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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: KURUPTION-81 on February 07, 2006, 10:57:04 AM
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Detectives believe rapper Busta Rhymes was standing next to his bodyguard and saw all when a gunman opened fire outside a star-studded Brooklyn video shoot - killing the hired muscle, sources said yesterday.
The rapper apparently was trying to play peacemaker between two hip-hop factions moments before the bullets started flying, killing 29-year-old Israel Ramirez, who fell at his boss' feet, police sources said. Now cops want to reinterview the 33-year-old rapper, whose real name is Trevor Smith.
"We believe Busta Rhymes may have been on the street when the shooting took place," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said yesterday.
Ramirez's wife, Amelin Fernandez, told the Daily News that Rhymes described the shooting to her during a condolence call.
She said Rhymes told her he was flanked by Ramirez and another bodyguard, and that the shooter was aiming at someone behind the trio.
"It has nothing to do with you, just get out of the way!" the gunman told Ramirez just before opening fire, Fernandez, 26, said Rhymes told her.
Calls to Rhymes' lawyer were not returned yesterday.
In the hours after the shooting, Rhymes told cops he was inside the Greenpoint film studio when the gunfire erupted, sources said.
But now detectives want to question him about accounts placing him smack in the middle of the bloodshed - hoping he'll help them crack the case.
They also want to talk to rapper Tony Yayo and other members of hip-hop star 50 Cent's entourage, G-Unit. Investigators believe the gunman may have taken off in Yayo's car, sources said.
The gunfire exploded just before 12:30 a.m. Sunday, following a shoot that drew rap's elite - including DMX, Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliott and 50 Cent - for Rhymes' "Touch It (Remix)" video.
The beef appears to have started with a war of words inside the Kiss the Cactus studio on Green St. between two rival rap groups, as 500 extras and crew members were at work on the video, a police source said.
Yayo and other G-Unit members started insulting Rhymes' producer, Swizz Beatz, the new head of the Ruff Ryders label, whose artists also include DMX.
Studio security told the men to take their shouting outside, sparking one enraged self-proclaimed ex-con to declare, "Who the f--k are you to tell me to be quiet? I'm on parole, mother-----r!"
Rhymes followed the groups of arguing men outside, trying to calm flaring tempers, police sources said.
But as Rhymes tried to negotiate a peace, eight shots rang out. Ramirez, a father of three, was shot once through the chest.
Yayo, an ex-con whose real name is Marvin Bernard, sped off in his car with other members of 50 Cent's entourage, a police source said.
"No one has said Yayo is the shooter, but whoever did the shooting got into Tony Yayo's car with him and drove away," the source said.
In a cruel twist, Ramirez provided security to 50 Cent at one point in his career and considered G-Unit family, his widow said.
"When I met him, 50 Cent was in the hospital and he was the bodyguard at the time. So he had a relationship with the G-Unit family," Fernandez said.
Yayo denied any involvement in the shooting, his lawyer Scott Leemon said yesterday.
"He is not a suspect. They did not indicate he was a target at all," Leemon said, adding he told the Brooklyn district attorney's office Yayo would not voluntarily answer any police questions about the shooting.
That enraged Fernandez, who said that all the big-name rappers at the shoot - including Rhymes - should cooperate fully with cops. Detectives also want to talk with Swizz Beatz, whose real name is Kasseem Dean, sources said.
"I believe everybody who was at the scene should give their statement," Fernandez said.
Detectives, meanwhile, rejected speculation that Ramirez was targeted because he was guarding Rhymes' jewelry.
"It had nothing to do with jewelry. It had nothing to do with anything other than stupid stuff," a police source said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/389198p-330186c.html
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Tony Yayo :grumpy: this dude is so wack and silly, he might be a reason for this shooting
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I read about this just an hour ago. Fucked up that things like that happen.
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aww shiet 50 is about to tell on everyone ;D
why was yayo starting shiet with swizz?
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aww shiet 50 is about to tell on everyone ;D
why was yayo starting shiet with swizz?
coz G unit has beef with the Lox , part of the Ruff Ryders....
