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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Addicted To Cake on June 16, 2006, 01:22:37 AM
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Game was on the Carson Daily show and he said that Dre will not be producing on the album
He also said his first single off Doctor's Advocate is gonna be called "One Blood" and it'll be released on the 4th of July.
big dissapointment .Dre probably not executive producing the album either which means, without Dre's guidance, this album will probably be a piece of shit.
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Never mind. I'll still buy it.
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Post a link or some proof ..dont mean to doubt u .. but daaaaamn ...
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lol why is he still calling it doctor's advocate
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FUCK DR. DRE
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Game was on the Carson Daily show and he said that Dre will not be producing on the album
Tell me you didn’t see that coming from a mile. Its fucked up they dropped him from the label
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yeah for real.... first people didn't believe he was off aftermath.. now this...
when is the album title going to change??
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damn that is a major disspointment.
Post a link or some proof ..dont mean to doubt u .. but daaaaamn ...
i'm gonna look into it....
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Post a link or some proof ..dont mean to doubt u .. but daaaaamn ...
what do u mean link? i cant just link up the show for u, use ur head
his deal is thru geffen. no more math & no more dre. the fact that dre isnt working wit game fuckin sucks.
50 cent was behind the whole thing
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Game was on the Carson Daily show and he said that Dre will not be producing on the album
Tell me you didn’t see that coming from a mile. Its fucked up they dropped him from the label
all the clues where there. i dont know what more people wanted.
too bad i have no idea when the carson daily show comes on. or what sation. or who the fuck he is.
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^ MTV..
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Suck's if tru' :-\
danm it's sad when Music has to be spoiled by men acting like Straight BIIIIIIIIIIIIatchez...
When they are old & Grey,
they will look back & the height of their music ability's & be like,
why the fuck were we thinking?
like some kinder/pre school shit...
Interscope killing Hip-Hop
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FUCK DR. DRE
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
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huge iuf true i imagined that he was dropped from aftermath but for dre not even to work on the project is woah !!!
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Game was on the Carson Daily show and he said that Dre will not be producing on the album
Tell me you didn’t see that coming from a mile. Its fucked up they dropped him from the label
all the clues where there. i dont know what more people wanted.
too bad i have no idea when the carson daily show comes on. or what sation. or who the fuck he is.
Carson Daly = TRL
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
dre didn't bring me millions....
he gave u millions?
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And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Yeah & the same dude that brought him millions dissed him & tried to make it look like it was Game's fault, 50's pathetic.
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And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Yeah & the same dude that brought him millions dissed him & tried to make it look like it was Game's fault, 50's pathetic.
50 never said "fuck Dre". All he said was he aint gonna work with him if he works with Game. Thats not a diss. On the other hand Game dissed Eminem for that 2Pac project, saying it was a piece of shit.
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^I don't recall Game saying that but even if he said that it's nothing but the truth.It certainly isn't a diss.Em step your game up.
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Um actually it was 50 who said the project was a piece of shit not Game LMAO and Game never said Fuck Dre anywhere .. it was selfish of 50 to put Dre in a position to chose between the 2 o them !!
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Um actually it was 50 who said the project was a piece of shit not Game LMAO and Game never said Fuck Dre anywhere .. it was selfish of 50 to put Dre in a position to chose between the 2 o them !!
50 never said that article about him signing 2pac to g-unit was fake
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Um actually it was 50 who said the project was a piece of shit not Game LMAO and Game never said Fuck Dre anywhere .. it was selfish of 50 to put Dre in a position to chose between the 2 o them !!
No it was Game. Im 100%. Neither Game or 50 said fuck Dre.
Like I said it was both 50s and Games fault. Both are idiots with huge egos. Everything could be normal if they werent so retarded. But 50 played this better and at the end it wasnt a hard pick to made. 50 is like a brother to Em, gets a long with the whole Shay crew, has his own group thats selling... Game on the other hand doesnt have his own brother backing him, his whole group left him. Hes a trouble maker no doubt.
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^I don't recall Game saying that but even if he said that it's nothing but the truth.It certainly isn't a diss.Em step your game up.
If youre saying someone made a wack job doing an album, that is infact a diss. Or its just as much a diss as you are saying 50 dissed Dre :P
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^No its an opinion, rappers are just scared thats why they lie all the time.Whatever tho.
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Whoever said Loyal To The Game was a piece of shit was speaking the truth :P
huge iuf true i imagined that he was dropped from aftermath but for dre not even to work on the project is woah !!!
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did anyone else watch the show just curious to find out if this is true or not?
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
I would pick The Game, cause id have enough money. and i prefer someone that rep my side over someone that behaves like a 12 year old bitch but makes more moeny
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oh my bad didnt no it was fake .. your right thought Game put himself in a bad position he doesnt get alon with any1 but still 50 shouldnt have put dre in that position .. He should know his position Dre his boss not the other way around ... If dre choses to work with someone thats his choice not 50s to make
other thread says game is due on carson on the 22nd so who knows
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So Game has yet to be on the Carson show?SO why r we all talking about this shit i need some fucking proof damn it. >:( I hope its not true though.
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yes i jus checked it out, the carson daly show with game is suppose to air next thursday evening.
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
I would pick The Game, cause id have enough money. and i prefer someone that rep my side over someone that behaves like a 12 year old bitch but makes more moeny
Yeah and Game proved hes a mature person that can be trusted ::)
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oh my bad didnt no it was fake .. your right thought Game put himself in a bad position he doesnt get alon with any1 but still 50 shouldnt have put dre in that position .. He should know his position Dre his boss not the other way around ... If dre choses to work with someone thats his choice not 50s to make
other thread says game is due on carson on the 22nd so who knows
Lol what makes everyone think Dre was forced to do this ? He was already pissed at Game for starting to diss 50, when he told them to shut the fuck up.
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Dre wasnt forced to do anything ..But 50 was the 1 who put him in this position..he threatened Dre that he would leave dre if dre was confused .. Then After the press conference whcih was supposed 2 stop the whole beef 50 and his team coninued to throw there lil jabs at Game .. it was smart because it made Game explode and hence cause issues with game and aftermath again !!!
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detox is not coming is too one biased. always has been
fact: 50 said if dre works with the game again, then he's going to re-release the massacre as a double disc with the first disc being a new album so he can complete his contract and leave aftermath
fact: 50 said "of course dre isn't workin with game. how's he gonna work with game? if he works with him then that means me and dre got beef..."
fact: 50 is the one who started this beef. he could've easily expressed his concerns about game behind closed doors and ended his relationship with game without ever mentioning it. but he was the one who went on hot97 clowin game and put him in a position where he had to defend himself
fact: 50 and yayo are the ones who started the dissing AFTER 50 and game had the peace conference
so its fucked up that game got bullied off aftermath. if dre wants to drop someone he should drop both of them.
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Problem is.. Dre doesn't call teh shots at Aftermath. Interscope does.
Aftermath ISNT real label.. its just a brand interscope puts on things Dre related. they own dre, they have since the death row days. remember when dre left death row.. the only thing that really left interscope in the end was death row.
