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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: infinite59 on March 15, 2002, 07:43:25 PM
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I don't like talking about Jay-Z, so I'm gonna make this quick. My friend let me borrow his first album. I'd only heard bits and pieces of it before. And it's official. Jay-Z is average and overated. I gave the album several listens through.
"Can't Knock the Hustle." I love that song.
But the rest of the tracks are good, but they lack creativity. You can tell Jay-Z makes music sober. Because it ain't that entertaining or extreme. It's just basic. Some rhymes are creative like, "In Short Sleaves, I bear Arms" but really, it doesn't intoxicate your mind like other music. Your like, that was a good line, but your not like, DAMN I'm feelin this shit. Bottom line. Jay-Z is just a plain, regular dude, who comes up with a good metaphor every now and then. He has no personality.
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*album review*
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^ Wrong... Jay is lyrically superb throughout the album, especially on tracks like "Dead Presidents II", "22 Two's" and "Can I Live" ... please don't call him an average rapper... that's a stupid statement based upon hatred.
Peace.
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^ Wrong... Jay is lyrically superb throughout the album, especially on tracks like "Dead Presidents II", "22 Two's" and "Can I Live" ... please don't call him an average rapper... that's a stupid statement based upon hatred.
Peace.
I didn't say he had average lyrics. His lyrics are above average. But he has a dry personality, and lacks style, you don't "Feel the animosity through the Serwin Vega" if you no what I'm sayin
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you don't "Feel the animosity through the Serwin Vega" if you no what I'm sayin
I can't say I understand that... but fine, I respect your opinion.
Peace.
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GREATEST ALBUM EVER
CAN I LIIIIIIVE
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GREATEST ALBUM EVER
I agree, "Reasonable Doubt" is definitely one of the best albums of all time.
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I agree, "Reasonable Doubt" is definitely one of the best albums of all time.
yea bro
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I agree, "Reasonable Doubt" is definitely one of the best albums of all time.
Not for me personally, & I agree with most of what infinite said too. Jigga got some witty lines & he can write, I give him that, but most of his work doesn't really stick with me, The Blueprint I liked alot within the first week of copping it, but now the novelty's faded.
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Jay Z lacks charisma. And for Shakira how can u call that album the greatest of all time..infront of all of these albums
Illmatic
Enter the 36 Chambers
The CHronic
2001
Doggystyle
All Eyes On Me
7 Day Theory
Me Against the World
Paid In Full
and others.....
Reasonable Doubt is cleary Jay Z's best work but not even one of the greatest albums of all time
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im with infinite and 704d.....jay z is nothin great, hes overatted, he might have a hot song here and there but nothin amazing
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infinite59, I agree with everything you said 8)
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im with infinite and 704d.....jay z is nothin great, hes overatted, he might have a hot song here and there but nothin amazing
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It's a testement to where Jigga started from to where he's at now.
(Yo I recomend anybody who hasn't already seen it to watch "The streets is watching"...it's a tight movie slash video's in the same likeness as "Murder was the case")
This album found a home in my collection in 96'...and it still get's spin's. His collab with Biggie was a set up for the world on what was to come on "Life after Death"...up to that point all BIG fan's were feindin for some new ish.."Brooklyn's finest" deff quenched our thirst for a tight Biggie track...but yo who was this dude holding his own with B.I.G.?
Plus he had the top cutt at the time of it's release..."Ain't no"
Knowing what we know now about Jay-Z...all the sucess & accolades...as well as anomosity he has built up through his carrar so far.
it only makes us look back at this album like daaanm!!
homey came up.
(Pac & Biggie still being alive, I don't know if Jigga get's as much acclaim as he does....but we'll never know)
I give him his props on a tight album..
"Reasonable Doubt"
a hip-hop classic....the birth a new voice
Hatesrats 2oo2
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i give the album a 4.25/5
good but overrated
can't knock the hustle= 4
politcs as usual =4
brooklyn's finest=5
dead presidents 2=5
fellin it=3
d'evils= 4
22 twos-5
can i live-4
aint not nigga- 1 or 2 depending on my mood
friend or foe-3
coming of age-3
cashmere thoughts-4
bring it on 3
regrets-3
can i live 2-4
theres like a couple of classics mixed in there with a couple of solid songs and the rest are just mediocre and jay-z's voice almost has no charisma or variation
it' a good album but it ain't no classic
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It's a testement to where Jigga started from to where he's at now.
