Feb 19 The Lakers are "aggressively" pursuing a trade that would send forward Lamar Odom to the Magic for Francis in a multiplayer deal, Orlando Sentinel reports.
Recommendation: Other teams showing interest in Francis' services include the Rockets, Knicks, Nuggets and Sonics. Francis' fantasy value won't change much wherever he ends up.
ORLANDO - Orlando Magic assistant general manager Otis Smith said Saturday that while he's continuing trade talks involving point guard Steve Francis he's had no contact with the Los Angeles Lakers about a potential deal for Lamar Odom.
The magic are using the Lakers to get more from the team they're going to trade Francis to(The Nuggets)
Not that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive. Despite what you think, he is DEFINITELY not happy losing if it means scoring a lot. Why do you think he wanted Odom to be traded for Artest? He's dying to win... With that being said, the trade is a BS rumor and I would hate it...The Lakers already have Kobe, why would they give up their best rebounder, facilitator, playmaker, and passer for a Kobe wannabe?...No trade going down, especially not for Francis...PeACe
a Lakers fan told that faggot that the spurs are having kobe nightmares & he said "naw man,they're having spurs nightmares..They're not playing good"
Tone has been a dumbass hater sinse day one LOL...a Lakers fan told that faggot that the spurs are having kobe nightmares & he said "naw man,they're having spurs nightmares..They're not playing good"
LOL...If he really said that, that's funny, because he was dissing me when I said that the Lakers were playing shitty to close games in some other thread for not giving the opposing team props...
the Spurs were the better team for the first 44 minutes of every game, they controlled Shaq and the pace of the game was MUCH in their favor, they jus stopped making shots at the end...and killed themselves. The lakers made their shots at the end, so i gave them credit...but i felt the spurs lost because they beat themselves, not because of anything else. But, as much as that was true...it was even MORE true in this series. The Kings really dominated the flow of the game. They killed themselved at the line by missin free throws. Thas basically the story of the series (besides the bad officiating in game 6). The Lakers won, so their fans should be happy. I cant stand the lakers and thas known. But this isnt coming from the fact i dont like tha Lakers...they jus havent impressed me one bit this year. Last year they did, this year...theyre opponents have helped them more then theyve helped themselves...
But see, they wont have "kobe nightmares". Theyll have nightmares about THEMselves. Cus theyve let THEMSELVES down. They could easily have been up 3-1 in this series so far, but they jus havent finishes tha games off. The lakers havent really done anything special at tha end of tha games. They didnt play any different defense to shut tha spurs down, and offensively..yah tha lakers hit sum shots at tha end...but that wouldnt mean anything...if tha Spurs jus kept runnin tha same offense that they did...to put them up the rest of tha game. I give tha lakers credit, cus in these games they played till tha end...tha Spurs...decide not to...and its cost em.
Tone has been a dumbass hater sinse day one LOL...a Lakers fan told that faggot that the spurs are having kobe nightmares & he said "naw man,they're having spurs nightmares..They're not playing good"
LOL...If he really said that, that's funny, because he was dissing me when I said that the Lakers were playing shitty to close games in some other thread for not giving the opposing team props...Quotethe Spurs were the better team for the first 44 minutes of every game, they controlled Shaq and the pace of the game was MUCH in their favor, they jus stopped making shots at the end...and killed themselves. The lakers made their shots at the end, so i gave them credit...but i felt the spurs lost because they beat themselves, not because of anything else. But, as much as that was true...it was even MORE true in this series. The Kings really dominated the flow of the game. They killed themselved at the line by missin free throws. Thas basically the story of the series (besides the bad officiating in game 6). The Lakers won, so their fans should be happy. I cant stand the lakers and thas known. But this isnt coming from the fact i dont like tha Lakers...they jus havent impressed me one bit this year. Last year they did, this year...theyre opponents have helped them more then theyve helped themselves...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=4364.msg61720#msg61720 LOL @ that FAGGOT tONE HAHAQuoteBut see, they wont have "kobe nightmares". Theyll have nightmares about THEMselves. Cus theyve let THEMSELVES down. They could easily have been up 3-1 in this series so far, but they jus havent finishes tha games off. The lakers havent really done anything special at tha end of tha games. They didnt play any different defense to shut tha spurs down, and offensively..yah tha lakers hit sum shots at tha end...but that wouldnt mean anything...if tha Spurs jus kept runnin tha same offense that they did...to put them up the rest of tha game. I give tha lakers credit, cus in these games they played till tha end...tha Spurs...decide not to...and its cost em.