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IF this is true - and that's a big IF since there's little proof so far - then I can't say I'm totally surprised. Dre rarely works with anyone outside the Aftermath camp these days, so if Game has been booted to Geffen then it's not too big of a shock to me.
The bottom line is that no label in their right mind is going to turn away a young dude who has moved over two million records in his own country alone. Interscope/Aftermath's loss will only be Geffen's gain. At the end of the day, Game's has apparently still got Kanye, Just Blaze, Timbaland, and Cool & Dre dropping beats on the project so it's not like he's exactly lacking top notch production. Yeah, granted they're not Dre, but they can still produce some great work. While the loss of that Dre and 50 endorsement might cost him some fans, there are still plenty of listeners like myself who will be checking for the album, not least out of curiousity and to see how it turns out. Geffen did great work promotion-wise with Snoop on the "R&G" project and I'm sure they can work just as well with Game.
Still, this is definitely a big 'IF' and I for one will be awaiting further confirmation of this rumour.
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yo thats fucked up......
i hope it aint true....
50 is a monster as i said b4
but i never expected dre to fuck game over like that
am sure there r stuff that we dont know about.....
i also partially blame game for wat happend....
but damn thats fukked up
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So Game has yet to be on the Carson show?SO why r we all talking about this shit i need some fucking proof damn it.
bullshit, the show was taped 3 days ago.
its true. he said it on the show. stop questioning me.
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Problem is.. Dre doesn't call teh shots at Aftermath. Interscope does.
Aftermath ISNT real label.. its just a brand interscope puts on things Dre related. they own dre, they have since the death row days. remember when dre left death row.. the only thing that really left interscope in the end was death row.
i thought dre sold 35% of the company to interscope in 2001...
which means dre still owns 65%... unless he sold the rest later
those 35% were sold for 50 mill lol
shows u how big the label is compared to labels like roc-a-fella
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All valid points but if it is tru its a bad business move for intrscope .. ..Keeping Game connected with Dre for this album at least would have helped Interscope establish another platinum artist which could sell for years to come ..
If they let him go after his 2nd album so be it as hes already established himself and they can still pimp him later at Geffen ..But now being totalled removed from 50 and Dre before his second album even drops, is going to pose alot of ???? for consumers before the 2nd album even drops and the shit could flop bigg tyme .. Meaning Interscope lost a oppurtunity to set up another artist in his own right
That is of course unless 50 and Jimmy really wanted to ruin Games career altogether.. Game being off Aftermath and on Geffen would have worked just with Dres input and production...Nobody would care if the imprint changed as long as Dre was still involved in some capacity
Its very evident eminem had a influence on this as well ,especially since shady has been saying for a while they dont want to be involved in anything Game does .. So if you add 50 -G Unit and Shady thats a pretty strong alliance that Jimmy probably didnt want to risk pissing off
Might be time for Suge and Game to squash there beef lmao Those 2 2gether would be a nightmare for the industry !!!
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So Game has yet to be on the Carson show?SO why r we all talking about this shit i need some fucking proof damn it.
bullshit, the show was taped 3 days ago.
its true. he said it on the show. stop questioning me.
that aint true dawg,
the show has yet to air, you can look it up your self, they alway pre record each show. I can give you the link that says "Game on Carson Daly show" on June 22, 2006 actually it airs the 23rd at 1:35 am.
show me 1 shred of proof that game said anything like that and i'll shut up.
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So Game has yet to be on the Carson show?SO why r we all talking about this shit i need some fucking proof damn it.
bullshit, the show was taped 3 days ago.
its true. he said it on the show. stop questioning me.
that aint true dawg,
the show has yet to air, you can look it up your self, they alway pre record each show. I can give you the link that says "Game on Carson Daly show" on June 22, 2006 actually it airs the 23rd at 1:35 am.
show me 1 shred of proof that game said anything like that and i'll shut up.
i dont give a fuck when it airs & i dont care if u niccas believe me either u will see when it comes on nbc... the show was taped at the burbank NBC studios 3 days ago.
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All I can think about this situation is - this fuckin sucks. (Though it was kinda funny to read halfway through the thread and see that the show hasn't aired yet.) True, he could've said this, that and everything at the taping 3 days ago - but none here have seen it, so once again gotta take that grain of salt. BUT - nevertheless it's pretty damn fucked up how they've treated Game for a while now, 50 pulling strings to put obstacles in his careerpath, label moving him over to Geffen and all. From the mixtapes it was obvious that dude put in work and wanted to make more quality music. He got talent, so he could still do it, but if they really fucked up his ties with Dr. Dre then that's just straight up some of the most fucked up ass bullshit that's happened in the game for a while.
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ya know, it REALLY shouldn't be this hard to release albums
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All valid points but if it is tru its a bad business move for intrscope .. ..Keeping Game connected with Dre for this album at least would have helped Interscope establish another platinum artist which could sell for years to come ..
If they let him go after his 2nd album so be it as hes already established himself and they can still pimp him later at Geffen ..But now being totalled removed from 50 and Dre before his second album even drops, is going to pose alot of ???? for consumers before the 2nd album even drops and the shit could flop bigg tyme .. Meaning Interscope lost a oppurtunity to set up another artist in his own right
That is of course unless 50 and Jimmy really wanted to ruin Games career altogether.. Game being off Aftermath and on Geffen would have worked just with Dres input and production...Nobody would care if the imprint changed as long as Dre was still involved in some capacity
Its very evident eminem had a influence on this as well ,especially since shady has been saying for a while they dont want to be involved in anything Game does .. So if you add 50 -G Unit and Shady thats a pretty strong alliance that Jimmy probably didnt want to risk pissing off
Might be time for Suge and Game to squash there beef lmao Those 2 2gether would be a nightmare for the industry !!!
As far as the common listener can tell, Game is cool with Em. He shouts him out all of the time, including on "120", one of the G-Unit disses. I remember there was a report circulating that Paul Rosenberg said Shady Records wouldn't continue to work with Game, but as far as I'm aware that could have been typed up by any random fan...
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detox is not coming is too one biased. always has been
fact: 50 said if dre works with the game again, then he's going to re-release the massacre as a double disc with the first disc being a new album so he can complete his contract and leave aftermath
fact: 50 said "of course dre isn't workin with game. how's he gonna work with game? if he works with him then that means me and dre got beef..."
fact: 50 is the one who started this beef. he could've easily expressed his concerns about game behind closed doors and ended his relationship with game without ever mentioning it. but he was the one who went on hot97 clowin game and put him in a position where he had to defend himself
fact: 50 and yayo are the ones who started the dissing AFTER 50 and game had the peace conference
so its fucked up that game got bullied off aftermath. if dre wants to drop someone he should drop both of them.
If somebody released "Fuck Baby G-Unot and his clique mixtape vol.1, 2, 3 and 4 + bonus DVD", wouldn't you blackball him and have him sacked from your label as well ?? :D
The strangest thing is that people are surprised, some of us predicted this months ago. :eh:
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Sad to see what label politics can do. I just find it ridiculous that these are grown men who we're talking about, who should be all about their business and doing what's good for themselves, instead they feel the need to keep doing this shit.
