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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Suga Foot on March 21, 2006, 04:23:37 PM
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it just launched a few hours ago. From what I read in the paper it looks pretty shitty.
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MTV is shitty.
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it just launched a few hours ago. From what I read in the paper it looks pretty shitty.
lol yeah i read this in the province. it doesnt sound as if its going to be getting any good programs.
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The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.
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The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.
i agree... its a total joke.
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The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.
CRTC is crazy. They feel so alieanated whenever American culture tries to come to Canada. But that's Canada for you, which I'm not going to get into right now.
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I think the 33% rule is good for radio. Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.
Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.
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Let me agree, fuck the CRTC. If people don't want to listen to Canadian music then they won't, and the market will control things rather than forcing it down our throats.
Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?
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I think the 33% rule is good for radio. Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.
Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.
Can you explain to me the 33% thing?
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Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?
Most the shit on MTV isn't music anyways. :laugh:
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I think the 33% rule is good for radio. Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.
Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.
Can you explain to me the 33% thing?
my bad it's 35%
Commercial radio stations must ensure that 35% of the musical selections they air between 6AM and 6PM, Monday through Friday, are Canadian.
so basically 1 out of every 3 songs has to be performed, produced, or written by a canadian.
Why is it important?
* Culturally, Canadian programs and music give voice to Canadians, to their talent and their shared experiences.
* Economically, it means jobs for thousands of Canadians from creation to production and distribution on the airwaves.
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Adon;
How about instead of setting up this board to make sure Canadian music gets played they use that money to create platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Then we wouldn't need a law to keep these things on the air, because the quality would be good enough that Canadians would want to hear and watch it. Putting music back in the school system in a major way would be a start. Hiring professional industry types and real musicians and TV writers/directors to come to schools. Set up a real Canadian concert venues that can be broadcasted on a real Canadian music channel and focus on talent rather than the second rate artists signed by the labels with power. And for God sakes put some money into Canadian TV production because every time I see a Canadian TV show it looks like it was made in a high school. I realize they want it to look distinct from American TV but when distinct means it looks like it's shot with a camcorder and edited on a Mac that is't a good thing. THere is so much to this country and the industry here is so shit that it'll never get properly exposed, unless some Canadian makes it huge in Hollywood as a director and producer and makes it a point focus on Canadian stuff as well as hte American stuff. Most Canadians that make it big aren't even known as Canadians. You tell the average American that Jim Carrey, Pam Anderson, or billionair director/producer Ivan Reitman are Canadian and they'll say something like "really?".
The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.
CRTC is crazy. They feel so alieanated whenever American culture tries to come to Canada. But that's Canada for you, which I'm not going to get into right now.
Why alienated?
And it is a law that stations have to have about 35% of all you show on a Canadian Radio or TV Network to be Canadian content. Funny little tidbit. The CRTC called Bryan Adams not Canadian enough because his music was often co-written with Mutt Lange. So even though he was a Canadian who lived in Canada and paid Canadian taxes they didn't count him.
What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.
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Let me agree, fuck the CRTC. If people don't want to listen to Canadian music then they won't, and the market will control things rather than forcing it down our throats.
Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?
Right now it's licensed as a talk show network so the majority of the programming will be talk related. It's funny to even think about that. They are trying to get a new license, but it doesn't matter since most of the MTV stuff isn't music anyway.
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What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.
Thanks for explaing the radio thing. I know all about the tv feeds, cause when I lived in Canada 50% of my life was TV. I never listened to the radio there, (there was no hip hop played on any of the stations) and I only knew a little about from grade 9 history.
O and Canada is not a capatlistic country. I guess offically it is, but look at all the shit the government regulates, compared to America is pratically is a socialist counrty. And I agree with you about creating platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Or else what's the point? You're just shoving Canadian culture down people's throat.
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What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.
Thanks for explaing the radio thing. I know all about the tv feeds, cause when I lived in Canada 50% of my life was TV. I never listened to the radio there, (there was no hip hop played on any of the stations) and I only knew a little about from grade 9 history.
O and Canada is not a capatlistic country. I guess offically it is, but look at all the shit the government regulates, compared to America is pratically is a socialist counrty. And I agree with you about creating platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Or else what's the point? You're just shoving Canadian culture down people's throat.
Where and how long did you live in Canada? In Scarborough (East Toronto) I don't think there was ever anything in te states that wasn't here. I didn't listen to the radio and we didn't have a hip hop station but bootleg tapes and mixtapes were always running rampant where I was.
