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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Doggystylin on March 01, 2006, 08:34:32 PM
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man ive been bumpin dogg food the last few days, i cant believe people like daz and kurupt made that album, its far too complex of an album for them to create alone, there had to be people helping out, no way daz made those beats and kurupt wrote those lyrics, kurupt is seriously ripping the shit out of every damn beat, im listening to the lyrics and im just stunned like wtf thats so sick
the production is just amazing, I guess whats strange for me is, how can a nobody like Daz, who never really had any musical experience hes just some guy in Long Beach who happenns to be Snoop's cousin come out and make these really perfectly structured beats and just professional level production. No way he just came off the streets and made these beats, either he took some major lessons from Dre or there was definitley some ghost production going on
either way this is an amazing album, hadnt checked it in a while and now im like damn, i forgot all about this, i was too young to appreciate some of the things on here when i first got this album
BTW was the instrumental version of this album ever released? if not then what instrumentals of this album are available? I know Respect is out there, can someone hook that up?
oh yeah my copy of dogg food is years old and all scratched up can anyone hook up the new remastered edition?
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u're tripping, daz and kurupt were extremely dope hiphop artists, kurupt was in the top5 mc's back then... why u think it's impossible for them to have been that dope? just cause nowadays they be talking alot of shit and changed don't mean that they weren't capable of that.. that's why they have such a big following who's still fiending for more classic shit like that..
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Didn't Dre mix and master a lot of the beats?
Also, keep in mind that the album's best song ("New York, New York") was produced by DJ Pooh, not Daz.
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funny you posted this. i was listening to it yesterday and...its actually over rated. kurupt did his part. but daz, the guest, and some of the production is blahhh. still a great album, but not up to par with the other death row releases from around that time (chronic, doggystyle)
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kurupt i dont know what the deal is with him, maybe he has the same disease prodigy from mobb deep where you fall off the face of the earth skill wise. Nima you should ask kurupt one day lol. Jus be like straight up no bull shit, wtf happened to you. And Daz made those beats b/c dre mixed everything. Daz's best stuff was mixed by dre or quik, everything else is average crap.
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Nima is right. Back then, Dat Nigga Daz and Kurupt the Kingpin were the shit. Kurupt was ripping apart anything and anyone and there were very few rappers back then that could fuck with him. Daz on the production duplicated the Dogg Pound work on All Eyes on Me on tracks like Ambitions of a Ridah, Got My Mind Made Up. Remember Kurupt ripping apart "Got My Mind Made Up"? They were incredibly dope back then.
Now you look at them, Daz yells on every song and his production has fallen off horribly. Kurupt's voice has on these cracks in it from all the drugs he's done and he just spits gibberish. A lot has changed in over a decoade.
They were on such a high level back then, which makes their descent into wackness so difficult to comprehend.
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Daz's delivery was still hot, and I mean a lot of rap producers basically come outta "nowhere" and show to be musical geniuses. I don't know if Quik Batllecat or any of them received formal training either. And you can't even give all the credit to mixing...people think mixing really turns D beats to A beats. If the melody, drum pattern, and basic sounds aren't dope, it's no way the beat will end up bein dope no matter how good it's mixed.
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i just dont understand why daz gets some much hate with his more modern beats. As far as his personal albumns go Ithought the dog pound gangster lp was his best solo. The beats are layback and the whole album has a good feel about it. As far as production outside of that album, his had great beats like blaze it up, boyz in the hood, in my life, dpgc muzic, hittin donutz, im quiccer etc
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Definitely A Dope Album, I Actually Like It Better Than Doggystyle. But That's Just Me.
Death Row Was Running Shit Back In 95. Too Bad Daz & Kurupt Aren't On The Same Level As They Were Back In The "Good Ol' Days"
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Daz proved that he can still make tight ass "Dogg Food" esque beats last year by droppin "The Dogg Pound Gangsta LP." He's just gone somewhere else with his sound. Kurupt was probably really motivated to come up with the most clever lyrics back then and show that he was the shit, he's got nothing to prove now though.
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Yeah man, I was on a Dogg Food high for awhile too. I had Smooth on repeat like a muthafucka.
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And you can't even give all the credit to mixing...people think mixing really turns D beats to A beats. If the melody, drum pattern, and basic sounds aren't dope, it's no way the beat will end up bein dope no matter how good it's mixed.
true, but you gotta admit that when daz has his beats mixed by dre, theres something extra about em.
