shakur aka 2Pac aka Makaveli
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Wicked977 on April 14, 2005, 12:44:08 PM
Tupac no one ever made him look bad He would challenge B.I.G but he would just ignore him no disrespect                                  but he didn't whant it with Makaveli Tha Don best dead or ALIVE ;D
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 14, 2005, 01:38:27 PM
Tupac no one ever made him look bad He would challenge B.I.G but he would just ignore him no disrespect                                  but he didn't whant it with Makaveli Tha Don best dead or ALIVE ;D

Artist: Notorious B.I.G. f/ Puff Daddy
Album:  Life After Death
Song:   Long Kiss Goodnight
Typed by: OHHLA Webmaster DJ Flash

[Puff Daddy]
Mmmmmmmmm-HMM
See.. {*echoes*}
I told you.. {*echoes*}

[Puff]   See, I told y'all muh'fuckers
[Big]   Yo yo.. that stupid nigga man
[Puff]   I told y'all to stop!
[Big]   He fucked up, yo..
[Puff]   I pray for you to stop
[Big]   Yo, yo yo yo, yo.. yo.. yo..
   Yo, yo yo yo, yo..
[Puff]   But no, you didn't stop
[Big]   Yo.. yo..
[Puff]   And now, we won't stop

Chorus: sung by Notorious B.I.G. (repeat 2X)

Time, time for you to die
As I kiss.. yo'.. ass.. goodnight

[Notorious B.I.G.]
I make yo' mouthpiece obese like Della Reese
When I release, you loose teeth like Lil' Cease
Nigga please, blood floods yo' Dungarees
And that's just the half on my warpath
Laugh now cry later, I rhyme greater
than the average playa hater, and spectators
buy my CD twice; they see me in the streets
They be like, "Yo he nice, but that's on the low doe"
Be the cats with no dough, tried to play me at my show
I pull out fo'-fo's, and go up in they clothes
Short-change niggaz, snort-caine niggaz
Extortion came quicker, bought the Range nigga
Ya still tickle me, I used to be as strong as Ripple be
til Lil' Cease crippled me
Now I play hard, like my girls nipples be
The game sour like like a pickle be, y'all know da rules
Move from BK to New Jeruz -- thinkin bout
all the planes we flew, bitches, we ran through
Now the year's new, I lay my game flat
I want my spot back, take two
Motherfuckers mad cause I blew, niggaz envious
Too many niggaz on my dick, shit strenuous
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I ain't mad at cha (we ain't mad at cha)
Blood rushin, concussions, ain't nothin
Catch cases, come out frontin, smokin somethin
Sippin White Russians, bitch in the Benz bumpin
I laced it wit the basic, six TV's a system
Knockin Mase shit, face it, we hard to hit
Guard ya shit, 'fore I stick you, for your re-up
Wipe the pee up, mixed shots, woke your seed up
Go in the ashtray, spark the weed up, LONG KISS

Chorus 2X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
Now.. we don't give a fuck..
We just absolutely.. don't give a fuck..
Because.. there ain't no motherfuckin love here..
There ain't no love here..
You know, we.. we just gon' keep doin what we do
We gon' keep FUCKIN YOU UP..
And I'ma keep stompin your MOTHERFUCKIN HEAD IN
you FUCKIN BITCH, c'mon!!
{last line overlaps Biggie's next verse}

[Notorious B.I.G.]
Uhh.. I'm flamin gats, aimin at, these fuckin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that?  Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Blackwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleedin lovely, wit'chyo, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be
My nine flies, baptize, rap guys
With the Holy Ghost, I put holes in most
You hold your toast shaky, slippin tryin to break me
Look what you made me do, brains blew
My team in the marine-blue, six Coupe
Skied it out, weeded out, cleanin out -- the block
for distances, givin long kisses BITCH

Chorus 2X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
All we have to do now.. is say a prayer for you.. y'know?
That's all we have to do, just to pray for your mind.. cause..
Eheh, see your mind got control of your heart..
when it's supposed to be the other way around
Your heart's supposed to got control of your mind..
So now, I have no feelings for you
You have made me cold..
{last line overlaps Biggie's next verse}

