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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Ghost Drebin on March 28, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
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So I'm not the biggest Drake fan in the world, but I'm starting to think he get's way more hate than he should. He has put out a solid body of work, and I think it's time for folks to appreciate the dude a bit. If you have a particular reason why you don't like his shit, that's cool but it seems to me he's just a easy guy to hate on, when I think it's undeserved. So help me out. Why do you hate, or like Drake? Because even if you don't like or pay attention to him he is one of the 5 biggest names in rap the past few years.
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I can enjoy songs by him. The only time by bashing of any of those artists comes out is when you compare them to actually great rappers. Drake's definitely entertaining though; I bumped his last two albums consistently when they dropped. Gets old eventually though.
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the ONLY thing praise-worthy about this emosexual is that he supports battle rap to the fullest. i.e. paying for battles to happen.
but as a music artist? dude is horrible......in my opinion.
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Must admit i've heard very little of dude. His verse on Kendricks album nothing special though and i think first time i heard him he had shit loads of big features on the track, can't remember how he held up.
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I can enjoy songs by him. The only time by bashing of any of those artists comes out is when you compare them to actually great rappers. Drake's definitely entertaining though; I bumped his last two albums consistently when they dropped. Gets old eventually though.
yes exactly.
drake gets too much hate, dude has skills and is far from horrible. that being said he is a bit annoying but as cham said he's entertaining. a lot of peeps hate for the wrong reasons.
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not surprised at all that the homie Cham likes Drake ;D
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There's not much Hip Hop I really can't stand. Some Southern shit I can't listen to. But if it's bangin', I fuck with it.
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He has too many songs oriented towards females for me to take him seriously. I also dislike his singing.
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He has too many songs oriented towards females for me to take him seriously. I also dislike his singing.
good points
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I think his singing is mediocre at best and annoying in general, and since that's such a big part of his act it's hard for me to enjoy his music. His voice in general just annoys me too. I will say that I have heard a few clever punchlines from him, but what I've heard is pretty cheesy overall. I also just get sick of the hype around a dude that I just see as mediocre. People want to talk about him like he's this amazing rapper, and that's obviously not his fault, but I'd be lying if I said that didn't make me find him even more annoying.
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no he is worse than that...
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http://www.youtube.com/v/yL-mT2Rm28k
See I've got no problem with this kind of Drake.
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I think his singing is mediocre at best and annoying in general, and since that's such a big part of his act it's hard for me to enjoy his music. His voice in general just annoys me too.
thats it for me. He just irritates, I can live with him on the odd hook and the odd feature. But I would actually go insane if I had to listen to a whole albums worth.
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he's not bad in small doses...I rather listen to him than Wayne or Nicki but that's not saying much
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his voice can be pretty annoying and robot sounding, but that new song "5am in Toronto" was pretty tight
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Yep, new track is fire, reminds me of the ol Drake before he got famous
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
this.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
you must hear a lot of his music in your house then
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
Exactly.. you either have to be a bitch or a faggot to like his shit. Because that's his target audience. I know it's the way to make money these days, because women are spending more money on music. But I could never picture myself sitting alone in my room listening to gay shit like that.
Chuck D used to say that when he was sequencing the Public Enemy albums back in the day he would play it for his girl, and if his girl liked the song he would cut it from the album. Back in the day, there were only like 2 rappers really rappin' for the ladies. You had LL and you had Heavy D.
Women used to have to follow men. Nowadays, you go to clubs and dudes are following around girls and girls are dictating what is hot and what songs get played.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
Exactly.. you either have to be a bitch or a faggot to like his shit. Because that's his target audience. I know it's the way to make money these days, because women are spending more money on music. But I could never picture myself sitting alone in my room listening to gay shit like that.
Chuck D used to say that when he was sequencing the Public Enemy albums back in the day he would play it for his girl, and if his girl liked the song he would cut it from the album. Back in the day, there were only like 2 rappers really rappin' for the ladies. You had LL and you had Heavy D.
Women used to have to follow men. Nowadays, you go to clubs and dudes are following around girls and girls are dictating what is hot and what songs get played.
yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
you must hear a lot of his music in your house then
is it just me, or did a bitch just chime in?