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What I liked about this album was its Universal side, I didnt really sound like a West Coast album..but the sound was fresh, and If im not mistaking Kurupt produced a track on there right?...and I didnt mind the universal sound of the record since Kurupt was from philly
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Yeah man, I was on a Dogg Food high for awhile too. I had Smooth on repeat like a muthafucka.
Smooth is the best track on there... the beat is sick!
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That cd is fuccin amazing Kurupt is on another level. Even Daz was rippin up the mic bacc then. even tho it sounded like Kurupt was writing most of it..
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i just popped this in the benz last week and I have been bumping it for abotu 2 weeks. I forgot how dope it is, the first 12 tracks or so are all 5/5 and anything that isnt is a 4/5 8)
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u're tripping, daz and kurupt were extremely dope hiphop artists, kurupt was in the top5 mc's back then... why u think it's impossible for them to have been that dope? just cause nowadays they be talking alot of shit and changed don't mean that they weren't capable of that.. that's why they have such a big following who's still fiending for more classic shit like that..
+1
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funny you posted this. i was listening to it yesterday and...its actually over rated. kurupt did his part. but daz, the guest, and some of the production is blahhh. still a great album, but not up to par with the other death row releases from around that time (chronic, doggystyle)
coming from somebody who listens to Ja Rule
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Yeah man, I was on a Dogg Food high for awhile too. I had Smooth on repeat like a muthafucka.
Smooth is the best track on there... the beat is sick!
agreed.
kurupt seemed hungry on dogg food, like someone else said there seemed alot of thought in what he was saying, and his flow was alot smoother than the modern-day Kurupt.
still, a great album to have.
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funny you posted this. i was listening to it yesterday and...its actually over rated. kurupt did his part. but daz, the guest, and some of the production is blahhh. still a great album, but not up to par with the other death row releases from around that time (chronic, doggystyle)
coming from somebody who listens to Ja Rule
hope off my dick. stop getting offended because i dont agree with you
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Kurupt was CRAZY back then... it still amazes me that almost nobody was willing to step to the DPG after NY NY. if he had released a solo album... damn
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Classic album, but i still think that Dre did some ghost production on it.
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funny you posted this. i was listening to it yesterday and...its actually over rated. kurupt did his part. but daz, the guest, and some of the production is blahhh. still a great album, but not up to par with the other death row releases from around that time (chronic, doggystyle)
coming from somebody who listens to Ja Rule
hope off my dick. stop getting offended because i dont agree with you
it's not even that, it's your faggot ass saying dumb shit like the album was "bleehhh" dumbass
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BTW was the instrumental version of this album ever released? if not then what instrumentals of this album are available? I know Respect is out there, can someone hook that up?
available official instrumentals:
- lets play house
- respect
- ny, ny
i also got "some bomb ass pussy" isntru somewhere. but i think its looped.
heres the respect cdq instrumental fo ya:
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2U2IIU12ENZTD2M79LSYWGKCSD
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Classic album, but i still think that Dre did some ghost production on it.
well its like this.... Dre mixed the whole album... and also. DJ Pooh produced the big songs off the album not Daz. Just like how DJ Pooh also produced the big songs off of Doggfather.
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Classic album, but i still think that Dre did some ghost production on it.
well its like this.... Dre mixed the whole album... and also. DJ Pooh produced the big songs off the album not Daz. Just like how DJ Pooh also produced the big songs off of Doggfather.
Yeah i know, but i have a feeling that Dre did do more than just mixing on this album, but ya never know...
np: Tha Dogg Pound - Respect
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Classic album, but i still think that Dre did some ghost production on it.
well its like this.... Dre mixed the whole album... and also. DJ Pooh produced the big songs off the album not Daz. Just like how DJ Pooh also produced the big songs off of Doggfather.
doggfather is another story cuz daz wasnt that involved. and i think u cant say just because dre mixed the entire thing (except the 2 pooh tracks)that daz dont deserve his credits. he did a great job. he had the right equipment and everything was cool around that time. just because pooh produced 2 dope tracks on the album didnt mean that the other tracks werent that tight. cmon we should also mention soopafly who did the keyboards... which is another big aspect in my eyes.
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yeah true.. and the fact that soopafly 'sold' daz beats under the table which daz claimed as his own... u never know whats really who's.. whether this was for dogg food.. or even daz's work on all eyez we dont know.. (soopa said this in an interview..not sure whether was with dubcnn or elsewhere..)
also.. aint it weird that Dre was doing voiceovers etc on the Dogg Food album.. the kind he'd only ever done on his own stuff before (and since..)
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Yep, Daz did a great job and so did Soopafly 8)
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also.. aint it weird that Dre was doing voiceovers etc on the Dogg Food album.. the kind he'd only ever done on his own stuff before (and since..)