I'll always take it that 50 started this whole mess, as he should've never drawn first blood by making it public...he saw how well Game's album was doing, and he felt threatened seeing as how "The Massacre" was just weeks away from being released.
In my opinion, The Game should've stopped attacking G-Unit after summer 2005, but he kept going at it with them...that's what killed his status at Interscope, because 50 is the spoiled one on the label. It's whatever 50 wants, 50 gets...so if 50 wants Game off the team, then I'm not surprised if Game is on his own now.
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2 points number 1 a fan didnt type that up it was scanned from some magazine or online some where with other valid info //
Unfortunate things is the dvds the 2nd and 3rd installments of the mixxtapes all that shit came after the original press conference... which was probably masterminded by 50 as he wanted to keep it going..In games mind it was dead .. but he fell for the trap and may have to pay the price for it now...
That being said we all seem to forget that Jimmy has alot invested in 50 and eminem .. he helped bank roll shade 45 , he helped bank roll 8 mile and get rich .. so it shouldnt come to anybodies suprise that he would side with 50 and em and try and protect his investments..game doing all that nonsense is hurting jimmy iovines bottom line as well not just G Unit .. when G unit flops so does interscope.. And interscope owns the majority of aftermath the last time i checked unless dre bought back a portion which i doubt..
Interesting fact .. Ted field the guy who started interscope with jimmy helped bank roll 'waist deep'with game dont know if theres any connection there
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If it's true, I hope Game join forces with DPG and Snoop Dogg. Dre is all about his business. That was a bitch move but maybe a neccesary bitch move by Interscope. I'm sure Snoop will take Game under his wings.
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AL I GOT TO SAY DR DRE IS A BITCH ...............A SELL OUT .........TELL DRE TO GO TO FUCKING NEW YORK WITH HIS BITCH ASS ................IT SEEMS LIKE HE DONT EVEN WANA HELP THE WEST NO MORE ...HE RATHER PRODUCE AN ALBUM FOR EMINEM WACK ASS .............
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ITS OFFICIAL THAT AFTERMATH ARE A BUNCH OF STUDIO GANGSTERS......LOL
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sad to see
but it gives Game the opportunity to prove that he can make it w/o Aftermath and hopefully he'll be able to
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Not down with all this.
So who does that leave on aftermath? Eminem, 50 Cent, G unit, BUsta Rhymes, Raekwon, Eve and Bishop Lamount? That means bishop is the only westcoast act and i dont feel he's that good.
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Interscope has Cashis signed to shady an bishop to aftermath so in their minds they have enuff to cater to the west.. Games spot at aftermath probably would have only delayed bishop dropping anything anyways ..
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Problem is.. Dre doesn't call teh shots at Aftermath. Interscope does.
Aftermath ISNT real label.. its just a brand interscope puts on things Dre related. they own dre, they have since the death row days. remember when dre left death row.. the only thing that really left interscope in the end was death row.
Word, the only thing Aftermath is, is a 'Vanity' lable.
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this is depressing as shit. :-\
still, hoping for a fire album
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no surprise, fully expected.
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FUCK DR. DRE
dre a buster on the real, i usally dont get on that shit talkin or on this westcoast shit, but dre fuckin off hella west rappers, hittman, ice cube now game
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detox is not coming is too one biased. always has been
fact: 50 said if dre works with the game again, then he's going to re-release the massacre as a double disc with the first disc being a new album so he can complete his contract and leave aftermath
fact: 50 said "of course dre isn't workin with game. how's he gonna work with game? if he works with him then that means me and dre got beef..."
fact: 50 is the one who started this beef. he could've easily expressed his concerns about game behind closed doors and ended his relationship with game without ever mentioning it. but he was the one who went on hot97 clowin game and put him in a position where he had to defend himself
fact: 50 and yayo are the ones who started the dissing AFTER 50 and game had the peace conference
so its fucked up that game got bullied off aftermath. if dre wants to drop someone he should drop both of them.
co motherfucking sign!!! Couldn't have said it no better. I would like to see how most people would react in that situation. Your co-boss fires you on a radio station, his boss makes you "kiss and make up" and then turns back around and disses you again. Bottom line, 50 wanted Game to ride with him on the whole D-Block, Terror Squad beef with Ja over a song!!! When Game did not get involved, 50 got mad.
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
hah true.
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Some of y'all are some stupid, wack ass muthafuckaz, Aftermath Been Around Since 96-97 and y'all just noticed that its not a West Coast label?....the man is about making Good Music...its not a bout where the rapper is from its about dropping Good music all over the muthafucking world...SO STOP WITH THAT FUCK AFTERMATH & DR.DRE CUZ THEY DONT CARE BOUT THE WEST....
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Some of y'all are some stupid, wack ass muthafuckaz, Aftermath Been Around Since 96-97 and y'all just noticed that its not a West Coast label?....the man is about making Good Music...its not a bout where the rapper is from its about dropping Good music all over the muthafucking world...SO STOP WITH THAT FUCK AFTERMATH & DR.DRE CUZ THEY DONT CARE BOUT THE WEST....
calm down have a beer :beer:
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Some of y'all are some stupid, wack ass muthafuckaz, Aftermath Been Around Since 96-97 and y'all just noticed that its not a West Coast label?....the man is about making Good Music...its not a bout where the rapper is from its about dropping Good music all over the muthafucking world...SO STOP WITH THAT FUCK AFTERMATH & DR.DRE CUZ THEY DONT CARE BOUT THE WEST....
agreed! but this iz a westcoast forum and dre was a big westcoast representer.....if game is off the math...fuck it...we cant do shit about it anyways right? hopefully he'll find a good label where he can still make good music...
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Fuck Dre? What are you idiots talking about? Who cares. You don't even know the facts. If dre dropped game it was for a good reason, and dre done more for the west then any other person, and you say fuck him? idiots. game isn't even that good. good for dre, now game can really earn his career and make his own album without using dre/50 for a crutch.
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this is depressing as shit. :-\
still, hoping for a fire album
Dont worry it will be, hes still gona have the same producers from the documentary, exept from Dre.
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Some of y'all are some stupid, wack ass muthafuckaz, Aftermath Been Around Since 96-97 and y'all just noticed that its not a West Coast label?....the man is about making Good Music...its not a bout where the rapper is from its about dropping Good music all over the muthafucking world...SO STOP WITH THAT FUCK AFTERMATH & DR.DRE CUZ THEY DONT CARE BOUT THE WEST....
agreed! but this iz a westcoast forum and dre was a big westcoast representer.....if game is off the math...fuck it...we cant do shit about it anyways right? hopefully he'll find a good label where he can still make good music...
I feel ya but Dre aint no big West Coast Representer . Didnt Cj mac say " AInt you the nigga said gangsta rap dead ?? ANd Ran to New York to make beats instead !!!
True shit
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yup but dre produced the best tracks and the all important lead single.
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Where was the dre beats on cubes album?
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Not down with all this.