[Notorious B.I.G.]
Frank White the menacin, Chron Chron's the medicine
I got the lettuce and, you turn green like cucumber skin
Got the new, Hummer in the summer when I was a new comer
then, drugs and mac-10's
Hugs from fake friends, make ends they hate you
Be broke -- girls won't date you
That's why I relate to, choke yo' ass out til your face blue
Make you, open the safe too
No matter how you call it (how you call it)
this brolic, alcoholic .. {*Biggie's chorus fades in*}
like his weed green'd out, like his brick solid
Distribute to, kids who, take heart like Valentine
Drink Ballentine, all the time
Slugs hit your chest tap you spine, flatline
Heard through the grapevine, you got fucked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fucked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no

Chorus 3X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
See the fucked up thing is that I love you..
yaknahmsayin?
It's just in my nature to love you..
I can't hate you.. cause it's not in my nature to hate you..
You know, I don't know..
Maybe.. I'm a different type of individual..
But.. you have me on the line..
and there's a thin line between love and hate
And God forbid I cross that line..
Cause y'all not gonna give a fuck
I'm tellin you right, MOTHERFUCKIN, NOW!!
THE SHIT, Y'ALL DONE STARTED, IS NEVER GONNA STOP!!!
WE ARE NEVER GONNA STOP!!!
And we not talkin bout.. no other rappers..
We talkin bout YOU motherfucker
YOU KNOW, who I'm talkin to..
We comin for you..
We comin for you.. ehehehehheh
The shit's gon' feel so good..
I'm gon' make you love me baby {*echoes*}
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on April 14, 2005, 01:54:35 PM
WHY ARE YOU HERE??? I dont get you cjknuckles or whatever your name is all you do with your posts is praise eastcoast and shit on westcoast artists, so just stop posting man.  I dont go to eastcoast sites and praise westcoast artists.

You are always praising biggie, rakim and other eastcoast rappers while shitting on everything we have. This is DUBCNN Westcoast music stop talknig about eastcoast rap faggots and get the hell out of here
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on April 14, 2005, 01:56:52 PM
also the lyrics you just posted are straight garbage tupac has at least 70 songs that are better than anything biggie or puff has ever breathed on!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 14, 2005, 02:16:37 PM
WHY ARE YOU HERE??? I dont get you cjknuckles or whatever your name is all you do with your posts is praise eastcoast and shit on westcoast artists, so just stop posting man.  I dont go to eastcoast sites and praise westcoast artists.

You are always praising biggie, rakim and other eastcoast rappers while shitting on everything we have. This is DUBCNN Westcoast music stop talknig about eastcoast rap faggots and get the hell out of here

 ::)
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: makaveli11 on April 14, 2005, 03:22:20 PM
Tupac no one ever made him look bad He would challenge B.I.G but he would just ignore him no disrespect                                  but he didn't whant it with Makaveli Tha Don best dead or ALIVE ;D

Artist: Notorious B.I.G. f/ Puff Daddy
Album:  Life After Death
Song:   Long Kiss Goodnight
Typed by: OHHLA Webmaster DJ Flash

[Puff Daddy]
Mmmmmmmmm-HMM
See.. {*echoes*}
I told you.. {*echoes*}

[Puff]   See, I told y'all muh'fuckers
[Big]   Yo yo.. that stupid nigga man
[Puff]   I told y'all to stop!
[Big]   He fucked up, yo..
[Puff]   I pray for you to stop
[Big]   Yo, yo yo yo, yo.. yo.. yo..
   Yo, yo yo yo, yo..
[Puff]   But no, you didn't stop
[Big]   Yo.. yo..
[Puff]   And now, we won't stop

Chorus: sung by Notorious B.I.G. (repeat 2X)

Time, time for you to die
As I kiss.. yo'.. ass.. goodnight

[Notorious B.I.G.]
I make yo' mouthpiece obese like Della Reese
When I release, you loose teeth like Lil' Cease
Nigga please, blood floods yo' Dungarees
And that's just the half on my warpath
Laugh now cry later, I rhyme greater
than the average playa hater, and spectators
buy my CD twice; they see me in the streets
They be like, "Yo he nice, but that's on the low doe"
Be the cats with no dough, tried to play me at my show
I pull out fo'-fo's, and go up in they clothes
Short-change niggaz, snort-caine niggaz
Extortion came quicker, bought the Range nigga
Ya still tickle me, I used to be as strong as Ripple be
til Lil' Cease crippled me
Now I play hard, like my girls nipples be
The game sour like like a pickle be, y'all know da rules
Move from BK to New Jeruz -- thinkin bout
all the planes we flew, bitches, we ran through
Now the year's new, I lay my game flat
I want my spot back, take two
Motherfuckers mad cause I blew, niggaz envious
Too many niggaz on my dick, shit strenuous
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I ain't mad at cha (we ain't mad at cha)
Blood rushin, concussions, ain't nothin
Catch cases, come out frontin, smokin somethin
Sippin White Russians, bitch in the Benz bumpin
I laced it wit the basic, six TV's a system
Knockin Mase shit, face it, we hard to hit
Guard ya shit, 'fore I stick you, for your re-up
Wipe the pee up, mixed shots, woke your seed up
Go in the ashtray, spark the weed up, LONG KISS

