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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: R-Tistic on January 30, 2006, 09:29:45 AM
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I know that everybody knows me for bein from L.A. and always supportin L.A. artists, and there are some people who might even think I am biased for LA and against the Bay. However, I got a few things to say about the Bay's rap scene overall. Most people from LA will agree with my commentary, and some will agree with my opinions about their culture and music. I might get knocked for some things I say, but oh well.
I'll start out by sayin that I definitely play a LOT of Bay music, mainly the Hyphy shit, and that I like what the Bay is doin more than what L.A. is doin right now. I have always played Bay music to an extent, even though I always favored L.A. music. I have always bumped E-40 albums, but I didn't really get into the "hyphy" style of music until Federation's single dropped, and that might have been when it first started but I donno the history to it. For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell. The thing is that L.A. culture is SO MUCH different from The Bay, that there are some things that we just can't get into, but we definitely don't "hate" on the Bay or knock their music just because of where they come from. Music wise, most people in L.A. are playin all of the hot songs from the Bay...."Tell me where to go" "Super Hyphy" and many other songs get played in nearly EVERY L.A. club I go to other than The Boogie. Most people in L.A. don't like Mac Dre's music too much, including me, even though I see him as a Bay legend and icon. I just didn't grow up on his music, and just as Suga Free, E-40, and many other unorthodox rappers, you can't expect everybody to really feel his style of music.
As far as the overall sound of the bay music, I think the Bay definitely has their own style, even though a lot of the hyphy music does sound A LOT like crunk regardless of what y'all may want to admit. From how I see it, Rick Rock is the one who has his own sound that doesn't really sound too much like stereotypical west coast, down south, or east coast music. Droop-E's sound is not 100% original at all, but he has a recognizable sound that you can't really identify as bein down south. However, the rest of the hyphy music I hear has strong similarities to down south music, and there is nothin wrong with that but it just can't be denied. I can upload a few songs from the Tampa Bay area (ironic that it is also the bay), and I guarantee that MANY Bay area songs sound exactly like these songs, and if not exact, they sound a whole lot like the Tampa music. Bay songs that have a strong Tampa sound are Super Hyphy, Get on my hype, Burn Rubber (Too short), Go Dumb Remix (Da Muzicians and Federation), Grown Man Business, Go Ignat, and Bang It (Frontline). I just think it's interesting, and that The Bay should hook up with Tampa because they could EASILY appeal to their market.
From what I have seen bein in Florida at my college, The Bay is ready to blow commercially right now, and their songs could be MAJOR if they got promoted to the whole nation, especially in the south. At the last couple of clubs I've been to out here, the DJ who happens to be from Florida is close with somebody from Frisco who goes to school here too, and he played 4-5 Bay Songs at the last few parties we went to. He played Super Hyphy, Tell me where to go, Super Sic wit it, and a few other tracks. When people who had no idea what these songs were saw how The Bay and even LA people reacted to these songs, they got into em just as much and you can tell that these songs could be big. Sayin that....I think The Bay deserves to blow right now a lot more than L.A. does. L.A. had our time in the 90s, and yeah I want us to come back to the spotlight. But bein honest, we just don't have what we need to have overall to appeal to mainstream that is natural to us. We are still trying to find a sound that is ours, and most rappers and some producers are tryin too hard to be New York rather than bein natural and makin dope music. Along with that, LA does not support our own music enough at all for us to even deserve a chance at the spotlight. It is hard as hell to generalize an entire city of people with completely different opinions and mindsets, but lookin at the big picture, that's definitely the case. Therefore, I think L.A. should take a few years to just develop and re-invent ourselves, but the Bay needs to blow up commercial right now. Their music is buzzin throughout the entire country with barely any radio play or TV, and the people in The Bay actually love it which is extremely important. Also, another reason it needs to blow right now is because people are definitely tired of crunk...why do you think Atl stopped jumpin n pushin n now they just wanna lean side to side and snap? The Hyphy movement definitely serves as an alternative to crunk music, and it is a LOT more danceable and still has the same overall energy in the club. But instead of a "what u lookin at nigga" "fuck yo city" "my click runs this shit" type of attitude, it is a lot more fun and damn near unified.
Another thing I gotta say is that Bay Cats need to appreciate the south and the artists there who fuck with y'all. Many people up there seem to feel that the south is against them, and that they just wanna bite their style and not give em credit just as they see L.A. But righit now, that is definitely who y'all need to go through. Lil Jon is helpin out The Bay more than EVERYBODY in L.A., and damn near as much as many cats in the Bay. Think about it...he's easily a top 5 producer and character/face in the rap game, and he definitely doesn't need to help anyone else. But he puts Bay cats on major songs, and makes appearances with cats from the bay that would never get the same love from the likes of The Neptunes, Timbaland, Dre, or anybody in New York.
For now, that is all I really had to say. I'll respond to whatever questions or comments are posted.
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if you own any e-40 albums you'll see lil johns beats on them long before lil john was even big....the bay helped them out.
niggas don't think the bay is against the south, just some niggaz steal shyt and act like they don't know where it came from.
even other westcoast niggaz...poppin they collar and fashizzle? the fuckboy know he got that shyt from da yay.
i can't beliive you sat down and actually wrote all this tho...i hope it was also for a class or somthing...
bottom line is nigga out here don't even give a fuck we mashing and the bay gonna blow...bay is gettin money. niggaz sell enough indie records to have the chains and whips niggaz is tryna go platnum for... peace.
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yeah, im from L.A. and i dont really listen to alot of bay area muzik with a few exceptions like yukmeeze and a few others, but that new sound they got im respectin it, im feelin this shit right here .... .
from
The Team - Hyphy Juice (wild in here)
http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3S03IONA3DAM80HMTYXSK4JBIH
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Are you serious? That new bay sound is wack so is crunk music!!
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I feel ya R-Tistic, like it or not, nobody anywhere else is checking for that old school LA sound anymore that hit in the 90's people better just learn to embrace the new shit
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the bay def got next looks like really the south is slowin down cuz their isnt no one we are really expectin to cme out of the south at the moment. This is a perfect time for E-40 to knock down that door which he could cuz he got that machine behind him. I also agree wit R about la not really havin a sound too many dudes tryin out to many sounds and its not constant. Personally i feel once bay knocks down those doors la will get its shine like how it did before cuz if im thinkin rite the first dude to blow on the west was too short and than other la cats like ice t and nwa came to play. LA def needs a sound i think really if they go wit that funky uptempo style i think they can appeal more kinda similar to what quik is doin now cuz no one else got that type of sound and it kinda def southern cali cuz it still got that funk but its different from 90s sound and is more uptempo
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Are you serious? That new bay sound is wack so is crunk music!!
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I love the new Bay sound and Im supporting the movement. I think LA is stuck in the past and needs to find a way to move on. That old gangsta sound is just tired and old. All that crippin and bloodin is so in the past. Most of these cats screamin crip or blood wouldnt have had the heart to back in the day. These guys wouldve been labeled busters or marks..
Lets take Game for instance.. he wouldnt have been able to get away with the crap hes doing now. Back in 88, if you was a Blood... flammed up in the streets.. you had major balls. Most were undercover, sporting brown or green unless they was in they own hood. If you had a tear drop tattoo, you were respected, period. If you had braids, people took notice.. and generally watched their back around you. Basically, it was crazy back then. Now its all about a fashion show.