So who does that leave on aftermath? Eminem, 50 Cent, G unit, BUsta Rhymes, Raekwon, Eve and Bishop Lamount? That means bishop is the only westcoast act and i dont feel he's that good.
bishop lamont aint that good? put down the crack pipe lil guy and listen up. your opinion is shit. and it always will be.
west west yo! >:(
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Where was the dre beats on cubes album?
Nah im talking about who desrves them...
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Games fucked up. he aint got potential to drop a dope album on his own,if he does then he will prove not just to me but the whole world he is a legend, but till then i doubt the shit that will ever happen. ??? ??? ??? ???
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DAMN U NIGGAS ARE A BUNCHA WHINERS N CRYBABIES! STRAIGHT UP. GET GAME'S DICK OUT UR MOUTH! THE NIGGAS A BITCH. YA'LL ARE JUS HATIN ON DRE N 50 CUZ YA'LL A BUNCHA DICKRIDERS MAN. GAME MAKES GOOD MUSIC BUT YA'LL ACTIN LIKE UR LIFES OVER NOW THAT DRE AINT PRODUCIN FOR HIM.. IMO HE HAD IT COMING.. NIGGA WAS ACTING HOEISH AS SOON AS HE GOT DROPPED FROM G-UNIT.
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
No. But Dre is only singing new artists or really well respected.
And Papoose, Sagion, Jae Millz...>>> new westcoast artists
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lol why is he still calling it doctor's advocate
lol i know.
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i hope dre gives all those beats to snoop
maybe 400 bars will be aimed at dr dre?
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WARNING: THIS *COULD* BE BS. According to the report below, Game just inked a deal for Black Wall Street to go through Interscope Records. Is that really the kind of move they would make with a rapper who's been shifted to Geffen. Click the link below and read the excerpt nearer the bottom:
http://eurweb.com/story/eur26958.cfm
Of course, this doesn't PROVE that Dre's working on "The Doctor's Advocate", but it makes me all the more wary of the initial post.
One thing that got me thinking as to whether or not Game was off Aftermath a few months back was this, though: whatever happened to that amazing Aftermath chain he had with the labels "A' logo? He hasn't sported that chain in a long time, to my knowledge anyway.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't notice the Game article above had already been posted. However, I still think that, even if Game comes out on just BWS/Interscope, Dre could be involved.
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
No. But Dre is only singing new artists or really well respected.
And Papoose, Sagion, Jae Millz...>>> new westcoast artists
Papoose & Millz are highly overrated imo, Saigon is a beast tho.& from the west you got rappers like Ya Boy, Scipio, Bishop, Life, Flixx, Styliztik Jones & the whole YA crew.Overall I think the west has a better selection of new mc's & basically they seem more promising.
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man all new MC's suck, let's be honest...
not like I wanna say that but in reality there is no new artist that has even a fraction of superstar status, hell even regular status
the only one that has potential to appeal to more people is Game
I'm not even really a fan but I'd like him to drop some tight shit with Dre of course
but the people u mentioned above are not gonna fly with other people, don't even really fly in the west... no one knows who these guys are
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^I strongly disagree, new mc's are much more talented than most rappers who have been rapping for 10+ years now.I mean the new mc's might not blow up or anything, but when it comes to skills they are definately better.
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^I strongly disagree, new mc's are much more talented than most rappers who have been rapping for 10+ years now.I mean the new mc's might not blow up or anything, but when it comes to skills they are definately better.
ok that's ur opinion.... but as far as stepping aside and letting the ones u mentioned in, that's not gonna happen
and if it did it wouldnt be successful
just looking at it from the corporate view
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FUCK DR. DRE
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detox will be a major disapointment anyway, way 2 expected. Plus dre is gay, Game should do California love part X, without gay ass dre :sun:
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detox is not coming is too one biased. always has been
fact: 50 said if dre works with the game again, then he's going to re-release the massacre as a double disc with the first disc being a new album so he can complete his contract and leave aftermath
fact: 50 said "of course dre isn't workin with game. how's he gonna work with game? if he works with him then that means me and dre got beef..."
fact: 50 is the one who started this beef. he could've easily expressed his concerns about game behind closed doors and ended his relationship with game without ever mentioning it. but he was the one who went on hot97 clowin game and put him in a position where he had to defend himself
fact: 50 and yayo are the ones who started the dissing AFTER 50 and game had the peace conference
so its fucked up that game got bullied off aftermath. if dre wants to drop someone he should drop both of them.
If somebody released "Fuck Baby G-Unot and his clique mixtape vol.1, 2, 3 and 4 + bonus DVD", wouldn't you blackball him and have him sacked from your label as well ?? :D
The strangest thing is that people are surprised, some of us predicted this months ago. :eh:
keep in mind 50 said that he could "destroy game's career with 16 bars". so why not do it then? jay-z vs. cam'ron theory all over again
yep, like i said in the original post - all the clues where there. some people just dont believe shiet till it actually happens.
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I have a feeling we're gonna be saying: "think how dope this album would be with a couple of Dre beats" but it'll still bang. I'm sure Game will make a dope track about it too.
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
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Why all the fuss? Some of Game's biggest hits and best songs were not Dre produced.
When Dre dies, half of you cats are gona blow your brains out.
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
+1
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
No. But Dre is only singing new artists or really well respected.
And Papoose, Sagion, Jae Millz...>>> new westcoast artists
::) Saigon and Papoose have been around for years. That's like saying Crooked I, Sly Boogy, & Planet Asia>>>new east coast artists.
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
busta is not that good, he didn't impress me on this album. there were a few hot joints on the whole thing. raekwon is one of my favorite rappers but i'd rather see him over some traditional NY producers / underground producers beats (like the ghostface album) and see his album ACTUALLY COME OUT. 50 makes good hooks and song structure but he has garbage bars.
There is a lot of talent on the West... aside from the legitimate talent in the Bay, from the West there is Snoop's crew, Damani (his mixtape was better than most signed artists albums in the mainstream), Glasses (same with him), Spit Fiya (wack a lot but he has a dope flow), Young Hoggs, cats that he's already sorta worked with like Knoc and Shade Sheist, Dynamic Certified (their shit fits with dre), Roccett (I liked his mixtape more than most albums I'd heard over the past couple years too)... all these cats would go well over Dre beats, and I'd rather hear him with them than wack ass 50 or busta.
Jurassic 5, Blackalicous, Lyrics Born, Del, and some of those other underground cats from the west are tight too but I don't see their styles meshing with Dre beats.
EDIT: Oh yeah all the cats that are tight with J. Wells like Styliztik and Planet Asia are dope too, I think many of them would go well with dre.
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are you ok annie? would ya tell us, that you're ok!
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Why all the fuss? Some of Game's biggest hits and best songs were not Dre produced.
When Dre dies, half of you cats are gona blow your brains out.
your damn straight ill blow my brains out when he dies
@ UKnowWhatItIs, people are quickly becoming tired of gangsta rap, i know i am
and whether you people want to admit it or not, 50 is a better rapper than game
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Of course Dre dont fuck with that many westcoast rappers. Who besides Game, Bishop, Cube,X and Crook really deserve that spot ? Id rather hear Busta, 50 and Rae over Dre beats than all this new westcoast rappers.
