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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: NobodyButMe on February 24, 2002, 05:23:59 PM
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yeah i said it before and i'll say it again. his new shit is ridiculous. i can't believe that this is the same motherfucker that came out with 'doggystyle'. i remember about 4 or 5 months ago, i posted something about snoop doin too much and most of ya'll told me that i was full of shit. i like readin and seeing that people are finally seeing the like that snoop is absolute shit compared to back in the day. i don't even know if i'd buy anything new he comes out with cuz every album just seems to suck more than the last one. ya'll can hate on me cuz i'm hatin on snoop, but that motherfucker has fallin way the fuck off......
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If changing is fallin off then go listen to Krs one and Lil romeo, they sayin tru
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If changing is fallin off then go listen to Krs one and Lil romeo, they sayin tru
i agree completely. hey jtplatnum u can hate all u want but how dumb can u get by sayin he's been gettin worse every album? thats the stupidest thing i ever heard. it's more like he's gettin closer and closer to his doggystyle form every album he releases. so just wait till he drops his new one than i gurantee that u'll be ridin snoop again just like all tha other haters.
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yeah i said it before and i'll say it again. his new shit is ridiculous. i can't believe that this is the same motherfucker that came out with 'doggystyle'. i remember about 4 or 5 months ago, i posted something about snoop doin too much and most of ya'll told me that i was full of shit. i like readin and seeing that people are finally seeing the like that snoop is absolute shit compared to back in the day. i don't even know if i'd buy anything new he comes out with cuz every album just seems to suck more than the last one. ya'll can hate on me cuz i'm hatin on snoop, but that motherfucker has fallin way the fuck off......
Its true.
SOme of you guys are so blindly in love with Snoop, his image, character & beats that you forget that the only thing this guy actually had great was his voice, flow & rhymes, & all that went down the pooper when he release Tha Doggfather. Sure, that album was a decent good cd but only coz of the beats, his flow & voice had changed from hard, fast & vicious, to soft, slow & laid back.
It got worse after Tha Doggfather, but just after the release of Tha Last Meal he had a few good performances that seemed like maybe the old Snoop from 1992-1995 was comin back.
It SEEMED the keyword there, coz i just downloaded that new shit "Fallin" from his new album, & man, he is right by naming it that coz his flow is fallin faster & landing hard just like droppin an egg from 3 story building
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Snoop will never go back to his deathrow days.
Neither will Dr.Dre
Neither will Kurupt
Neither will Daz
My Point ???
They all change cause thats what we do after time :P
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I think Snoop is improving all the time... sadly he is struck by the "izzle" phenomeon...
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SOme of you guys are so blindly in love with Snoop, his image, character & beats...
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Who else is dreading Slikk coming into this thread? I can see it now:
"hell naw Snoopizzle is tight fashizzle dont hate :P"
Ugh.
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Yeah Snoop is struck by a phenomeon! Fashizzle!
Like mellowman said about what dre has told dj quik n shiet; that is if youre a way too talented artist/producer you can't do the same thing your whole career, so... of course Snoop is being inspired to do somethings different. This is just to grow as an artist and inovate. Big Snoop cant be an "deathrow inmate"-sounding Doggy Dogg all his life! Damn, he was around 20 when released "Doggystyle" so nearly 10 years after he's changed. No-fuckin-doubt!!
Snoop is just productive but he can still flow and make nice tracks! Alot better than the mass of the other Westcoast artists! Snoop aint finished... Just wait!
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I think Snoop is improving all the time... sadly he is struck by the "izzle" phenomeon...
I really hope your talking about lyrics cause if you think his flow is improving i'll do a Bustah Rhymes & BREAK YO' NECK NIGGA!
Seriously, Snoop in terms of lyrics & versitillity has improved, but still no where near to be considered a good lyrisct. His main strength was flow & voice, he was once the best in those categories or nearly the best at least, but then for some reason he flushed them in the toliet in 1996.