Anyway, not to get off topic.. just wanted to explain why LA needs to move on. ITS OLD NEWS!
Support the bay. They found a way to redefine themselves beyond the Mobb Music days. I love it that legends like E-40, Mac Dre (RIP) Rick Rock, and EA Ski are at the heart of the new movement too. You just gotta love it.
My two cents.
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if you own any e-40 albums you'll see lil johns beats on them long before lil john was even big....the bay helped them out.
niggas don't think the bay is against the south, just some niggaz steal shyt and act like they don't know where it came from.
even other westcoast niggaz...poppin they collar and fashizzle? the fuckboy know he got that shyt from da yay.
i can't beliive you sat down and actually wrote all this tho...i hope it was also for a class or somthing...
bottom line is nigga out here don't even give a fuck we mashing and the bay gonna blow...bay is gettin money. niggaz sell enough indie records to have the chains and whips niggaz is tryna go platnum for... peace.
When Lil Jon first started workin with 40, he was already big in the south, just not nationwide. I know that people definitely steal a lotta Bay shit and act like they created it, I definitely feel you on that. But many people from the Bay seem to have a "fuck the south" and "fuck LA" attitude because of that. I always write a lot, that's just my style since it comes out as fast as I talk. I gave y'all props basically thru the whole thing but it seem like u still got a "who gives a fuck, we doin ours" type of attitude.
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I think that The Bay has always had a "fu@k LA" attitude because LA stole alot of Bay slang and got shine for it. LA has never given proper respect to The Bay. In alot of ways, LA acts as though The Bay doesn't even exist. I don’t fault The Bay for feeling animosity.
As far as all this comparison with the south, I really don’t see it. Just because E-40 is on Lil Jons label doesn’t mean that the south is helping out The Bay. It’s just a business deal. The Bay has always been able to hold their own.
Its time for the Bay to get theirs even if it means aligning with the south. If you are about The West then stop with the comparisons and just give up props. We got a new thing going on over here and its exciting to see it happen.
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The one thing that would really put the west back where it should be is for the Bay and LA cats to support west coast artists ,or,start being on eachothers albums. You really dont see too many Bay cats on LA cats albums or vice versa.
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YO, IN ALL HONESTY I KNOW DAMN NEAR EVERY RAPPER IN LA AND HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY HATE ON THE BAY! THATS THE MOST RIDICULOUS SHIT IVE EVER HEARD! I KNOW FROM A RADIO STAND POINT, THEY DONT PLAY MUCH OF EACH OTHERS SHIT, BECAUSE NORTH CALI & SOUTH CALI ARE LIKE 2 DIFF. WORLDS AND MOST PD'S IN THE BAY ARE DICKS BUT I DO KNOW 4O WATER IS DAMN NEAR EVERY RAPPERS FAVORITE RAPPER, THE WESTCOAST IS THE WESTCOAST, IT DONT MATTER, NORTH, SOUTH, WA, OREGON. THE COAST IS THE COAST, YOU DONT SEE FOOLS FROM THE SOUTH BEEFIN OVER NO DUMB ASS SHIT LIKE THAT, NIGGAS KNOW YALL MADE THOSE FLY ASS WORDS UP, AND I REALLY DONTTHINK THE BAY GOT A "FUCK LA" ATTITUDE, I THINK THEY JUST DOIN THEM, AND THATS WHAT THEY R SUPPOSE TO BE DOING. I THINK YALL PUTTIN TO MUCH ON IT,
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I think that The Bay has always had a "fu@k LA" attitude because LA stole alot of Bay slang and got shine for it. LA has never given proper respect to The Bay. In alot of ways, LA acts as though The Bay doesn't even exist. I don’t fault The Bay for feeling animosity.
As far as all this comparison with the south, I really don’t see it. Just because E-40 is on Lil Jons label doesn’t mean that the south is helping out The Bay. It’s just a business deal. The Bay has always been able to hold their own.
Its time for the Bay to get theirs even if it means aligning with the south. If you are about The West then stop with the comparisons and just give up props. We got a new thing going on over here and its exciting to see it happen.
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The one thing that would really put the west back where it should be is for the Bay and LA cats to support west coast artists ,or,start being on eachothers albums. You really dont see too many Bay cats on LA cats albums or vice versa.
THATS THE MAIN REASON I REACHED OUT TO BALANCE TO BE ON MY NEW SHIT, IM RIDIN WIT NIGGAS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THERE FROM
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man..... stop talking like u know what's up down here and who hates on the bay and whatnot, stupid shit.... ::)
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For everybody who says they don't hear similarities between the bay and the south, here are some songs from Tampa that I said sound very similar to Bay songs.
Ca$hius and Q45 - Tampa Song (Prod. by J Butta)
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2BPNBZY4VJQ6J3ODCAXE3CGQ0B
-This track is from 2003. It sounds A LOT, and I mean a LOT like Super Hyphy. Whenever I play Super Hyphy for somebody in Florida, they are like "is that Q45/Cashius song? Oh it ain't? It sounds just like it." Super Hyphy was prolly my favorite song last year, but it took me a while to hear it without thinkin about this track. It also sounds a bit like "Bang it" because of the drum-bass line.
Khia - K-Wang wit it
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QYFYVZSS80ZN0SWQFN33VCN5D
-This track came out in either 2001 or 2002, but I know it got played in every Florida club around 2002. It sounds like Super Hyphy as well...this song is really the one that inspired the previous song that I posted. This is the same girl who did that "My neck, my back" track.
Tampa Tony - Keep Jukin
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X83YXXIFL2PO3EP6D7AUNE4U5
-This track came out in either 2002 or 2003. It sounds a lil bit like Get on my hype to me, but it just has the same vibe as some Hyphy songs.
DSD - Look back at it
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CIAEV4OZ03WD3506MWDKTGVOZ
-I donno when it came out, but I don't think it's too old. It has a similar tempo and vibe to a lotta Bay songs, like "Burn rubber" and The Team "Hot in here"
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if you own any e-40 albums you'll see lil johns beats on them long before lil john was even big....the bay helped them out.
niggas don't think the bay is against the south, just some niggaz steal shyt and act like they don't know where it came from.
even other westcoast niggaz...poppin they collar and fashizzle? the fuckboy know he got that shyt from da yay.
i can't beliive you sat down and actually wrote all this tho...i hope it was also for a class or somthing...
bottom line is nigga out here don't even give a fuck we mashing and the bay gonna blow...bay is gettin money. niggaz sell enough indie records to have the chains and whips niggaz is tryna go platnum for... peace.
E 40 blew up in the South before he blew up in the Bay. The south always had major love for the Bay, and Federal is an example where they gave the Bay love before the Bay gave the Bay love. All this regional shit is goin too far sometimes.