Ok we get what you're saying - everyone on the westcoast is wack ::) Please...
No. But Dre is only singing new artists or really well respected.
And Papoose, Sagion, Jae Millz...>>> new westcoast artists
::) Saigon and Papoose have been around for years. That's like saying Crooked I, Sly Boogy, & Planet Asia>>>new east coast artists.
Saigon is dope but Papoose and Jae Millz are wack as fuck. I bump a lot of Papoose and he's a great mixtape artist but he can't put together a song worth shit. Busta and Swizz Beats basically gave him a hit with "Get Right," all he had to do was have a decent flow and not sound corny which he failed it. Papoose is dope lyrically but he yells and sound like he has a tough time staying on beat / fitting his rymes into the bars.
and I think that Game is a better rapper than 50 now, 50 can put together bridges, hooks, and songs better... and he was better than game is now during his power of the dollar days (lyrically and flow wise), but you can't tell me that some of the baby talk shit that he pulls out of his ass now is dope.
I have less of a problem with 50 as an artist as 50 as a businessman and the impact that he's had on this culture. to me corporate bullying isn't "gangsta," if you have a problem with somoene in hip hop that shit should stay on wax. on top of that he's got a double standard for everyone... he and yayo can take as many cheap shots as they want, but as soon as someone else does it or they work with an artist that he doesn't like, he does everything he can to discredit them or blackball them corporate style.
like nas, 50 was talking shit about nas as soon as he got popular! i remember he was talking shit about nas in one of his first dubcnn interviews, and he was obviously still in a homotional steroid rage about the j. lo thing every time it came up in interviews, despite nas helping 50 and holding it down for him when he was coming up. but as soon as nas called their music garbage at one of his concerts 50 unleashes his marketing plan on them. i respected the marketing plan (when it worked) and the hustle, but that corporate bullying shit doesn't sit well with me. i know in reality it interferes with the art but i don't want to support artists that encourage that.
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All valid points but if it is tru its a bad business move for intrscope .. ..Keeping Game connected with Dre for this album at least would have helped Interscope establish another platinum artist which could sell for years to come ..
If they let him go after his 2nd album so be it as hes already established himself and they can still pimp him later at Geffen ..But now being totalled removed from 50 and Dre before his second album even drops, is going to pose alot of ???? for consumers before the 2nd album even drops and the shit could flop bigg tyme .. Meaning Interscope lost a oppurtunity to set up another artist in his own right
I agree with that but 50 is a bigger seller that they don't want to lose. At this point they will play out 50 till he turns into Ja-Rule and then drop him.
That is of course unless 50 and Jimmy really wanted to ruin Games career altogether.. Game being off Aftermath and on Geffen would have worked just with Dres input and production...Nobody would care if the imprint changed as long as Dre was still involved in some capacity
I'm guessing Geffen probably paid a nice sum to get the rights to Game from Interscope.
Might be time for Suge and Game to squash there beef lmao Those 2 2gether would be a nightmare for the industry !!!
Noooo! Suge is a cancer that hasn't been able to do anything worthy since Tupac died.
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Game isnt on the Carson Daily show until this coming thursday, june 22...dude is probably just starting some shit.
http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html
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I HOPE THIS IS BULLSHIT. game + dre = crack
Compton westcoast g- shit dont fuck wit good music
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dre is pathetic
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gotta love threads like this where everyone on the forum is an expert.
the reality is we are on an internet message board - NO ONE on here knows the full story for certain.
Its stupid to make assumptions on what will happen and who runs what ... Dre is owned by Interscope? That so? Games on Geffen, Games on Interscope, Games been dumped etc 50 Cent & Eminem both hate Game and want nothing to do with him? Really? Jimmy this, 50 Cent that ... all rumours.
Whats the truth of the matter? I don't know. ;D
But I guarantee that this thread contains the following: some truth, some half truth, some complete bullshit, and some stuff made up to get a rise out of other members.
My OPINION:
1. it would be in Interscope's best interest to have Dre work with Game.
2. Dre will work with who he wants, not who he is told to work with [by either 50 or interscope].
3. Game can still make a solid album without Dre, some of his best work is very much Dre-less
That'll do for now ... 8)
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Supposedly this is not true. LOL at everyone saying "fuck Dre".
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
Wrong bitch! 50 didnt stop him & gunit were taking shots at him on radio & in magazine interviews so Game replied
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
Wrong bitch! 50 didnt stop him & gunit were taking shots at him on radio & in magazine interviews so Game replied
Theres a difference in "taking shots" and releasing 30 disses per week.
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
Wrong bitch! 50 didnt stop him & gunit were taking shots at him on radio & in magazine interviews so Game replied
lol... take it easy, gangsta. Dont shoot me with your internet AK-47 ::)
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You guys wouldn't even know or like Game if it wasn't for Dre. Yall wouldn't be talking about Game if it wasn't for Dre. Game has one album... and that's it. Dre has a whole fucking career and yall are sayin' fuck Dre? lol @ the stupidity of this board.
also... when Dre told them to stop with this beef... 50 stopped, Game didn't... Game kept beefin' on mix-tape after mix-tape and even made a dvd for this beef. Game has also been making alot of enemies inside Aftermath and Intercope that I'm not aloud to comment on.
Yall are bitchin' and moanin' just 'cause he's from the west coast. ::)
Wrong bitch! 50 didnt stop him & gunit were taking shots at him on radio & in magazine interviews so Game replied
Theres a difference in "taking shots" and releasing 30 disses per week.
haha yea, and a dvd
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oh my bad didnt no it was fake .. your right thought Game put himself in a bad position he doesnt get alon with any1 but still 50 shouldnt have put dre in that position .. He should know his position Dre his boss not the other way around ... If dre choses to work with someone thats his choice not 50s to make
other thread says game is due on carson on the 22nd so who knows
Lol what makes everyone think Dre was forced to do this ? He was already pissed at Game for starting to diss 50, when he told them to shut the fuck up.
Get off 50's Dicc Man! 50's a bitch...This the same nigga that wouldnt give his boy 40,000 of HIS OWN MONEY MIND YOU, right after Get Rich and Die Tryin had just done like its first 5 mill, and he couldnt get his boy outta jail, Cuz a bitch homie. If Dre dont work with Game he gone regret it.
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oh my bad didnt no it was fake .. your right thought Game put himself in a bad position he doesnt get alon with any1 but still 50 shouldnt have put dre in that position .. He should know his position Dre his boss not the other way around ... If dre choses to work with someone thats his choice not 50s to make
other thread says game is due on carson on the 22nd so who knows
Lol what makes everyone think Dre was forced to do this ? He was already pissed at Game for starting to diss 50, when he told them to shut the fuck up.
Get off 50's Dicc Man! 50's a bitch...This the same nigga that wouldnt give his boy 40,000 of HIS OWN MONEY MIND YOU, right after Get Rich and Die Tryin had just done like its first 5 mill, and he couldnt get his boy outta jail, Cuz a bitch homie. If Dre dont work with Game he gone regret it.
