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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Crenshaw_blvd on February 20, 2002, 04:48:06 PM
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Pac and Biggie was best friends. Around the time Pac got shot the first time, he believed Biggie put a hit on em, but more then likely it was probably some of the people Biggie rolled with who didn't like Pac. When he was getting blasted on, Pac pulled out his strap, with the safety off, and blasted HIMSELF in the nuts. "Motherfucka didn't even know how to work a gun!"
Pac joined the Bloods around the time he got killed, and basically gathered many new enemies. Ice-T told us about how he was in an argument with Pac about 3 weeks before he died, in which he asked him "why the fuck did he join a gang as a millionaire?", "Don't you know they are just using you for your money?" He also touched on 'Hit Em Up' which Pac showed him before it's release, Ice-T said, "fuck that, if you really a gangsta and wanna hit em up, then lets catch a flight to New York right now, I'll go with you, and we'll pump that bitch, quit being a bitch with that record shit." "But Pac was rollin' with the Outlaws and didn't wanna show out."
Around the time of the Tyson fight, Puffy had hired some crips (can't remember what set) as security at the fight, and thats when someone got punked for their 'Death Row' chain. Anyways that caused some mad friction and since Tupac was rollin with Suge, and they was bloods basically a gang war went down, and Tupac was killed, TUPAC IS DEAD, no conspiracies about it. People in the car? Suge-driver, Tupac-passenger front, One of the old Outlaws (can't remember his name), and Too Short who was directly behind PAC. Too Short called Ice-T (the first person he called), and told him Tupac was dead.
Ice-T said that "It might a been a hit, but it definitely wasn't Suge, I've been with some of the coldest motherfuckaz on the face of the Earth, and not one of em would be stupid enough or have the balls to call a hit on the CAR THEY'RE DRIVING!" Ice-T just knows that Pac made so many mistakes and bad decisions that it ended up giving him too many enemies. "Pac just wasn't as 'street' as everyone thought, a true playa knows when he fucks up."
So then he touched on Biggie's death. Basically he said, "Biggie dug his own grave, he knew he didn't have Pac killed but he makes a record that says something like "Was that me in the red car", trying to make it sound like it could been him". "Motherfuckas don't you know you get killed in some real gangsta shit if you say something like that...Now I'm not saying I know who killed him...but you just don't fuck with that" When Ice-T said "I don't know who killed him" he got this devilish smirk on his face, HE KNOWS!
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yeah sure, he can talk all the shit's he wants knows,they both dead, nobody can say it's bullshit, then ice-t is a bigg hero, bla bla,
nawww fuck ice-t( well, for theses comments, cause he's music is tight )
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BULLSHIT! Too $hort wasn't in the car. No one was in the car but Pac and Suge. You got this garbage from SOHH.com right homie? I read this and just laughed.
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right.who knows?
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Well it sounds kinda logic... more then the other rumors but im sick and tired of the 2 pac's death rumor... the man is dead r.i.p and the killer problably got killed or killed himself before it happens so why bother lookin for him?
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I WAS WATCHING TUPAC SHAKUR: BEFORE I WAKE. AND ITS TOLD BY HIS BODYGUARD FRANK ALEXANDER. HE SAYS THAT IT WAS ONLY PAC AND SUGE IN THE CAR. HE WAS IN AN SUV BEHIND PAC AND SUGE WIT THE OUTLAWZ. SO TOO SHORT WASNT IN THE CAR. IS TOO SHORT EVEN DOWN WIT THA ROW?
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I think the old Outlaw is EDI. And Too Short... i think he was there. But not in the same car. He meant in the car behind Suge's BMW. There was a carovana with about a dozin of cars. Pac & Suge werent alone. That's what he's talking about.
Plus.. this is not a diss to Pac in any way. He just said the truth. I'm the biggest Pac fan alive, but he said nuthing but the truth here. For real. About Pac and about Biggie. Pac wasnt a gangsta, in no way. He was introduced by Suge into this life. He didnt even like it. He was a poet, an artist, a rapper, a lyrical genius, an actor, a showman, a businessman. He was talking about killing men etc.. About revenge etc.. but.. damn! He was living a G life for real and he kicked a Crip like that? Just a stupid thing. You cant fuck with Bloods and go and kick a Crip worldwide, and then go out with Suge in his car without a bullet proof and talk with some bitches and go to perform in a club without guns (they forced em to leave the guns at the hotel) etc etc... Just too stupid. Sorry Pac.
