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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: techniec on March 15, 2002, 06:20:08 PM
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im checkin out the numbers and i see that No Way Out and Country Grammer are both like 7 platinum, same with 2001
and im thinking, how much did Doggstyle sell? cuz that has to be up there in the top5 or sumthing, its the most popular album of all time
i know the last number thrown around was 5 million, its in the Death Row greatest hits album booklet, but that album came out 97, and doggystyle's numbers wasnt updated years before that
im thinking this motherfucker HAS to be diamond...
it still sells today!!!
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I think Doggystyle sold about 4-5 million... but that's just what I think, not official, peace.
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6 million copies.
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we no for sure atleast 5x platnium, when they had snoops behind tha music on vh1 they said it was up 8x
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we no for sure atleast 5x platnium, when they had snoops behind tha music on vh1 they said it was up 8x
Alright.. it's probably 8x then...
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we no for sure atleast 5x platnium, when they had snoops behind tha music on vh1 they said it was up 8x
I was just about to say that. Behind the music also said The Chronic sold 7 mill.
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15 million worldwide
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no one can really tell, but it hit the diamond status already, like chronic and some others
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I'm not sure what the exact figures are.....but does Doggystyle still hold the record for most gangsta rap albums sold within a week?
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gangsta yeah but most album sale in one week , dmx beat him and then eminem went platinum the first week and that made him the person who sold the most in one week
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Here are a couple of links that kinda explain the whole RIAA and Soundscan rating scale. But basically its like this. Soundscan records the number of ALBUMS SHIPPED to retailers. RIAA records the actual number of units sold. So basically, RIAA ratings are the most accurate (spelling???)
Anyway, RIAA.com has a database that represents units sold in America. These (If I am correct..) do not represent world wide sales. It lists Doggystyle as 4 Mil sold in the US (rounded, of course)
Article On Soundscan Vs. RIAA
http://libarts.udmercy.edu/udmrewired/1.0/features/feature_mason.htm
Check The Gold And Plat Database And Search Snoop:
www.riaa.com
Pz.
Axle "21310" Fohley
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Here are a couple of links that kinda explain the whole RIAA and Soundscan rating scale. But basically its like this. Soundscan records the number of ALBUMS SHIPPED to retailers. RIAA records the actual number of units sold. So basically, RIAA ratings are the most accurate (spelling???)
Anyway, RIAA.com has a database that represents units sold in America. These (If I am correct..) do not represent world wide sales. It lists Doggystyle as 4 Mil sold in the US (rounded, of course)
Article On Soundscan Vs. RIAA
http://libarts.udmercy.edu/udmrewired/1.0/features/feature_mason.htm
Check The Gold And Plat Database And Search Snoop:
www.riaa.com
Pz.
Axle "21310" Fohley
That shits outdated homie. Look at how long ago it was certified. It says it was certified 4 Million in 05/31/94. Damn that was 8 years ago so fa sho Snoop sold at least 8 million.
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hey slick, i dont think dmx beat his numbers
Flesh of my flesh.... sold 667,000 first week
And then there was X....sold 750,000 first week
Great Depression ....sold 400,000 first week
uum, Snoop set the record for highest first week sales ever, by any artists, when Doggystyle was released in 1993, it sold 1 million in the first week, since then Britney Spears, N SYNC, Backstreet Boys, Limp Bizkit and Eminem have each cracked the 1 million units sold mark in the first week
to my knowledge no hip hop album besides Marshall Mathers LP
and Doggystyle ever cracked the 1 million first week mark
and jay ay babee, where did u get that 15 million number from??
peace
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That shits outdated homie. Look at how long ago it was certified. It says it was certified 4 Million in 05/31/94. Damn that was 8 years ago so fa sho Snoop sold at least 8 million.
if thats true then snoop has to be atleast Diamond........
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It's an estimate - Doggystyle is at least 8 in the States, it was HUGE here so it's at least 2 here, then think of Germany, Australia, Canada etc it will have easily hit 15 worldwide
Safe
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Doggystyle held the record with over 800,000 copies sold the first week until Eminem broke it...By late 1996 It had sold over 5 million copies as it said on the Death Row Greatest Hits booklet...I'm guessing since then it has sold an extra 1 or 2 million...So it is probably at about 6 or 7 million in the US and around 10 million worldwide...