Ok, you've completley changed my mind now. Go Game.
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its pretty obvious 50 started the beef and BOTH game and 50 didnt listen to dre when they was told to stop.......however....imma be more dissapointed in dre if he chooses not to work with game and work with 50........thats a bitch move........if he aint puttin work in for game, then he shouldnt for 50 aswell, he'll look like 50 owns him and make dre look like a bitch, also dre should support game anyways since the cat from his own town, he produced a bunch of tracks on the documentary, dre should not just punk out on the cat now........either way, imma be coppin games next joint
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its pretty obvious 50 started the beef and BOTH game and 50 didnt listen to dre when they was told to stop.......however....imma be more dissapointed in dre if he chooses not to work with game and work with 50........thats a bitch move........if he aint puttin work in for game, then he shouldnt for 50 aswell, he'll look like 50 owns him and make dre look like a bitch, also dre should support game anyways since the cat from his own town, he produced a bunch of tracks on the documentary, dre should not just punk out on the cat now........either way, imma be coppin games next joint
truth
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^ thats ain't the truth. What has 50 done since last spring? A movie, Yayos album, Mobb deeps album, 5 or 6 singles wth videos, a full OST, and banks new album, and signed a new artist. What has game done since last spring? Jack all, he lost his BWS artists, and all hes really done is diss g-unit over and over. 50 been quiet with the beef the most part over the last 4 months, game didn't quit. if you had an artist continually dissing some of your top money making artists you'd drop them too.
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Get off 50's Dicc Man! 50's a bitch...This the same nigga that wouldnt give his boy 40,000 of HIS OWN MONEY MIND YOU, right after Get Rich and Die Tryin had just done like its first 5 mill, and he couldnt get his boy outta jail, Cuz a bitch homie. If Dre dont work with Game he gone regret it.
And Game's not a bitch? Haven't you read that interview with Big Fase 100? This is the same nigga that let his brother and all of his homies (the same cats who "certified his gangster" to help him sell records) live in poverty while he sold over 2 million records in the U.S. alone. Why do you think his own hood and his own record label (BWS) turned against him? If that ain't a bitch move, I dunno what else is.
50 and Game are both bitches, IMO, but at least 50 ain't as obsessed with this beef as Game is. And Game has released some good diss tracks, but it wouldn't be so pathetic if it wasn't obvious he's just trying to keep himself in the limelight because he's insecure about the future of his career. He knows damn well that "The Documentary" wouldn't have sold so many records if he didn't have 50 guesting on his two biggest hit singles, and now that he's not with them, he's worried about his prospects for longevity.
So I'm sorry, but Game has nobody to blame but himself for all this bullshit. This whole idea of "50 started it, therefore it's OK if Game keeps it up" is just childish. I would like to see Game and Dre keep working together as much as anyone else, but the bottom line is that Game's gotta start acting like a man, not like a child, and take responsibility for his actions. If he wants to keep up his career, he needs to get in where the paper at, and beefing with 50 ain't it.
BTW, you're a Compton Loc, remember? I dunno what relations are between Palmer Blocc and Cedar Block, but why the hell would you be defending a Piru?
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Get off 50's Dicc Man! 50's a bitch...This the same nigga that wouldnt give his boy 40,000 of HIS OWN MONEY MIND YOU, right after Get Rich and Die Tryin had just done like its first 5 mill, and he couldnt get his boy outta jail, Cuz a bitch homie. If Dre dont work with Game he gone regret it.
And Game's not a bitch? Haven't you read that interview with Big Fase 100? This is the same nigga that let his brother and all of his homies (the same cats who "certified his gangster" to help him sell records) live in poverty while he sold over 2 million records in the U.S. alone. Why do you think his own hood and his own record label (BWS) turned against him? If that ain't a bitch move, I dunno what else is.
50 and Game are both bitches, IMO, but at least 50 ain't as obsessed with this beef as Game is. And Game has released some good diss tracks, but it wouldn't be so pathetic if it wasn't obvious he's just trying to keep himself in the limelight because he's insecure about the future of his career. He knows damn well that "The Documentary" wouldn't have sold so many records if he didn't have 50 guesting on his two biggest hit singles, and now that he's not with them, he's worried about his prospects for longevity.
So I'm sorry, but Game has nobody to blame but himself for all this bullshit. This whole idea of "50 started it, therefore it's OK if Game keeps it up" is just childish. I would like to see Game and Dre keep working together as much as anyone else, but the bottom line is that Game's gotta start acting like a man, not like a child, and take responsibility for his actions. If he wants to keep up his career, he needs to get in where the paper at, and beefing with 50 ain't it.
BTW, you're a Compton Loc, remember? I dunno what relations are between Palmer Blocc and Cedar Block, but why the hell would you be defending a Piru?
+1
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Why all the fuss? Some of Game's biggest hits and best songs were not Dre produced.
When Dre dies, half of you cats are gona blow your brains out.
hahaha ain't that the truth, I can already see it now
How can anyone say fuck Dre? Dre created west coast rap for the most part.
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Well, without knowing the validity of this, i'll make my own comments:
1) Interscope is in the BUSINESS of selling records. The #1 goal of any business is maximizing shareholder wealth. I don't know the exact sales of Game or G-Unit, but I know G-Unit def has resulted in more units sold than Game by a huge margin. There is no doubt that if the label's hand was forced by 50, they're gonna take his side because he has earned them exponentially more money than Game has. Business never personal from that standpoint - it's simple logistics.
2) Dre is owned by Interscope. He has as much control and say as they allow him to. Nobody knows what his and Games relationship is, might be great or it might be strained. Calling Dre a bitch here is a shot in the dark because nobody has any idea what the true scenario is. All you Game groupies need to realize that Dre exposed Game to the world and put him in the position to realize the success that he's had thus far. So hating Dre is pretty naive.
3) I think if Game moves on to somewhere else, it will be for the greater good. If he goes platinum plus, it gives Geffen a flagship hip hop artist, simultaneously taking a multi-plat artist away from Interscope. In my opinion, Interscope's industry domination isn't good for hip hop so anything that shakes that up would good. I would be happy to hear that Dre was dropping beats on his next album, but like some peeps said, he made good tracks w/o him. His rapping on his mixtapes has improved drastically - almost to the point where you don't care who the producer is. To me, that's a very good sign. I hope Game is jaded and focuses all that energy into his next album.
4) Ultimately, it's just another example of corporate politics interfering with the art. I wish Dre would go independant and work with whoever on whatever projects he chose. Be more creative and not as formulaic. You know he's got countless millions at this point, and his legend is unsurpassed by very few in the hip hop world. But obviously Dre has been on Interscope for years, so obviously he hasn't had a big enough problem with any politics up to this point. So I don't ever see him leaving, but I'd like it for nothing more of him breaking out of his mold.
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Well, without knowing the validity of this, i'll make my own comments:
1) Interscope is in the BUSINESS of selling records. The #1 goal of any business is maximizing shareholder wealth. I don't know the exact sales of Game or G-Unit, but I know G-Unit def has resulted in more units sold than Game by a huge margin. There is no doubt that if the label's hand was forced by 50, they're gonna take his side because he has earned them exponentially more money than Game has. Business never personal from that standpoint - it's simple logistics.