If they wanted to trade Odoms ass, which they should, why the fuck didn't they take the Artest offer? Francis is a great player, but not really what the Lakers need right now, cuz Smush Parker is decent enough. They really need a good power forward/center.
Not that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
lol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
^^ LOL @ this mad piece of shit..shut the fuck up!! you just mad your favorite team best player is a piece of shit ;Dawwww gettin all emotional and shit...did i hurt your feelings? you wanna talk about it? should i call dr. phil? why dont you lower my karma some more,it might make you feel better.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Lakers aren't winning a championship...get that outta your head
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Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
shut the fuck up..the kobe hating goes back to the championships years,,i read some your old post..you're joke...i know you mad that kobe owns the spurs but it's time to move on ,faggot....lol i love kicking this faggot around..fucking BANDWAGGON SPURS FAN ;D
you shouldn't even be talking,the knicks are a piece of shit franchise with no derection & no Superstar...(at least we have kobe),,you're the new clippers ;D..BTW,when was the last time the knicks won a championships? the 70's? lol
lol Kicking this faggot around? Are u 12 yet? Kobe owns the Spurs? Having some good games in the playoffs against us? Who cares? You guys suck right now, point blank. Suck it up little boy. Lately i havent been responding to u cus youre such an idiot, and everybody here (even the laker fans) think it. I mean how big of a dickrider do u have to be to put another mans name as your member name? Grow up little kid. Also, u call me bandwagon....and at the same time say youve been scrolling back through my old posts lol. read the posts back then, i was a Spurs fan then also. Ive been a Spurs fan longer then youve been alive. About 13-14 years now. Im sorry your team is struggling to hold onto the 8th seed in the west....hopefully theyll get it together and overtake the best team in LA now, The Clippers.
you shouldn't even be talking,the knicks are a piece of shit franchise with no derection & no Superstar...(at least we have kobe),,you're the new clippers ;D..BTW,when was the last time the knicks won a championships? the 70's? lol
Clippers 30-22
Lakers 27-26
God, youre stupid....
lol Kicking this faggot around? Are u 12 yet? Kobe owns the Spurs? Having some good games in the playoffs against us? Who cares? You guys suck right now, point blank. Suck it up little boy. Lately i havent been responding to u cus youre such an idiot, and everybody here (even the laker fans) think it. I mean how big of a dickrider do u have to be to put another mans name as your member name? Grow up little kid. Also, u call me bandwagon....and at the same time say youve been scrolling back through my old posts lol. read the posts back then, i was a Spurs fan then also. Ive been a Spurs fan longer then youve been alive. About 13-14 years now. Im sorry your team is struggling to hold onto the 8th seed in the west....hopefully theyll get it together and overtake the best team in LA now, The Clippers.
Im checkin mo 'chins' then the Chinese Customs"~TeeRay
"Like a Pimpin Drive-thru, man im 'servin you bitches'"~TeeRay
TeeRaySix9Teen
??? ??? ??? ??? ---faggot ass rapper ;D
nigga,you were 13 in 1999...im older then your monkey ass....have ever been to SA? your dumbass probably thinks SA in in florida,huh? fucking HS drop-out ;D..you're a joke..4 teams in Cali & you had to jump on the spurs BANDWAGGON when they won the championship in 99.
Even Lakers fans think i'm an idiot? prove it ,faggot
you're the one who needs to get off kobe's nuts..you've been hating since the longest...you think i hate on shaq,but i speak the truth about him..that's the difference between me and you,,i speak the truth,you're just a fucking hater...and lol at a person not even been allowed to be a fan of a player b/c then he's dick ryder..sorry for been a fan of aplayer that's brought 3 championships to L.A. and has entertain me and million of Lakers fans for the past 10 years.
you're an idiot, after reading this thread i think every1 will agree with me on that
first you say the knicks are the NEW clippers, and that means that they are as bad as the clippers used to be. you made a comparison between the old clippers and the current knicks team, you can't deny that just because you got clowned/owned/ethered/etc.
lol Kicking this faggot around? Are u 12 yet? Kobe owns the Spurs? Having some good games in the playoffs against us? Who cares? You guys suck right now, point blank. Suck it up little boy. Lately i havent been responding to u cus youre such an idiot, and everybody here (even the laker fans) think it. I mean how big of a dickrider do u have to be to put another mans name as your member name? Grow up little kid. Also, u call me bandwagon....and at the same time say youve been scrolling back through my old posts lol. read the posts back then, i was a Spurs fan then also. Ive been a Spurs fan longer then youve been alive. About 13-14 years now. Im sorry your team is struggling to hold onto the 8th seed in the west....hopefully theyll get it together and overtake the best team in LA now, The Clippers.
