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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: eNgIeS on October 12, 2003, 10:27:34 AM
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Lately (like the past 2 weeks) i have been listening to heaps of Wu-Tang from over the years, & seeing as no one seems to mention em here (unless its Meth, ODB or RZA) i just thought it would be good to give opinions & thoughts on the Wu-Tang, the affiliates of Wu & thoughts on albums, favorite songs etc etc
Wu-Tang Clan (in order of preference
Method Man/Johnny Blaze/Tical: One of the best ever, he has it all flow, lyrics, voice, charisma & he has a style & great methaphors that Jay-Z been biting for years. Though unfortunately both solo efforts so far while good, didnt do justice to the talent the man has
Ghostface Killah/Iron Man/Tony Starks: One of my favorites & one of the best. Uses alot of his own creative slang but when you really listen & digest it you can understand what he sayin. Both Iron Man & Supreme Clientele are classic cd's, true near-5 mic albums, & his last album, Bulletproof Wallets was decent just a bit more soulfoul & softer than what suits Ghost
Cappadonna/Cappachino (Yes, he was the 10th member but was dumped before the Iron Flag which is why he aint on that CD): IMO one of the most underrated rappers. I've heard many complaints about Cappa, but i love his flow, & his slang style is very similar to Ghostface Killah too, so i dont know why people complain about his lyrics yet they often say Ghostface is great. "Black Boy" is one of my favorite tracks, & while Ying & the Yang was barely average, The Pillage is a good album
GZA/Genius: One of the great lyricsts too. Heck i think if you just listened to "Labels" you can tell that, how he took label names & made a song out of em. Liquid Swords is a near classic, Beneath The Surface & his newest cd is dope too, his debut album is pretty good for its time but kinda corny (just listen to "Come Do Me" & you'll see what i mean)
Inspectah Deck/Rebel I.N.S: Like GZA, but i havent heard his first solo album, but the movement was pretty good, but totally sounds unlike a Wu cd
Mastah Killah: Like GZA & Deck, but far out, when the hell is he gonna come out with an album
Ol' Dirty Bastard/Dirt McGritt: Sure, 1997 onwards he straight up sucked (hopefully detox has helped him overcome problems that held him down), but before that, though his voice flow & style is definately unique, but i loved it & i love his debut album too. I also loved "Got Cha Money" but thats about it.
Raekwon/The Chef: A hypocrite & a hater, but still pretty good. Havent heard his 2nd solo but his debut is a near classic
RZA/Bobby Digital: I just have never digged his naselly voice, but other than that he is pretty good, but a better producer than he is at rappin
U-God/Golden Arms: His decent i havent heard his solo yet but the few songs i heard i digged
Affiliates:
Street Life: I luv his style pity all he gets to do is appear on Wu & Meth shit
True Master: Dope producer & while RZA's production has fallen off over the years, he has produced the dope shit for Wu
11th or 7th disciple (forgotten which name it was): like above
Best Wu-CD's
Enter The Wu-Tang - 36 Chambers
Iron Man
Only Built For Cuban Linx
Liquid Swords
Supreme Clientele
Return To The 36 Chambers - The Dirty Verson
Wu-Tang Forever
Tical
The Iron Flag
Tical 2: Judgement Day
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Word, the Wu is dope and always will be a classic group...Big Ups 2 the Wu-Tang Clan!
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they fell off badly bu tryin to appeal to the mainstream. they need to go back to what made em big in the first place
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they fell off badly bu tryin to appeal to the mainstream. they need to go back to what made em big in the first place
I dont think they tried to appeal to the main stream, but they do have a new style, like RZA's production is different now.I want it to go back old days for Wu, just like I wish Snoop was doing Doggystyle & DPG was doin Dogg Food
But u cant u gotta move on with the times know whta i mean
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they fell off badly bu tryin to appeal to the mainstream. they need to go back to what made em big in the first place
I dont think they tried to appeal to the main stream, but they do have a new style, like RZA's production is different now.I want it to go back old days for Wu, just like I wish Snoop was doing Doggystyle & DPG was doin Dogg Food
But u cant u gotta move on with the times know whta i mean
i understand but why should i move on an buy there stuff when the music sucks now
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wu hasnt fallen off IMO, i have liked every album they released ( even though people say the W and Iron Flag suck)they come heated on every release
i just got Cappadonna's Pillage album (wasnt into him much) this past week and damn its bangin from start to finish, the RZA's new album is good too
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i dont think wu fell off either, they just lost touch with the people, that's all. Wu will be back
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36 Chambers is one of the best albums EVER. There others aren't as great though, but Iron Flag was underrated, lots of dope cuts.