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^^ I spent the majority of my days in Winnipeg, Mb (about 11 years). I moved from Winnipeg to the states in 2002. And lived about 2 years in a small town in saskatchewan before moving to Mb. Of course in Toronto you can get bootlegs and mixtapes, but between in the prairie provinces you probably wont find shit. I was too young at the time for bootlegs and mixtapes anyway. But a year ago my frined told me Winnipeg got it's first hip hop/r&b station.
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Adon;
How about instead of setting up this board to make sure Canadian music gets played they use that money to create platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Then we wouldn't need a law to keep these things on the air, because the quality would be good enough that Canadians would want to hear and watch it. Putting music back in the school system in a major way would be a start. Hiring professional industry types and real musicians and TV writers/directors to come to schools. Set up a real Canadian concert venues that can be broadcasted on a real Canadian music channel and focus on talent rather than the second rate artists signed by the labels with power. And for God sakes put some money into Canadian TV production because every time I see a Canadian TV show it looks like it was made in a high school. I realize they want it to look distinct from American TV but when distinct means it looks like it's shot with a camcorder and edited on a Mac that is't a good thing. THere is so much to this country and the industry here is so shit that it'll never get properly exposed, unless some Canadian makes it huge in Hollywood as a director and producer and makes it a point focus on Canadian stuff as well as hte American stuff. Most Canadians that make it big aren't even known as Canadians. You tell the average American that Jim Carrey, Pam Anderson, or billionair director/producer Ivan Reitman are Canadian and they'll say something like "really?".
I agree with putting more funding into schools for music & art or whatever. David Foster actually does quite a bit in Vancouver to help out the industry. But honestly, without the 35% Canadian content rule, I wouldn't know half of the artists in Vancouver that I do. And look at Videofact, they'll give money to any Toronto rapper for a music video.
Canadian TV is just frustrating as hell. CBC films everything in the East just to keep people employed. Vancouver is the 3rd largest center for film in North America. Look at Lions Gate films, why not use them to film Canadian stuff? We have studios all over the place, we have the people and the abilities to make good film. But barely any Canadian TV shows are made here.
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Well if they put money into the industry then they won't have any left over to put into the CRTC.
^^ I spent the majority of my days in Winnipeg, Mb (about 11 years). I moved from Winnipeg to the states in 2002. And lived about 2 years in a small town in saskatchewan before moving to Mb. Of course in Toronto you can get bootlegs and mixtapes, but between in the prairie provinces you probably wont find shit. I was too young at the time for bootlegs and mixtapes anyway. But a year ago my frined told me Winnipeg got it's first hip hop/r&b station.
Toronto didn't even get their first hip hop station until a couple years ago. So Winnepeg isn't far behind. But I'm going to assume the black population here is a lot bigger than in any other city in Canada and that's where a lot of the hip hop would come in from. Living in Toronto I never really got the Canadian experience. Toronto's just a less violent big American city. How's the saying go? There's Canada and then there is Toronto. What a pit this place is though. (Toronto, not Canada)
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I think if Canadian artists actually put out good music there would be no need to for the CRTC to force us to have 1 out of ever 3 songs performed by a Canadian. Its not our fault that these artists are putting out garbage so why should we have to listen to them there are some exceptions though like K-OS put out some good tracks last year and even a few years ago Choclair and all those guys were putting out some good music, but nowadays whenever you put on The Beat 94.5 all you hear is garbage like Shawn Desmon and Keshia Chante.
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I think if Canadian artists actually put out good music there would be no need to for the CRTC to force us to have 1 out of ever 3 songs performed by a Canadian. Its not our fault that these artists are putting out garbage so why should we have to listen to them there are some exceptions though like K-OS put out some good tracks last year and even a few years ago Choclair and all those guys were putting out some good music, but nowadays whenever you put on The Beat 94.5 all you hear is garbage like Shawn Desmon and Keshia Chante.
The problem is that Canadian music businesses don't have the resources to heavly advertise any artists like American companies do. So the CRTC comes up with stupid ways to try and give local artists a chance.
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I think if Canadian artists actually put out good music there would be no need to for the CRTC to force us to have 1 out of ever 3 songs performed by a Canadian. Its not our fault that these artists are putting out garbage so why should we have to listen to them there are some exceptions though like K-OS put out some good tracks last year and even a few years ago Choclair and all those guys were putting out some good music, but nowadays whenever you put on The Beat 94.5 all you hear is garbage like Shawn Desmon and Keshia Chante.