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man..... stop talking like u know what's up down here and who hates on the bay and whatnot, stupid shit.... ::)
WHO IS THIS DIRECTED TO? IF ITS FOR ME, I WONT GET INTO ANY CHILDISH COMMENTARY, ESPECIALLY IN A FUCKIN CHATROOM,WHERE I CANT SMACK THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE FOR MAKING A DUMB ASS COMMENT. AND I HAVE BEEN ALL UP IN THE BAY, RAY LUV & THEM NIGGAS IS MY FOLKS. I LIVE IN LA, SO DONT START THE BULLSHIT, WE ARE HAVING A CIVIL DISCUSSION, CAN YOU HANDLE THAT?
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R-Tistic, you made some good points. However, you fail to realize, when the South was underground (the beginning - '97), they checked for Bay Area music, more so than LA. Listen to the Eight Ball & MJG's(Suave House), and early Cash Money. The South was influenced by the West, but heavily more so by the Bay Area scene. Eventually the South coined their own niche/sound, but we ( The Bay) birthed the shit.
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R-Tistic, you made some good points. However, you fail to realize, when the South was underground (the beginning - '97), they checked for Bay Area music, more so than LA. Listen to the Eight Ball & MJG's(Suave House), and early Cash Money. The South was influenced by the West, but heavily more so by the Bay Area scene. Eventually the South coined their own niche/sound, but we ( The Bay) birthed the shit.
Yeah I have realized bein down here that many people in the south check for the Bay more so than LA, especially when it comes to artists who aren't on TV. I just see different people, mainly on the net, who are from the Bay that seem to feel the south hates on them too, and they hate bein seen in the same categories as the south and all that. The South's overall sound did evolve from a lot of 80s Bay rap, and some of the 80s Bay rap came from the midwest funk sound which evolved from the 60s and 70s down south and midwest soul music. So everything evolves and goes in cycles.
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Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...
It was all cali or westcoast, I remember thought hearing artistst representing the bay early in the 90's(spice 1, E40 richie rich etc) and noticed a few distinct differences mainly that the beats were alot thicker with the mobbed out baselines and the 808 style production and they used alot of lingo that I wasnt yet up on...Polotics eventually took to play when LA radio stations werent playing up and coming bay area artists and it seemed like all the sudden late 90's its two whole seperate genres of music.
I think if we could get rid of that segregated mentality westcoast hip hop would be dominant again.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=101512.0
Kill all the Bay Vs. L.A. noise.
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Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...
treal spill my friend
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Im gonna be straight up real with yall...untill the internet was around people didnt really seperate LA and bay area rap...
treal spill my friend
That could be the case, but I don't really know. I grew up all years before college in LA, and I never really went to the bay to kick it like that and I only met people from there on different high school trips. I never really saw the Bay as bein separate, I just knew they had a different sound that everybody in LA that I knew still fucked with just as hard. I didn't even know there was tension between the Bay and LA until I got to college, and my first year here, it seemed like there were several people from The Bay who didn't get along with several people from LA. It usually didn't involve the music though, it was more about culture. But now, it seems like most younger people from LA, at least the college aged ones, love most new Bay music, and the older heads love the older bay music. The younger ones who aren't in college don't know too much about what they got goin on, aside from those who use the internet.
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LA rap>Bay rap IMO. But I can see why there is resentment in the bay. They really need there props. Shit is on a diffrent level up there.
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The reason there is resentment in the Bay is because the Bay feels underappreciated and disrespected by pretty much everywhere else while the Bay slang, trends and style start popping up in various places throughout the map and those places take the credit for it. Personally I dont care nothin about all the bay vs the world shit. i would like to see these artists out here get some recognition cause in all honesty I think we got the best rap music period, but its not somethin i'm gonna have bad feelings for nobody over. I love LA, the South AND the East Coast and I got major love in each of those places from damn near everybody I came into contact with. nobody was like, "Oh you from the Bay? Fuck the Bay!" lol folks need to just ease up a little bit. Rockers and R&B cats and country singers dont give a fuck about where nobody is from, and damn sure aint gonna hate no other region over some fuckin music. Maybe rap is just self destructive by nature.
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man..... stop talking like u know what's up down here and who hates on the bay and whatnot, stupid shit.... ::)
WHO IS THIS DIRECTED TO? IF ITS FOR ME, I WONT GET INTO ANY CHILDISH COMMENTARY, ESPECIALLY IN A FUCKIN CHATROOM,WHERE I CANT SMACK THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE FOR MAKING A DUMB ASS COMMENT. AND I HAVE BEEN ALL UP IN THE BAY, RAY LUV & THEM NIGGAS IS MY FOLKS. I LIVE IN LA, SO DONT START THE BULLSHIT, WE ARE HAVING A CIVIL DISCUSSION, CAN YOU HANDLE THAT?
:laugh: nah man I was talkin to the guy before u who said the Bay had a fuck LA attitude and that LA didn't like the Bay
I agreed with how u addressed him
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^^^^^My Bad hommie :-X, I was wondering hahahaa
Peace
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The reason there is resentment in the Bay is because the Bay feels underappreciated and disrespected by pretty much everywhere else while the Bay slang, trends and style start popping up in various places throughout the map and those places take the credit for it. Personally I dont care nothin about all the bay vs the world shit. i would like to see these artists out here get some recognition cause in all honesty I think we got the best rap music period, but its not somethin i'm gonna have bad feelings for nobody over. I love LA, the South AND the East Coast and I got major love in each of those places from damn near everybody I came into contact with. nobody was like, "Oh you from the Bay? Fuck the Bay!" lol folks need to just ease up a little bit. Rockers and R&B cats and country singers dont give a fuck about where nobody is from, and damn sure aint gonna hate no other region over some fuckin music. Maybe rap is just self destructive by nature.
real talk! Rap is some crazy shit, very self destructive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! specially in America
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Ok i see all yall givin yall lil thoughts and such thangs on tha bay so id juss thought id give yall a prespective cuz i am a BAY REPRESENTA, SOUFSIDE RICHMOND 510 YADADAMEAN ALL DAY.. but now its not like up hea in tha bay we like "Fuck L.A." its juss that we really dont care 2 much about it you feel me..there aint no beef between L.A. and tha Bay, cuz niggas out here fucks wit la..all tha time...we back and fourth 2 LA its nothin..but we feel that since such LA gets so much music exposure..that they have they power 2 at least put us on at least a lil bit..i mean now la is juss now starting 2 support us..Man we been doin this bay shit 4 years this aint nothin new..and wat makes us so different from anybody is that we support our bay artists FIRST..not like most cities where they put the bullshit mainstream artists first..well..as far as the people go nigga we treat our artists like the source treat Jay-z you feel me..but as far as that MUTHAFUCKA TURF HITTA dat b leavin posts up here nigga you sound stupid as fuck 2 say that even tho E-40 from tha bay he blew up in tha south first, nigga you got life fucked up nigga 40 been blew up out hea blood, nigga movin 200-300,000 units out the trunk of his car..he aint go 2 tha south 2 do dat shit..man wat eva sound you hear 4rm tha bay is wat we actually do, street life man niggas got money out here we head bussas..im sure yall heard about the murder capital of cali! it sure aint LA its lil city called Richmond, dats located in tha bay..but as far as the south now we fucks wit the south cuz they fucks wit us we colaborates on a whole lotta shit..lil jon been fuckin wit us..he see wat we tryinna do..but as far as that crunk shit..no we didnt copy..no they didnt copy us..hyphy and crunk is like cuzins..we been gettin hyphy..hyphy is juss a new word that surfaced like 2 1/2 years ago..hyphy is energy and its also a dance..if you see tha "tell me when 2 go" video that explains everything..i mean but man all we wont out hea is 2 be heard..we tired of people takin our shit and not givin us props..if they was 2 give us our props we would have been on by now but since they wanna do that we gone do it on our own man we gots 2 and its dum ass frustrating 2 see everybody else on tv and we not and 2 kno dat we got major talent..all people gotta do is take tha time 2 listen..man i ask all yall out there MAN PLEASE SUPPORT OUR BAY ARTISTS give us a chance blood cuz i kno yall tired of dat wack ass shit that the tv plays and tha radios..but its not their fault their juss doin wat their told..but this shit starts wit tha people wants man not wat they want us 2 listen 2 on they real but man if yall wanna holla im moe than happy 2 chop it up yall one time *gone*
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why are you bragging about "your" city being the countrys murder capital? i dont think Richmond is 510 either, although i could be wrong....plus hyphy is not really a new word keak da sneak and mac dre have been saying it for at LEAST 4 years
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Im not braggin i was juss putin it out there to let it be known in the bay we aint no sucka's out here mayne and wat we rap about we really do unlike these other popcorn rappers. How you gone tell me the Rich aint 510 when you dont even live here PHILLYBOY..but yea Oakland a.k.a tha Town is also 510..so chea get cha facts str8 boi.
