West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 02, 2006, 11:44:48 PM
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West Coach Avery Johnson
PG Steve Nash
SG Kobe Bryant
C Yao Ming
PF Tim Duncan
SF Tracy McGrady
East Coach Flip Saunders
PG Allen Iverson
SG Dwayne Wade
C Shaquille O'neal
PF Jermaine O'neal (out with injury)
SF Lebron James
Rasheed should take Jermaine's spot for the East since he's out with the injury. The East lineup looks about right. But the West, i dunno lol. Yao was the leading vote-getter....wow. Duncans been slowed all year with that foot problem so his numbers havent been up to par. But if he's starting id rather them move him to the center spot and have Dirk play the PF. Dirk should definetely be starting IMO. Yao shouldnt even really be on the bench for the All Star game this year. How much has he even played?! Problem is, there arent that many great centers out there. Especially in the West. Mostly great forwards.
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
yeah like i said, Duncans been strugglin with that Plantar Fasciitis all season so his numbers have dipped. But its hard for players newer to the All Star spotlight to break through when other players have such a rep...or are popular among voters. Plus, the fact that the All Star game is in the MIDDLE of the season has something to do with it. It always takes at least one whole season off All Star performances (sometimes more, ask Billups) before people buy into u. Tons of players have All Star "like" streaks through a season. But to overtake a player who is considered one of the greatest ever already, is hard without at least a whole season of recognition.
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
one more thing, i dont see Elton as the "best in the west" this season. I see his numbers as being the best. Not really the same thing. U cant penalize players for having a great team around them and a lot of other players who can score. If the Clips had an amazing cast of players with a bunch of scoring potential around Brand. So his scoring average dipped, but his team had 10 more wins then they do now...would he be a worse player then he is now?
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Don't forget Parker impact to explain the drop in Duncan numbers too. Yep Nowitzki should start, Brand aswell. Will Rasheed start instead of going to the beach with his wife ? ;D
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
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can someone from the UK tell me when/where this is on? thanx
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Get over it E-crazy. My man Nowitzki is underappreciated as well. That's just what it is. Nobody who knows basketball thinks Yao should start every game from his rookie year until he retires, but he will. It's called fan votes. It's about who's established, popular and flashy.
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
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Get over it E-crazy. My man Nowitzki is underappreciated as well. That's just what it is. Nobody who knows basketball thinks Yao should start every game from his rookie year until he retires, but he will. It's called fan votes. It's about who's established, popular and flashy.
It's called China...
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the all star voting process should be a culmination of fan votes as well as votes from like the associated press or the nba coaches or personell or whatever cuz the fans never get it right and ppl who r deserving of getting an all star nod are left out, and when ppl look at players' accolades down the road the all star appearances can be misleading like the case wit yao whos going to prolly be in like 10 consecutive all star games by the time he retires.
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Get over it E-crazy. My man Nowitzki is underappreciated as well. That's just what it is. Nobody who knows basketball thinks Yao should start every game from his rookie year until he retires, but he will. It's called fan votes. It's about who's established, popular and flashy.
It's called China...
LOL!
That's all the starters are...the people who get the most publicity and who have been there before.
Jeff Van Gundy was quoted as saying something along the lines of no team under .500 should have a starter in the All-Star game. I believe that to be true. Yao and T-Mac, although good, shouldn't be starting if their team is under-achieving like it is.
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the all star voting process should be a culmination of fan votes as well as votes from like the associated press or the nba coaches or personell or whatever cuz the fans never get it right and ppl who r deserving of getting an all star nod are left out, and when ppl look at players' accolades down the road the all star appearances can be misleading like the case wit yao whos going to prolly be in like 10 consecutive all star games by the time he retires.
Fans only decide the starters...
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
Fuck that.....Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Jermaine Oneal..............go to NBA.com and look at the numbers man
Chris Bosh eff. is +24.52.......Jermaine Oneal is +22.06
So according to the numbers, Bosh is a better player. Oneal is always hurt anyway. I had him on my fantasy team last year and he was injured all the time, same story this year with him.
CB4, best PF in the east.
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
Fuck that.....Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Jermaine Oneal..............go to NBA.com and look at the numbers man
Chris Bosh eff. is +24.52.......Jermaine Oneal is +22.06
So according to the numbers, Bosh is a better player. Oneal is always hurt anyway. I had him on my fantasy team last year and he was injured all the time, same story this year with him.
CB4, best PF in the east.
In 07/08 Bosh will be one of the best PF in the West 8)
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
Fuck that.....Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Jermaine Oneal..............go to NBA.com and look at the numbers man
Chris Bosh eff. is +24.52.......Jermaine Oneal is +22.06
So according to the numbers, Bosh is a better player. Oneal is always hurt anyway. I had him on my fantasy team last year and he was injured all the time, same story this year with him.
CB4, best PF in the east.
LOL. You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Bosh at his best is currently better than J. O'Neal at his best...Come on man, it's just not like that...Yes, probably in 2-3 years Bosh will be better, but as of now, Jermaine simply has more to his name and is overall the better player...With that being said, it'll be fun watching him play somewhere where he actually can enjoy himself and has a chance to win. 8)
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Bosh's numbers will drop drastically after going west
that is taking into account that he is still young and would have bigger numbers in a couple years if he stayed in canada which he wont
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Bosh's numbers will drop drastically after going west
that is taking into account that he is still young and would have bigger numbers in a couple years if he stayed in canada which he wont
I don't think so. I think Bosh will be a 25-12 guy alongside Kobe...Add the fact that Andrew Bynum will be ready to play by then, and you have the new Laker dynasty...Buss has it planned, Lakers will be unfuckwithable.
