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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: nateandmiles on December 31, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
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Lets discuss this heat far as best from the West. Who ripped it between the 3? Beat is classic no doubt courtesy of Daz Dillinger
Winner here is Xzibit ..that nikka killt it. He hardest from the West!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oaGfYG-kY
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classic track, all 3 went in...Kurupts verse is actually from an unreleased Death Row Dogg Pound track "I Roc Mics"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQXpYHKAvxw
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Yeah this is a classic.. and this was when Xzibit had that underground buzz during that long run-up to him dropping the Restless album. He was a big part of the West resurgence. Good times
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Kiler song
''this is the art of manslaughter...''
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So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era
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So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era
Yes X killt it . The direct descendant of the gatlin gun ....
Matter of fact to segue into posse cats, Kurupt always gets chewed. Ref "I got my mind made up". Method Man killt it.
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Initiated. Fatal Hussein killt it. Kurupt never shone on a posse cat. Thats not his lane.
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Initiated. Fatal Hussein killt it. Kurupt never shone on a posse cat. Thats not his lane.
Yes X killt it . The direct descendant of the gatlin gun ....
Matter of fact to segue into posse cats, Kurupt always gets chewed. Ref "I got my mind made up". Method Man killt it.
you're joking right?
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Kiler song
''this is the art of manslaughter...''
That was the first line that came to mind for me so Crooked I wins! lol
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That was the first line that came to mind for me so Crooked I wins! lol
"when I'm rockin I'm more shocking than dropping a boom box in bath water"...damn
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So who killed it the most... I say wasn’t nobody out West really fuccin wit X in that 2nd West Resurgence era
All have great verses, but I like Crooked I's the most.
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crook was a monster from 98-02
he still is but he started gettin a lil too technical wit his raps after leavin death row
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crook was a monster from 98-02
he still is but he started gettin a lil too technical wit his raps after leavin death row
Not that I like Crook as much as Royce, but still it's like Slaughterhouse was a "throw all the best lyricists who can't figure out how to put together on an album so they can also fail to put together a solid group album"
...I mean thank God that Em had Royce on that Bad Meetz Evil EP. That got him a gold record and a solid album. Because it always pisses me off that a cat that talented never could see an album all the way through and bang out a classic.
I mean Royce and Crook in the same category as Canibus. Yet, Canibus has two solid albums in his catalogue. Canibus and BC2000 are both very quality, well put together albums. One with Wyclef and one without Wyclef. So... if Canibus could do it in that era why not Royce and Crooked?
Same with Rass Kass. I mean these cats are all same category. Yet Rass Kass managed to put together one classic--Soul On Ice--and Rassasination is a solid album as well. So again.. why the fucc couldn't Royce do it? I mean they are all cut from the same cloth.
Just disapointing... cause that bootleg shit of Royce from 99-2001 material if just compiled right was a classic to boot
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Not that I like Crook as much as Royce, but still it's like Slaughterhouse was a "throw all the best lyricists who can't figure out how to put together on an album so they can also fail to put together a solid group album"
...I mean thank God that Em had Royce on that Bad Meetz Evil EP. That got him a gold record and a solid album. Because it always pisses me off that a cat that talented never could see an album all the way through and bang out a classic.
I mean Royce and Crook in the same category as Canibus. Yet, Canibus has two solid albums in his catalogue. Canibus and BC2000 are both very quality, well put together albums. One with Wyclef and one without Wyclef. So... if Canibus could do it in that era why not Royce and Crooked?
Same with Rass Kass. I mean these cats are all same category. Yet Rass Kass managed to put together one classic--Soul On Ice--and Rassasination is a solid album as well. So again.. why the fucc couldn't Royce do it? I mean they are all cut from the same cloth.
Just disapointing... cause that bootleg shit of Royce from 99-2001 material if just compiled right was a classic to boot
royce has a really dope album .... check out his album “prhyme” .. entirely produced by dj premier
same with crook .. his album “statik kxng” was some great stuff
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royce has a really dope album .... check out his album “prhyme” .. entirely produced by dj premier
same with crook .. his album “statik kxng” was some great stuff
Would you put "prhyme" or "statik Kxng" up there with any of the albums I mentioned...