Proof, listen to Tha Shiznit then listen to I Can't Swim. The defense rests its case & asks for a dissmissile
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Damn some of you need to get off a snoops nuts an stop frontin like he is tha shit. He has changed for tha worse an shows no signs of goin back to makin good music or givin a fuck about tha quality of his music. An dont give me no bull shit how it was 10 years since doggystyle, ofcourse snoop would be different. He aint even on tha same page as doggystyle, hell he aint even in tha same book as doggystyle snoop. Look at Nas, its been 8 years since illmatic, he came back an dropped stillmatic. He didnt use no times is changin bullshit, he knew he needed to do suptin different an he did. I cant wait for tha usually comebacks from snoop dickriders. Tha usual, snoop aint comin out wit no more classic cuz to make a classic it has to be groundbreakin. Yet so many rappers have made classics that werent groundbreaking. Snoop has yet to make an album half as good as doggystyle, shame, cuz if he actually applied himself, didnt whore himself to every rapper in tha game, keep it strictly DPG, snoop could drop a great album but it will never happen
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I think snoop can go back but hes just too lazy
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Damn some of you need to get off a snoops nuts an stop frontin like he is tha shit. He has changed for tha worse an shows no signs of goin back to makin good music or givin a fuck about tha quality of his music. An dont give me no bull shit how it was 10 years since doggystyle, ofcourse snoop would be different. He aint even on tha same page as doggystyle, hell he aint even in tha same book as doggystyle snoop. Look at Nas, its been 8 years since illmatic, he came back an dropped stillmatic. He didnt use no times is changin bullshit, he knew he needed to do suptin different an he did. I cant wait for tha usually comebacks from snoop dickriders. Tha usual, snoop aint comin out wit no more classic cuz to make a classic it has to be groundbreakin. Yet so many rappers have made classics that werent groundbreaking. Snoop has yet to make an album half as good as doggystyle, shame, cuz if he actually applied himself, didnt whore himself to every rapper in tha game, keep it strictly DPG, snoop could drop a great album but it will never happen
I agree. See, nothing wrong with someone doing something different, as long as its good. Look at Nas as this guy said.
But Snoop changed for the worst
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Fuck all you Snoop haters... maybe he ain't the world's best lyricist... but he certainly ain't wack... check out "Lay Low" and "Y'all Gone Miss Me" for an example of good lyricism.
He also got one of the best voices of hip-hop.
Just in case y'all wouldn't recognize, I quoted some shit:
[Snoop Dogg]
Hmm, lay low, nobody move until I say so
Limo tint rollin deep like the President
See I don't go to clubs, I never chase a bitch (beitch)
I'm here to bang that gangsta shit to the apocalypse
We call it stress, some of y'all call it chocolate
Return of the Top Dogg, and ain't no stoppin this
Whatever the case, I ain't tryin to catch it
Lay low, blow big dope, and slang records
Unseen but well heard, do not disturb
The only reason you alive cause I ain't sent the word
I flip, faster than birds, Snoop Dogg will emerge
from the smoke and go loc, you shouldn't provoke
I bring the worst from the L.B.C.
Smash motherfuckers thinkin they gon' smash on me
Snoop and Dre give a FUCK about what y'all say
From the "World's Most Dangerous Group" - N.W.A
Ay, ay
^Peep that, his verse from Lay Low. Snoop is a legend that cannot be faded.
I think he'll elevate his lyrics further on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss.
Peace.
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i dont see how suddenly suddenly when ya defend someone u suddenly on his nut and u are a hardcore fan, thas bare bullshit, man i aint the biggest snoop fan but he aint wack..........infact he aint nowhere near wack and i dunno about what the fucks happenin with his proirity album but his mca one will be good i believe and one thing for sure is that his gettin alot better lately and he cant just stick on doggystyle forever. like nas said, his always movin on jus cuz he drops summat weak everyone ready to jump on his nuts about this n that. man let the nigga b
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F....u and go post at the In'sync board muthaphucca....lol
this is strictly westside on mind....fuccc your opinion
no muvaphuka...fuck u....everyone on this board is entitled to their fuckin opinion right? so if fuck anyone...fuck u!
i feel him on what he is sayin...snoop can't compare to how he was back in the day...but fuck it aint as though tha last meal was really bad...but if the next album is missin westcoast boys and is full of ja rule and jay-z n shit then i can agree on everythin he says!!
and daz, kurupt, dre, snoop neva gonna be the same as they were on death row...cos those times are ova...as in the g-funk era in my OPINION...as much as i love g-funk i have to say that!!