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damn, thats a good body guard if he'll take a bullet for you.
aww shiet 50 is about to tell on everyone ;D
why was yayo starting shiet with swizz?
coz G unit has beef with the Lox , part of the Ruff Ryders....
still thats fucked up, youd think they could keep their heads screwed on right for a couple hours at least. did they even finish shooting the video?
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That's a real messed up situation. Over some bullshit ::)
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damn, thats a good body guard if he'll take a bullet for you.
aww shiet 50 is about to tell on everyone ;D
why was yayo starting shiet with swizz?
coz G unit has beef with the Lox , part of the Ruff Ryders....
still thats fucked up, youd think they could keep their heads screwed on right for a couple hours at least. did they even finish shooting the video?
not only that, but it alsod eals with Cassidy
it goes back to wen 50 Cent dissed Cassidy's Hotel on a skit or sumthin by calling it trash, and Swizzie produced that track i believe
anywayz, Cassidy responded to 50 as well as G-Unit i believe in a different version of the video for B-Boy Stance as well a different version of Im a Hustla
Swizzie was interviewed by allhiphop.com on the subject; here is a part of that interview:
AllHipHop.com: Since we are on the topic, word is Cassidy is going to poke fun at 50 Cent in his new video?
Swizz Beatz: It is what it is. What ever he does, I support. He is an artist too. What, is Cassidy not supposed to say anything because that is 50? 50 poked fun at him, and did a whole skit on his mixtape talking about, "Aren't you tired of songs like this," with the "Hotel" song in the background. He did a whole fake award show about that s**t. He pokes fun about people all day. He had Ja Rule in the "Wanksta" video as a doll. Then you get on the radio and talk about "Cats want problems.” Cats aint' even thinking about him! Then I'm looking at the magazines, and I'm adding it all up. I could tell Cass to chill, but he has his manhood too. He has fans he has to answer to as well. It ain't no beef, or all of that, because beef is something we don't even talk about. Beef is something you handle, and its not in no songs, on the radio, or anything like that. It is what it is. It’s a lyrical thing, its competition, and Cassidy is ready for whatever. We came into the game like this, so why back down now? Why, just because he sold millions of records? We are not going to sit back and let n***as bully and throw cheap shots. Like come on, enough is enough already!
full article: http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1093
so i think the RR thing and the Cassidy thing both play factors in it...
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More info...
Authorities are investigating whether an argument between Swizz Beatz and G-Unit's Tony Yayo and Lloyd Banks may have sparked the deadly shooting at Busta Rhymes' Brooklyn, NY video shoot for the "Touch It" remix.
According to investigators, Israel Ramirez was shot and killed roughly an hour after a heated dispute between Swizz, who produced "Touch It," and the G-Unit members. Word is the three men proceeded to argue over who was getting to lay down vocals for the video. Banks is featured on one of the three remixes for the hit single. Tension reportedly rose as more members from various crews began crowding near the stage, prompting security to ask some to leave.
Police says Yayo began to trash talk about Swizz's artist Cassidy. Then, Banks, who was slated to shoot his part for the clip, refused to take the stage with Swizz nearby. Police says Yayo later stormed out of the set with his crew.
As tension remained high, an eyewitness overheard Busta approach Swizz, saying, "Yo, man, I got no problem with you. We're cool."
As SOHH previously reported, a source heard a man on the street tell a security guard he believes to have been Ramirez, "Yo, so-and-so's on his way over here, and some sh*t might go down."
Word is about 75 men stood in a circle on Green Street, where the Kiss The Cactus Production studio is located. As Swizz walked Busta back to his car, a confrontation erupted and shots were fired, one fatally wounding Ramirez.
"There was some pushing and shoving going on when an individual took out a gun and fired at least eight shots," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told reporters at Police Headquarters.
According to the Daily News, sources say the shooter was seen leaving in Yayo's vehicle. Scott Leemon, Yayo's attorney, faxed letters to the Brooklyn DA's office and NYPD detectives informing that the Queens rapper (born Marvin Bernard) would not speak to investigators about the murder. He has not been named as a suspect.
"I adamantly deny he had any involvement in the shooting of the security guard," Leemon told the New York Post. "Based on my advice, Mr. Bernard will not, and does not, speak to prosecuting authorities. He never has, and he doesn't plan on it."