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Plus.. this is not a diss to Pac in any way. He just said the truth. I'm the biggest Pac fan alive, but he said nuthing but the truth here. For real. About Pac and about Biggie. Pac wasnt a gangsta, in no way. He was introduced by Suge into this life. He didnt even like it. He was a poet, an artist, a rapper, a lyrical genius, an actor, a showman, a businessman. He was talking about killing men etc.. About revenge etc.. but.. damn! He was living a G life for real and he kicked a Crip like that? Just a stupid thing. You cant fuck with Bloods and go and kick a Crip worldwide, and then go out with Suge in his car without a bullet proof and talk with some bitches and go to perform in a club without guns (they forced em to leave the guns at the hotel) etc etc... Just too stupid. Sorry Pac.
Word, Antonio's on point, I believe Ice T, he aint got no reason to lie on some shit like this.
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"I'm the biggest Pac fan alive"WHY U ARE SO SURE?
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Actually there are 2 things u can do!
1. Start a lyrical war, dissing and lyrically destroying your enemies (and Pac did it with BIG and all his enemies, for example with Hit Em Up)...
2. Go in NYC and kill your enemies, real G shit.
Pac did the first thing, Ice-T talked with him about the 2nd thing. It was his natural choice, since he was/is a real G (or at least he's surrounded by real G's). But the MISTAKE of Pac is not that he chosed the 1st thing, but that then he chosed to roll with real gangsters that KILLS guys daily. And he wasnt like that. He was a young black man with the "I DONT GIVE A FUCK" mentality. But he wasnt a bad man. A killer. He went too far! There's a movie of LL COOL J and EPPS called IN TOO DEEP. Well.. it reminds me of Pac (not the movie itself, but the theme, the history, the title!). Well.. Pac went too far with his "GANGSTA RAP" role.
I think Ice-T is right. To make Hit Em Up was a mistake. It started too much noise, too much rivalry. East vs West (even if it wasnt Pac's purpose), Death Row vs Bad Boy, etc.. When BIG didnt shot him. Same with P.Diddy. MAYBE (and i repeat: MAYBE) Biggie knew who shot Pac, and he was so compromised (he knew both the shooter and Pac) that he didnt say nothing to Pac.... but............... c'mon! Ok, he was supposed to be Pac's homie, but.. damn! Pac went too far. Ice-T was right. If he thought BIG really setted him up, he had to go to NYC to talk with him face to face. What he did? He just dissed him from a studio, in a track. His most famous track!!!!! He dissed him, his label, his wife, his mother, his friend P.Diddy, all the rappers signed to Bad Boy and 3/4 of the rappers in the East Coast (even underground rappers like Chino XL). Now i feel when East Coast fans label Pac as a jealous muthafucka. They right. I mean.. Pac wasnt jealous (cause he was better than most of the guys he dissed), but.. he acted like that.
Props to Ice-T.
P.S.
Myrealname.. i wrote it to explain i'm a fan, not to really write that i'm the number 1 top-diamond-star fan of Pac! LOL!
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"I'm the biggest Pac fan alive"WHY U ARE SO SURE?
Again? I already replied in my post!!!!! Read it! U wrote this stupid question 2 times? C'mon.. let's talk about the topic btw!
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Well Ice-T knew him personally, so thats a huge advantage he has over us fans & the people in the industry that talk on his death all the time. But I don't think it was a bad idea to make 'Hit em' up', but I do think it was a bad idea to roll with gangs when your a very public figure. I don't think 'Pac went too far with 'hit em up', he could of gone further, shit have you even read any of the interviews 'Pac did after the first shooting?? Did you not feel the betrayal he felt after describing how biggie & puffy wouldn't look at him when he went upstairs after getting shot the fuck up?! I know if I was in that situation and they were looking as guilty as sin I would feel the same damn way. Do you actually think 'Pac would be able to face biggie after the betrayal he felt and not get all crazy, i'm sure you know how much of a stubborn person 'Pac could be. He was very angry and he had a right to be, you didn't see biggie asking to talk with 'Pac to sort shit out, that made the situation even more tense and prolly made 'Pac think biggie was even more guilty of the accused. This wasn't your every day argument, this was a life and death situation. But what I do think was a big mistake was biggie saying that shit after 'Pac's death, like T said. That was delving into some real street shit. Who knows what 'Pac would of done if he survived that shooting and biggie never got shot after, maybe the real truth would of surfaced after all.