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:D
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F....u and go post at the In'sync board muthaphucca....lol
this is strictly westside on mind....fuccc your opinion
who is this fuckin guy? eat a dick man. this board is for opinions period, just like any other board on the internet. i stated it before and i'll state it again. why don't you say something meaningful instead of just hatin? i mean, at least you could refute my opinion and tell me yours in order to try and change my mind, but no, you gotta write some dumb ass shit that has no place being on a board. you're just postin just to post and get your numbers up. i posted my topic to get some replies, not stupid little childish shit like "go on the in'sync board (sic)....fucc your opinon"
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Well... I still love his dick up my ass
-Big BpG
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^^ LMAO at Bpg! At least you admit it:)
I'm probably guilty of defending snoop too much, but I can't lie and say I think he is anywhere close to what he sounded like in 92-95. I think the biggest problem is that snoop is growing up. That same shit he was poppin off back then, isn't important to him anymore. I think he has done well with what he has to rhyme about now. Just not as interesting stuff as back then.
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One of the reason that Snoop Does'nt sound the same its because he aint got nuthin to prove anymore,and now its all about the money.Also he will NEVER do an album like Doggystyle cause he way of thinkin aint the same..(Doggystyle was about criminal fact and killah) and because of the trial he had to change is lirics .And most of the people are still waiting for that come bacc but thats not gonna happen Snoop Doggy Dogg : the Gangster is dead...so now people gotta face its all about business thats why y'all gotta accept Bigg Snoop Dogg The Pimp The business man no matter what .He is still dope he shocked the world 10 years ago and still doin it now.And for the fact that he aint got no Daz or Kurupt on his album..Y'all cant judge him like that cause y'all dont know whats goin on in the studio.
And The Best is still to come ..so fucc the haters
Dogghouse In ya Mouth
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dammit where is slickk,i always love watchin him try to defend snoop
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One of the reason that Snoop Does'nt sound the same its because he aint got nuthin to prove anymore,and now its all about the money.Also he will NEVER do an album like Doggystyle cause he way of thinkin aint the same..(Doggystyle was about criminal fact and killah) and because of the trial he had to change is lirics .And most of the people are still waiting for that come bacc but thats not gonna happen Snoop Doggy Dogg : the Gangster is dead...so now people gotta face its all about business thats why y'all gotta accept Bigg Snoop Dogg The Pimp The business man no matter what .He is still dope he shocked the world 10 years ago and still doin it now.And for the fact that he aint got no Daz or Kurupt on his album..Y'all cant judge him like that cause y'all dont know whats goin on in the studio.
And The Best is still to come ..so fucc the haters
Dogghouse In ya Mouth
thats what people were saying about Nas before stillmatic....look at him now although stillmatic is not on the level of Illmatic its still classic to me
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The only problem I have with Snoop now is his flow. Fuck. His flow ain't impressing me no more. His lyrics are nice but I have a problem with him making these songs like "Loosen Control" just to compete with all this other commercial shit. The song was nice but that ain't him. That was just like Mobb Deep making "Hey Luv". Nas changed his whole shit because Nastradamus was the laughing stock of Hip Hop and he only went gold with that, I think? But he done saw what he was doing wrong and dropped a classic. Snoop still goes double platinum each time so he ain't really worried about losing fans which will affect his music.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Who else is dreading Slikk coming into this thread? I can see it now:
"hell naw Snoopizzle is tight fashizzle dont hate :P"
Ugh.
nigga fuck you, i wouldn't even post but u made me too
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dammit where is slickk,i always love watchin him try to defend snoop
lol fuck you too
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I want reply this motherfucka that much cause there’s too many haters here....
Just one hint... in the real world, snoop is seen as a legendary rapper who will always improve, maybe not the goat but one of the greatest, even if ya'll hate, most of ya'll talks hit against him cause ya'll don't want to get diss by the others who call us, fans, dickrider because we like snoop's new style of music, but I’m a let ya'll fighting for bullshits like this cause I can spend like 90 years trying to explain u the facts but ya'll still come with so opposite shits … ::)
P.S ya’ll can hate however u want, I won’t reply anymore
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Every rapper who has Snoop's legendary status is gonna get hated on...Fans gotta understand that Snoop makes music cause he wants to not to please his fans...He ain't gonna go back to Doggystyle cause that's not who Snoop is as a person these days...A true fan understands that...Look at Jigga, Eminem and Ja Rule's first albums and look at their last releases...Every rapper changes...That's life...
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I want reply this motherfucka that much cause there’s too many haters here....