Im checkin mo 'chins' then the Chinese Customs"~TeeRay
"Like a Pimpin Drive-thru, man im 'servin you bitches'"~TeeRay
TeeRaySix9Teen
??? ??? ??? ??? ---faggot ass rapper ;D
nigga,you were 13 in 1999...im older then your monkey ass....have ever been to SA? your dumbass probably thinks SA in in florida,huh? fucking HS drop-out ;D..you're a joke..4 teams in Cali & you had to jump on the spurs BANDWAGGON when they won the championship in 99.
Even Lakers fans think i'm an idiot? prove it ,faggot
you're the one who needs to get off kobe's nuts..you've been hating since the longest...you think i hate on shaq,but i speak the truth about him..that's the difference between me and you,,i speak the truth,you're just a fucking hater...and lol at a person not even been allowed to be a fan of a player b/c then he's dick ryder..sorry for been a fan of aplayer that's brought 3 championships to L.A. and has entertain me and million of Lakers fans for the past 10 years.
lol i was already out of high school in 99. you still got 5 yrs to go. Just to prove youre an idiotic little kid...you decided to give me negative karma over and over again as if anyone above the age of 10 gives a shit about karma. What a loser lol Ive been a Spurs fan since Robinson first hit the league. Call that bandwagon if u want....but that was before you were born little boy. And yes, youre a dickrider. I used to act the way u do about my "sports heroes", but thats when i was in the 6th grade. Some people grow out of that shit...others, stay little kids. So u either ARE a little kid, or youre just the most immature muthafucka in the world. Everything from your member name to your sig screams "childish". Like i said, you are the big joke in the sports section. The only people on here who disagree with the shit i say about the Lakers....are Laker fans (in case youre too stupid to notice). But youre different. Even most of the Laker fans know how retarded you are.
lol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
you laker groupies are hilarious..if francis would ended up in L.A. yall would be jockin as we speak..actin like odom is a fuckin all-star...for real you and mr. i sucked kobe off 81 times should have a sitcom....straight comedylol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
LMAO! Are you out of your mind? I don't think there's any GM out there who would currently take Francis over Odom...How much basketball do you watch? LOL.
lmao...honestly,who in the fuck do you think you are? the NBA should snatch you up homie with powers like yours..lolKobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
You say you don't know, but I know. I KNOW for a fact...I see in Kobe the same fire and drive to win as I saw in Michael and Magic.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
LOL...You say you don't know, but I know. I KNOW for a fact...I see in Kobe the same fire and drive to win as I saw in Michael and Magic. I think you are nuts for trying to belittle the best player in the game today and you have yet to realize his greatness...
you laker groupies are hilarious..if francis would ended up in L.A. yall would be jockin as we speak..actin like odom is a fuckin all-star...for real you and mr. i sucked kobe off 81 times should have a sitcom....straight comedylol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
LMAO! Are you out of your mind? I don't think there's any GM out there who would currently take Francis over Odom...How much basketball do you watch? LOL.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
LOL...You say you don't know, but I know. I KNOW for a fact...I see in Kobe the same fire and drive to win as I saw in Michael and Magic. I think you are nuts for trying to belittle the best player in the game today and you have yet to realize his greatness...
lol@ you knowing for a fact. This is the difference between a dickrider and a normal person. Neither one of us knows him, yet you think you "know for a fact" how he thinks. This obsession u have is going way too far now NIK. You see in him as much as i see in him. Neither one of us can say we know for sure. U say u see the same drive that Mike and Magic had. I say he doesnt have the same drive to win as he does the drive to be in the spotlight. And im not belittling the best player in the game, im talkin about Kobe. Best scorer in the game, not best player. Two different things. Not sure if u knew this, but there are more aspects to basketball then scoring and highlights.