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Everycity out there has got killers & gangstas...i love the bay and have spent plenty of time out there, but the ghettos of newark, jersey city, flint, kc, baltimore, are just as rough, so add something real to this forum or dont post at all, and i know u aint typing this from the gutters of richmond either
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
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I feel ya dog. I fucks wit all that shit! The westcoast is the westcoast. you cant do nothin but give the bay props, them cat's have come up wit the coldest words in the game
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Bay Area rap in the 90s was the shit.
but Present Bay Area rap is pure garbage. they hyphy movement is a complete crunk rip off. alot of bay area rappers today use dirty south beats. if u from cali then keep it westcoast. instead they ride another regions nuts too much. thats why i dont respect the bay.
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Bay Area rap in the 90s was the shit.
but Present Bay Area rap is pure garbage. they hyphy movement is a complete crunk rip off. alot of bay area rappers today use dirty south beats. if u from cali then keep it westcoast. instead they ride another regions nuts too much. thats why i dont respect the bay.
u gotta remember tho, the biggest hitters to come out of LA....are on some Eastcoast dicks these days. Snoop is hardly considered a WestCoast artist anymore with his bullshit. Dre would rather work with East Coast artists then West Coast. Game came out and went strait to G-Unit. His style sound more made for the East as it is. Also remember, Snoop went to No Limit. Mack 10 dropped that Hoo Bangin shit and hooked up with Cash Money. Daz went to So So Def, etc. these were the guys that called theyselves leaders in the West...and they sold out.
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I think that The Bay has always had a "fu@k LA" attitude because LA stole alot of Bay slang and got shine for it. LA has never given proper respect to The Bay. In alot of ways, LA acts as though The Bay doesn't even exist.
shut the fuck up. nobody in L.A. says Beezy, Thizz, hyphy, scrapers & the rest of that bay shit.
wtf u mean by LA acts as the bay don't exist? LA don't even support their own artist so why the fuck should they support another region for? and the bay don't support L.A. anyways so it goes both ways u idiot.
and alot of the bay vs LA bullshit comes from the Dodgers vs Giants rivalry. muthafuckas in frisco love to hate on L.A. fo everything.
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
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Whuts Crackin Addicted? you a cole dude! hahaha
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
Well as I always say....it's funny when people from anywhere outside of L.A. - let it be NY, Atl, Miami, The Bay, Diego, etc. etc - say that L.A. doesn't like them for whatever reason...when the truth is, L.A. CATS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!!!! I never really say L.A. as a whole having that elitist attitude as you say, and that sounds like how everybody seems to feel about New York rappers and people in general. But to me, L.A. is too many people for you to ever generalize like that. L.A.'s top artists and producers have that same attitde towards people who aren't big and aren't doin as much as they are in L.A., so of course they'll be the same way about people outside of L.A. you know. I feel that most situations that sounds like yours happen from people takin things and blowin them way outta proportion, and then wantin to use certain things as an excuse to generalize or have tension with somebody else when it really isn't neccessary. If you were in L.A., you would realize that there are people who are unestablished and may or many not have a bit of buzz, who still think they are better than EVERYBODY in L.A., and that most WEST COAST rappers suck...not just L.A., but anybody from the West, period. I know cats who are born n raised in L.A. who don't want to be "classified" as a west coast artist, and claim it's because they want to be universal to the nation, when the truth is that they are ashamed and feel that most west coast rappers are trash.
So for whatever reasons you feel like you do, I am sure you may have a bit of evidence to support your claim, but believe me, that's really not the way it is.
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Bay Area rap in the 90s was the shit.
but Present Bay Area rap is pure garbage. they hyphy movement is a complete crunk rip off. alot of bay area rappers today use dirty south beats. if u from cali then keep it westcoast. instead they ride another regions nuts too much. thats why i dont respect the bay.
u gotta remember tho, the biggest hitters to come out of LA....are on some Eastcoast dicks these days. Snoop is hardly considered a WestCoast artist anymore with his bullshit. Dre would rather work with East Coast artists then West Coast. Game came out and went strait to G-Unit. His style sound more made for the East as it is. Also remember, Snoop went to No Limit. Mack 10 dropped that Hoo Bangin shit and hooked up with Cash Money. Daz went to So So Def, etc. these were the guys that called theyselves leaders in the West...and they sold out.
I wouldn't even say that they are the ones on East Coast dick...most L.A. rappers in general right now seem to be on the east coast's dick, and most upcoming rappers sound A LOT more east coast than they sound west coast. I am not the type lookin for a straight 90's style of delivery, but I get annoyed when every rapper I hear tries to rap with a NY accent, use NY slang (it's ya boy, it's the kid, holla at ya boy, etc. etc.), try to imitate the NY swag, and use a complete NY style with their punchlines, topics, and all else.
I don't think Hyphy is a complete rip-off of crunk, but crunk has definitely been around longer, and there are many similarities regardless of what people may say. It has the same energy, and many songs have similar sounds in it.