Just one hint... in the real world, snoop is seen as a legendary rapper who will always improve, maybe not the goat but one of the greatest, even if ya'll hate, most of ya'll talks hit against him cause ya'll don't want to get diss by the others who call us, fans, dickrider because we like snoop's new style of music, but I’m a let ya'll fighting for bullshits like this cause I can spend like 90 years trying to explain u the facts but ya'll still come with so opposite shits … ::)
P.S ya’ll can hate however u want, I won’t reply anymore
if it wasnt for doggystyle, snoop would be shit an no1 would give a fuck about him, an he be lucky to go platnium, tha reason he goes 2x platnium is b/c so many people want to see him put out an album half as close as doggystyle, for some reason an this includes myself, we still have faith that snoop could change for tha better. But listen to his music now, u can hear it in his voice, he is unmotivated, it sounds like he honestly dont care
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if it wasnt for doggystyle, snoop would be shit an no1 would give a fuck about him, an he be lucky to go platnium, tha reason he goes 2x platnium is b/c so many people want to see him put out an album half as close as doggystyle, for some reason an this includes myself, we still have faith that snoop could change for tha better. But listen to his music now, u can hear it in his voice, he is unmotivated, it sounds like he honestly dont care
Why do you buy Jay-Z (reasonable doubt)
Why do you buy Nas (illmatic)
You can say that about most rappers today... all rappers have their shining album... if you don't feel Snoop now, that's cool, but me personally, I find him to better than he was back then... and I'm not about to repeat myself
-Big BpG
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Why do you buy Jay-Z (reasonable doubt)
Why do you buy Nas (illmatic)
You can say that about most rappers today... all rappers have their shining album... if you don't feel Snoop now, that's cool, but me personally, I find him to better than he was back then... and I'm not about to repeat myself
-Big BpG
Thats What im talkin about
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I want reply this motherfucka that much cause there’s too many haters here....
Just one hint... in the real world, snoop is seen as a legendary rapper who will always improve, maybe not the goat but one of the greatest, even if ya'll hate, most of ya'll talks hit against him cause ya'll don't want to get diss by the others who call us, fans, dickrider because we like snoop's new style of music, but I’m a let ya'll fighting for bullshits like this cause I can spend like 90 years trying to explain u the facts but ya'll still come with so opposite shits … ::)
P.S ya’ll can hate however u want, I won’t reply anymore
all i see snoop doin is puttin out shit for music,ive yet to see any improvement,and please explain these "facts" to me
fact #1-slickk is a male groupie
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Why do you buy Jay-Z (reasonable doubt)
Why do you buy Nas (illmatic)
You can say that about most rappers today... all rappers have their shining album... if you don't feel Snoop now, that's cool, but me personally, I find him to better than he was back then... and I'm not about to repeat myself
-Big BpG
dawm, thank you
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fact #1-slickk is a male groupie
NIgga plEEZZZZ ::)
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snoop is original and an OG leader of the DPG and always will be. there will never be another snoop just like there will never be another pac.
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there will never be another snoop just like there will never be another pac.
true
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Why do you buy Jay-Z (reasonable doubt)
Why do you buy Nas (illmatic)
You can say that about most rappers today... all rappers have their shining album... if you don't feel Snoop now, that's cool, but me personally, I find him to better than he was back then... and I'm not about to repeat myself
-Big BpG
i dont listen to jay-z an secondly, even though nas dropped a classic, he came back on his next album an dropped a great album in it was written. An personally i think snoop has yet to drop an album since doggystyle that can be compared to it was written
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snoop is original and an OG leader of the DPG and always will be. there will never be another snoop just like there will never be another pac.
Tru That Son
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oh, and another thing, ya'll said that snoop is wack, he suck dick ,whatever,u blast him righ!!