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But I don't think it was a bad idea to make 'Hit em' up', but I do think it was a bad idea to roll with gangs when your a very public figure. I don't think 'Pac went too far with 'hit em up', he could of gone further, shit have you even read any of the interviews 'Pac did after the first shooting?? Did you not feel the betrayal he felt after describing how biggie & puffy wouldn't look at him when he went upstairs after getting shot the fuck up?! I know if I was in that situation and they were looking as guilty as sin I would feel the same damn way. Do you actually think 'Pac would be able to face biggie after the betrayal he felt and not get all crazy, i'm sure you know how much of a stubborn person 'Pac could be. He was very angry and he had a right to be, you didn't see biggie asking to talk with 'Pac to sort shit out, that made the situation even more tense and prolly made 'Pac think biggie was even more guilty of the accused. This wasn't your every day argument, this was a life and death situation. But what I do think was a big mistake was biggie saying that shit after 'Pac's death, like T said. That was delving into some real street shit. Who knows what 'Pac would of done if he survived that shooting and biggie never got shot after, maybe the real truth would of surfaced after all.
I've read the interviews. Pac went too far not with Hit Em Up, but with his G shit. Btw man.. think about this, please!
Pac had no rights at all to make those kind of tracks (in fact we know what he created, even if it wasnt his purpose, with Hit Em Up etc..). I mean he wasnt the i-dont-give-a-fuck young man no more. He was a star. He had thousands and thousands of young guys buying his cds. He was a MAN, damn! He was an example. He was a model. PLEASE STOP DEFENDING THOSE GANGSTA RAPPERS WHEN THEY MAKE MISTAKES! Even if his name is 2Pac and he's the best rapper ever and he's your (and my) fav ever! He had something that all the gangsta rappers aint positive to admit: RESPONSABILITY.
Yeah. Exactly. RESPONSABILITY. Dont reply with bullshit posts like: "he was a free man. He was free to say what he wanted. If some1 acts like him, he's just a stupid Pac wannabe!" cause this is too superficial.
I go mad when i listen to those kind of replies. A RAPPER IS A MODEL NOT CAUSE HE WANTS TO BE IT, BUT CAUSE SOCIETY MAKES HIM A MODEL. I MEAN.. IF YOU GOT MILLIONS OF GUYS THAT BUY YOUR CDS, IT'S CAUSE THEY FEEL YOU, THE LISTEN TO YOU. So it is immature to continue to talk about negative things, violence, etc..
And it was a mistake to release Hit Em Up (my opinion)
Shit..... Pac is the reason why i think that probably Dolores Tucker was right. I mean... it's all cool to rap about guns, about killing "niggas", about violence, about "fuck a bitch", about "chronic", about "robbery", about "rapes", about "selling drug", against Police, against the law, against Clinton & Bush, against white guys (or black guys), against Bloods, against Cripz, etc.. and all those kind of shit... BUT WHEN SHIT HAPPENS..... NOBODY IS READY TO TAKE HIS RESPONSABILITY AND TO ADMIT HE WENT TOO FAR. That's what i hate about gangsta rap.
Who do you blame for Pac's death?
Who do you blame for all the noise created by Hit Em Up?
Who do you blame for the East vs West rivalry elevated like never before?
Who do you blame for BIG's death?
Who do you blame for all the violence in the streets of USA?
Who do you blame if 3/4 of the black men still continue to sell drugs?
Who do you blame if 3/4 of em are constantly high?
Who do you blame if girls are considered like bitches? Like animals?
Who do you blame etc.... etc.. etc..?? Me?