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ok as far as that punk ass nigga PHILLYBOI..nigga i am writing from tha gutters of tha rich..ok yea there are ghettos but im reppin mines boi..wat im sayin is cum around hea and yo ass would leave ass naked boi.. POCKETS TURNED INSIDE OUT..im not tryinna b hard or nothin im juss tellin it like it is..but i agree 100% with TeeRaySix9Teen..here in tha bay we dont copy nobody we do out own thang reguardless of the exposure or not..man even if tell me whenna go dnt make it we still gone slap dat shit till tha amps blow out in tha scraper, goin dummy on top of tha car, shakin our shit, goin 18 cuz thats our music, yall could hate it or love it we gne still do wat we do..and imma say this shit one moe muthafuckin time..HYPHY BEEN OUT 4 THA LONGEST..IT WAS JUSS NEVER EXPOSED LIKE CRUNK WAS!!!SO WE AINT COPYIN SHIT..how we gone copy sumthin when we are the orginators of so many trends?? dnt you guys see the pattern of all tha stolen lingo and styles thats jus starting to surface through out the industry?? for example.."stunner shades"= BIG ASS GRANNY SHADES OR ANY TYPE OF BIG ASS RAW ASS SHADES..now all of a sudden we see erybody wearin em i.e. jermaine dupri in the "grillz" video..we been doin dat 4 like 4-5 years now..STEP YA GAME UP PIMPIN
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
youre an idiot homie. San Diego has a big independant scene. people like u are the reason that artists sell out. u act as if selling a lot of records makes what u do "quality". the Eastcoast is kickin our ass in sales.....does that mean all their artists are better? No. So dont pretend that LA has all this talent that the rest of the state doesnt, just because some LA artist have more marketing. Talkin about "we birth this bitch"....YOU didnt do shit lol. Ignorant muthafuckas with your mentality will keep the west from comin back to the forefront. You dont see that just creates an LA vs The Rest of Kali mindset. That shit is stupid. Last year ive heard so many people (even on this forum) say they heard more quality albums come out of the Bay and Dago then what came out of LA. Like i said....Quality, not just strong marketing schemes. Get your shit together before u come back and respond fool.
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
Well as I always say....it's funny when people from anywhere outside of L.A. - let it be NY, Atl, Miami, The Bay, Diego, etc. etc - say that L.A. doesn't like them for whatever reason...when the truth is, L.A. CATS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!!!! I never really say L.A. as a whole having that elitist attitude as you say, and that sounds like how everybody seems to feel about New York rappers and people in general. But to me, L.A. is too many people for you to ever generalize like that. L.A.'s top artists and producers have that same attitde towards people who aren't big and aren't doin as much as they are in L.A., so of course they'll be the same way about people outside of L.A. you know. I feel that most situations that sounds like yours happen from people takin things and blowin them way outta proportion, and then wantin to use certain things as an excuse to generalize or have tension with somebody else when it really isn't neccessary. If you were in L.A., you would realize that there are people who are unestablished and may or many not have a bit of buzz, who still think they are better than EVERYBODY in L.A., and that most WEST COAST rappers suck...not just L.A., but anybody from the West, period. I know cats who are born n raised in L.A. who don't want to be "classified" as a west coast artist, and claim it's because they want to be universal to the nation, when the truth is that they are ashamed and feel that most west coast rappers are trash.
So for whatever reasons you feel like you do, I am sure you may have a bit of evidence to support your claim, but believe me, that's really not the way it is.
i dunno man. this is the way i look at it. when a wide range of different people from different areas who have NO tie to eachother all seem to have the same opinion about u...maybe u should look at yourself and not point at others (not talkin about YOU in particular, u get the idea tho). To be real I like LA, i stay on the grind back n forth from Dago to LA all the time. But i do see the attitude LA muthafuckas seem to have a lot. And its been evident just here in this post by that Addicted to Beef fool. They SERIOUSLY think that we, or the Bay, give a shit what goes on in LA. And really, we dont. We have our own issues, own problems, push our own music, work with our own artists, cept for the collabs with Bay Area cats. But none of us focus on LA like it seems a lot of u think. To me, its just another city. We dont hate yall, we dont love yall. Like i said, this is a big part of the reason that SD and the Bay tend to do alotta work together and LA isnt a part of most of it.
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
youre an idiot homie. San Diego has a big independant scene. people like u are the reason that artists sell out. u act as if selling a lot of records makes what u do "quality". the Eastcoast is kickin our ass in sales.....does that mean all their artists are better? No. So dont pretend that LA has all this talent that the rest of the state doesnt, just because some LA artist have more marketing. Talkin about "we birth this bitch"....YOU didnt do shit lol. Ignorant muthafuckas with your mentality will keep the west from comin back to the forefront. You dont see that just creates an LA vs The Rest of Kali mindset. That shit is stupid. Last year ive heard so many people (even on this forum) say they heard more quality albums come out of the Bay and Dago then what came out of LA. Like i said....Quality, not just strong marketing schemes. Get your shit together before u come back and respond fool.
who the fuck does san diego have? mitchy & jayo? none of those dudes are going no where. Your biggest rap selling artist is Lil Rob whos majority of his fan base is in Los Angeles. And i don't dislike any certain region outside of L.A. i just can't stand muthafuckaz like u who always bitch "L.A. always hating on Diego, L.A. is always hating on the bay." Quit crying you little bitch. Nobody in L.A. even thinks about any other region. It comes down the jealousy. L.A. gets alot of attention & Diego & the bay don't so therefore u feel bitter inside towards L.A..
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ok as far as that punk ass nigga PHILLYBOI..nigga i am writing from tha gutters of tha rich..ok yea there are ghettos but im reppin mines boi..wat im sayin is cum around hea and yo ass would leave ass naked boi.. POCKETS TURNED INSIDE OUT..im not tryinna b hard or nothin im juss tellin it like it is..but i agree 100% with TeeRaySix9Teen..here in tha bay we dont copy nobody we do out own thang reguardless of the exposure or not..man even if tell me whenna go dnt make it we still gone slap dat shit till tha amps blow out in tha scraper, goin dummy on top of tha car, shakin our shit, goin 18 cuz thats our music, yall could hate it or love it we gne still do wat we do..and imma say this shit one moe muthafuckin time..HYPHY BEEN OUT 4 THA LONGEST..IT WAS JUSS NEVER EXPOSED LIKE CRUNK WAS!!!SO WE AINT COPYIN SHIT..how we gone copy sumthin when we are the orginators of so many trends?? dnt you guys see the pattern of all tha stolen lingo and styles thats jus starting to surface through out the industry?? for example.."stunner shades"= BIG ASS GRANNY SHADES OR ANY TYPE OF BIG ASS RAW ASS SHADES..now all of a sudden we see erybody wearin em i.e. jermaine dupri in the "grillz" video..we been doin dat 4 like 4-5 years now..STEP YA GAME UP PIMPIN
hyphy didn't make noise untill the federation put that shit out which wasn't that long ago. and regardless what bay area people say, "Hyphy" is a poor mans "Crunk" even E-40 said Hyphy is to the bay what Crunk is to the south.
and i ain't hating on you but please don't take credit for stunner shades. thats just pathetic. that shit didn't pop off in the bay.
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Well as I always say....it's funny when people from anywhere outside of L.A. - let it be NY, Atl, Miami, The Bay, Diego, etc. etc - say that L.A. doesn't like them for whatever reason...when the truth is, L.A. CATS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!!!! I never really say L.A. as a whole having that elitist attitude as you say, and that sounds like how everybody seems to feel about New York rappers and people in general. But to me, L.A. is too many people for you to ever generalize like that. L.A.'s top artists and producers have that same attitde towards people who aren't big and aren't doin as much as they are in L.A., so of course they'll be the same way about people outside of L.A. you know. I feel that most situations that sounds like yours happen from people takin things and blowin them way outta proportion, and then wantin to use certain things as an excuse to generalize or have tension with somebody else when it really isn't neccessary. If you were in L.A., you would realize that there are people who are unestablished and may or many not have a bit of buzz, who still think they are better than EVERYBODY in L.A., and that most WEST COAST rappers suck...not just L.A., but anybody from the West, period. I know cats who are born n raised in L.A. who don't want to be "classified" as a west coast artist, and claim it's because they want to be universal to the nation, when the truth is that they are ashamed and feel that most west coast rappers are trash.