Chorus 2X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
Now.. we don't give a fuck..
We just absolutely.. don't give a fuck..
Because.. there ain't no motherfuckin love here..
There ain't no love here..
You know, we.. we just gon' keep doin what we do
We gon' keep FUCKIN YOU UP..
And I'ma keep stompin your MOTHERFUCKIN HEAD IN
you FUCKIN BITCH, c'mon!!
{last line overlaps Biggie's next verse}

[Notorious B.I.G.]
Uhh.. I'm flamin gats, aimin at, these fuckin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that?  Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Blackwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleedin lovely, wit'chyo, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be
My nine flies, baptize, rap guys
With the Holy Ghost, I put holes in most
You hold your toast shaky, slippin tryin to break me
Look what you made me do, brains blew
My team in the marine-blue, six Coupe
Skied it out, weeded out, cleanin out -- the block
for distances, givin long kisses BITCH

Chorus 2X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
All we have to do now.. is say a prayer for you.. y'know?
That's all we have to do, just to pray for your mind.. cause..
Eheh, see your mind got control of your heart..
when it's supposed to be the other way around
Your heart's supposed to got control of your mind..
So now, I have no feelings for you
You have made me cold..
{last line overlaps Biggie's next verse}

[Notorious B.I.G.]
Frank White the menacin, Chron Chron's the medicine
I got the lettuce and, you turn green like cucumber skin
Got the new, Hummer in the summer when I was a new comer
then, drugs and mac-10's
Hugs from fake friends, make ends they hate you
Be broke -- girls won't date you
That's why I relate to, choke yo' ass out til your face blue
Make you, open the safe too
No matter how you call it (how you call it)
this brolic, alcoholic .. {*Biggie's chorus fades in*}
like his weed green'd out, like his brick solid
Distribute to, kids who, take heart like Valentine
Drink Ballentine, all the time
Slugs hit your chest tap you spine, flatline
Heard through the grapevine, you got fucked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fucked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no

Chorus 3X

{Puff Daddy - speaking over chorus}
See the fucked up thing is that I love you..
yaknahmsayin?
It's just in my nature to love you..
I can't hate you.. cause it's not in my nature to hate you..
You know, I don't know..
Maybe.. I'm a different type of individual..
But.. you have me on the line..
and there's a thin line between love and hate
And God forbid I cross that line..
Cause y'all not gonna give a fuck
I'm tellin you right, MOTHERFUCKIN, NOW!!
THE SHIT, Y'ALL DONE STARTED, IS NEVER GONNA STOP!!!
WE ARE NEVER GONNA STOP!!!
And we not talkin bout.. no other rappers..
We talkin bout YOU motherfucker
YOU KNOW, who I'm talkin to..
We comin for you..
We comin for you.. ehehehehheh
The shit's gon' feel so good..
I'm gon' make you love me baby {*echoes*}

you just proved his point ... B.I.G. didn't want it with Makaveli. That's why he waited till Pac died hence the title 'long kiss goodnight'. That song was weak, pathetic and a coward move to try to through the last punch.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: makaveli11 on April 14, 2005, 03:27:25 PM
WHY ARE YOU HERE??? I dont get you cjknuckles or whatever your name is all you do with your posts is praise eastcoast and shit on westcoast artists, so just stop posting man.  I dont go to eastcoast sites and praise westcoast artists.