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Ice T spoke the real on Pac
I've always said 2Pac fucked himself up by joining the bloods & talking too much shit. Thats what killed Pac. Peoples from teh street dont like people being all cocky & acting real tough in the media spotlight but when they come to the street they not even half as tough as they betray in the media.
Biggie, i never heard him say shit about no red car, dont know what T's talkin bout there
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this story is BS cuz first of all the Death Row Chain was jacked in some mall in L.A, some Inglewood Mall
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Around the time of the Tyson fight, Puffy had hired some crips (can't remember what set) as security at the fight, and thats when someone got punked for their 'Death Row' chain..
That's what he said. He didnt say they jacked the chain at the fight. But around the time.
Btw who cares about when? We all read what MTV wrote about the Inglewood mall. The important thing is that the day before Pac's shooting, other crips died. And, that week, other bloods and crips died. It was nuthing but a G thang (not like the Snoop & Dre track, real shit!).
Dont focus your attention on particulars, but on the message! Who cares if he right or if he's BS? What he said is nothing but the truth bacause of the message, not because of the history he wrote!
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2 pac was too much on powder...this is the problem.
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"So it is immature to continue to talk about negative things, violence, etc.."LIVE BY THE GUN...DIE BY THE GUN
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when the hell 2pac joined a blood gang?
Mistatonio, the inglewood mall incident was months before the fight. it wasnt "around that time"
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this story is BS cuz first of all the Death Row Chain was jacked in some mall in L.A, some Inglewood Mall
This isn't important but it was a Lakewood mall. WHOOP WHOOP! Lakewood!
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This isn't important but it was a Lakewood mall. WHOOP WHOOP! Lakewood!
lol i wasnt so sure about it
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2 pac was really too much on cocaine!
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What The Fuck Is Your Obssession With Talkin Bout 'Powder & Cocaine'?
I Think Your The One Snortin Shit
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...he was always angry.....i smoke weed,i hate powder
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2 pac was really too much on cocaine!
yea yea we heard you the first time.
He wasn't sniffing, doesn't seem like him
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Mistatonio, the inglewood mall incident was months before the fight. it wasnt "around that time"
I think, the DR chain got jacked by Orlando Anderson at that mall WCV said, and the he (anderson) turnt up at the Tyson fight wearing it, so Pac and Suge beat him down in the lobby and jacked it back. I read something like that over at Hitemup.com.
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I don't think 'Pac was using charlie but I think he was hooked on the ol' hennesey.
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why u all hatin on t?? fuck that...t was more gangsta in reality than pac...even though pac's music was dealy gansgta...sounds to me like t was stating the facts...and no-one likes it...PAC FUCKED UP...MADE TOO MANY ENEMIES...it is true...and i am a big pac fan...but it's sumthin that i have to accept...and i aint hatin pac...but t is right...
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why u all hatin on t?? fuck that...t was more gangsta in reality than pac...even though pac's music was dealy gansgta...sounds to me like t was stating the facts...and no-one likes it...PAC FUCKED UP...MADE TOO MANY ENEMIES...it is true...and i am a big pac fan...but it's sumthin that i have to accept...and i aint hatin pac...but t is right...
only one person is hating on Ice T, and the thing about something I have to accept, dogg it sounds like you just came from counseling, LOL
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Ah ah, most of ya'll callin’, Pac a fake, but most of ya'll like Pac like it was your bro, so supp with that, I’m always the one people look as a dickrider, but seem to me like people like some fake ass here. ::)
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Ah ah, most of ya'll callin’, Pac a fake, but most of ya'll like Pac like it was your bro, so supp with that, I’m always the one people look as a dickrider, but seem to me like people like some fake ass here. ::)
Slickk - You Say That In EVERY Post You Make Recently!
"Im Called A Dickrider - But I Think You Lot Are..."
Etc Etc
So What If Others Think Your A Dickrider - Just Rise Above It ;)
peace
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Ah ah, most of ya'll callin’, Pac a fake, but most of ya'll like Pac like it was your bro, so supp with that, I’m always the one people look as a dickrider, but seem to me like people like some fake ass here. ::)
DICKRIDER = Who cant accept bad things of his fav rapper and he thinks that he's like God.
FAN = Who love his fav rapper, but can admit when he makes mistakes and when he makes great things.