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Sup.. true true wu doesnt get alot of mention on this board...but i dont expect them to really...
...i first heard wu when my friend came back from new york with an underground ep he picked up (this was before protect your neck ep was released)..
..here a quick list of wu albums i own (some missing cos i couldnt be arsed to finish it ;)
Wu Tang Wu World
Wu Tang 36 Chambers
Wu Tang The W
Wu Tang - Wu Tang Forever
Wu Tang Iron Flag
Wu Tang Wu Blends, best of Wu Tang
Wu Tang Killa B Sides
Wu Tang Wu Tang Collective
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 1
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 2
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 3
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 4
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 5
Wu Tang Wu Banga Vol 6
Wu Tang Wu Tang Family
Wu Tang The Rza Hits
Wu Tang Wu Blends
Wu Tang Wu Chronicles 1
Wu Tang Best of Wu Tang (3cd)
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 1
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 2
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 3
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 4
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 5
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 6
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 7
Wu Tang Hidden Chambers Vol 8
Wu Tang Chamber Music (instrumentals)
Wu Killa Beez The Swarm
Wu Fam Deadly Venoms Pretty Thugs
Poppa Wu Presents United Kingdom
Royal Fam Yesterday today iz tomorrow
Pop Da Brown Hornet Underground
Black Rose Kartel Rose kartel Order
Autonoyz Project Autonoyz Project
Buddah Monk The Prophecy
Cilvaringz The Mental Chambers
Darkim Be Allah - Live At The Lab 1 Preliminaries
Darkim Be Allah - Live At The Lab 1 Take 1
GP Wu Dont Go Against the Grain
Hot Butter New Chamber
Sunz of Man First Testament
Sunz of Man Last Shall Be First
Sunz of Man Angels Of Darkness
Sunz of Man Rare & Unreleased
Killarmy Dirty Weaponry
Killarmy Silent Weapons
Killah Baamz Untitled
King Just Mystics Of the Gods
Lin Brothers Ching Dynasty
Moongod Allah Ten Tigers of Kwantung
Makeba Mooncycle - Makeba Mooncycle
Remedy Genuine Article
Shabazz The Disciple
Timbo King & Spark 950 United We Stand
VA Shaolin Soul EP 1
VA Shaolin Soul EP 2
VA Shaolin Soul EP 3
Rza Big Cap Wu Tang Mix
Rza As Bobby Digital
Raekwon Immobilarity
Raekwon Only Built for Cuban Linx
Royce The 5 9 - The Bad Half
Royce the 5 9 Build & Destroy
Redman & Method man - Blackout
Prince Paul Return of the Dew Dew men
Prince Paul Prince Among Thieves
ODB Return to the 36 Chambers
ODB Nigga Please
Method Man Tical
Method Man Tical (remastered)
Method Man Tical 2000 Judgement Day
Killah Priest View From Masada
Killah Priest Heavy Mental
Killah Priest Black August
Gravediggaz 6 Feet Deep
Gravediggaz - Niggamortis
Gravediggaz - Pick, Sickle & Shovel
Gravediggaz - Nightmare in a Mirror
Ghostface Killah Supreme Clientel
Ghostface Killah - Ironman
Gza Legend of the Liquid Sword
Gza Words from a Genius
Gza Liquid Swords
Gza Beneath the Surface
Cappadonna The Pillage
Cappadonna Yin & Yang
Cappadonna The Struggle
9th_Prince_of_Killarmy-Honeycomb_Bw_Grandaddy_Flow
4th Disciple - Steel Valley Projects Vol. 1
Wu-Tang_Clan-Live_In_Amsterdam-1997
afu-ra - body of the life force
Cilvaringz-All_Star_Collection_Box
G.P._Wu-Black_On_Black_Crime-Promo
God Sunz (f. Starang Wondah)
Ins - The Rebellion
Wu Tang - 5 Styles of Shaolin
Master Killa - No said Date
As you can see i got a soft spot for the wu...always have lol
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Nice report syxx_aka_engies! The Wu-Tang Clan is one of my favourite groups for a long time now.
I think GZA is their best member - he always dropped dope albums (if we ignore his Cold Chillin' debut), has a tight flow and good lyrical skills. Raekwon is my second favourite, because of his classic "Only Built For Cuban Linx..." and his "different" but also good release "Immobilarity". I think Method Man would be next - his "Tical" is straight classic and his voice is like daaamn. Ol' Dirty was tight back in the days - I love his crazy style like on "Protect Ya Neck II The Zoo", but I don't like his newer songs on Roc-A-Fella. Ghostface is a very strange character - sometimes he's droppin' hot shit, sometimes I don't know why he's droppin' such bullshit. Inspectah Deck and U-God are both dope (I love U-God's hook of "Careful"), but I don't like their solo-albums ("Uncontrolled Substance", "The Movement", "Golden Arm's Redemption"). I don't feel Cappadonna very much, although his "The Pillage" was nice. RZA doesn't have such rappin' skills like most of the other members, but I'm respectin' him for his work with the Gravediggaz and the Wu-Tang Clan and for his tight productions.
