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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Gerz on June 17, 2003, 09:43:14 PM
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Name some racist rappers against white people.
Fuck White People in General - Ras Kass "nature of the threat"
Ice cube was racist against whites. Listen to Death Certificate & AmeriKKas Most Wanted.
*Question for the white people here. How do u guys feel about this??
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MC Ren on Shock Of The Hour and i think all his CDs and Kam is racist
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as a white person it don't bother me, u just gotta look how ppl were raised, if the white man brought them down then fuck us really but if not then i'd be a bit choked for them hatin' wit out a reason
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LoL @ this black nazi-dude.. ::)
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LoL @ this black nazi-dude.. ::)
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^^LMAO @ this clown above me quoting everyone. I guess he has nuthin original to say..lol
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^^LMAO @ this clown above me quoting everyone. I guess he has nuthin original to say..lol
I quoted it cause he said something I probably would have said...now please Shut the fuck up....No one cares about these rappers that are rascist towards white people....Does it make you feel better that these rappers are hating on White people...well guess what NO ONE CARES
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Saigon also had a little racist comment towards whites...but people never trip...only when a certain mag owner says it about a certain blonde person...
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How do u guys feel about this??
how do you feel about the KKK strinin black people up & skinnin them alive?
What about a white guy callin' you his slave?
man, this shit is PLAYED THE FUCK OUT. people need to get over this shit and realise colour doesn't matter
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Ras Kass is one of my favourite MC's and Ice Cube used to be (fallen off, but i'll still check for his new shit). I don't think either of them are racist, just because they said that in a song. From people who know Ras they say he treats each individual as they treat him, if you show him respect and you're white he'll respect you and if you are a dick to him and you're black he won't respect you. Also Pure Black, you seem to have selective hearing as Ras Kass also has said fuck black people too.
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Paris, Dead Prez and Da Lench Mob. I like their music although I'm white.
u just gotta look how ppl were raised, if the white man brought them down then fuck us really but if not then i'd be a bit choked for them hatin' wit out a reason
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Well it never really bothered me, being that I live where I live... But the shit Ice Cube used to say on his record ain't really no wonder to me when taken into account that blacks did go (and still do) through a lot of shit. But there's also the line from Death Certificate: "I'll be the first to say peace, white man." It's on the track Us.
Saigon also had a little racist comment towards whites...but people never trip...only when a certain mag owner says it about a certain blonde person...
People are like that. What they don't see, they don't think about. The Benzino shit was all over the hip-hop media, so it was bound to cause a fuss.
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it offends me, just like racist comments toward coloured ppl wud offend them. i have many asain and black friends and they r really nice ppl i don't see why race is such an issue to some ppl. i uinderstand being angry towards those who r racists but singling out a whole race is pathetic.
also ppl should stop bringing up wat happenned hundreds of years ago cos ppl who r alive today had nuthing to do with it. our cultural attitudes have changed since then and are continuing to change we would never get anywhere if were always hung up on the past
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This topic seems to spring up every couple of months (like Nino Brown's desperate attempts to dis me ;D )
But Caucasians have to keep some things in mind. HIP-HOP is a Black/Latino cultural artform that is a rebellion against Amerikkkan society. In other words the masses/majority of oppressed people (who happen to be Black, Latino, and Native American) are speaking out against the system which happens to be runned by rich white males, POINT BLANK. The essence of Hip-Hop was/is an outlet to speak against those dominating and oppressing which happens to be the White Ruling Class world-wide. Now only those Caucasians who read history and understand the pain and suffering from slavery to colonialism will understand and sympathize with what Rappers from Paris to Dead Prez are talking about. And for fools to consider it racist show the lack of education. Black people in all of history has never committed acts of genocide on another group of people solely for the continuation of racial power. They never burned so-called Jews in the oven, enslaved millions of people of another race for over 400 years, raped and pillaged other non-black nations and used the wealth to dominate everyone else. Black people can and are prejudice and so is everyone else, but to say Da Lench Mob and everyone else listed are "racist" because they speak out and against Caucasians is just plain illiterate. If one person on this board can tell me what things are said by rappers that are "racist against white folks", I'll denounce what I just said. Mind you, what have these rappers said that has stopped the continuation of White power and rule here in Amerikkka and around the world? Have the things that rappers said actually made you afraid of Black people?