Yayo is on federal probation for possession of a fraudulent passport. Commissioner Kelly also said the NYPD is looking for Busta and wants to question him. "We believe Busta Rhymes may have been on the street when the shooting took place," Kelly told reporters.
The tension between Swizz, Yayo and Banks may have started with their affiliates, Cassidy and 50 Cent. Early last year, Fif warned Cass to watch his mouth. The Philadelphia rapper retaliated by mocking 50 in his "B Boy Stance" video. 50 responded by mocking Cassidy in his "Piggy Bank" video.
According to the New York Post, Amelin Ramirez, Ramirez's widow, said Busta described the shooting during a condolence call. The Brooklyn rapper told Amelin Ramirez that the unidentified shooter yelled to her husband, "It has nothing to do with you, just get out of the way!" before firing several shots.
Word is Ramirez had been handling Bus' jewelry during the shoot. "Busta said he was standing right next to him when it happened," Amelin told the Post. Amelin said Busta didn't say anything regarding the shooter's identity.
Authorities were able to obtain footage from the video shoot and an MTV camera crew who documented the shoot during the day. Ironically, Ramirez had worked security for 50 previously. He was also a security guard at Club New York the night of Diddy and Shyne's infamous shootout.
lol they were trying to kill Swizz Beatz probably because he called Yayo...gar-bage ;D
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damn
how you gonna let off 8 shots and only hit with one of them?
seems to be alot of conflicting stories though, busta was first in the middle of it.. then he was at his car, then he was inside the studio.. etc
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yayo. he's trash, i saw him on mtv's show "the shop" and one of them niggas said his single was "hot" hahaha.
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I'd say I was in the car/studio too if I was Busta or just snitch and provide testimony in court :D
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yayo is gonna get fucked up. its only a matter of time. homie is runnin around tryna live up to 50s talk. he's lucky those bullets didnt hit him
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yayo. he's trash, i saw him on mtv's show "the shop" and one of them niggas said his single was "hot" hahaha.
LMAO! ahh man that show was hilarious. yayo was askin dude can he make a hit song. nigga can you?! your album barley reached gold and you had 50 cent on 2/3 singles
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Tony Mayo is going back to jail very soon, please believe it
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i was jus rollin thru town in my crown vic and 50 ran up to tell me everything
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Fuck Tony Yayo. If the shooter got in the car with him, he's going back to Jayo. And all this "I ain't talking shit" makes me sick. Dude is dead, unless you are going to take care of the murderer yourself, you better talk to the police. Bitches all concerned about their public image when some guy is dead. Bullshit.
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swizz beats is a garbage producer
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swizz beats is a garbage producer
Yayo+crew are garbage rappers but that aint got nothing to do with this shooting.
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Fuck Tony Yayo. If the shooter got in the car with him, he's going back to Jayo. And all this "I ain't talking shit" makes me sick. Dude is dead, unless you are going to take care of the murderer yourself, you better talk to the police. Bitches all concerned about their public image when some guy is dead. Bullshit.
well that only goes for when the dude that got popped was their homie. Busta and them don't have a reason to go and handle it. Busta prolly didn't know the bodyguard, while he is down with g-unit, so it definatly wouldn't be cool for him to snitch when the shooter's from g-unit's crew.
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for real this is y i dont understand y people bitch about the hip hop police, every other day im seeing a rapper linked with a criminal activity.Shooting, killings and rapes. Now im not saying all the rappers r guilty or that any of them r breaking the law but some seem to attract a lot of trouble. This is y they get watched plus they hang around with people who seem to think the answer to a problem is by violence.
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Fuck Tony Yayo. If the shooter got in the car with him, he's going back to Jayo. And all this "I ain't talking shit" makes me sick. Dude is dead, unless you are going to take care of the murderer yourself, you better talk to the police. Bitches all concerned about their public image when some guy is dead. Bullshit.
well that only goes for when the dude that got popped was their homie. Busta and them don't have a reason to go and handle it. Busta prolly didn't know the bodyguard, while he is down with g-unit, so it definatly wouldn't be cool for him to snitch when the shooter's from g-unit's crew.
it was Busta's bodyguard that got shot
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Following his bodyguard's killing, Busta Rhymes promised that justice will prevail but reportedly won't talk to cops.