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You're underestimating it - he sold more than 3 mil outside of the US
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You're underestimating it - he sold more than 3 mil outside of the US
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That shits outdated homie. Look at how long ago it was certified. It says it was certified 4 Million in 05/31/94. Damn that was 8 years ago so fa sho Snoop sold at least 8 million.
yea, Im not saying that its correct or up to date.. but its the only online resource that Ive found with a searchable database. Most others seem to go off Soundscan.
Ax
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4 Million in 05/31/94.
lol, 94 in one year he sold 4 millions, so how much can he sold there next ones , don' tell me he sold gold , at least 1 millions by year then it faded out to gold so the way i see it , THEY SHOULD UPDATE THIS MOTHERFUCKA
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i read in a death row cd cover (In Uk) that doggystyle sold 15 Million and chronic sold 10 World Wide, but that was a few month's ago and i got a feelin (what with me bein quite fucked on Ket. Chronic and Alcohol that i might be makin it up, Fuck it, yeah i am, i jus decided to make up this post cuz i'm bored and might jus go on talkin all night....i've had fuck all sleep since i woke up yesturday mornin bout 9am, and it's now 10:45pm, ever tried drivin on Ket. Alc. & Pot, it's CRazY, i was goin about 10 mph but it felt like i was goin 100mph and also had to have one of my friends (who was also on same) direct me cuz i couldn't see very well, what with the fog and the fact that it was 3 in the mornin,) we got our Munch, Cig's and Rizla and got the fuck back to a friends house to carry on the 36 hour sesh,
I'm fucked i'm off to bed, this post has taken me about an HOUR to type, cuz i been tryin to get it perfect, so hopefully it should b perfect!!! but don't complain if it ain't!
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lol damn one hour to post that ^^
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nobody know exactly how much it sold but the thing i know is for sho is that behind the music said it was 8 million so i'm guessing that's the number but i was thinkin more along the lines of diamond. oh and for worldwide sales jay ay bee sounds about right when he says 15 million.
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normally a popular american album sells as much in usa, as in all other countries together, so im guessing 16X worldwide
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normally a popular american album sells as much in usa, as in all other countries together, so im guessing 16X worldwide
yeah i agree wit this. I think it is either 8-10 million sold in the states alone and about 14-16 million sold worldwide.
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Doggystyle is NOT Diamond. Its sold 5 million, maybe 6 million tops [as far as USA sales go]. The only two official rap albums that have gone Diamond [and no, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice dont count, im talking about LEGIT rap albums] are All Eyez On Me and Life After Death. How do I know all this? I got a friend who works for Soundscan, and he knows how much just about any album has sold. Doggystyle is at about 6 million. Thats nothing to be ashamed of, 6 million is fucking incredible, especially for a rap album. But the album is not Diamond, lol.......
Oh, and for the record, DMX did NOT beat Snoop's first week sales. Check it:
Doggystyle: 805,000 in the first week
And The There Was X: 690,000 in the first week.
Eminem, however, did break his record with like 1.7 million sold in the first week.
I love Doggystyle as much as the next man, its probably one of my top 10 fav albums, but it hasnt sold as much as yall think it has. All Eyez On Me, E.1999 Eternal, The Score, Life After Death, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits have all sold more. I dont if its for sure, but I suspect All Eyez On Me is the best selling rap album ever at this point, and if it isnt yet, it soon will be........
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I'll stick to the figures that Behind The Music said which was 8 million sold.
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Doggystyle is NOT Diamond. Its sold 5 million, maybe 6 million tops [as far as USA sales go]. The only two official rap albums that have gone Diamond [and no, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice dont count, im talking about LEGIT rap albums] are All Eyez On Me and Life After Death. How do I know all this? I got a friend who works for Soundscan, and he knows how much just about any album has sold. Doggystyle is at about 6 million. Thats nothing to be ashamed of, 6 million is fucking incredible, especially for a rap album. But the album is not Diamond, lol.......