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
real spit
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
wit lines like 'i love the way u activate ya hips so put ya ass out' at the end of the day those songs pac made were for the chicks.
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
wit lines like 'i love the way u activate ya hips so put ya ass out' at the end of the day those songs pac made were for the chicks.
yea, but u could rap that to a bitch while u fuckin her...if u rapped drake lines to a bitch, it'd just make u a fruit
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
wit lines like 'i love the way u activate ya hips so put ya ass out' at the end of the day those songs pac made were for the chicks.
yea, but u could rap that to a bitch while u fuckin her...if u rapped drake lines to a bitch, it'd just make u a fruit
i agree
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
you must hear a lot of his music in your house then
LOL. Son gets murked on this forum.
Btw, it's fucking retarded there's a pro-Drake thread with niggas saying "Yeah, he's dope" but Jay-Z gets universal hate on here. Straight losing credibility.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
rap and hip hop are two different things.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
rap and hip hop are two different things.
what is the difference?
the difference between say jay z and vanilla ice.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
you must hear a lot of his music in your house then
LOL. Son gets murked on this forum.
Btw, it's fucking retarded there's a pro-Drake thread with niggas saying "Yeah, he's dope" but Jay-Z gets universal hate on here. Straight losing credibility.
lol no joke. I would agree that Jay is overrated but he's still a good rapper.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
rap and hip hop are two different things.
what is the difference?
the difference between say jay z and vanilla ice.
that does not explain the difference between hip hop and rap to me.
hip hop has 5 elements rap is just rap. you don't actually have to have skills to rap or make sense you got muthafuckas who don't know what 16 bars is yet they rappin'. an emcee rhymes too but they put more emphasis on dope lyrics it's like comparin' nicki minaj to mc lyte.
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My issue with Drake is that everyone is trying to pass him off as the next greatest rapper ever. I ain't buying it. If people just thought of Drake as a solid rapper who can sell a bunch of downloads, then I'd actually say dude is alright. I know some guy at work has tried to get me to like some of his stuff and I just wasn't feeling it. Not to say he doesn't have his market, he obviously does. But I guess I ain't it.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
rap and hip hop are two different things.
what is the difference?
the difference between say jay z and vanilla ice.
that does not explain the difference between hip hop and rap to me.
hip hop has 5 elements rap is just rap. you don't actually have to have skills to rap or make sense you got muthafuckas who don't know what 16 bars is yet they rappin'. an emcee rhymes too but they put more emphasis on dope lyrics it's like comparin' nicki minaj to mc lyte.
but wouldn't a rapper qualify as a hip hop'er since rapping is one of the elements?
vanilla ice used to be a breaker and i believe he would consider himself a hip hop artist.
who decides who is an emcee (mc) or not or a hip hop artist or not for that matter?
it is almost like being called a rapper is derogatory and that a rapper is inferior to hip hop artist.
i have yet to make any sense of this nonsense.
i like how The D.O.C described RAP:
Rhythmic American Poetry
an emcee would qualify but vanilla ice is not hip hop. it's all a matter of opinion i guess and i was just bumpin' no one can do it better yesterday. the d.o.c. described rap back then as poetry it meant somethin' these days rap is anythin' but i'm sure he feels he's an emcee.
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My issue with Drake is that everyone is trying to pass him off as the next greatest rapper ever. I ain't buying it. If people just thought of Drake as a solid rapper who can sell a bunch of downloads, then I'd actually say dude is alright. I know some guy at work has tried to get me to like some of his stuff and I just wasn't feeling it. Not to say he doesn't have his market, he obviously does. But I guess I ain't it.
preach.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
you must hear a lot of his music in your house then
LOL. Son gets murked on this forum.
Btw, it's fucking retarded there's a pro-Drake thread with niggas saying "Yeah, he's dope" but Jay-Z gets universal hate on here. Straight losing credibility.
not a good look to side wit a certified welchin' bitch when ur known as the resident fag, biebs...u can visit my bros facebook page all u want and u'd still be a fruitcake.
jay-z is a good rapper...he's simply overrated. he's not truly in goat discussion, yet the general population believes he is. thats all there is to it, gayboy.