Thats true but i think Game sold 4 million. %0 cent definly beats that but if were talking g unit id ont think they come close to the 4 million mark. Loyd banks i htink did well for himself but yayo and buck probably only went gold wich is 500 000
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Well, without knowing the validity of this, i'll make my own comments:
1) Interscope is in the BUSINESS of selling records. The #1 goal of any business is maximizing shareholder wealth. I don't know the exact sales of Game or G-Unit, but I know G-Unit def has resulted in more units sold than Game by a huge margin. There is no doubt that if the label's hand was forced by 50, they're gonna take his side because he has earned them exponentially more money than Game has. Business never personal from that standpoint - it's simple logistics.
Thats true but i think Game sold 4 million. %0 cent definly beats that but if were talking g unit id ont think they come close to the 4 million mark. Loyd banks i htink did well for himself but yayo and buck probably only went gold wich is 500 000
Yeah but the rest of GUnit aint on Aftermath. They are just GUnit/Interscope. Just like Game will be with Geffen. Dunno why people are complaining. Hell get his album out in normal time, he just wont have Dre taking care of it. We'll see how the whole thing turns out to be. Im not even worried about production. Im worried about Game starting to have weak lyrics again, since Tech left BWS.
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Nah man hes still gonna have tight lyrics. IM not worried about the production either, hes still gona have good beats. Altho Dre did a monsta work on busta rhymes album not beats but more the hole album thing.
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As far as Game being able to do well without Dre's beats, we'll have to see about that. I agree with the people who say he's proven himself to be a capable MC - his diss tracks, as annoying as they are, have demonstrated he's got major potential.
But the fact is, Dre and especially 50 played a significant role in his success - do y'all think it's really just a coincidence that his two biggest singles are those that had 50 on the hook? "Dreams" did pretty well, but it only hit #32 on the Pop 100, while both "How We Do" and "Hate It Or Love It" were controlling the Top 5 for months. And of course, we need not even mention "Put You On The Game", which didn't even chart at all.
Don't any of y'all think that says something about Game? And don't y'all think he's insecure knowing that his biggest rival is the same man who was most directly responsible for his own commercial success?
Thats true but i think Game sold 4 million. %0 cent definly beats that but if were talking g unit id ont think they come close to the 4 million mark. Loyd banks i htink did well for himself but yayo and buck probably only went gold wich is 500 000
Game sold Double Platinum (2 million) in the U.S. Buck and Banks both went Platinum, Yayo ain't at Gold yet (though he might get there in a while), and Mobb Deep will almost surely never go Gold. Check the RIAA site for all that. Even though G-Unit is falling off right now, 50 is still a proven artist, which is a lot more than we can say for Game right now.
Also, you forget that "The Documentary" was a G-Unit release and 50 was an executive producer on that album, which means that he's getting paid off Game's success. Remember how he's repeatedly bragged that he makes more money from "The Documentary" than Game himself does? Keep that in mind when you talk about Game's success, and why Iovine favors 50 above Game.
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Well, without knowing the validity of this, i'll make my own comments:
1) Interscope is in the BUSINESS of selling records. The #1 goal of any business is maximizing shareholder wealth. I don't know the exact sales of Game or G-Unit, but I know G-Unit def has resulted in more units sold than Game by a huge margin. There is no doubt that if the label's hand was forced by 50, they're gonna take his side because he has earned them exponentially more money than Game has. Business never personal from that standpoint - it's simple logistics.
Thats true but i think Game sold 4 million. %0 cent definly beats that but if were talking g unit id ont think they come close to the 4 million mark. Loyd banks i htink did well for himself but yayo and buck probably only went gold wich is 500 000
Yeah but the rest of GUnit aint on Aftermath. They are just GUnit/Interscope. Just like Game will be with Geffen. Dunno why people are complaining. Hell get his album out in normal time, he just wont have Dre taking care of it. We'll see how the whole thing turns out to be. Im not even worried about production. Im worried about Game starting to have weak lyrics again, since Tech left BWS.
Which is why I said INTERSCOPE. If Interscope feels like they are forced to choose G-Unit or BWS to remain under their umbrella, G-Unit stays everytime. It has been much more lucrative having G-Unit than Game (which includes 50's solos). That doesn't discount the fact that i'd probably be more likely to check for a new Game CD over 50/Buck/Banks at this point. But from a business standpoint, I understand their move.
As far as Game being able to do well without Dre's beats, we'll have to see about that. I agree with the people who say he's proven himself to be a capable MC - his diss tracks, as annoying as they are, have demonstrated he's got major potential.
But the fact is, Dre and especially 50 played a significant role in his success - do y'all think it's really just a coincidence that his two biggest singles are those that had 50 on the hook? "Dreams" did pretty well, but it only hit #32 on the Pop 100, while both "How We Do" and "Hate It Or Love It" were controlling the Top 5 for months. And of course, we need not even mention "Put You On The Game", which didn't even chart at all.
Don't any of y'all think that says something about Game? And don't y'all think he's insecure knowing that his biggest rival is the same man who was most directly responsible for his own commercial success?
Game sold Double Platinum (2 million) in the U.S. Buck and Banks both went Platinum, Yayo ain't at Gold yet (though he might get there in a while), and Mobb Deep will almost surely never go Gold. Check the RIAA site for all that. Even though G-Unit is falling off right now, 50 is still a proven artist, which is a lot more than we can say for Game right now.
Also, you forget that "The Documentary" was a G-Unit release and 50 was an executive producer on that album, which means that he's getting paid off Game's success. Remember how he's repeatedly bragged that he makes more money from "The Documentary" than Game himself does? Keep that in mind when you talk about Game's success, and why Iovine favors 50 above Game.
It's hard to predict how this album will do. Like I said, I'll check for Game even if Dre and 50 aren't there. By going double plat in the states and something like 4x plat worldwide, he has a very soliid fanbase. Obviously Game outselling Banks / Buck / Yayo (not combined - head to head) says something - since they all had 50 on their lead singles. I think the obvious difference is gonna be the fact that Dre isn't gonna be doing any beats on this one. If the other G-Unit affiliates get a top notch Dre beat a la "In Da Club" or "How We Do" I think they could have hit the 2x plat mark.
I think if Game busts his ass to make a good album he can do platinum numbers. He needs to put this beef completely behind and focus on being dope on the mic. He should not hype so much, just make dope shit and let the music speak for itself.
Also, while 50 and G-Unit have argueably been the biggest selling name in hip hop the last few years, there have been definite signs that their popularity is waning a bit. Declining sales, delays, shelved albums, even down right flops prove that shit ain't all gravy. 50's golden touch ain't quite what it was, so they're vulnerable. If the general public doesn't support them as much, that can only help Game.
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Jrome is on point.
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im not saying another word until the show airs then ill speak on it.
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So we still dont know if this is true or not?....Whats Game's website saying? Or the Aftermath website?.....Im not posting my opinion until i find out the facts. And LOL at the guy who was saying 50 is a better rapper than Game.....no wonder ur gona blow ur brains out, i would 2.