Oh, and for the record, DMX did NOT beat Snoop's first week sales. Check it:
Doggystyle: 805,000 in the first week
And The There Was X: 690,000 in the first week.
Eminem, however, did break his record with like 1.7 million sold in the first week.
I love Doggystyle as much as the next man, its probably one of my top 10 fav albums, but it hasnt sold as much as yall think it has. All Eyez On Me, E.1999 Eternal, The Score, Life After Death, and 2Pac Greatest Hits have all sold more. I dont if its for sure, but I suspect All Eyez On Me is the best selling rap album ever at this point, and if it isnt yet, it soon will be........
umm okay how the fuck did E.1999 Eternal, and the score all of a sudden beat doggystyle? hahaha bone thugs only sold fucken 5 million man and don't start an argument just cuz that's ur favorite album man and the score has only sold like 6 million in the states but has sold lots worldwide. and yeah i will also stick to the behind the music facts cuz i think that's more reliable and say that doggystyle has sold 8 million copies in the states.peace
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Doggystyle is NOT Diamond. Its sold 5 million, maybe 6 million tops [as far as USA sales go]. The only two official rap albums that have gone Diamond [and no, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice dont count, im talking about LEGIT rap albums] are All Eyez On Me and Life After Death. How do I know all this? I got a friend who works for Soundscan, and he knows how much just about any album has sold. Doggystyle is at about 6 million. Thats nothing to be ashamed of, 6 million is fucking incredible, especially for a rap album. But the album is not Diamond, lol.......
Oh, and for the record, DMX did NOT beat Snoop's first week sales. Check it:
Doggystyle: 805,000 in the first week
And The There Was X: 690,000 in the first week.
Eminem, however, did break his record with like 1.7 million sold in the first week.
I love Doggystyle as much as the next man, its probably one of my top 10 fav albums, but it hasnt sold as much as yall think it has. All Eyez On Me, E.1999 Eternal, The Score, Life After Death, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits have all sold more. I dont if its for sure, but I suspect All Eyez On Me is the best selling rap album ever at this point, and if it isnt yet, it soon will be........
i dont think so, that lp shipped 1 mil in the first week alone
4 million by 94
it HAS to be diamond, even on cdnow, its the best selling ol rap album (at least 5 years back)
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umm okay how the fuck did E.1999 Eternal, and the score all of a sudden beat doggystyle? hahaha bone thugs only sold fucken 5 million man and don't start an argument just cuz that's ur favorite album man and the score has only sold like 6 million in the states but has sold lots worldwide. and yeah i will also stick to the behind the music facts cuz i think that's more reliable and say that doggystyle has sold 8 million copies in the states.peace
Dude, I got the SoundScan figures sitting right here in front of me, and The Score and E.1999 Eternal have both outsold Doggystyle, at least here in the states. Im sorry, but there is no way Behind the Music is more reliable than Soundscan. Soundscan SPECIALIZES in tracking record sales. And these number are pretty new, less than a year old. It has nothing to do with Eternal being my fav album or not, its just the truth. Shit, I like E.1999 Eternal more than 2Pac Greatest Hits, but all admit Greatest Hits sold more. But E.1999 Eternal has sold more than Doggystyle. Sorry if that ruined your day, but its a fact.
Doggystyle is at 6 million, and the Score and E.1999 Eternal are at 7 million each. I dont matter though, cuz All Eyez On Me has outsold ALL of them anyway.
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i dont think so, that lp shipped 1 mil in the first week alone
4 million by 94
it HAS to be diamond, even on cdnow, its the best selling ol rap album (at least 5 years back)
Trust me, its NOT Diamond. Only AEOM and LAD are Diamond, I even have the numbers straight from Soundscan sitting right here in front of me.
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how recent are those numbers updated tho?
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how recent are those numbers updated tho?
All these numbers are from April-May of 2001......in other words, pretty recent. There is no way Doggystyle has sold an extra 2-3 million copies in less than a year. ROFLMAO. All Eyez On Me still sells more than Doggystyle, and even Eyez hasnt sold no fuckin 2 million copies within the last year.