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Hands down Top 15. Stop judging him based off the last few years. Hes outlasted everyone from the 90s.
And only you call me a fag because you don't like that I shit on your reality. Tryna create your own truths to hang. #failure
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Hands down Top 15. Stop judging him based off the last few years. Hes outlasted everyone from the 90s.
And only you call me a fag because you don't like that I shit on your reality. Tryna create your own truths to hang. #failure
the only reality here is u backin a lyin bitch of a welcher due to me exposing the rest of the board to the homosexual label that ur now mostly known for. not everyone who talks shit is gay....for instance, plant is just a bitch, i have yet to detect any homosexuality from him... ur a different case, though.
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Because you got nothing on me fam. And I got...
1. Your hideous ass girlfriend.
2. Your milf mother whose been masturbated to my millions...AND THE MILLIONS.
3. Your homosexual brother.
4. Your bitch made ways on here from paying a mod to have the power to delete shit because you were embarrassed.
5. Your constant bitching to the point they made it a rule "no posting people's family member picture".
6. Your pussy ass bitching out to Grundy.
7. Your pussy ass bitching out to meet Bundy is a place other than your neighborhood.
8. Your pussy ass bitching out to Sikotic six or seven times.
9. Your pussy ass having your uncle call Sikotic.
10. Your year vacation after the worst exposure on the Internet.
11. Your bitch ass failing to produce any sort of proof you have a job and being active here 24 hours around the clock.
12. You bitching out when called out when you were "getting paid 500 to perform" at some run down club.
13. Your bragging of longevity around here like you deserve something for your nerdy ass.
14. You acting hard, but living in the nicest neighborhood in LA outside of Hollywood.
Son the lists goes on forever. Plant isn't a bitch, he G'd the shit out of you and you pussied out and couldn't get what was yours. I bet on sports all the time, try not paying up your losses, those niggas will get what's there's. You won and let him walk. Your the bitch for getting played.
Not surprising though. We're talking to the kid who used to tell Tommy he'd pay for his flight to LA and back just to get his hands on him but was too pussy to get on a plane himself to handle business.
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i like a lot of r&b but drake's combination of nasally vocals and pseudo-street-swag is kind of annoying. i guess he has a lot of smooth joints with nice vibes but it's more how he sounds himself, rapping or singing.
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His fake southern accent is cringe worthy.
And his singing is bad more than it is good.
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Because you got nothing on me fam. And I got...
1. Your hideous ass girlfriend.
2. Your milf mother whose been masturbated to my millions...AND THE MILLIONS.
3. Your homosexual brother.
4. Your bitch made ways on here from paying a mod to have the power to delete shit because you were embarrassed.
5. Your constant bitching to the point they made it a rule "no posting people's family member picture".
6. Your pussy ass bitching out to Grundy.
7. Your pussy ass bitching out to meet Bundy is a place other than your neighborhood.
8. Your pussy ass bitching out to Sikotic six or seven times.
9. Your pussy ass having your uncle call Sikotic.
10. Your year vacation after the worst exposure on the Internet.
11. Your bitch ass failing to produce any sort of proof you have a job and being active here 24 hours around the clock.
12. You bitching out when called out when you were "getting paid 500 to perform" at some run down club.
13. Your bragging of longevity around here like you deserve something for your nerdy ass.
14. You acting hard, but living in the nicest neighborhood in LA outside of Hollywood.
Son the lists goes on forever. Plant isn't a bitch, he G'd the shit out of you and you pussied out and couldn't get what was yours. I bet on sports all the time, try not paying up your losses, those niggas will get what's there's. You won and let him walk. Your the bitch for getting played.