Again this is a Black/Latino artform that is now being enjoyed and embraced by everyone regardless of color, but Caucasians can't come into the culture and try to change it, because they don't like what's being said. If you don't like what's being said, then don't listen to it. But if you understand why it's being said (and most of the time it's not for shock value), then it shouldn't really bother anyone. You don't have to agree with it, but I wonder why Caucasians on this forum or in general don't speak out against rappers using the term "nigga"? I guess since it doesn't affect you, you don't care, right?
Ponder this"
so-called racist rappers..............
1. Paris: put out by Tommy Boy, INDI Distribution, and Priority Records (all headed and owned by Caucasians)
2. Public Enemy was put out by Def Jam, but Def Jam back then was distributed by CBS (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
3. Ice Cube, Da Lench Mob, MC REN all distributed via Priority, Epic, Relativity (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
4. Dead Prez (Loud= Caucasian male Steve Rifkind)
5. Poor Righteous Teachers distributed by Profile Records (owned and operated by Caucasians)
6. Brand Nubian was produced by Dante Ross he is a Caucasian and Elektra Records is owned Caucasian owned.
I mean I can go on and on, so the whole argument of them being racist is FRAUDALENT.
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but I wonder why Caucasians on this forum or in general don't speak out against rappers using the term "nigga"? I guess since it doesn't affect you, you don't care, right?
a black man calling another black man nigga doesn't offend me if it offends them yes they shud speak on it. if some thing offends me i'll speak on it like i said b4. its not rite to single out a whole race because of some of them have surpressed black ppl in the past or even the present.
1. Paris: put out by Tommy Boy, INDI Distribution, and Priority Records (all headed and owned by Caucasians)
2. Public Enemy was put out by Def Jam, but Def Jam back then was distributed by CBS (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
3. Ice Cube, Da Lench Mob, MC REN all distributed via Priority, Epic, Relativity (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
4. Dead Prez (Loud= Caucasian male Steve Rifkind)
5. Poor Righteous Teachers distributed by Profile Records (owned and operated by Caucasians)
6. Brand Nubian was produced by Dante Ross he is a Caucasian and Elektra Records is owned Caucasian owned.
the music industry is a business, in business firms r there to make profit they will invest in what will make money what is your point?
Again this is a Black/Latino artform that is now being enjoyed and embraced by everyone regardless of color, but Caucasians can't come into the culture and try to change it, because they don't like what's being said. If you don't like what's being said, then don't listen to it.
so if eminem were to make a song saying fuck black ppl etc. u wud just not listen to it? there wud be a total uproar.
racism has shifted in recent years coloured ppl get away with alot more things than white ppl do and thats the truth. if i white person where to beat up a black man for watever reason it gets labelled as a racist attack even if that wasn't the motive
i just want to reiterate i the fact i have nothing against any race i have learned from mixing with different ppl to except ppl for who they r not the colour of their skin or where they come from or what religion they follow which not everyone can do.
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personally speaking from experience as a white man who listens to hip-hop i definetly see where they're coming from. it's sad but there's racist whites who make fun of me and call me racial slurs because i like Black culture. since it's not me who is racist, i know that Ice Cube/Paris/Kam etc are not speaking to me, just people like i mentioned above. i have read a lot about Black history and it sickens me what has happened to them in the past, i see why many Blacks are mad.
PS Excellent points Damon X
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but I wonder why Caucasians on this forum or in general don't speak out against rappers using the term "nigga"? I guess since it doesn't affect you, you don't care, right?
a black man calling another black man nigga doesn't offend me if it offends them yes they shud speak on it. if some thing offends me i'll speak on it like i said b4. its not rite to single out a whole race because of some of them have surpressed black ppl in the past or even the present.
1. Paris: put out by Tommy Boy, INDI Distribution, and Priority Records (all headed and owned by Caucasians)
2. Public Enemy was put out by Def Jam, but Def Jam back then was distributed by CBS (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
3. Ice Cube, Da Lench Mob, MC REN all distributed via Priority, Epic, Relativity (all headed and owned by Caucasians).
4. Dead Prez (Loud= Caucasian male Steve Rifkind)
5. Poor Righteous Teachers distributed by Profile Records (owned and operated by Caucasians)
6. Brand Nubian was produced by Dante Ross he is a Caucasian and Elektra Records is owned Caucasian owned.
the music industry is a business, in business firms r there to make profit they will invest in what will make money what is your point?