Yep, he always does those "intros" on beats he produced...
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itīs possible that Dre actually did some tracks but gave someone else credit so they didnīt have to pay Ruthless but itīs all speculation. but iīve never really felt Dogg Food as much as most Dubcc members, i think itīs better then average but far from classic. Kurupt was pretty dope back then but he dropped a lot gibberish back in the days aswell.
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also.. aint it weird that Dre was doing voiceovers etc on the Dogg Food album.. the kind he'd only ever done on his own stuff before (and since..)
i see it like this: they were all in the studio, on the board.... maybe daz did the beats in the untrimmed size and then dre put his hands on, then soopafly did something,... i would agree that the final product was not only dazs work but maybe dre said: "ey yo daz, u can get the production credit fo the whole album but please dont mention anymore that u helped me with the chronic and doggystyle"....lol
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people lately have been saying its more like Daz wanted no Dre on the album.. which is why they passed on Dre's Can't C Us beat
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people lately have been saying its more like Daz wanted no Dre on the album.. which is why they passed on Dre's Can't C Us beat
yea but isnt it contradictorily then that daz let dre mix the cuts....?? who knows. i think daz just wanted the main spot on that disc.
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Didn't Dre still Exec. Produce the album? I think that's what the original CD says.
Did DJ Pooh do "Smooth"? It sounds EXACTLY like his style on "Whoop Whoop", Doggfather, and even "Groupie Love"
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funny you posted this. i was listening to it yesterday and...its actually over rated. kurupt did his part. but daz, the guest, and some of the production is blahhh. still a great album, but not up to par with the other death row releases from around that time (chronic, doggystyle)
coming from somebody who listens to Ja Rule
hope off my dick. stop getting offended because i dont agree with you
it's not even that, it's your faggot ass saying dumb shit like the album was "bleehhh" dumbass
you're proving my point exactly BITCH. i dont share your opinion on the album so you're trying to discredit my opinion by throwing in the fact that i listen to an artist that most people dont like. so what? i like ja rule...okay. that has nothing to do with my opinion on the album. i said the album is great, but not as great as people around here say it is. this forum is notorious for overhyping certain artist/albums just cuz theyre from the west. now go study some more of my post till you have a valid arguement.
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And you can't even give all the credit to mixing...people think mixing really turns D beats to A beats. If the melody, drum pattern, and basic sounds aren't dope, it's no way the beat will end up bein dope no matter how good it's mixed.
true, but you gotta admit that when daz has his beats mixed by dre, theres something extra about em.
Since the first time I heard Dogg Food I was thinking the same.Cause if we have to compare Dogg Food beats to Retaliation, Revenge And Get Back(for example) beats, there's a very big difference.At least that's how I feel.
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as far as production, Dre mixed the entire album
Dre is a huge reason why the album is so good
ever wonder why Daz has never dropped beat anywhere close to that level since dogg food?
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prescisely...
Do ya'll remember what mike dean said when him n daz fell out.. something about not being able to do shit without someone like Dre or him holding his hand..
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ever wonder why Daz has never dropped beat anywhere close to that level since dogg food?
all eyez on me lp, rr&gb lp, raw lp?????? have u heard those?
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major props to ogsuesone for the beat, ive been lookin for this forever
and this is exactly what i was saying, i think dre had a lot more to do with this album that we thought, now daz might have done this work but if he did, dre was with him every step of the way
and like it was said before, mixing can effect only so much
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As far as kurupt spittin the lyrics he spat on Dogg Food, I definitely believe he wrote them. He was that sick back then. As far as the beats goes...I know this will upset some ppl...and I do believe daz did most of the production, but he definitely had some help...as far as Dre mixing the whole album...it doesn't change a D beat to an A beat, but at the same time I still believe it makes a big difference. Despite how tight the production was on Dogg Food and AEOM...it would not have been the same without Dre/Quik mixing those albums. There IS a difference between the standard mixing and Dre/Quik's mixng...just listen to how perfect the beats were structured...Dre's style without a doubt...
Also I believe Dre did some ghost producing...Respect and Let's Play House sounds EXACTLY like a Dre beat back then...I been thinkin that since my ears heard those beats...
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I'm sure Dre had more influence on Dogg Food than Daz on The Chronic ::)
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Didn't Dre still Exec. Produce the album? I think that's what the original CD says.