So for whatever reasons you feel like you do, I am sure you may have a bit of evidence to support your claim, but believe me, that's really not the way it is.
i dunno man. this is the way i look at it. when a wide range of different people from different areas who have NO tie to eachother all seem to have the same opinion about u...maybe u should look at yourself and not point at others (not talkin about YOU in particular, u get the idea tho). To be real I like LA, i stay on the grind back n forth from Dago to LA all the time. But i do see the attitude LA muthafuckas seem to have a lot. And its been evident just here in this post by that Addicted to Beef fool. They SERIOUSLY think that we, or the Bay, give a shit what goes on in LA. And really, we dont. We have our own issues, own problems, push our own music, work with our own artists, cept for the collabs with Bay Area cats. But none of us focus on LA like it seems a lot of u think. To me, its just another city. We dont hate yall, we dont love yall. Like i said, this is a big part of the reason that SD and the Bay tend to do alotta work together and LA isnt a part of most of it.
Well I donno, you'd have to give me examples of what goes on and what has happened to you, because I definitely never hear of anybody from L.A. knockin people in Diego. Most people I know don't know too much of anything about the San Diego scene, and it seemed like I was hearin a lot about SD rappers about a year or two ago, but I have barely been hearin anything lately. Most L.A. people who aren't rappers and all that usually like anybody who is dope or who is exposed to them. L.A. rappers as I said are cocky toward each other, and that carries to people outside of L.A. One reason nobody dope ever comes out of L.A. is because L.A. people tear them down before they even have a chance to blow. I know Game is a very questionable person overall, but it's sad how EVERYBODY was just waitin to bring him down, and how they used every single bit of info to tear down his character and kill his chances of blowin up or stayin around in the industry. They don't realize that people outside of L.A. who will only get to hear Game will say "damn, well if Game is fake and he's the best thing L.A. has, everybody else there must suck" or anything similar.
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ok as far as that punk ass nigga PHILLYBOI..nigga i am writing from tha gutters of tha rich..ok yea there are ghettos but im reppin mines boi..wat im sayin is cum around hea and yo ass would leave ass naked boi.. POCKETS TURNED INSIDE OUT..im not tryinna b hard or nothin im juss tellin it like it is..but i agree 100% with TeeRaySix9Teen..here in tha bay we dont copy nobody we do out own thang reguardless of the exposure or not..man even if tell me whenna go dnt make it we still gone slap dat shit till tha amps blow out in tha scraper, goin dummy on top of tha car, shakin our shit, goin 18 cuz thats our music, yall could hate it or love it we gne still do wat we do..and imma say this shit one moe muthafuckin time..HYPHY BEEN OUT 4 THA LONGEST..IT WAS JUSS NEVER EXPOSED LIKE CRUNK WAS!!!SO WE AINT COPYIN SHIT..how we gone copy sumthin when we are the orginators of so many trends?? dnt you guys see the pattern of all tha stolen lingo and styles thats jus starting to surface through out the industry?? for example.."stunner shades"= BIG ASS GRANNY SHADES OR ANY TYPE OF BIG ASS RAW ASS SHADES..now all of a sudden we see erybody wearin em i.e. jermaine dupri in the "grillz" video..we been doin dat 4 like 4-5 years now..STEP YA GAME UP PIMPIN
hyphy didn't make noise untill the federation put that shit out which wasn't that long ago. and regardless what bay area people say, "Hyphy" is a poor mans "Crunk" even E-40 said Hyphy is to the bay what Crunk is to the south.
and i ain't hating on you but please don't take credit for stunner shades. thats just pathetic. that shit didn't pop off in the bay.
I do agree that many people will try to act as is Hyphy has been around forever, and then say "well so what if crunk was around longer, there have been many things we started first that we never got credit for". I wouldn't call it a rip off of crunk, but more of an alternative to it. I just think they need to admit that there will always be major comparisons between the two, and they are undeniable. If you wanna be real, crunk's been around since the 90s.
I think the main thing is that many Bay people are too overzealous in their support for The Bay. Bein real, I wish L.A. could have somethin goin on to where we had supporters with the same enthusiasm as people in the Bay, because most L.A. people could care less about L.A. rap and havin our own sound. But with overzealous support comes a lot of bias, along with being over-defensive about things, and it also brings along many people who absorb the culture and basically try too hard to show that they are part of it.
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Yo check it out, im from frisco. 95% of the time, im listining only to west coast heat. now being from the bay area, i think im allowed to say this shit. to me, that hyphy, and get stupid shit is the stupidest and gayist thing ive heard. to me, that kind of music is a false representive of the bay area.
i dont know anybody that does that hyphy shit.. nobody mang. this type of bay area music is completely different from when i was coming up.
what happend to the type of music of Too$hort, 2pac, RBL Posse, Dre Dogg?
I also dont know why The Game doesn't appreciate The Bay area when on tv, when he knows he started off in San Francisco.
sucka free 415 beeeyatch
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Yo check it out, im from frisco. 95% of the time, im listining only to west coast heat. now being from the bay area, i think im allowed to say this shit. to me, that hyphy, and get stupid shit is the stupidest and gayist thing ive heard. to me, that kind of music is a false representive of the bay area.
i dont know anybody that does that hyphy shit.. nobody mang. this type of bay area music is completely different from when i was coming up.
what happend to the type of music of Too$hort, 2pac, RBL Posse, Dre Dogg?
I also dont know why The Game doesn't appreciate The Bay area when on tv, when he knows he started off in San Francisco.
sucka free 415 beeeyatch
thats what i mean by 90s bay area rap > present. rappin 4 tay "playaz club" was my jam.
Why do people feel game needs to give credit to the bay area? his music & his name was never poppin in the bay. all he did was record a demo with JT The Bigga Figga. he bloew up and got all this hype when he signed with Aftermath.
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ok well Addicted 2 Beef, Where did it pop off then?? and yes e-40 did say that they are similar but tha only reason y he said that is because theirs no other way 4 u dumb fucks 2 relate.."Hyphy" is just a word...but we been doin this same dance even b4 tha word came out..actually over the years the dance has evolved into different dances..basiclly its a turf dance..just goin dumb basiclly repin' to turf..our music is not crunk wat so ever! agh its a whole different base line cuz cuz..but if you were 2 live here and contuniously time and time again people stealin our shit(3 years late)you would see where im comin from im not just sayin this shit 4 my health or juss tryinna get on this shit is real on mamas..yall gne see imma juss sit back in chill on yall bootsie ass j-cats..lol
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ur still a clown ;D
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ok well Addicted 2 Beef, Where did it pop off then?? and yes e-40 did say that they are similar but tha only reason y he said that is because theirs no other way 4 u dumb fucks 2 relate.."Hyphy" is just a word...but we been doin this same dance even b4 tha word came out..actually over the years the dance has evolved into different dances..basiclly its a turf dance..just goin dumb basiclly repin' to turf..our music is not crunk wat so ever! agh its a whole different base line cuz cuz..but if you were 2 live here and contuniously time and time again people stealin our shit(3 years late)you would see where im comin from im not just sayin this shit 4 my health or juss tryinna get on this shit is real on mamas..yall gne see imma juss sit back in chill on yall bootsie ass j-cats..lol
Give some examples of people "stealin your shit".