Not surprising though. We're talking to the kid who used to tell Tommy he'd pay for his flight to LA and back just to get his hands on him but was too pussy to get on a plane himself to handle business.
lol you know ur a faggot when u still talkin about an ex of mine from years back and still dissin my fam like the queer u are. then u say i pussied out to grundy when i met up wit him and beat him in a game of basketball smfh. u'd say a dick was a pussy if u were caught suckin it. man up and hop off, gayboy.
and unless the G u talkin bout stands for gay, bitchin out on a bet is not "G'in" someone, biebs...thats the definition of being a bitch, which is exactly why u endorse it.
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Nope. Didn't get what was yours. If somebody loses money to me, I'm knocking at front doors.
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Nope. Didn't get what was yours. If somebody loses money to me, I'm knocking at front doors.
right, gayboy.. cuz ima fly out to canada to collect on an eighth smfh. ur gayness knows no boundaries, does it?
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
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Nope. Didn't get what was yours. If somebody loses money to me, I'm knocking at front doors.
No you wouldn't. And you got it backwards, the person who welches on a bet is the bitch, everyone knows that.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
Soft rapper that was good at picking beats and brags a lot. Am I missing something.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
Soft rapper that was good at picking beats and brags a lot. Am I missing something.
huh? jay-z didnt come out as a soft rapper...LOL. u got it twisted, brobro
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Some good opinions in here. It seems like he gets the most hate for his hype, singing, and songs for hos. I can understand that. I just think that some people will close their ears to him because of that and miss a fairly solid career so far. Not sure where Jay Z got brought into this, but Drake is not even in the same solar system as Jay, yet.....
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Nope. Didn't get what was yours. If somebody loses money to me, I'm knocking at front doors.
No you wouldn't. And you got it backwards, the person who welches on a bet is the bitch, everyone knows that.
No, you have it backwards. If someone owes you something, it's your responsibility to go get it. Try leaving Vegas without paying up your debts. You're probably as sheltered as NIK.
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Nope. Didn't get what was yours. If somebody loses money to me, I'm knocking at front doors.
No you wouldn't. And you got it backwards, the person who welches on a bet is the bitch, everyone knows that.
No, you have it backwards. If someone owes you something, it's your responsibility to go get it. Try leaving Vegas without paying up your debts. You're probably as sheltered as NIK.
No no no Cham.....In the spirit of the African Motherland, you bet that the white guy pays for dinner.
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That's the wager of every bet lmfao.
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Yea if the person is a bitch, then u gotta go collect. But plant is in Canada, I ain't bout to fly out there over an eighth, ya dumb fruit.
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Drake reeks of fakeness. The guy cant even rap in a voice that belongs to him. Literally, the vehicle that brings you a big part of his music, his voice, is completely fabricated to sound like an area of the US where people are looked at like theyre "hardcore" or "real" by certain rap fans. Hes worse than a suburbanite wigger trying to be 2pac. Or some dude from sweden trying to rap like hes from some LA gang set. I'd rather hear him spitting with a god damn canadian accent than one from louisiana. But, people can buy whatever they want. I personally wouldnt waste any space on my harddrive if the shit was free or bought, so whatever. Its a crazy world, and people buy dumb shit all the time.
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Drake reeks of fakeness.
yes exactly, that's why I never got into his shit, never bought into his persona, never got around the fact that his music was so unauthentic. it makes me sick to see people like him or Tyga be so popular. that aside, he's not a terrible rapper from a technical standpoint and he pays homage to the artists which influenced him (Phonte, Mac Dre), hence my first response in this thread. "the motto" really slapped, although it kinda reeked of fakeness to (despite it being a cool tribute to Mac Dre).
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Some good opinions in here. It seems like he gets the most hate for his hype, singing, and songs for hos. I can understand that. I just think that some people will close their ears to him because of that and miss a fairly solid career so far. Not sure where Jay Z got brought into this, but Drake is not even in the same solar system as Jay, yet.....
It's not the fact that he sings for me..there's plenty of rappers that harmonize that are are good, or at least have made some nice music. Even if he made some songs for girls and sounded good doing it I wouldn't dislike him as much. It's the fact that his singing voice sounds like crap to me and his rapping voice is annoying. The hype added onto that makes him virtually intolerable for me.
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
real spit
One delusional wigger is enabled by another. This is why dubcc is a terrible place.