Im not taking anything away from Doggystyle, cuz I consider it one of the greatest albums ever made. Hell, I was bumpin it last night as a matter of fact. But it hasnt sold no 8 million, and it sure AS HELL isnt Diamond. Few rap albums have sold 8 million or more. Only AEOM, LAD, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits have, to my knowledge......However, Id say Doggystyle is a better album than LAD, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits [this is a great album, but they left off alot of classic songs], even if it didnt sell as much. I wouldnt rate it better than AEOM though.
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All these numbers are from April-May of 2001......in other words, pretty recent. There is no way Doggystyle has sold an extra 2-3 million copies in less than a year. ROFLMAO. All Eyez On Me still sells more than Doggystyle, and even Eyez hasnt sold no fuckin 2 million copies within the last year.
Im not taking anything away from Doggystyle, cuz I consider it one of the greatest albums ever made. Hell, I was bumpin it last night as a matter of fact. But it hasnt sold no 8 million, and it sure AS HELL isnt Diamond. Few rap albums have sold 8 million or more. Only AEOM, LAD, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits have, to my knowledge......However, Id say Doggystyle is a better album than LAD, the MMLP, and 2Pac Greatest Hits [this is a great album, but they left off alot of classic songs], even if it didnt sell as much. I wouldnt rate it better than AEOM though.
well hey man it's all good cuz i already know taht it has sold more than 8 million simple as that. i'm pretty sure behind the music didn't just fucken pull that number outta their ass and air it publically on television? i don't think they'd lie for no reason. Also i can gurantee eternal has not sold 7 million no way in hell man i don't care if u say u have the facts cuz theres no way last time i checked which wuz a few monts a go it wuz almost at 6 that's it.oh and by the way i think that doggystyle wuz much better than all eyez on me, and life after death also sold more than all eyez on me.
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i gotta go wit hellrazor, its proberly at 6x platnium, or 7x. I dont see how since 96 it sold an additional 5 million. Its not like snoop gained fans, after all if u look at tha numbers he only sells 2 million now. He has gained additional sales from some new fans, people that lost there album, those that originally brought it on cassette want it on cd, an those thase that played it so much that they need a new copy. I dont see how he could of got an additional 5 million sales, i see 2 million tops maybe some more, but no chance in hell an additional 5 million. An secondly i find it funny how every1 is fightin over sales figures when most of you half tha time talk about how sales dont mean shit
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^^^Whatever man. When I see Doggystyle listed as 8 million from Soundscan, ill believe it. But until then, im gonna say it sold 6 million, 7 million ABSOLUTE tops [and thats pushin' it].
And E.1999 Eternal, btw, was at the SIX million mark before Art Of War even came out, which was in July of 97'. Im surprised its only at 7 million, cuz that album still sells alot TODAY [about 10,000 copies a week, which is alot of an album over 6 years old].
But whatever, who cares how much the albums sold, as long as the music is good.
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i gotta go wit hellrazor, its proberly at 6x platnium, or 7x. I dont see how since 96 it sold an additional 5 million. Its not like snoop gained fans, after all if u look at tha numbers he only sells 2 million now. He has gained additional sales from some new fans, people that lost there album, those that originally brought it on cassette want it on cd, an those thase that played it so much that they need a new copy. I dont see how he could of got an additional 5 million sales, i see 2 million tops maybe some more, but no chance in hell an additional 5 million. An secondly i find it funny how every1 is fightin over sales figures when most of you half tha time talk about how sales dont mean shit
true that.
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Pop quiz: anyone care to guess which 2 rap albums have been on the charts the longest [this includes the total number of weeks on the Billboard 200 AND number of weeks on the Catalog charts as well]??
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ok 6 million in the states
how much world wide?
i think at least 4 million
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And The There Was X: 690,000 in the first week.
naww , it was more like 750 000, even the source said so. soudscan is bullshit just like riaa. i don't believe thoses shits
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ok 6 million in the states
how much world wide?
i think at least 4 million
Now that, I cant answer, cuz Soundscan only tracks USA sales as far as I know. Ill have to ask my friend about that though, I could be wrong. Im sure its a lot though, cuz Doggystyle is an album that made alot of white punk rock kids like rap. I have a feeling EVERY SINGLE rap fan in Europe has that album, lol....