Did DJ Pooh do "Smooth"? It sounds EXACTLY like his style on "Whoop Whoop", Doggfather, and even "Groupie Love"
no Dre's title for the album was "Director of Music" or some weird shit like dat.....I'm pretty sure Dre ddint do any beats on the album....sound nothing like Dre's beats at the time...dre didnt produce cuz Daz was convinced that Dre would "steal" credit. He only mixed to meet with Interscope's deal that Dre had 2 involved in every album
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I always thought the "Let's Play House" beat sounded like Dre's shit from the post-Doggystyle to early-Aftermath days.
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I dont think I can add anything to this thread that already hasn't been said. This is the type of album that will never get old for me. The type of shit to bump and make ya ass feel good. I know times change and you gotta move on, but both Daz n Kurupt should stick to whatever the fuck they were thinkin while doin this shit and make similar albums.
WiCKZ
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Classic album, but i still think that Dre did some ghost production on it.
well its like this.... Dre mixed the whole album... and also. DJ Pooh produced the big songs off the album not Daz. Just like how DJ Pooh also produced the big songs off of Doggfather.
daz mayh have had help as far as production but kurupt killed it with the lyrics all on his own...not many cud fuk with kurupt at that time!
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Yeah man, I was on a Dogg Food high for awhile too. I had Smooth on repeat like a muthafucka.
Smooth is the best track on there... the beat is sick!
rupt ripped that shit,snoop to.
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as far as production, Dre mixed the entire album
Dre is a huge reason why the album is so good
ever wonder why Daz has never dropped beat anywhere close to that level since dogg food?
to me retaliation revenge and get back beats are as good as dogg food
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Kurupt was CRAZY back then... it still amazes me that almost nobody was willing to step to the DPG after NY NY. if he had released a solo album... damn
Mobb Deep and Capone and Noreaga responded with LA LA. It wasn't that good.
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NY NY (the song) is hardly a diss lol....ther givin props to NY
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NY NY (the song) is hardly a diss lol....ther givin props to NY
"Motherfuck your whole jurisdiction, react this fact not fiction"
"Take ten steps and turn to shoot the first nigga smirkin
Give a fuck, what's your name, what you claim
Or why you came, motherfucker don't explain
Simply, don't tempt me, cause I'm simply
Layin hoes lifes empty, the invicible mc"
"Gimme a couple g's, for every mc, I knocked to his knees
Verbally useless, oh you got the juice? I squeeze you juiceless"
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well i look like a dick now dont i lol
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well i look like a dick now dont i lol
If I remember correctly, They were originally gonna give them props on the track but after that weak ass crowd in the Source Awards when DeathRow performed they decided to diss NY. I don't know if this is 100% true or not but that's what I've heard.
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As far as I can remember NY NY was a diss shit i mean why in the video would niggas be stompin the shit out of all the major buildings in NY lol? also why would Mobb Deep try to come with a reply that I might add was wackkkkk as fuck compared to NY NY??? Also if u didn't know Dogg Pound camper they was staying in during the filming of the video NY NY got shot the fuck up and they shot back.....Anyways back to the topin The Dogg Food album is so fuckin hard man i play that shit to this day and never get tired of it, also i just bought the 2pac Live At the House of Blues on PSP that shit is gangsta Dogg Pound was rippin shit back then, they had the strippers with the phat asses lol on stage......Point blank Chronic=Classic, Doggystyle=Classic, All Eyes=Classic and even though Dogg Food didn't get promoted like the rest Dogg Food=Classic.......
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Dogg Food is easily one of the 5 best releases from the westcoast.Back then Kurupt was the illest muthafucker in the game..
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Didn't Dre still Exec. Produce the album? I think that's what the original CD says.
Did DJ Pooh do "Smooth"? It sounds EXACTLY like his style on "Whoop Whoop", Doggfather, and even "Groupie Love"
Yeah he Produced and mixed this Tracc as well....
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yall all seem to forget that Warren G also came out just as hard on the production tip too, on his first album ..It was somethin about that whole scene and vibe..They were surrounded by top notch players in the game, they were havin all the time they wanted in top notch studios...that was a golden era...thats when it was still fun to them, and they all felt like they had somtehin to prove..they were all so hungry...
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this quetions is for those who have the original cd and not a copy or somethin.
in the pics of the cd book, you can see a pic where seems to be the entire dpg family. i know that snoop is in the middle. but who are the others?
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this quetions is for those who have the original cd and not a copy or somethin.
in the pics of the cd book, you can see a pic where seems to be the entire dpg family. i know that snoop is in the middle. but who are the others?
I think one of them is The Lady Of Rage, haven't checked the picture for a loong time though, i was wonderin that same shit too...
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ye, snoop and rage are easy to find. but who are the others? is warren g there?