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The reason why The Game should show some love for The Bay, is because without The Bay, without working Jt and not making any songs, how would Aftermath know who The Game was? Thats all Im saying...
sucka free 415
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ok well Addicted 2 Beef, Where did it pop off then??
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wheres ur proof that the bay made em popular?
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
youre an idiot homie. San Diego has a big independant scene. people like u are the reason that artists sell out. u act as if selling a lot of records makes what u do "quality". the Eastcoast is kickin our ass in sales.....does that mean all their artists are better? No. So dont pretend that LA has all this talent that the rest of the state doesnt, just because some LA artist have more marketing. Talkin about "we birth this bitch"....YOU didnt do shit lol. Ignorant muthafuckas with your mentality will keep the west from comin back to the forefront. You dont see that just creates an LA vs The Rest of Kali mindset. That shit is stupid. Last year ive heard so many people (even on this forum) say they heard more quality albums come out of the Bay and Dago then what came out of LA. Like i said....Quality, not just strong marketing schemes. Get your shit together before u come back and respond fool.
who the fuck does san diego have? mitchy & jayo? none of those dudes are going no where. Your biggest rap selling artist is Lil Rob whos majority of his fan base is in Los Angeles. And i don't dislike any certain region outside of L.A. i just can't stand muthafuckaz like u who always bitch "L.A. always hating on Diego, L.A. is always hating on the bay." Quit crying you little bitch. Nobody in L.A. even thinks about any other region. It comes down the jealousy. L.A. gets alot of attention & Diego & the bay don't so therefore u feel bitter inside towards L.A..
u got the mentality of a 10 year old. when the whole outside world has an opinion about your area....you blame everyone else and dont look at yourself. figure it out homie, none of us give a shit about LA. Thats fine if LA doesnt think about Dago or the Bay...but guess what? We dont really think about u either. And as i said, sales dont equal quality. Ja Rule was a platinum artist. What does that make him? Still wack. So im not talkin about record sales fool. And i was talkin about the attitude artists, record labels, and producers in LA have...not some loser like u. youre nobody homie, just some internet geek that thinks he got the scoop on somethin. Arent u the same idiot that thought he was bringin breaking news about the Lakers before the season...even though most of it didnt come true, and the ones that did was shit everyone else already knew. Your credibility is shot regardless.
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Well as I always say....it's funny when people from anywhere outside of L.A. - let it be NY, Atl, Miami, The Bay, Diego, etc. etc - say that L.A. doesn't like them for whatever reason...when the truth is, L.A. CATS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER!!!! I never really say L.A. as a whole having that elitist attitude as you say, and that sounds like how everybody seems to feel about New York rappers and people in general. But to me, L.A. is too many people for you to ever generalize like that. L.A.'s top artists and producers have that same attitde towards people who aren't big and aren't doin as much as they are in L.A., so of course they'll be the same way about people outside of L.A. you know. I feel that most situations that sounds like yours happen from people takin things and blowin them way outta proportion, and then wantin to use certain things as an excuse to generalize or have tension with somebody else when it really isn't neccessary. If you were in L.A., you would realize that there are people who are unestablished and may or many not have a bit of buzz, who still think they are better than EVERYBODY in L.A., and that most WEST COAST rappers suck...not just L.A., but anybody from the West, period. I know cats who are born n raised in L.A. who don't want to be "classified" as a west coast artist, and claim it's because they want to be universal to the nation, when the truth is that they are ashamed and feel that most west coast rappers are trash.
So for whatever reasons you feel like you do, I am sure you may have a bit of evidence to support your claim, but believe me, that's really not the way it is.
i dunno man. this is the way i look at it. when a wide range of different people from different areas who have NO tie to eachother all seem to have the same opinion about u...maybe u should look at yourself and not point at others (not talkin about YOU in particular, u get the idea tho). To be real I like LA, i stay on the grind back n forth from Dago to LA all the time. But i do see the attitude LA muthafuckas seem to have a lot. And its been evident just here in this post by that Addicted to Beef fool. They SERIOUSLY think that we, or the Bay, give a shit what goes on in LA. And really, we dont. We have our own issues, own problems, push our own music, work with our own artists, cept for the collabs with Bay Area cats. But none of us focus on LA like it seems a lot of u think. To me, its just another city. We dont hate yall, we dont love yall. Like i said, this is a big part of the reason that SD and the Bay tend to do alotta work together and LA isnt a part of most of it.
Well I donno, you'd have to give me examples of what goes on and what has happened to you, because I definitely never hear of anybody from L.A. knockin people in Diego. Most people I know don't know too much of anything about the San Diego scene, and it seemed like I was hearin a lot about SD rappers about a year or two ago, but I have barely been hearin anything lately. Most L.A. people who aren't rappers and all that usually like anybody who is dope or who is exposed to them. L.A. rappers as I said are cocky toward each other, and that carries to people outside of L.A. One reason nobody dope ever comes out of L.A. is because L.A. people tear them down before they even have a chance to blow. I know Game is a very questionable person overall, but it's sad how EVERYBODY was just waitin to bring him down, and how they used every single bit of info to tear down his character and kill his chances of blowin up or stayin around in the industry. They don't realize that people outside of L.A. who will only get to hear Game will say "damn, well if Game is fake and he's the best thing L.A. has, everybody else there must suck" or anything similar.
naw, knockin SD isnt what im sayin. its just the overall cocky attitude u talkin about. but 99% of muhafuckas ive dealt with from LA have that attitude, and its usually directed at anything that isnt FROM LA. The worst thing is, they got that attitude even in regards to other artist from the same state. I pretty much stick to westcoast shit myself. i hardly fuck with anything that aint from Kali. Theres a few artists out there ive listened to over the years that i felt, but for the most part...its all Westcoast. But i dont discriminate within Kali. San Diego, LA, The Bay...whatever. If its hot its hot. But what ive seen from LA is that if it aint from there...it aint shit. They think everybody looks up to em. That other areas are tryin to be LIKE them. Thats the shit thats silly. Like i said, i like LA too....its coo and all. But not one person i know thinks twice about LA. We on our own shit. And thats even more evident in Tha Bay. They on they own shit. Theres the same percentage of talent, and bullshit out there no matter what city u in. LA, The Bay, SD, wherever...u got 10% of the artists with skill....90% just hopin to make it on some bullshit.
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ok well Addicted 2 Beef, Where did it pop off then??
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wheres ur proof that the bay made em popular?
Im just saying that before Aftermath, The Game was in San Francisco working on his craft. Before he was in San Francisco, he didnt have anywhere to go. I just think he should give San Francisco and the Bay credit for giving the jump start to his carrer. Shit, maybe im wrong....Im just saying that people shouldnt forget all the things they went throught before making it to the top. I aint beefin homie, its all love.