...Mastah Killah: Like GZA & Deck, but far out, when the hell is he gonna come out with an album...
He's called Masta Killa (without any "h") ;) His solo-debut "No Said Date" was pushed back often, I hope he'll finally drop it soon. Productions will come from RZA, Allah Mathematics, 4th Disciple, True Master and DJ Premier!
BTW: Nice collection, OpTiCaL. But what's Royce searchin' for in this list? And you'll definitely have to check GP WU's "Don't Go Against The Grain". One of my favourite Wu-Fam releases.
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Cappadonna The Struggle
Whats that i never heard of it is it a bootleg or something new that just came out?
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I agree, Wu-Tang was once incredible. 36 chambers is no doubt a classic album. Tical is a sick album and so is ODB's first album for the most part. I bought Gza's Liquid Swords a long time ago but never really bumped it cause i was never a fan and it was a very solid album. Wu-Tang Forever was pretty good, but The W was horrible. I really like Iron Flag though, that was a dope return for the Wu. I would like to see one solid Wu album from the whole clan...a real classic album. The Wu were a huge part of what rap is today, gotta give them props. peace
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wu hasnt fallen off IMO, i have liked every album they released ( even though people say the W and Iron Flag suck)they come heated on every release
Wu-Tang_Clan-Live_In_Amsterdam-1997
hey are you interested in selling this? ???
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The Struggle you should be able to get on the net or in shops
..as for the live in amsterdam...no sorry bro but i may be able to hook you up...if ya got a ftp i can rip n send
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The Struggle you should be able to get on the net or in shops
..as for the live in amsterdam...no sorry bro but i may be able to hook you up...if ya got a ftp i can rip n send
yeah but is it like a best of or a new album, just i never heard of it
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Royce The 5 9 - The Bad Half
Royce the 5 9 – Build & Destroy
you probably know this, but Royce isn't WuTang
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36 chambers whas a straight up raw album, no body cant fuck with this album
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...yeah but is it like a best of or a new album, just i never heard of it
It's his new album ;) Was released last month I think. No bootleg or somethin', an official release.
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...yeah but is it like a best of or a new album, just i never heard of it
It's his new album ;) Was released last month I think. No bootleg or somethin', an official release.
Damn is it any good?
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...Damn is it any good?
I wasn't able to listen to it yet, to many other good releases :P But I heard a few pre-released songs months ago - don't really feel it :( That's why there will past much time till I finally listen to it.
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^^ Yeah its a good album...couple tracks could do without but some real nice tracks on there too..
..oh an i kno about royce...lol cut n paste error
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GZA/Genius: One of the great lyricsts too. Heck i think if you just listened to "Labels" you can tell that, how he took label names & made a song out of em.
if you liked that, check out Andre Nickatina (he is a bay area rapper also known as Dre Dog) song named Are These Your Shoes he takes "shoe names" and makes a song with them, something like Scarface Movie story
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GZA/Genius: One of the great lyricsts too. Heck i think if you just listened to "Labels" you can tell that, how he took label names & made a song out of em.
if you liked that, check out Andre Nickatina (he is a bay area rapper also known as Dre Dog) song named Are These Your Shoes he takes "shoe names" and makes a song with them, something like Scarface Movie story
thanks
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aiight, il appreciate em a bit too!:
*appreciating*
The Wu-Tang Clan=One of the illest crews in the history of hip-hop! 8)
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Btw
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on #truehiphop
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why is raekwon so low on your list? what makes him a hypocrite and a hater. hes the og motherfucker to put that gambino type shit to the rap game.
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why is raekwon so low on your list? what makes him a hypocrite and a hater. hes the og motherfucker to put that gambino type shit to the rap game.
HAha, listen to this cat
"I hate commercial ass niggas with gold teeth" then he in the Cream video clip with gold teeth"
Its my opinion, i think his a good rapper, but out of the wu is low on my list
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I dont agree with the comment about him being one of the og who put mafia / gambino into hiphop but still he aint that low on my list...
...id say my fav albums of wu he be like 4 or 5 outta however many i got in total
pZ
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The wu definitly deserves appreciation. 36 Chambers is defintily thier best work. But I've liked most everything that has come out of thier camp. Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin To Fuck With is one of my alltime fave songs too!