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yea...when mufuckaz like pac made songs for the bitches, he was actually makin songs for dudes to fuck bitches to. drake just makes songs for bitches to fantasize about cock to.
even LL and Heavy D, the songs they made were at least unisexual
word.. Pac used to diss rappers like LL and Heavy D, and said they needed to ask themselves if they are keepin it real. ]
Here's one interview where he mentions it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qn_mjc5Ifs
Yeah... Like take a track like "How Do You Want It". Some people would say that's a song for women, but it's not. That track was hard as fuck actually if you listen to the lyrics. He's saying shit like, "Only a few of us will live to tell". I thought his music that people say was "for women" was actually to inspire dudes to fuck more bitches, love better and so on.
If you take a video like "How Do You Want It". Even though Pac was surrounding by porn stars in the video, 2pac was still the star of the video. These bitchass rappers today put the girls out front and center and sell the women to sell their music. The video hoes are the stars of today's videos.
real spit
One delusional wigger is enabled by another. This is why dubcc is a terrible place.
banana boy, we all have our own opinions...u thinkin' that urs are gospel and talkin down on others for theirs is what makes u a bitch, though. ur better than this.
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You're probably sheltered
Yeah, I'm so sheltered that I went by myself to Mekkah and Medina for Hajj when I was only 20 and by myself to Senegal and Gambia in Africa to spend a month there when I was only 25.
...nice try
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You're probably sheltered
Yeah, I'm so sheltered that I went by myself to Mekkah and Medina for Hajj when I was only 20 and by myself to Senegal and Gambia in Africa to spend a month there when I was only 25.
...nice try
And you think those people are your friends. Thoughts of a sheltered child.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
Soft rapper that was good at picking beats and brags a lot. Am I missing something.
huh? jay-z didnt come out as a soft rapper...LOL. u got it twisted, brobro
Hard to tell. Depends on how you relate that Hawaiian Sophie video to his career. I wouldn't say he bit L tho. When he first came out he had the fake Das Efx/Fu Schnickens style then he started doin the mafioso rap once everyone else in NY started doin that. From there he became the poor mans Biggie n hes been on that since. Also him outlastin every 90s rapper is a dumb statement. You still got niggas from the 90s who have been more consistent than him but since they wouldnt dumb down their music n sellout the media has blackballed them to the point people dont even realize theyre still around. What Jay did was say "Fuck the culture of Hip Hop Im gonna do whatever these old white music execs want me too so I can stay rich". Alot of these other guys from that era wasnt about to forsake their art for money n fame like he did so they were slowly moved out the way n he was pushed to the forefront n shoved down our throats by every media outlet that dealt with hip hop. All the older hip hop heads realize this n its why hes not as ogled n respected amongst us n exactly why people view him as overrated.
Back to the topic tho what I just mentioned about Jay sellin out is the same reason people dont like Drake. Hes talented but hes sellin out for the money n fame just like Jay did. People see that n dont respect it.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
Soft rapper that was good at picking beats and brags a lot. Am I missing something.
huh? jay-z didnt come out as a soft rapper...LOL. u got it twisted, brobro
Hard to tell. Depends on how you relate that Hawaiian Sophie video to his career. I wouldn't say he bit L tho. When he first came out he had the fake Das Efx/Fu Schnickens style then he started doin the mafioso rap once everyone else in NY started doin that. From there he became the poor mans Biggie n hes been on that since. Also him outlastin every 90s rapper is a dumb statement. You still got niggas from the 90s who have been more consistent than him but since they wouldnt dumb down their music n sellout the media has blackballed them to the point people dont even realize theyre still around. What Jay did was say "Fuck the culture of Hip Hop Im gonna do whatever these old white music execs want me too so I can stay rich". Alot of these other guys from that era wasnt about to forsake their art for money n fame like he did so they were slowly moved out the way n he was pushed to the forefront n shoved down our throats by every media outlet that dealt with hip hop. All the older hip hop heads realize this n its why hes not as ogled n respected amongst us n exactly why people view him as overrated.