-The 99-2001 Bootleg Royce disc (you sent me actually ;D)
-Rass Kass - Soul On Ice
-Bad Meetz Evil EP
-Canibus - Can-I-Bus or BC2000
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^its on par or better than everything u listed outside of soul on ice, which was a classic
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^its on par or better than everything u listed outside of soul on ice, which was a classic
maybe you right, but it's just hard for me to get into anything that came out after Nas dropped Hip-Hop is Dead in 07
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maybe you right, but it's just hard for me to get into anything that came out after Nas dropped Hip-Hop is Dead in 07
sounds mental
you’ve built an imaginary barricade that only exists in your mind with an exact date on rap projects
fascinating homie
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sounds mental
you’ve built an imaginary barricade that only exists in your mind with an exact date on rap projects
fascinating homie
Yo.. check the name on the sig I'm Infinite Trapped in 96 homie!!
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Yo.. check the name on the sig I'm Infinite Trapped in 96 homie!!
I agree that the 90's era was the best in terms of quality music
many artists are still releasing heat though you just have to look harder for it
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I agree that the 90's era was the best in terms of quality music
many artists are still releasing heat though you just have to look harder for it
I don't think ya'll understand what I'm saying--I am literally stuck in a time warp... My true love moved away and left me and Pac got murdered in the same week and my heart broke, and I ain't ever been the same since, I just got stuck there and never moved on... I am not of this rhyme...
...and I am not finna waste my time forcing trash music from a trash era down... when there is still so much to discover and uncover from the golden eras. You know it wasn't until just last week that I really bumped Biz Markie? Sure I knew him, and had seen him in numerous videos, interviews, documentaries, bits and pieces, etc... but I mean actually sit and give a serious listen through his music with all my focus and attention I had never done that until just last week..
They say ODB is the ol dirty bastard but he ain't a bastard (I'm a bastard my bio father was an anonymous sperm donor artificial insemination I'm more bastard than he is)... ODB has a father--- the father to his style is BIZ MARKIE!! Go check out some Biz Markie in depth and then go back and watch ODB again through the lens of Biz.. even U-God said it
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I don't think ya'll understand what I'm saying--I am literally stuck in a time warp... My true love moved away and left me and Pac got murdered in the same week and my heart broke, and I ain't ever been the same since, I just got stuck there and never moved on... I am not of this rhyme...
...and I am not finna waste my time forcing trash music from a trash era down... when there is still so much to discover and uncover from the golden eras. You know it wasn't until just last week that I really bumped Biz Markie? Sure I knew him, and had seen him in numerous videos, interviews, documentaries, bits and pieces, etc... but I mean actually sit and give a serious listen through his music with all my focus and attention I had never done that until just last week..
They say ODB is the ol dirty bastard but he ain't a bastard (I'm a bastard my bio father was an anonymous sperm donor artificial insemination I'm more bastard than he is)... ODB has a father--- the father to his style is BIZ MARKIE!! Go check out some Biz Markie in depth and then go back and watch ODB again through the lens of Biz.. even U-God said it
I never was really a fan of the Bay Area music of the 90's, I went back in recent years and listened to 40, Short, Spice 1, Luniz and learned to appreciate them as well
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I never was really a fan of the Bay Area music of the 90's, I went back in recent years and listened to 40, Short, Spice 1, Luniz and learned to appreciate them as well
Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate. In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back
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Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate. In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back
Sub par and 3rd rate? You need to clean your fuckin' ears. I don't think you understand how stupid this shit makes you look.
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Sub par and 3rd rate? You need to clean your fuckin' ears. I don't think you understand how stupid this shit makes you look.
it’s infinite .... one far hell check mac dre the way he did biz markie. maybe in 2033.
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Bay Area shit is like No Limit to me... sub par and 3rd rate. In fact it’s about like KC rap and Kansas City and the Bay always had a link I even had a girlfriend that was E-40’s cousin some years back
not a fan of No Limit so Im not really going to comment on them
as far as the Bay they basically got no airplay here in NYC even on mix shows...Luniz "I Got 5 On It" being the exception. My only exposure came through The Box and BET Rap City. I did get the Luniz single and Rappin 4-Tays "Ain't No Playa" at the local mom and pop near my house. I gave the Bay a chance sometime around the late 2000s and discovered I really dug their style. I still prefer LA rap but expanded my horizons
anyway maybe the Bay is not your cup of tea but to call them 3rd rate is pretty much an insult when they have as many legends as any region
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Infinite shitted on this thread. Pimp of the year
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not a fan of No Limit so Im not really going to comment on them
as far as the Bay they basically got no airplay here in NYC even on mix shows...Luniz "I Got 5 On It" being the exception. My only exposure came through The Box and BET Rap City. I did get the Luniz single and Rappin 4-Tays "Ain't No Playa" at the local mom and pop near my house. I gave the Bay a chance sometime around the late 2000s and discovered I really dug their style. I still prefer LA rap but expanded my horizons
anyway maybe the Bay is not your cup of tea but to call them 3rd rate is pretty much an insult when they have as many legends as any region
have as many legends as any region? Please stack up their legends to legends from L.A. or N.Y., there is no comparison... or take just Queensbridge alone, or Atlanta, if you want to be more fair...