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naww , it was more like 750 000, even the source said so. soudscan is bullshit just like riaa. i don't believe thoses shits
RIAA is indeed bullshit, however Soundscan ISNT. Trust me, it was about 690,000.............Besides Eminem, Snoop and Bone are the only rap artists to sell over 700,000 in the first week. Doggystyle did 805,000 in the first week, and Art Of War did about 788,000 [E.1999 Eternal, believe it or not, only sold about 430,000 in the first week, even though it sold more than AOW overall]. Some other big first week numbers:
All Eyez On Me: 557,000
Life After Death: 685,000
Makaveli: 664,000
And Then There Was X: 690,000
I remember when AOW first came and sold 780 g'z in the first week. I couldnt fucking believe it. I thought it was gonna outsell E.1999 Eternal, but the album ended staying on the charts for only about 60 weeks, while Eternal was on the charts for like 260 weeks, lol.
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Now that, I cant answer, cuz Soundscan only tracks USA sales as far as I know. Ill have to ask my friend about that though, I could be wrong. Im sure its a lot though, cuz Doggystyle is an album that made alot of white punk rock kids like rap. I have a feeling EVERY SINGLE rap fan in Europe has that album, lol....
thats very true
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Big Willie Style sold 9 million copies. I didn't know that shit...
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yo who out there think that timberland is better then dre. cause i 100% do. i think DRE is a fake ass bitch. he got to much credit for some of the shit that he made. and i got this 1 mother fucker saying that dre is WAY better then timberland....and i was like hellz na. and on the real i think the neptunes are better then dre. u all please respond and tell me what u think
DUCE
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yo who out there think that timberland is better then dre. cause i 100% do. i think DRE is a fake ass bitch. he got to much credit for some of the shit that he made. and i got this 1 mother fucker saying that dre is WAY better then timberland....and i was like hellz na. and on the real i think the neptunes are better then dre. u all please respond and tell me what u think
DUCE
Personally I think that Dr. Dre and Premier are a level above any other producers... Timbaland, The Neptunes and Swizz Beatz are a level below... that's just my opinion, peace.
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World Wide Doggy Sold over 10 Mill.
Fugee's Went DIAMOND and that is a rap album!
Chronic sold less than doggyst. which is a shame, cuz they both jus as good....
Fuck my head's spinnin!!!!
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Hellrazor has been EXPOSED he isn't reliable
Honestly some of you think that outside the US there is about 100 people who like rap!
If Doggystyle sold 6 mil in the states then it will have had over 10 worldwide!
It's DIAMOND
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Soundscan don't track sales outside of the US or even sales from the mom and pop stores in the US...That's why Soundscan says Doggystyle sold like 6 million but it could be 7 or 8 million cause real street niggaz don't shop at Sam Goody's they get that shit from the mom and pops...
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thats a good point,
mom and pops stores, swap meets , all that shit is unaccounted for
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snoop himself said doggystyle sold 8 million copies in the states
riaa is bullshit and thinks that metallicas black album is still at 8 million (lol wtf)
soundscan is only connected to sam goody and all branches of this chain, virgin, best buy, blockbuster music/warehouse, and a couple of others i don't remember
they DON"T include wal mart (who was one of the biggest retailers in music until they barred all explicit cd's in 96/97)
the DON"T include target who is a big timer in music sales
they DON"T include kmart..^
they DON"T include mom and pops joints
they DON"T include whole sale retailers niether
which could/would and can add 2 million an extra 2 mil to his total sales bracket
doggystyle is - 8x
the chronic is-6x
e. 1999 eternal is -6x
2001- 7x
mmlp-9-8x
AEOM-10.5x
LAD-10.5x
the score-6x (in the states)
vanilla ice album-7.5x
please hammer dont...- almost 11x
country grammar-7x
a couple of dmx albums are-5x
pac's greatest hits-9x
this IS official as ALL of these artists and greater sources have APPROVED these numbers
these numbers are the most accurate
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exactly and since he sold 8 mil in the states, he has to have sold at least an additional 2-3 mil world wide
which gives him more than 10 mil world wide, probably around 12 mil
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Hellrazor has been EXPOSED he isn't reliable
Honestly some of you think that outside the US there is about 100 people who like rap!