I never once said it was a good trade you fuckin hype,When you have Kobe you dont need another sg. I just think its funny how laker groupies build Odom up to something he's not.you laker groupies are hilarious..if francis would ended up in L.A. yall would be jockin as we speak..actin like odom is a fuckin all-star...for real you and mr. i sucked kobe off 81 times should have a sitcom....straight comedylol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
LMAO! Are you out of your mind? I don't think there's any GM out there who would currently take Francis over Odom...How much basketball do you watch? LOL.
Are you retarded? Yes, you are... :D
Every Laker fan in the world was against a Francis-for-Odom deal. Now think up something LOGICAL.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
LOL...You say you don't know, but I know. I KNOW for a fact...I see in Kobe the same fire and drive to win as I saw in Michael and Magic. I think you are nuts for trying to belittle the best player in the game today and you have yet to realize his greatness...
lol@ you knowing for a fact. This is the difference between a dickrider and a normal person. Neither one of us knows him, yet you think you "know for a fact" how he thinks. This obsession u have is going way too far now NIK. You see in him as much as i see in him. Neither one of us can say we know for sure. U say u see the same drive that Mike and Magic had. I say he doesnt have the same drive to win as he does the drive to be in the spotlight. And im not belittling the best player in the game, im talkin about Kobe. Best scorer in the game, not best player. Two different things. Not sure if u knew this, but there are more aspects to basketball then scoring and highlights.
LMAO. ToNe, I'm sorry, but you're a flat out hater man. I am a fan of the Lakers, I've seen Kobe play for 10 years straight, I grew up watching him, OF COURSE I know what his motivations for the team are...Nobody would ever be on Kobe's status if they weren't all about winning. That's what it takes to be considered one of the greatest, you HAVE to be a winner at heart...Why you're tryna discredit that and bring Kobe down in a "Francis for Odom" thread is beyond me. It's nothing more than the hatred you have for Kobe coming out...You know it, you know you get mad when you see him in commercials, on the sideline at the all-star game, Laker games, whatever it may be...you simply don't like the man, saying his name leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. If Kobe wasn't a Laker, I would probably never have been this much of a fan...If anything, call me a LAKER dick-rider, but, man, there's no denying it, you've shown to be nothing more than a KOBE hater...:nawty:
I never once said it was a good trade you fuckin hype,When you have Kobe you dont need another sg. I just think its funny how laker groupies build Odom up to something he's not.you laker groupies are hilarious..if francis would ended up in L.A. yall would be jockin as we speak..actin like odom is a fuckin all-star...for real you and mr. i sucked kobe off 81 times should have a sitcom....straight comedylol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
LMAO! Are you out of your mind? I don't think there's any GM out there who would currently take Francis over Odom...How much basketball do you watch? LOL.
Are you retarded? Yes, you are... :D
Every Laker fan in the world was against a Francis-for-Odom deal. Now think up something LOGICAL.
Kobe's happy being surrounded with players who have no confidence, and just like to pass him the ball lol
LMAO. You are an idiot...You really buy into all that hate-media crap? Kobe is happy with winning and winning only. Kobe is a winner at heart and very VERY competitive.
*yawn* and what exactly are YOU buying into with that comment? U obviously dont know the man. When i make an assumption about him based on his actions or attitude...im "buying into something". When u make the assumption that he ONLY wants to win, blah blah blah...then its a fact? LOL right.
Okay. Do you honestly think Kobe would rather average 35 points and not make the playoffs or average 25 points and win a championship? If you pick the first one, I don't even wanna have anything to do with any discussion you're in...That's how ridiculous you sound.
right now he's averaging 35 points a game and they are on the edge of making or missing the playoffs. if he was averaging 25 points/game and they were 4th or 5th in the west...then i would have no argument. as of now, my point is simply that neither one of us knows what he'd RATHER have. Laker fans think Kobe is all about the team, every other NBA fan thinks he's selfish.
LOL...You say you don't know, but I know. I KNOW for a fact...I see in Kobe the same fire and drive to win as I saw in Michael and Magic. I think you are nuts for trying to belittle the best player in the game today and you have yet to realize his greatness...
lol@ you knowing for a fact. This is the difference between a dickrider and a normal person. Neither one of us knows him, yet you think you "know for a fact" how he thinks. This obsession u have is going way too far now NIK. You see in him as much as i see in him. Neither one of us can say we know for sure. U say u see the same drive that Mike and Magic had. I say he doesnt have the same drive to win as he does the drive to be in the spotlight. And im not belittling the best player in the game, im talkin about Kobe. Best scorer in the game, not best player. Two different things. Not sure if u knew this, but there are more aspects to basketball then scoring and highlights.