Again this is a Black/Latino artform that is now being enjoyed and embraced by everyone regardless of color, but Caucasians can't come into the culture and try to change it, because they don't like what's being said. If you don't like what's being said, then don't listen to it.
so if eminem were to make a song saying fuck black ppl etc. u wud just not listen to it? there wud be a total uproar.
racism has shifted in recent years coloured ppl get away with alot more things than white ppl do and thats the truth. if i white person where to beat up a black man for watever reason it gets labelled as a racist attack even if that wasn't the motive
i just want to reiterate i the fact i have nothing against any race i have learned from mixing with different ppl to except ppl for who they r not the colour of their skin or where they come from or what religion they follow which not everyone can do.
Well from being overseas and in having different culturals, I'm sure you view things different. Yea, Yea, Yea, it would be nice if folks can look past color, but that won't happen until those who control the power and wealth around the world stop using race aka White World Supremacy as a justification for doing what they are doing. We are not living in Utopia dude, we are living on a planet where death, destruction, greed, and racism, has given countries in The Middle East and Europe vast wealth and there are still millions of people who don't know or see it.
Also my point is if these so-called racist rappers were indeed racist and hate all white folks, then A) they wouldn't let a white machine manufacture and distribute their so-called hate rap around the globe. B) You tell me one White businessman or woman who would spend their dollars on promoting a rap group that hates white people? That's like Tom Silverman or Clive Davis who are jews putting mass amounts of money into a group regardless of genre that promotes the death and destruction of jews, zionism, judaism, etc. etc. So these Caucasians that own these business understand (and maybe not agree wholeheartedly) what is being said and why it's being said and to this day I know Tom Silverman personally, he'll tell you he doesn't believe Paris is a racist, in fact when we were on Tommy Boy, the word "cracka" has been used and Tom wouldn't think nothing of it, he understands why things are said and in what context they are put in. Unfortunately, most of these kids nowadays have no idea on history and can't understand what it's like to be part of an oppressed "race."
And again let some Blackman beat or kill a White man (at least here in Amerikkka) I guarantee that he will suffer worse consequences then his white counter-part. So racism hasn't really changed at all it's just got more modern with times.
But again White kids have the choice to listen and appreciate the culture of Hip-Hop, but they can't change it, because they feel attacked. Rock N Roll is a Black created artform, but who is the King? A known racist Elvis Aaron Presley. Jazz is a Black created artform but who is the noted King Of Swing? a jewish white man named Benny Goodman and the power and prestige of all what Africans have created have been stolen and given to someone else.
Lastly, first of all Hip-Hop is a Black/Latin culture that is appreciated around the world but if Eminem said "I'm gonna pull a trigger on all you niggers" then his career would end over night. That's like if Ice T and Body Count was on say the Ozzfest and said fuck heavy metal and you stankin' ass honkey/crackas whatever that would end his career in music possibly and definitely in Hollywood as an actor. In other words he would be "black"-listed and would be shut out, so it can in fact go either way, but since the streets have so much love for Ice, he wouldn't be affected as much as say Eminem. But we all know Eminem wouldn't even go that route, cause that's not in dude's character.
And believe none of these rappers including me hate White people in general, just the ones who promote and benefit from White World Supremacy and refuse to change it.
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ok but i put this to you you talk about the middle east and europe being greedy, yet u also say that white people can't share in an artform which origionated from black people it seems a bit hipocritical. to me to me it sounds just as insane as saying black people shouldn't use telephones because they didn't invent it. why can't you have a white king of rock and roll? elvis was the king to denounce him would be like saying michael jackson wasn't the king of pop just look at the following he had and still has.
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ok but i put this to you you talk about the middle east and europe being greedy, yet u also say that white people can't share in an artform which origionated from black people it seems a bit hipocritical. to me to me it sounds just as insane as saying black people shouldn't use telephones because they didn't invent it. why can't you have a white king of rock and roll? elvis was the king to denounce him would be like saying michael jackson wasn't the king of pop just look at the following he had and still has.
Well you are wrong because you obviously don't have the knowledge of music to rightly debate that. Rock N Roll is attributed to who? Elvis, Pat Boone, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc. etc. the first person to invent and use the name "Rock N Roll" was Little Richard. He incorporate blues and soul music with a "pop" appeal and called his style "Rock N Roll". He recorded songs that were big in the Black community, but White record companies took his music gave it to White artists and they blew up. Case in point Pat Boone's first major hit was a Little Richard recording.