(Yo I recomend anybody who hasn't already seen it to watch "The streets is watching"...it's a tight movie slash video's in the same likeness as "Murder was the case")
This album found a home in my collection in 96'...and it still get's spin's. His collab with Biggie was a set up for the world on what was to come on "Life after Death"...up to that point all BIG fan's were feindin for some new ish.."Brooklyn's finest" deff quenched our thirst for a tight Biggie track...but yo who was this dude holding his own with B.I.G.?
Plus he had the top cutt at the time of it's release..."Ain't no"
Knowing what we know now about Jay-Z...all the sucess & accolades...as well as anomosity he has built up through his carrar so far.
it only makes us look back at this album like daaanm!!
homey came up.
(Pac & Biggie still being alive, I don't know if Jigga get's as much acclaim as he does....but we'll never know)
I give him his props on a tight album..
"Reasonable Doubt"
a hip-hop classic....the birth a new voice
Hatesrats 2oo2
on point like stacey adams homie ;D
i got "streets is watching" too and yea its a dope flick
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Jay Z lacks charisma. And for Shakira how can u call that album the greatest of all time..infront of all of these albums
Illmatic
Enter the 36 Chambers
The CHronic
2001
Doggystyle
All Eyes On Me
7 Day Theory
Me Against the World
Paid In Full
and others.....
Reasonable Doubt is cleary Jay Z's best work but not even one of the greatest albums of all time
Reasonable Doubt is clearly one of the best albums of all time, no matter what you all say.. I doubt you have listened to the full album... anyway, it don't matter what you say, it is recognized as a classic album by media/press (5 mics in the source, 10 out of 10 at www.rapreviews.com, the biggest rap reviews site on the net) and hip-hop heads alike (not including jealous, ignorant people as yourself) None of the albums above are better. Don't base your opinion on hate.
Peace.
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I too believe Reasonable Doubt is overrated
Sure its a great album, but 5 mics, nope, maybe 4 & a half
Theres a few songs on that album that are skipable. Dead Presidents II is probably Jay-Z's best song ever IMO.
I also believe Illmatic is overated.
Sure great album, but it is WAY too short, much like Regulate was. Plus I found a few songs skipable. I'd probably give it 4 mic's, maybe 4 & a half.
Thats just my opinion. I feel a number of albums are overrated. Even my favorite East Coast rap duo Mobb Deep have been overrated. The Infamous was a great cd but not a 5 mic.
The Source giving Beanie Sigel's debut "The Truth" 4 & a half mics is just an example of how much there mic system sucks.
Someone should come up with a new system & judge it better. Heck maybe even more accurate, with a percentage score, or a star system they use for rating wrestling matches (example, ***3/4 = 3 & three quater stars)
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imo classic album
absolutely superb and would rate it above the majority of those albums u listed BrownPride323.
Anyway maybe it grows on u. u need to listen to it the whole way through, start to end.
lacks charisma? not imo
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I also believe Illmatic is overated.
illmatic is so so so a definately 5 mics its unbelievable imo
sure its short but anymore would disturb its balance.
IMO illmatic is the best album ever hands down
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imo classic album
absolutely superb and would rate it above the majority of those albums u listed BrownPride323.
Anyway maybe it grows on u. u need to listen to it the whole way through, start to end.
lacks charisma? not imo
That's right... Lack of charisma ? Bullshit... Nas hasn't got any special charisma either.
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Reasonable Doubt is clearly one of the best albums of all time, no matter what you all say.. I doubt you have listened to the full album... anyway, it don't matter what you say, it is recognized as a classic album by media/press (5 mics in the source, 10 out of 10 at www.rapreviews.com, the biggest rap reviews site on the net) and hip-hop heads alike (not including jealous, ignorant people as yourself) None of the albums above are better. Don't base your opinion on hate.
Peace.
who gives a FUCK about the media, and yes Jay Z lacks charisma and yea Nas lacks charisma too but his lyrics make it up for it. Just cuz i dont put Reasonable Doubt as one of the best albums of all time dont mean im hating. U just assume im hating. Hating would be this...Reasonable Doubt is wack, and i didnt say that, I said its Jay Z's best work up to date. If Jay Z goes back to his 96 style. I give it 4.5 mics. Damn im not hating. Trust me this album is at top of my list but not one of the greatest. For me the greatest is like the top 5 and reasonable doubt is in the top 10
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the amount of energy, the tremendously good lyrics, the amazing beats in Ready 2 die, Doggystyle, Me Against the World, Enter the Wu. Reasonable doubt dont even come close to these albums.