LMAO. ToNe, I'm sorry, but you're a flat out hater man. I am a fan of the Lakers, I've seen Kobe play for 10 years straight, I grew up watching him, OF COURSE I know what his motivations for the team are...Nobody would ever be on Kobe's status if they weren't all about winning. That's what it takes to be considered one of the greatest, you HAVE to be a winner at heart...Why you're tryna discredit that and bring Kobe down in a "Francis for Odom" thread is beyond me. It's nothing more than the hatred you have for Kobe coming out...You know it, you know you get mad when you see him in commercials, on the sideline at the all-star game, Laker games, whatever it may be...you simply don't like the man, saying his name leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. If Kobe wasn't a Laker, I would probably never have been this much of a fan...If anything, call me a LAKER dick-rider, but, man, there's no denying it, you've shown to be nothing more than a KOBE hater...:nawty:
whats funny is how u can say you are a fan of the Lakers, a fan of Kobe, youve been watching him for 10 years...yet, you dont notice how that would make your opinions just a LITTLE bit biased? lol. How stupid is that? You think that everyone elses opinions about Kobe are based on hate. Yet you have people who are fans of all different teams, from all different parts of the country, who dont even know eachother, and still have the same opinion about Kobe. But you think we are all haters lol. At the same time, the only people on here siding with Kobe......Kobe fans. Do u see? I really cant spell it out any more simple NIK? A child could see what im talkin about. But i try to remember. Im arguing this simple point with the same guy that has an entire forum of different people thinking he's a liar and a fake, and yet he resorts to "youre all haters". you gotta Spurs fan, Clippers fan, Knicks fan, Mavs fan, etc...etc....all saying the same thing about Kobe. And the only ones saying "Kobe is perfect!!" are you guys....Kobe fans.
I never once said it was a good trade you fuckin hype,When you have Kobe you dont need another sg. I just think its funny how laker groupies build Odom up to something he's not.you laker groupies are hilarious..if francis would ended up in L.A. yall would be jockin as we speak..actin like odom is a fuckin all-star...for real you and mr. i sucked kobe off 81 times should have a sitcom....straight comedylol,whatever you say...its people like you that make everyone question why the fuck fans get to vote for the allstar squads. By the way,you should just tattoo kobe dick on your cheek as much as your on his nuts you fuckin groupie.lmaoNot that Odom is better than Francis, but this trade would suck cause Lakers' backcourt is already better than the bigger dudes, so the balance would be completely ass if they did that
True that. But Odom IS better than Francis.
WTF? Odom is better then Francis...Francis is a fucking bum these days,you dumbass
LMAO! Are you out of your mind? I don't think there's any GM out there who would currently take Francis over Odom...How much basketball do you watch? LOL.
Are you retarded? Yes, you are... :D
Every Laker fan in the world was against a Francis-for-Odom deal. Now think up something LOGICAL.
There is a lot of blind hating going on in this thread. To say that Kobe cares more about stats than winning is patently absurd.
There is a lot of blind hating going on in this thread. To say that Kobe cares more about stats than winning is patently absurd.
what u dont understand is, i say the things i say for a reason. the reason is, to prove how silly the Kobe dickriders sound. You guys can say that negative assumptions about Kobe are "blind hating". But dont see that positive assumptions from you guys are "blind dickriding". If you want to say that people cant make assumptions period, without knowing him...thats fine. I agree. But dont ONLY say that assumptions are wrong, when they come from non Kobe fans. None of us know him personally, onbviously. So in that case, all of our assumptions are wrong. If u guys just quit being so biased, none of these arguments would be happening.
There is a lot of blind hating going on in this thread. To say that Kobe cares more about stats than winning is patently absurd.
what u dont understand is, i say the things i say for a reason. the reason is, to prove how silly the Kobe dickriders sound. You guys can say that negative assumptions about Kobe are "blind hating". But dont see that positive assumptions from you guys are "blind dickriding". If you want to say that people cant make assumptions period, without knowing him...thats fine. I agree. But dont ONLY say that assumptions are wrong, when they come from non Kobe fans. None of us know him personally, onbviously. So in that case, all of our assumptions are wrong. If u guys just quit being so biased, none of these arguments would be happening.