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
youre an idiot homie. San Diego has a big independant scene. people like u are the reason that artists sell out. u act as if selling a lot of records makes what u do "quality". the Eastcoast is kickin our ass in sales.....does that mean all their artists are better? No. So dont pretend that LA has all this talent that the rest of the state doesnt, just because some LA artist have more marketing. Talkin about "we birth this bitch"....YOU didnt do shit lol. Ignorant muthafuckas with your mentality will keep the west from comin back to the forefront. You dont see that just creates an LA vs The Rest of Kali mindset. That shit is stupid. Last year ive heard so many people (even on this forum) say they heard more quality albums come out of the Bay and Dago then what came out of LA. Like i said....Quality, not just strong marketing schemes. Get your shit together before u come back and respond fool.
who the fuck does san diego have? mitchy & jayo? none of those dudes are going no where. Your biggest rap selling artist is Lil Rob whos majority of his fan base is in Los Angeles. And i don't dislike any certain region outside of L.A. i just can't stand muthafuckaz like u who always bitch "L.A. always hating on Diego, L.A. is always hating on the bay." Quit crying you little bitch. Nobody in L.A. even thinks about any other region. It comes down the jealousy. L.A. gets alot of attention & Diego & the bay don't so therefore u feel bitter inside towards L.A..
u got the mentality of a 10 year old. when the whole outside world has an opinion about your area....you blame everyone else and dont look at yourself. figure it out homie, none of us give a shit about LA. Thats fine if LA doesnt think about Dago or the Bay...but guess what? We dont really think about u either. And as i said, sales dont equal quality. Ja Rule was a platinum artist. What does that make him? Still wack. So im not talkin about record sales fool. And i was talkin about the attitude artists, record labels, and producers in LA have...not some loser like u. youre nobody homie, just some internet geek that thinks he got the scoop on somethin. Arent u the same idiot that thought he was bringin breaking news about the Lakers before the season...even though most of it didnt come true, and the ones that did was shit everyone else already knew. Your credibility is shot regardless.
i ain't reading that long shit bitch boy.
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Im just saying that before Aftermath, The Game was in San Francisco working on his craft. Before he was in San Francisco, he didnt have anywhere to go. I just think he should give San Francisco and the Bay credit for giving the jump start to his carrer. Shit, maybe im wrong....Im just saying that people shouldnt forget all the things they went throught before making it to the top. I aint beefin homie, its all love.
why does game have to thank frisco? what did frisco do for game? absolutly nothing. jt the bigga figga is the only person he should give thanks but even he fucked game over making money off of him releasing bull shit cds. jt doing the same thing suge knight is doing releasing bullshit music from previous artist.
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For whatever reasons, people from The Bay seem to be defensive as fuck about their music, and they seem to really feel that everybody in LA has somethin against them and that we hate on them but jock their style at the same time. I would like to say that people with this attitude are way off point and got it twisted as hell.
Im from San Diego, and believe me homie...it isnt just the Bay area that has that opinion about LA. Not so much the "jockin our style" shit...but the "hate". From what ive seen....rappers, producers, etc from LA seem to think theyre above everyone else in Kali. When the rest of the country thinks of Kali, they think...LA. And that shit i think has gone to a lotta peoples heads. Obviously LA is the biggest city out here, and will probably always get the most spotlight. But u got too many muthafuckas up there who think theyre on some professional shit while the rest of the state is just amateurs. They just need to understand that the rest of Kali doesnt look up to LA like they think we do. We do our own shit, regardless of what LA does. We dont see LA as the "make or break" for Kali. U got 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the country here with LA, San Diego and Frisco. Plus u got the whole rest of the Bay Area and Sac makin noise. I think the Bay Area, Sac, and Dago gotta respect for eachother...that LA isnt really a part of. U see a lot of our artist workin together with the Bay and Sac artists. More so even then any of us work with LA. Blame who u want for that, but i see it as LA who made it that way. They want the attention...but Kali as a whole aint goin nowhere unless u get a strong push from artists all over. If we dont support eachothers music, from North to South..how do u expect to have the rest of the country get behind it? Like E-40 said...."too many chiefs, and not enough Indians". Everybody wanna be the man.
everything runs thru L.A. in cali. thats the way it is. We birth this bitch called the westcoast. All The Top selling artist from Cali are from L.A. county. and u speaking madd bitter being from San Diego. San Diego hip hop doesnt exist unless u talking about that Mexican Cholo bullshit.
youre an idiot homie. San Diego has a big independant scene. people like u are the reason that artists sell out. u act as if selling a lot of records makes what u do "quality". the Eastcoast is kickin our ass in sales.....does that mean all their artists are better? No. So dont pretend that LA has all this talent that the rest of the state doesnt, just because some LA artist have more marketing. Talkin about "we birth this bitch"....YOU didnt do shit lol. Ignorant muthafuckas with your mentality will keep the west from comin back to the forefront. You dont see that just creates an LA vs The Rest of Kali mindset. That shit is stupid. Last year ive heard so many people (even on this forum) say they heard more quality albums come out of the Bay and Dago then what came out of LA. Like i said....Quality, not just strong marketing schemes. Get your shit together before u come back and respond fool.
who the fuck does san diego have? mitchy & jayo? none of those dudes are going no where. Your biggest rap selling artist is Lil Rob whos majority of his fan base is in Los Angeles. And i don't dislike any certain region outside of L.A. i just can't stand muthafuckaz like u who always bitch "L.A. always hating on Diego, L.A. is always hating on the bay." Quit crying you little bitch. Nobody in L.A. even thinks about any other region. It comes down the jealousy. L.A. gets alot of attention & Diego & the bay don't so therefore u feel bitter inside towards L.A..
u got the mentality of a 10 year old. when the whole outside world has an opinion about your area....you blame everyone else and dont look at yourself. figure it out homie, none of us give a shit about LA. Thats fine if LA doesnt think about Dago or the Bay...but guess what? We dont really think about u either. And as i said, sales dont equal quality. Ja Rule was a platinum artist. What does that make him? Still wack. So im not talkin about record sales fool. And i was talkin about the attitude artists, record labels, and producers in LA have...not some loser like u. youre nobody homie, just some internet geek that thinks he got the scoop on somethin. Arent u the same idiot that thought he was bringin breaking news about the Lakers before the season...even though most of it didnt come true, and the ones that did was shit everyone else already knew. Your credibility is shot regardless.
i ain't reading that long shit bitch boy.
need me to have someone read it for u? retarded muthafucka.
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Im just saying that before Aftermath, The Game was in San Francisco working on his craft. Before he was in San Francisco, he didnt have anywhere to go. I just think he should give San Francisco and the Bay credit for giving the jump start to his carrer. Shit, maybe im wrong....Im just saying that people shouldnt forget all the things they went throught before making it to the top. I aint beefin homie, its all love.
why does game have to thank frisco? what did frisco do for game? absolutly nothing. jt the bigga figga is the only person he should give thanks but even he fucked game over making money off of him releasing bull shit cds. jt doing the same thing suge knight is doing releasing bullshit music from previous artist.
alright homie, i dont want to argue. you win. i should have known by looking at your login name