I was a fan of Rappin 4 Tay "I'll Be There" and "PLayer's Club" in the day, Too Short "Gettin It"... some of my all time favorite songs. But that's not saying much. I still say they are 3rd rate just like I say No Limit is 3rd rate. I'm not hating on them. No Limit, I was a big fan of the I'm Bout It project both the movie and album. I also bumped a lot of there other shit is just didn't age well.
I do put them behind East Coast, West Coast, Atlanta, Detroit. But in their defense I do put them ahead of anything Kansas City or South hip-hop (excluding Atlanta) like Cash Money type shit
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have as many legends as any region? Please stack up their legends to legends from L.A. or N.Y., there is no comparison... or take just Queensbridge alone, or Atlanta, if you want to be more fair...
I was a fan of Rappin 4 Tay "I'll Be There" and "PLayer's Club" in the day, Too Short "Gettin It"... some of my all time favorite songs. But that's not saying much. I still say they are 3rd rate just like I say No Limit is 3rd rate. I'm not hating on them. No Limit, I was a big fan of the I'm Bout It project both the movie and album. I also bumped a lot of there other shit is just didn't age well.
I do put them behind East Coast, West Coast, Atlanta, Detroit. But in their defense I do put them ahead of anything Kansas City or South hip-hop (excluding Atlanta) like Cash Money type shit
norcal is the second best region behind socal
too short
e-40
digital underground
spice 1
luniz
c-bo
nickatina
jacka
mac dre
brotha lynch
del
richie rich
paris
mac mall
dubee
celly cel
dru down
3xkrazy
off top
there’s nothing 3rd rate bout these artists
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norcal is the second best region behind socal
too short
e-40
digital underground
spice 1
luniz
c-bo
nickatina
jacka
mac dre
brotha lynch
del
richie rich
paris
mac mall
dubee
celly cel
dru down
3xkrazy
off top
there’s nothing 3rd rate bout these artists
Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list
Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina
^^The above is undebatable^^
Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch
^^Only these you can debate ^^
Now how does that stack up?
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Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list
Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina
^^The above is undebatable^^
Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch
^^Only these you can debate ^^
Now how does that stack up?
as the flavorless cocksuckers in new york say - fuck outa heaaaaaaa
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as the flavorless cocksuckers in new york say - fuck outa heaaaaaaa
so you takin Spice 1 over 50? Too Short over Naz? Digital Underground over Mob Deep? ...fuck outa heaaaaa
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so you takin Spice 1 over 50? Too Short over Naz? Digital Underground over Mob Deep? ...fuck outa heaaaaa
spice 1 for sure over 50
nas is a top 5 emcee so no
digital underground and mob deep both legendary, that one id say is a matter of preference. shock g is one of the most brilliant and underrated producers in hip-hop history.
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spice 1 for sure over 50
nas is a top 5 emcee so no
digital underground and mob deep both legendary, that one id say is a matter of preference. shock g is one of the most brilliant and underrated producers in hip-hop history.
And Havoc as a producer?
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And Havoc as a producer?
is great
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Okay, I will take just one single borough of New York and stack it up against your list
Nas > Too Short
Slick Rick > E-40
Mob Deep > Digital Underground
50 Cent > Spice 1
Lost Boyz > Luniz
Noreago > C-Bo
LL Cool J > Nickatina
^^The above is undebatable^^
Pharoah Monch > Jacka
Lloyd Banks > Mac Dre
Canibus > Brotha Lynch
^^Only these you can debate ^^
Now how does that stack up?
only sure thing is Nas, Mobb Deep and LL...other artists are pretty much equal IMO and I would give E-40 the edge over Slick Rick because of his longevity and consistency