If Doggystyle sold 6 mil in the states then it will have had over 10 worldwide!
It's DIAMOND
Again, it is NOT Diamond. You have to sell 10 million in the states alone to be considered Diamond. Hell, the Fugees probably sold 15 million copies worldwide of the Score, but only 7 million in the states. Therefore, the album is NOT Diamond.
And Ive been exposed? Naw, I aint been exposed, I just have people who like to ride my dick just cuz I dont take their shit.....
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snoop himself said doggystyle sold 8 million copies in the states
riaa is bullshit and thinks that metallicas black album is still at 8 million (lol wtf)
soundscan is only connected to sam goody and all branches of this chain, virgin, best buy, blockbuster music/warehouse, and a couple of others i don't remember
they DON"T include wal mart (who was one of the biggest retailers in music until they barred all explicit cd's in 96/97)
the DON"T include target who is a big timer in music sales
they DON"T include kmart..^
they DON"T include mom and pops joints
they DON"T include whole sale retailers niether
which could/would and can add 2 million an extra 2 mil to his total sales bracket
doggystyle is - 8x
the chronic is-6x
e. 1999 eternal is -6x
2001- 7x
mmlp-9-8x
AEOM-10.5x
LAD-10.5x
the score-6x (in the states)
vanilla ice album-7.5x
please hammer dont...- almost 11x
country grammar-7x
a couple of dmx albums are-5x
pac's greatest hits-9x
this IS official as ALL of these artists and greater sources have APPROVED these numbers
these numbers are the most accurate
word. these numbers look really close to what is real i think. hey dogg the only things you messed up on were country grammar sold 8 million and only one of dmx's albums went 5x and that was and then there was X. but the rest look good.
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i found an interesting article that tells the actual truth about how much this album should've sold along wit the chronic. peep this shit homies:
Two albums that have missed are Dr. Dre's "Chronic" and Snoop Doggy Dogg's debut "Doggystyle". These are two albums that experienced huge success in the "mom and pop" establishments. It seems like every rap fan owns these albums, but they are certified at 3 million(Chronic) and 5 million(Doggystyle), low for two blockbuster albums in the era they were released. It is rumored that Dr. Dre has sold over 8 million copies of Chronic. Snoop Dogg was the highest selling rap album for the first week( before Eminem), but only the Soundscan stores were counted in the 800,000 copies counted. This was without the stores without Soundscan. Being released in 1993, there were many stores that have Soundscan now that did not back then.
There is one thing that cannot be left out. Where you have such an important establishment, there is always room for shady operations. There can be cases where Soundscan store can be bribed into scanning product of albums that were not really sold. Companies can benefit from such false chart position. Let's not be naive and don't think that major record companies own or have stock in stores with different names. Why not ship 2 million copies of your own product to your own stores to boost the popularity and status of your artist. They can also cover up for failed albums by keeping up their stats as far as sales. On quite a few occasions, the RIAA certifications are far away from the actual sales of some products.
and if it says that chronic is rumoured to have 8 million sold i'm pretty sure that doggystyle must have at least 8-10 million sold alone in the states cuz doggystyle wuz more popular than the chronic was.
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That article probably proves that Doggystyle sold well over 1 million copies it's first week, probably close to 1.5 million since Soundscan wasn't in all the stores...If Soundscan says Doggystyle sold 6 million it's probably closer to 8 or 9 million in the US...
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That article probably proves that Doggystyle sold well over 1 million copies it's first week, probably close to 1.5 million since Soundscan wasn't in all the stores...If Soundscan says Doggystyle sold 6 million it's probably closer to 8 or 9 million in the US...
true dat, but talkin bout world wide, that shit is over 10 millions believe dat , europe canana , africa , more than 4 millions that makes at least 12 millions world wide