Back to the topic tho what I just mentioned about Jay sellin out is the same reason people dont like Drake. Hes talented but hes sellin out for the money n fame just like Jay did. People see that n dont respect it.
Realest spit ever spat
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
Soft rapper that was good at picking beats and brags a lot. Am I missing something.
huh? jay-z didnt come out as a soft rapper...LOL. u got it twisted, brobro
Hard to tell. Depends on how you relate that Hawaiian Sophie video to his career. I wouldn't say he bit L tho. When he first came out he had the fake Das Efx/Fu Schnickens style then he started doin the mafioso rap once everyone else in NY started doin that. From there he became the poor mans Biggie n hes been on that since. Also him outlastin every 90s rapper is a dumb statement. You still got niggas from the 90s who have been more consistent than him but since they wouldnt dumb down their music n sellout the media has blackballed them to the point people dont even realize theyre still around. What Jay did was say "Fuck the culture of Hip Hop Im gonna do whatever these old white music execs want me too so I can stay rich". Alot of these other guys from that era wasnt about to forsake their art for money n fame like he did so they were slowly moved out the way n he was pushed to the forefront n shoved down our throats by every media outlet that dealt with hip hop. All the older hip hop heads realize this n its why hes not as ogled n respected amongst us n exactly why people view him as overrated.
Back to the topic tho what I just mentioned about Jay sellin out is the same reason people dont like Drake. Hes talented but hes sellin out for the money n fame just like Jay did. People see that n dont respect it.
I need you to just explain my points... LOL... thanks.
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So basically the guy who claimed Jay was "overrated" basically just admitted he just doesn't "respect" him because he's kept it mainstream for the better part of the post "Black Album" era.
Don't let your feelings catch the best of you.
It's just silly to hate on Jay because his recent work is mainstream. It's kinda like The Seventh Seal was pretty much the epitome of mediocrity, but you won't sit there and call Rakim "overrated" because that album was 15 years too late. So why you going to sit there and ignore Jay's earlier work and be like "well the last few years he's just been rapping with Kanye about how great he is...so he ain't that nice". Philosophy is just fucked.
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
your brother loves drake :sshh:
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he's actually a good technical rapper...but he makes music for faggots, so he dont get a pass.
your brother loves drake :sshh:
is that what it says on his facebook page?
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"Started From The Bottom" is a solid record even though it got played out already, "3 AM in Toronto" (or whatever it's called) is actually fire
Drake stepped it up because of Kendrick Lamar blowing up IMO
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crazy how PAC is wearing a UNLV sweater in that interview... the same city he died in years later.... but that 5am in toronto is a banger.... drake does have some hard tracks... most of his old shit is hard... that so far gone mixtape had a couple of bangerz... november 18th... UPTOWN goes hard still... even that song successful is real shit... not a drake fan but i can give props on good music when i hear it
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I used to hate on dude but he does come proper on some guest appearances & has a few good songs of his own. The Resistance 8)
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So basically the guy who claimed Jay was "overrated" basically just admitted he just doesn't "respect" him because he's kept it mainstream for the better part of the post "Black Album" era.
Don't let your feelings catch the best of you.
It's just silly to hate on Jay because his recent work is mainstream. It's kinda like The Seventh Seal was pretty much the epitome of mediocrity, but you won't sit there and call Rakim "overrated" because that album was 15 years too late. So why you going to sit there and ignore Jay's earlier work and be like "well the last few years he's just been rapping with Kanye about how great he is...so he ain't that nice". Philosophy is just fucked.
No, hes saying that Jay has shapeshifted into whatever was popular at the time to stay relevant, instead of finding his own lane, which garners little respect from a lot of people.
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So basically the guy who claimed Jay was "overrated" basically just admitted he just doesn't "respect" him because he's kept it mainstream for the better part of the post "Black Album" era.
Don't let your feelings catch the best of you.
It's just silly to hate on Jay because his recent work is mainstream. It's kinda like The Seventh Seal was pretty much the epitome of mediocrity, but you won't sit there and call Rakim "overrated" because that album was 15 years too late. So why you going to sit there and ignore Jay's earlier work and be like "well the last few years he's just been rapping with Kanye about how great he is...so he ain't that nice". Philosophy is just fucked.