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OK first off i have no seen this "news" ANYwhere else on the internet besides boards... Second Game is gonna sell with or without dre sooo.... :-\ 8)
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OK first off i have no seen this "news" ANYwhere else on the internet besides boards... Second Game is gonna sell with or without dre sooo.... :-\ 8)
exactly, but everyone should watch the carson daly show on June 23, @ 1:35 a.m. PT
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detox will be a major disapointment anyway, way 2 expected. Plus dre is gay, Game should do California love part X, without gay ass dre :sun:
:D
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people are such dick riders for the game its insane
imagine if 50 had a brother who came up and dissed 50 by saying that all that shit hes talking about being gangsta is from him and that 50 was just retelling his brothers life story
everybody here would be going on and on and on about that
but that shit happens to game and half of his fan base is like its all good hes just talented ::)
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Obviously Game outselling Banks / Buck / Yayo (not combined - head to head) says something - since they all had 50 on their lead singles. I think the obvious difference is gonna be the fact that Dre isn't gonna be doing any beats on this one. If the other G-Unit affiliates get a top notch Dre beat a la "In Da Club" or "How We Do" I think they could have hit the 2x plat mark.
Indeed, Dre beats does have a lot to do with it as well. I think in Buck's case, it was working with Lil Jon (in 2004, when Lil Jon's beats were still on fire) that made the difference - "Shorty Wanna Ride" was his biggest crossover hit, after all. You are right that having a 50 hook doesn't guarantee success by itself (or else Yayo would be Platinum by now), but I still think it's hard to say that Game by himself had the most responsibility for his album's success. The fact is, his lyrics on "The Documentary" made him come across as little more than some cat who dickrides famous/legendary rappers while tagging behind 50 and Dre.
Also, while 50 and G-Unit have argueably been the biggest selling name in hip hop the last few years, there have been definite signs that their popularity is waning a bit. Declining sales, delays, shelved albums, even down right flops prove that shit ain't all gravy. 50's golden touch ain't quite what it was, so they're vulnerable. If the general public doesn't support them as much, that can only help Game.
I dunno how much the beef hurts their support. The general public isn't caught up on the beefs the way we hip-hop heads are. 50's decline in popularity has to do with over-saturation, not his beef with Game. Game's career, on the other hand, is clearly suffering because of this beef not because of what the public thinks, but because Dre and Iovine are pissed off about him keeping it up.
I don't expect either 50 or Game to start flopping themselves immediately (the way G-Unit's other artists are) because they still have solid fanbases that should last them another two albums at least, but they both need to put the beef behind them and focus on the music (like you said). That's what's going to determine their longevity.
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Tell Me Please Why Ya Spitin' Shit About The Game.
he didnt announced nuthin' please shut the fuck up next time
i didnt know ya ass was a fortune taller.
the game is on the show in the 22.6
a proof to show that what this Dude said was a lie
http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/
Dont Believe The Hype.
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people are such dick riders for the game its insane
imagine if 50 had a brother who came up and dissed 50 by saying that all that shit hes talking about being gangsta is from him and that 50 was just retelling his brothers life story
everybody here would be going on and on and on about that
but that shit happens to game and half of his fan base is like its all good hes just talented ::)
LOL, that's what I been saying all along. I realize this is DubCC, but it's annoying as hell how many posters are on Game's dick here. Everybody's talkin bout how Game ruined 50's street cred and conquered G-Unot...well, what about Big Fase ruining Game's street cred in that interview? Not to mention Game's entire hood (Cedar Block) and label (BWS) turning against him? You gotta be a stupid muthafucka to get your own brother and your own clique angry at you, but Game has done just that.
And still, these cats ain't saying shit about that...
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Aint TRL (Total Request LIVE) a live show?
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^ he's not goin to be on TRL he's goin to be on The Carson Daily show.
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Dre probably not executive producing the album either which means, without Dre's guidance, this album will probably be a piece of shit.
lol
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1st message but fuck it
this is good for game in my opinion
some of the good rappers have had label problems and came out good hope its the same for game.
dr.dre and ruthless and deathrow
50 and virgin or watever label he was droped from
snoop and deathrow
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1st message but fuck it
this is good for game in my opinion
some of the good rappers have had label problems and came out good hope its the same for game.
dr.dre and ruthless and deathrow
50 and virgin or watever label he was droped from
snoop and deathrow
Welcome to the DCC!
You get a "welcome" prop. ;D
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If this is the case, then why isnt The Game saying: Fuck Dre etc?? Im pretty sure he would if Dre choose´s 50 as his main protege. We all know The Game´s menatlity and this isnt like him at all..
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might not be such a bad thing, cause everything Dre produced on the lastest Busta rhymes cd is garbage
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If this is the case, then why isnt The Game saying: Fuck Dre etc?? Im pretty sure he would if Dre choose´s 50 as his main protege. We all know The Game´s menatlity and this isnt like him at all..
I don't think Game is gonna diss Dre no matter what happens he's been dissing G-Unit for the last 3 mixtapes and I think he knows people grew tired of it no sense in starting all that dissing again, besides I also think Dre is a different situation for Game he'd probably be cool about it and let it slide...
Oh btw the Kurupt quote in your sig is from Smooth not from Dogg Pound Gangstaz... 8)
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I take everything bakk dude aint lyin this is real !!!! oh well at least bws got a home .. And im sure if this projet does well Game and dre will collab some where down the line again ..
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
how did game start the beef? he didnt want to start beef and then he got dropped and at that point aint no man gonna take that, but game should have drawn a line and quit while he was aheadTell Me Please Why Ya Spitin' Shit About The Game.
he didnt announced nuthin' please shut the fuck up next time
i didnt know ya ass was a fortune taller.
the game is on the show in the 22.6
a proof to show that what this Dude said was a lie
http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/
Dont Believe The Hype.
thats what i was thinking june 22 game is on carson daly
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The Game is scheduled to be on 106 & park on Thursday, so lets see what he has to say.
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Lol and people blaiming 50 Cent. Its Games falut just as much as it is 50s.
And a big LOL to people dissing Dre. Who would you pick? A dude that brought you millions or a kid that started this whole pointless beef and continues to do it ?
Time to change the album title :D
how did game start the beef? he didnt want to start beef and then he got dropped and at that point aint no man gonna take that, but game should have drawn a line and quit while he was aheadTell Me Please Why Ya Spitin' Shit About The Game.
he didnt announced nuthin' please shut the fuck up next time
i didnt know ya ass was a fortune taller.
the game is on the show in the 22.6
a proof to show that what this Dude said was a lie
http://www.nbc.com/Last_Call_with_Carson_Daly/
Dont Believe The Hype.
thats what i was thinking june 22 game is on carson daly
yes i have already stated that i have talked to people who went to the live recording of the show and said that, but it is unofficial.
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its not a lie whether he herd it at the show or otherwise its official .. game aint on the math .. i ddint believe it at first either but trust me its real .. im still a lil shocked but bws and interscope are now together :o :o