You are always praising biggie, rakim and other eastcoast rappers while shitting on everything we have. This is DUBCNN Westcoast music stop talknig about eastcoast rap faggots and get the hell out of here
He has a point. It seems your objective here is to try to show that east coast > west coast which of course we know is simply not true. It's obvious you don't really care for west coast music, so why are you here?
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: mercy C.O.B. on April 14, 2005, 03:30:41 PM
Big L
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 14, 2005, 03:35:57 PM
WHY ARE YOU HERE??? I dont get you cjknuckles or whatever your name is all you do with your posts is praise eastcoast and shit on westcoast artists, so just stop posting man.  I dont go to eastcoast sites and praise westcoast artists.

You are always praising biggie, rakim and other eastcoast rappers while shitting on everything we have. This is DUBCNN Westcoast music stop talknig about eastcoast rap faggots and get the hell out of here
He has a point. It seems your objective here is to try to show that east coast > west coast which of course we know is simply not true. It's obvious you don't really care for west coast music, so why are you here?

a love of music other than WC rap doesnt mean he doesnt appreciate WC rap. just doesnt appreciate the legends who dont deserve their status
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: makaveli11 on April 14, 2005, 03:39:10 PM
Oh yeah ... another thing too c2knuckles you need to chill because you seem to have a chip in your shoulder when it comes to 2pac. This is clear from not just reading your posts in this thread, but from your other posts in other threads and it been like this for a long while. Don't hate, just pay respect and love to the goat rapper, the best dead lyricist, and to the top ten lyricist of all time :).
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: BigBDrugStores on April 14, 2005, 03:41:42 PM
fat joe
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73361.0
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 14, 2005, 04:44:16 PM
you just proved his point ... B.I.G. didn't want it with Makaveli. That's why he waited till Pac died hence the title 'long kiss goodnight'. That song was weak, pathetic and a coward move to try to through the last punch.

I'm pretty sure that was recorded before he passed away.

Oh yeah ... another thing too c2knuckles you need to chill because you seem to have a chip in your shoulder when it comes to 2pac. This is clear from not just reading your posts in this thread, but from your other posts in other threads and it been like this for a long while. Don't hate, just pay respect and love to the goat rapper, the best dead lyricist, and to the top ten lyricist of all time :).

Please explain how I hate on 2Pac?  I've expressed before that he was my favourite rapper at one time and he's one of the greatest MCs ever, I'm just not baised to the westcoast like a lot of people here.  I don't give a fuck where someone is from unlike some people.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: big mat on April 14, 2005, 07:04:53 PM
There's a difference between a rapper and a lyricist. Lyrcists are straight emceiing. like big L and Pun, they use battle lyrics u can't fuck with, there ain't a lot of those cats on the west cuz west are not lyricist. tough 2pac could have been a good lyricist he was more just a rapper with deep lyrics, he some times used wordplay, but not often, and some multis there and there. Big L and Pun are the best dead lyricist,. Personnaly i prefer big L style cuz i don't like tha voice tone of pun. but pun was makin crazy multy-syllable rhymes. but on top of every one, big l was tha best lyricist the rap game ever had, he would have battle eminem at is prime, madd skillz, pun, kurupt, name them all, o'c, rakim. pac wasn't a lyricist, that's what most of the people don't understand here cuz they are from europe and they probably never seen a rap battle between two emceez. u can't come with deep lyrics about women or shit like that when it's all about lyricism nah mean. its all about story telling, punchlines, methaphores, wordplay, multis, and all those style figures that u can match up with those. Now don't think I hate pac, he is my favorite artist, i own all his cds, but i know what is a lyricist and what it takes to battle emcee's. It's a particular style that 2pac ain't fitting anyway.
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: The Watcher on April 14, 2005, 07:26:16 PM
C2Knuckles is right.. Big L is FAR ahead of any other dead rappers
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Mista Drizz on April 14, 2005, 08:06:32 PM
i'd have to say the best dead lyricist was pac!

But.....The dude that had the gift to gab and just conversate like it was nothing....welll.....Thats The Mac Named Dre....Thizz In Peace Cuddy!!
Fuck The World We Love Furl!!!! Yadaimean!
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: wcsoldier on April 15, 2005, 06:30:50 AM
Big L without a doubt
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: Thuglife on April 15, 2005, 11:34:29 AM
biggie
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: oglocdogg on April 15, 2005, 12:59:50 PM
yo check out casualties ov a dice game before u put any above big l corleone pace ma neegs
Title: Re: The best dead lyricist
Post by: stra8uplaya on April 15, 2005, 08:58:28 PM
big L was probably a better freestyler than pac but...I really never heard big L shit so....