No, hes saying that Jay has shapeshifted into whatever was popular at the time to stay relevant, instead of finding his own lane, which garners little respect from a lot of people.
It's useless
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http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/drake-girls-loves-beyonce-feat-james-fauntleroy/
LMAO @ Drake- not as bad as everyone thinks :D
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
that is total bullshit . . 90% of hip hop shits on drake . you make drak sound overratted like he is . hip hop was never ment for the kind of people like drake . no america won't because most of america is still homophobic.
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He ain't bad at all. He's the best YMCMB has to offer that's for sure.
This. He shits on 90% of hip hop and he will be around for a long time. He has many sides to him, very complex and diverse, but because one of those sides is sensitive/making songs for females, that's all certain people choose to look at. It's also funny how much homophobia has an impact on certain people's lives and their tastes. America is gonna become an increasingly difficult place for you guys to live in with that mentality.
rap and hip hop are two different things.
what is the difference?
the difference between say jay z and vanilla ice.
that does not explain the difference between hip hop and rap to me.
hip hop has 5 elements rap is just rap. you don't actually have to have skills to rap or make sense you got muthafuckas who don't know what 16 bars is yet they rappin'. an emcee rhymes too but they put more emphasis on dope lyrics it's like comparin' nicki minaj to mc lyte.
you 100% right with that.
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you talk alot about hip hop but you don't know what hip hop is.
go away little troll. because i am hip hop & you have no clue what hip hop is at all ,child. living & listening to hip hop since 1982 making me a hip hop expert for life.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
no jay did not get his style from Big L first . just like biggie , jay-z stole his flow from Big daddy kane not Big L . everybody from brooklyn after a certain era stole from BIg Daady Kane & special ED .
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no it only makes you old and wrong.
and that is a FACT.
end of story, no more discussion.
no troll, instead it makes me old ,wise & always right over you .
and that is 100% fact unlike you fake ass opinion .
end of story, no more discussion for you troll. stop screwing threads up child.
The old school is always right over the new school.
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ok i am sorry.
i read what you quoted and you know what hip hop is.
but Drake is also a little bit hip hop.
and he raps better than
drake is not hip hop at all , smoke . drake is rap not hip hop . who does drake rapper better then ?
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i said he was a little bit hip hop not 100%
like KRS-One used to be 100% but now is only 45% or something because of that thing
what the hell ,smoke . Krs-1 is 100% hip hop & will be 100% even after his death. Krs-1 is teacher of hip hop & that means Krs-1 is & always will be 1000% hip hop. drake is not hip hop at all. Drake is rap meaning 0% hip hop .
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http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/drake-girls-loves-beyonce-feat-james-fauntleroy/
LMAO @ Drake- not as bad as everyone thinks :D
I feel you. This type of song is exactly why it took me so long to even consider feeling this dude.
That being said, his features and some of his more recent stuff, not to mention the Chris Brown beef, have made me a fan.
For me, he'll always be the type of artist that you look at and just hate some of his work. The soft stuff is just not my cup of tea.
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I know in another thread NIK wanted to know who Jay fathered. Jay's style gave birth to Drake. I don't think you can even deny it. This is Jay-Z's influence. For better or worst, Jay-Z gave birth to rappers like Drake, Fabolous back in the day, Kanye West, and a few others.
Listen, people on this board may not like them, but they have their market and their market is pretty big.
what u on, mayn?...drake is nothin like jay-z lol. jay is a biter..he first got his style from big l, then started biting nas, then made his money off reciting old biggie raps. it's really nothin new. he's not an innovative rapper or a forefather of any style. still, he has a nice resume and is a good rapper. but no way he fathered drake's style. LOL
no jay did not get his style from Big L first . just like biggie , jay-z stole his flow from Big daddy kane not Big L . everybody from brooklyn after a certain era stole from BIg Daady Kane & special ED .
he stole from a lot of peoples, but big l is one of the mains ones that comes 2 mind
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drakes cool, nelly sucks.
out.