but one minute after ya'll sayin , oh did u see that new shining star, he look just like snoop, not only by his apparence but always by his music, ya'll can't deny it, ya say this fo kock and e white , now whut
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i dont listen to jay-z an secondly, even though nas dropped a classic, he came back on his next album an dropped a great album in it was written. An personally i think snoop has yet to drop an album since doggystyle that can be compared to it was written
nigga that's straight hatin, you'z a HATER, nuff saids, i don't fuck with haters
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nigga that's straight hatin, you'z a HATER, nuff saids, i don't fuck with haters
Im a hater, ight, thats why tha chronic is my favorite album of all time an snoop is all over it an doggystyle is my second favorite album of all-time. Thats why i still buy snoops shit. I aint a snoop hater, i am a snoop fan, i have stressed this before, i am a snoop fan, it just that snoop pisses me off b/c he drop much better shit. And maybe sayin snoop doesnt have an album half as good as it was written is overexgarated, but he doesnt have an album post doggystyle as good as it was written
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your not a real fan, u just fallowing the wave, and if chronic is your favorite album , dre should be your favorite artist, not pac , why do u luv pac, cause of all eyes on me , etc... thats what i'm sayin , if people luv shit , u luv shit but if people hate shit u hate shit, now people be hating on snoop for some reasons and u hate to
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your not a real fan, u just fallowing the wave, and if chronic is your favorite album , dre should be your favorite artist, not pac , why do u luv pac, cause of all eyes on me , etc... thats what i'm sayin , if people luv shit , u luv shit but if people hate shit u hate shit, now people be hating on snoop for some reasons and u hate to
im following a wave, LoL, i have felt this way about snoop for along time. hell recently a lot of snoop hatin has occured in tha past week or. Look back about a month an a half ago. I made a topic about tha most overatted in rap, an u know who i said, jigga an snoop. An i have felt that way about snoop for a while. An by tha way, tha was tha only thing i understood in that post. Tha rest sounded like u smoked some crack
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im following a wave, LoL, i have felt this way about snoop for along time. hell recently a lot of snoop hatin has occured in tha past week or. Look back about a month an a half ago. I made a topic about tha most overatted in rap, an u know who i said, jigga an snoop. An i have felt that way about snoop for a while. An by tha way, tha was tha only thing i understood in that post. Tha rest sounded like u smoked some crack
check i'm stopin right there, kool u win ,i lose now peace
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damn slickk you aint a real snoop fan,u gave up that easy?? you dont deserve to listen to his trash any more
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damn slickk you aint a real snoop fan,u gave up that easy?? you dont deserve to listen to his trash any more
mind your business man, i ain't beefin no more, its pointless ::)
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i think he was good on the chronic and doggystyle because he just had to
then when he went to no limit
he just wanted to see what would happen is terms of rap
and now that he has his own label
and more money will come to him i think he will make better albums
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i dont listen to jay-z an secondly, even though nas dropped a classic, he came back on his next album an dropped a great album in it was written. An personally i think snoop has yet to drop an album since doggystyle that can be compared to it was written
You can't even compare Doggystyle to It Was Written... but looks at it like this. You can't compare It Was Written to Illmatic, and you can't compare Tha Doggfather to Doggystyle... both rappers fell on their second releases and could never match their previous releases, but many claim Tha Doggfather a real good album compared to Doggystyle. Stillmatic is considered a classic for the content on the album, but you can't even compare it to Illmatic. Last Meal was Snoop's best effort since Doggystyle, but you can't compare the two either... besides, the point you were making is that Snoop isn't shit without doggystyle... just like NAS wouldn't be shit without Illmatic.
-Big BpG
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Slick, how old are you, 13, 14, 15, 12?
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37
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oh sorry , my age ..... 24
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Yeah Snoop is struck by a phenomeon! Fashizzle!
Like mellowman said about what dre has told dj quik n shiet; that is if youre a way too talented artist/producer you can't do the same thing your whole career, so... of course Snoop is being inspired to do somethings different. This is just to grow as an artist and inovate. Big Snoop cant be an "deathrow inmate"-sounding Doggy Dogg all his life! Damn, he was around 20 when released "Doggystyle" so nearly 10 years after he's changed. No-fuckin-doubt!!
Snoop is just productive but he can still flow and make nice tracks! Alot better than the mass of the other Westcoast artists! Snoop aint finished... Just wait!
i mean we can all understand change, if he wanna change his subject matter for the better, change his beats for the better.
but some of yall really take for granted how tight he came on doggystyle. Its just not right how saucy he came. i mean we can make a case that he had one of the siccest flow and delivery 's of all time.
but the thing is snoop has a natural laid back voice, so its almost twice as bad when he dont come correct
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aye, yall got to realize there are 2 types of snoop fans
1. loyal, but expect the best from snoop. are not blind to when he does or does not rhyme at his potential. still support snoop
2. loyal, fail to realize snoop is not at his potential 75 percent of the time. hate on folks who mention this. still support snoop
thats real talk!!
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aye, yall got to realize there are 2 types of snoop fans
1. loyal, but expect the best from snoop. are not blind to when he does or does not rhyme at his potential. still support snoop
2. loyal, fail to realize snoop is not at his potential 75 percent of the time. hate on folks who mention this. still support snoop
thats real talk!!
Real talk. I'm a #1.