All I'm saying is those artists need to get their just due and they haven't. And Micheal Jackson became the King Of Pop, due to his style and ambiance. Plus he never took recordings from other artists and claimed them to be his own. He was the first successful artist to start in Black music and then blow up world-wide. He is the King Of Pop, but as long as their is music someone will topple him in followings and on the charts, so you can't even put Elvis a known racist and Michael Jackson together.
And you are definitely not reading into what I'm saying, I said white people can enjoy this culture, but they can't and shouldn't be able to come in from the outside and dictate what should be said and what shouldn't. You think Eminem will tell Paris that he shouldn't speak out against Amerikkka? Please Eminem respects the culture and its architects and knows he as an MC, he knows his limitations.
And we can talk all day about inventions, but if it wasn't for the high levels of civilizations in Africa, there would be no Rome, no Mesopotamia, etc. etc. Africa is the cradle of the world's civilization, so all cultures and races need to respect and understand that, it just builds respect and tolerance in the end.
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if it bothers you stop listening. that way i don't have to hear you bitch. 8)
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I am white, and it doesn't offend me at all. It's not like they are personally directed towards me. Plus I honestly have never felt racism towards myself, I really couldn't tell ya what it feels like.
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you missed my point what i was saying is that white people can be ontop of a black origionated artform just as much as black people which should be applied the world over to everything.
and yes i don't know much about elvis presly its b4 my time i'm affraid and not something i really have interest in.
and when did i ever say white people should dictate it? all i was saying things some of the rappers say on and off the microphone have offended me, and maybe they should think about who buys most of their music. i totally believe in freedom of speech but there is a line which certain ppl cross, people of all races do it and they should think about what they are saying especially if they r also complaining about inequalities by the hand white man.
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you missed my point what i was saying is that white people can be ontop of a black origionated artform just as much as black people which should be applied the world over to everything.
Yea that's true, but when it comes to music, back then, they were on top with the help of racism that were rampant. And they were able to be "The King" and the "King Of Swing".
and yes i don't know much about elvis presly its b4 my time i'm affraid and not something i really have interest in.
Well Elvis is/was before my time, but since I make a living in this business it's my benefit that I know as much as I can about the business and music in general at large. And besides you brought him up, so you had to have some interest in him, even if it was minute.
and when did i ever say white people should dictate it? all i was saying things some of the rappers say on and off the microphone have offended me, and maybe they should think about who buys most of their music. i totally believe in freedom of speech but there is a line which certain ppl cross, people of all races do it and they should think about what they are saying especially if they r also complaining about inequalities by the hand white man.
Okay White kids always throw up the fact that they buy most of the music, but that's false. No one in the music business can say that white kids buy the most music. Because when something goes past platinum then you have an argument, but Brand Nubian, EPMD all of them went gold, so are you saying groups like them, white people made up the majority of their 500,000 sells? You also can't say that it's based on demographics, because I have bought music on Crenshaw and in Hollywood. I've bought music on the west-side of Detroit and up in Hamtramck, so you can't say it's based on where stores our, because stores doesn't keep a track of color or nationality of records bought.
So White people do buy alot of music, but to say they buy the majority of rap records has never been proven. You can't prove a statement like that.
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And besides you brought him up, so you had to have some interest in him, even if it was minute.
cheack back on the thread i only mentioned elvis after you did
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And besides you brought him up, so you had to have some interest in him, even if it was minute.
cheack back on the thread i only mentioned elvis after you did
Ok I see that, but you can't deny the facts made before and thereafter. At the end of day, it don't matter who listens to Hip-Hop, but as a listener (who's not part of the make-up of the originators) you have a right to listen to what you deem as good or bad, but you can't complain without good justification why they are "racist" which is a word that gets thrown around too much in here around the world. In fact no one on here has justified why the rappers mentioned are racist :o
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When rappers talk about white people their not talking about whites who respect blacks their talking to racisist whites. Cube, Kam, and many others know that they have plenty white fans, so why would they hate white people. Im black and I dont have a problem with whites But I know some white people who are assholes just like I know some blacks who are bitch ass niggaz.
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When rappers talk about white people their not talking about whites who respect blacks their talking to racisist whites. Cube, Kam, and many others know that they have plenty white fans, so why would they hate white people. Im black and I dont have a problem with whites But I know some white people who are assholes just like I know some blacks who are bitch ass niggaz.
i agree definitely