According to police sources, authorities now believe that Israel Ramirez was killed when he grabbed the assailant's firearm outside Brooklyn, NY's Kiss the Cactus Production studio while Busta stood nearby. Claurice Lara, Ramirez's sister, says Bus told her he was present when the shooting took place.
"Busta said he was there when it happened," Lara told The Daily News. "He said he would do everything in his power to get justice."
Busta (born Trevor Smith) spoke to cops when the shooting occurred and told authorities he was inside when the shots were fired. According to The Daily News, sources say he has refused to talk since witnesses have placed him on the scene of the shooting.
"Busta Rhymes' form of justice apparently doesn't mean talking to cops," a police source told the Daily News.
Word is the rapper promised to pay for the funeral bills and said he would try to help provide for Ramirez's three children. He didn't give details on the shooting.
"I think he knew something that he wasn't able to tell me," Lara told The Daily News. "But that's up to him. That's his conscience. If he's a God man, like he swore to me he was on the phone, I think he'll do the right thing."
Cops are still hoping to talk with Tony Yayo, who reportedly came and drove off with the shooter. Yayo has retained an attorney and is tight-lipped on the incident.
Investigators were analyzing video footage taken inside the studio prior to the shooting and were looking to subpoena surveillance tapes that may have filmed the shooting. Police are also hoping fans and hangers-on who taped the video shoot will come forward with key footage.
According to The Daily News, Ramirez didn't carry a weapon. His family said he usually sported a bulletproof vest when working with Busta, but didn't wear one because he didn't expect violence at the video shoot.
Ramirez's funeral is slated to take place in New York's Church of Ascension. Busta is expected to attend.
Ramirez's killing apparently isn't the only incident Busta was involved in this past weekend. Reports are surfacing that Busta and his four bodyguards assaulted a photographer shortly after leaving a Manhattan restaurant this past Friday (February 3). Photographer Justin Baggoo claims the rapper quickly became hostile when he attempted to snap a photo.
"When [Busta] saw me, he rushed to me and one of the bodyguards came around me and grabbed me," Baggoo told The Daily News. "He grabbed me by the hand and they started to check me. [Busta] just came directly to me, and then he grabbed me by the hand and one of the bodyguards took the camera from me and it hit against a glass [wall] on the bank."
Baggoo claims Busta's bodyguard pushed his hand on the wall, causing his $10,000 digital camera to fall and crash on a ledge.
"[Busta] was telling me he did not want his picture to be taken," revealed Baggoo. "I was scared."
Baggoo also contends that one of the security guards twisted the lens and snatched the disk out of the camera before the group walked back to the SUV. The photographer says he then called 911 before one of the bodyguard returned, warning him not to start trouble by alerting the cops. Once he hung up, another guard gave him back the disk. Baggoo later told cops, "I was just to the point where I wanted them to leave me alone. His picture wasn't worth it."
A representative for Busta Rhymes had no comment.
Sohh.com
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Fuck Tony Yayo. If the shooter got in the car with him, he's going back to Jayo. And all this "I ain't talking shit" makes me sick. Dude is dead, unless you are going to take care of the murderer yourself, you better talk to the police. Bitches all concerned about their public image when some guy is dead. Bullshit.
well that only goes for when the dude that got popped was their homie. Busta and them don't have a reason to go and handle it. Busta prolly didn't know the bodyguard, while he is down with g-unit, so it definatly wouldn't be cool for him to snitch when the shooter's from g-unit's crew.
it was Busta's bodyguard that got shot
oh right I got that mixed up. well, apparently Busta's willing to solve it in another way, so if he does it's still right not to snitch.
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to be honest I don't think busta is that gangsta.
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i was jus rollin thru town in my crown vic and 50 ran up to tell me everything
lol
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for real this is y i dont understand y people bitch about the hip hop police, every other day im seeing a rapper linked with a criminal activity.Shooting, killings and rapes. Now im not saying all the rappers r guilty or that any of them r breaking the law but some seem to attract a lot of trouble. This is y they get watched plus they hang around with people who seem to think the answer to a problem is by violence.
buddy thats the gayest shit ive ever heard