The problem is that Canadian music businesses don't have the resources to heavly advertise any artists like American companies do. So the CRTC comes up with stupid ways to try and give local artists a chance.
Yeah, I completely agree with that but i think they are better off giving the money to the Canadian Music Industry than the CRTC. That way they clould use it to promote our artists and that could help solve the true problem which is that Canadians don't really look at our artists the same way they do Americans because Canadian artists aren't making it big time, they can't because their labels don't have the money to promote them or to help make good music( good producers). If they are making good music then people will want to listen and therefore they don't need the CRTC to force us to hear them.
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The problem is that Canadian artists dont have talent :laugh:
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Yeah, I completely agree with that but i think they are better off giving the money to the Canadian Music Industry than the CRTC. That way they clould use it to promote our artists and that could help solve the true problem which is that Canadians don't really look at our artists the same way they do Americans because Canadian artists aren't making it big time, they can't because their labels don't have the money to promote them or to help make good music( good producers). If they are making good music then people will want to listen and therefore they don't need the CRTC to force us to hear them.
They do give money to the industry. It's not hard to get funding for your label from the government.
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Yeah, I completely agree with that but i think they are better off giving the money to the Canadian Music Industry than the CRTC. That way they clould use it to promote our artists and that could help solve the true problem which is that Canadians don't really look at our artists the same way they do Americans because Canadian artists aren't making it big time, they can't because their labels don't have the money to promote them or to help make good music( good producers). If they are making good music then people will want to listen and therefore they don't need the CRTC to force us to hear them.
They do give money to the industry. It's not hard to get funding for your label from the government.
They also give money to athletes but Canadian athletics are a joke. I think we are all in agreement that Canadian music and TV would be better off if the government put all the money that goes to the CRTC into youth programs endorsing the arts rather than policies enforcing the arts.
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i dont really even watch tv anymore these dayz just sports n maybe tha occational show n thats about it
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you guys wanna know something really fucking funny and ironic (to me at least...)
the only country in europe that pulls BS stuff like this is CRTC is doing.. is france!!!
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^^Call me an idiot or unaware of dry british humor, but I don't see how that is ironic. ???
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you guys wanna know something really fucking funny and ironic (to me at least...)
the only country in europe that pulls BS stuff like this is CRTC is doing.. is france!!!
^^Call me an idiot or unaware of dry british humor, but I don't see how that is ironic. ???
same here ???
Yeah, I completely agree with that but i think they are better off giving the money to the Canadian Music Industry than the CRTC. That way they clould use it to promote our artists and that could help solve the true problem which is that Canadians don't really look at our artists the same way they do Americans because Canadian artists aren't making it big time, they can't because their labels don't have the money to promote them or to help make good music( good producers). If they are making good music then people will want to listen and therefore they don't need the CRTC to force us to hear them.
They do give money to the industry. It's not hard to get funding for your label from the government.
They also give money to athletes but Canadian athletics are a joke. I think we are all in agreement that Canadian music and TV would be better off if the government put all the money that goes to the CRTC into youth programs endorsing the arts rather than policies enforcing the arts.
Real Talk
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I could be wrong, but i'm guessing he's likening it in reference to the french-canadian population?
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it just launched a few hours ago. From what I read in the paper it looks pretty shitty.
its canadian mtv lol
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Do you have BET?
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Do you have BET?
HAHAHA That's a good one. :laugh:
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Do you have BET?
Yes.
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Do you have BET?
Yes.
On cable?
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I could be wrong, but i'm guessing he's likening it in reference to the french-canadian population?
u spot on!
:)
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Do you have BET?
Yes.
On cable?
Yes.
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Do you have BET?
Yes.
On cable?
Yes.
Where do you live?
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Do you have BET?
Yes.
On cable?
Yes.
Where do you live?
Ontario.
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I could be wrong, but i'm guessing he's likening it in reference to the french-canadian population?
u spot on!
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That's not ironic. :(
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not ironic at all that the french are likely involved in both? 8) lol
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not ironic at all that the french are likely involved in both? 8) lol
The French arn't directly involved in the CRTC because it dosen't have to do with them specifically as it has to do with Canada as a whole. And it is in no way shape or form "ironic." I think you got the wrong word there. Maye coincidence, intresting, or direct link would be better.