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Title: Artest or Owens... whos worse for there sport?
Post by: AZ§o§a on January 25, 2006, 11:07:24 AM
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my vote is owens....hatem both tho..
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Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on January 25, 2006, 11:21:53 AM
Artest because he punched a couple fans in the face.
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Post by: acbaylove on January 25, 2006, 12:32:27 PM
I don't know Owens, but..

Artest because he punched a couple fans in the face.
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Post by: africas seed on January 25, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
Owens thinks hes bigger than the sport so it would be OWENS
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Post by: authentic on January 25, 2006, 02:09:03 PM
they're both gamers.. they want to win a title but they hurt their chances by their cockiness. but i think T.O threatens his sport beyond explanation. He doesnt realize; hes losing his spotlight to chad johnson, marvin harrison, steve smith and many others. In many ways hes screwing himself over
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 03:12:38 PM
Owens easily
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Post by: Westcoastin' on January 25, 2006, 03:16:09 PM
i sympathize with artest man, those guys are under alot of pressure....if i had people talkin an throwing shit at me all the  time, id snap too.....id pull a Tie Domi and try to knock the guy out from the penalty box.

im pickin Owens, a few months ago i was a big fan of his but when he fucked around and  Philly ended up missisng the playoffs.....last fucking straw.
Title: Re: Artest or Owens... whos worse for there sport?
Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on January 25, 2006, 03:30:56 PM
i sympathize with artest man, those guys are under alot of pressure....if i had people talkin an throwing shit at me all the time, id snap too.....id pull a Tie Domi and try to knock the guy out from the penalty box.

im pickin Owens, a few months ago i was a big fan of his but when he fucked around and Philly ended up missisng the playoffs.....last fucking straw.

if i paid u $6.5 million a year to play basketball and stay on the court...shudn't that be enuf to pay off ur ego?
Title: Re: Artest or Owens... whos worse for there sport?
Post by: authentic on January 25, 2006, 04:47:32 PM
i sympathize with artest man, those guys are under alot of pressure....if i had people talkin an throwing shit at me all the time, id snap too.....id pull a Tie Domi and try to knock the guy out from the penalty box.

im pickin Owens, a few months ago i was a big fan of his but when he fucked around and Philly ended up missisng the playoffs.....last fucking straw.

if i paid u $6.5 million a year to play basketball and stay on the court...shudn't that be enuf to pay off ur ego?

since were gonna talk about money..to this day i will never understand why players will holdout because they're not paying u "enough" money..65 million and 70 million are the same thing! ppl need to stop being greedy, money is money when u have that much money, it shouldnt matter. Pro atheletes are over-payed in general, u put me on the court and pay me 100,000 dollars i'd stay on the court
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Post by: AZ§o§a on January 25, 2006, 06:34:30 PM
good example of that Paul Konerko.... stayin w. the white sox... for more reasons other than money...
he was offered 10-15 million more a year from other ball clubs but he realized that he would have a better life
jus stayin w. the club that put him on his feet.. shit.. no matter what ur ganna be rich for life.... whats a few more
mill. realllly ganna do for u..
we need more guys like this in sports period!
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 06:40:38 PM
WHat if you know for a fact that you're underpaid based on the salaries of other players and their performances? 
Title: Re: Artest or Owens... whos worse for there sport?
Post by: AZ§o§a on January 25, 2006, 06:52:53 PM
WHat if you know for a fact that you're underpaid based on the salaries of other players and their performances? 

point taken.... but is he really being "under" paid??? or are other guys just being over paid??
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 07:17:50 PM
but are players really "over" paid...look at how much money the owners be making.  Also , right now Dontrelle Willis is vastly underpaid, and when he finishes his service time he's gonna want a huge paycheck for the numbers he put up in his few years in MLB
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Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on January 25, 2006, 08:29:30 PM
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anybody read this book?
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 08:52:46 PM
I've read moneyball
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Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on January 25, 2006, 08:58:48 PM
should i dive into it? i've read the first couple pages courtesy of Amazon caus the whole topic is interesting but i dont know if i should invest my time in (http://snaggingbaseballs.mlblogs.com/the_baseball_collector/images/moneyball.jpg)
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 09:00:14 PM
Yep.  Especially if you're a business/economics/baseball fan. 
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Post by: 'DsR' on January 25, 2006, 09:00:35 PM
owens... i cant STAND players like him
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Post by: Lex Boooger on January 25, 2006, 10:54:05 PM
Ron Artest Ja Rule and Usher should form a group called the Treacherous Turtles
Title: Re: Artest or Owens... whos worse for there sport?
Post by: authentic on January 25, 2006, 11:13:35 PM
but are players really "over" paid...look at how much money the owners be making.  Also , right now Dontrelle Willis is vastly underpaid, and when he finishes his service time he's gonna want a huge paycheck for the numbers he put up in his few years in MLB

dontrelle willis is in his what..3rd yr i think..he is not yet a developed veteran, i think highest payed players should be the veterans and then ur potential superstars. dont get me wrong hes a phenomenal athelete but hes got 10-12 more years to go..he doesnt need to start raising his salary, its unnecessary and selfish of players to think of support of a team over a few mil.
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Post by: Javier on January 25, 2006, 11:25:56 PM
I know that is why a baseball player needs to spend a certain number of years before they can become FA's.  They need to complete their service so they dont have to go through arbirtation with their teams. Willis has 10-12 more years to go for what?  If Willis continues the way he pitches, when he becomes a FA in 2008 he's gonna demand at the very least a 5/50 type of contract.  It will just be aburd not to.   Guys like fucking Tomko are getting paid 6 million a year, you have to look at the situation they are in.