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You gotta be really good to score 25 as a PF alongside a scorer like Kobe.. well Bosh is not ALL that. He's on a team with the second best player being Mike James, of course he can score there. But yea, with Bosh and a better Bynum Lakers could do damage in the playoffs. But he's no Garnett, Nowitzki, Duncan or Amare - not now, not ever.
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You gotta be really good to score 25 as a PF alongside a scorer like Kobe.. well Bosh is not ALL that. He's on a team with the second best player being Mike James, of course he can score there. But yea, with Bosh and a better Bynum Lakers could do damage in the playoffs. But he's no Garnett, Nowitzki, Duncan or Amare - not now, not ever.
Bosh can and WILL be on the level Garnett, Nowitzki, Duncan, and Amare are on when he signs with the Lakers. Hes gunna be huge, definitely an elite superstar in a big media-market like LA. Mark my words...It's not gunna be hard AT ALL for Bosh to get his points. Hell, Chris Mihm has been averaging 15 points a game this past month. That's WITH Kobe averaging 43. You'll all remember who said it first, when the Lakers are on top of the league shittin' on everyone...
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If I was you I'd chill out until I see dude on court in purple and gold at least. It could be quite awkward when Bosh signs with another team. Not to burst your bubble, but to kick in a little reality. Lakers are the most expansive team as far as I know. Bosh wants $. He's not a 40 year old who just wants a ring. He wants a big long-term contract. How's that gonna happen, I'd really like to know. Waive Odom anyone?
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
Fuck that.....Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Jermaine Oneal..............go to NBA.com and look at the numbers man
Chris Bosh eff. is +24.52.......Jermaine Oneal is +22.06
So according to the numbers, Bosh is a better player. Oneal is always hurt anyway. I had him on my fantasy team last year and he was injured all the time, same story this year with him.
CB4, best PF in the east.
LOL. You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Bosh at his best is currently better than J. O'Neal at his best...Come on man, it's just not like that...Yes, probably in 2-3 years Bosh will be better, but as of now, Jermaine simply has more to his name and is overall the better player...With that being said, it'll be fun watching him play somewhere where he actually can enjoy himself and has a chance to win. 8)
How is Bosh NOT better than Oneal? You said it yourself man, "AS OF NOW...." and yeah, as of now Bosh is the better player. Now and in 2-3 years to come. His numbers ARE better, and his game just looks better when you watch them both play. I watched them play head to head this year and Bosh was the better player beating Jermaine everytime off the dribble and taking it to him. That was a game that the Raptors actaully won. And you saying that Jermaine has more to his name means nothing thats the same thing as Yao getting voted starter over Brand and Dirk.....
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all you guys who say Bosh isnt as good as these other PF in the league really need to pay attention and actually watch him play. The guy is sick. Hes quicker and more agile than Duncan, Wallace, Oneal ect and has the passion and heart of KG. His mid range jumper is deadly for a guy whos 6'11 plus he can jump out the gym (check the sig).......You guys talk mad shit about Toronto but at the end of the day, theyre still better than the Knicks who spent like crazy to get the players they want.
The only real reason Bosh is underated is because he was drafted alongside LeBron, Carmelo, Wade and Darko and all the attention went to those guys. If Bosh had stayed in college and went pro the next year, he woulda been the #1 pick and all you fags would be talking about how good he is now. Im just glad hes a Raptor(for now) and the rest of you can wish you had him on your team because you know thats what you're missing :-*
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Brand should be starting..nuff said
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Bosh is the absolute shit however
JO > BOSH any day of the week
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Elton Brand SHOULD be Starting for the West....He Is THE BEST PF in the West this season, best numbers and he his carrying the clippers on his back right now, Brand>>>>Duncan
Fo sho! And Id much rather see KG, Brand and Dirk in the starting lineup than Duncan, Yao and TMac......
As for the East, you know Chris Bosh really DESERVES to be the starter, but I'll be happy enough with him coming off the bench. Bosh>>>Any PF in the east.
Well, currently, Chris Bosh is second best to Jermaine O'Neal...If Jermaine O'Neal doesn't start, Bosh should take his place...Rasheed Wallace is great, but Bosh should start over him...
Fuck that.....Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Jermaine Oneal..............go to NBA.com and look at the numbers man
Chris Bosh eff. is +24.52.......Jermaine Oneal is +22.06
So according to the numbers, Bosh is a better player. Oneal is always hurt anyway. I had him on my fantasy team last year and he was injured all the time, same story this year with him.
CB4, best PF in the east.
LOL. You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Bosh at his best is currently better than J. O'Neal at his best...Come on man, it's just not like that...Yes, probably in 2-3 years Bosh will be better, but as of now, Jermaine simply has more to his name and is overall the better player...With that being said, it'll be fun watching him play somewhere where he actually can enjoy himself and has a chance to win. 8)
How is Bosh NOT better than Oneal? You said it yourself man, "AS OF NOW...." and yeah, as of now Bosh is the better player. Now and in 2-3 years to come. His numbers ARE better, and his game just looks better when you watch them both play. I watched them play head to head this year and Bosh was the better player beating Jermaine everytime off the dribble and taking it to him. That was a game that the Raptors actaully won. And you saying that Jermaine has more to his name means nothing thats the same thing as Yao getting voted starter over Brand and Dirk.....
J. O'Neal is simply more polished, there's no argument. If the finals were tomorrow (and O'Neal was healthy), I'd pick O'Neal on my team over Bosh any day... he's more prepared. Anyone who wouldn't is crazy. Bosh is great, trust me, I'm excited over him too. But Jermaine O'Neal is simply an elite player, a star for the league...Jermaine O'Neal is currently better. In the near future, that probably wont be the case...