Now... we are all admitting Pac made some mistakes. I think you can label us as "FANS", not as "DICKRIDERS". I will not add more. Peace.
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DICKRIDER = Who cant accept bad things of his fav rapper and he thinks that he's like God.
FAN = Who love his fav rapper, but can admit when he makes mistakes and when he makes great things.
Now... we are all admitting Pac made some mistakes. I think you can label us as "FANS", not as "DICKRIDERS". I will not add more. Peace.
On point
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^^^ ::)
rud , sure i got to say it for the other cause they call me dickrider and they don'T even know shit bout me, and they says that pac is fake and all , but they luv him like a god, but they don't like nelly or ja rule ,who's are as fake as they says pac is , so they dickrider on the fake shit , or they hypocrite but they ain't normal.
and yeah i'm a dickrider , i don'T give a beep no more , cause that all we got in our mouth , ::)
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^^^ ::)
What?
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lol, man , this was fo the definitions
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lol, man , this was fo the definitions
Yeah they were on point.
In Example:
Dickridah: "Canibus is the best rapper ever. And that thing with LL Cool J was just a rumour"
Fan: "Canibus is a great MC, so be it if he doesn't sell truckloads and Cool J knocked him da fugg out"
Knahmasayin? A fan must also see the bad sides of his idol, and if he don't, then he's not much more than a follower.
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yeah , and ???
what does it have to do with me
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ah ah ah....slickafella is also the clown of westcoastboard.cjb.net!
that board got maaaaaaaad love for cockafella :D ;D
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ah ah ah....slickafella is also the clown of westcoastboard.cjb.net!
that board got maaaaaaaad love for cockafella :D ;D
ha ha.. NOP! i don't even go on this board fool so fuck you
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I know muthaphukkaz that grew up with Ice T. My producers dad knew him, and he said he was on the Po' Pimp shit. He used to get beat in school, and dropped out and pimping was a way for money, as long as he had a gun. He was a little kid that made himself big, as long as he had a gun, without one he was a coward. Take that for what it is, just some hood stories I heard. And my producers father is a straight up O.G. from back in the days.
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only one person is hating on Ice T, and the thing about something I have to accept, dogg it sounds like you just came from counseling, LOL
i only read read up to the first time t was dissed and then assumed ppl would start agreeing wit him like they usually do...cos believe it or not when it is a red hot topic like this i can't be arsed readin the same thing ova and ova again...and i meant some ppl can't accept the fact that pac wasn't very good in the gang life and had to many enemies...i can accept that cuz i know it's true <<that's all i wuz sayin right therer!! and i never needed counsellin in my life...is that the kind of thing ppl say afta seein them??
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SliKk, u saying 'Pac was fake? Because i'm sure most will agree 'Pac was FAR from fake. Everything he said or did was him being real, that often got him into trouble but like he said everything he did he felt was right to him. I said that becoming fully gang affiliated was a bad idea because he was a public figure & so many people look upto him as he was/is a very important icon to hip-hop/rap fans, but the 'hit em' up' situation was his way of trying to humiliate biggie et al & letting EVERYONE know how he felt. Like I said this was very personal, you don't often forgive someone for trying to get you killed, even if biggie wasn't guilty of the accused he never really tried to get in touch with 'Pac to confirm he wasn't which prolly made 'Pac feel even more angry, what we know of anyways. If showing his anger in public felt right to 'Pac then so be it, it was his life & thats how he delt with things by being open about them.
Call me a dickrider but atleast I would admit it if 'Pac fell off, unlike someone on here that thinks Snoop is still as dangerous an MC as he was back with Doggystyle ::)
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yeah , and ???
what does it have to do with me
Actually nothing, but you questioned my "on point"-statement, so I had to make a example.
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Actually nothing, but you questioned my "on point"-statement, so I had to make a example.
aight then
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SliKk, u saying 'Pac was fake? Because i'm sure most will agree 'Pac was FAR from fake. Everything he said or did was him being real, that often
Nawww, get the shit clear homeboy, I like Pac, like I like ice-t, I grew up with their music.... What I’m saying is that most people here start to call Pac a fake, because all them disses, images (most of it) is fake, because it was given by sugar night, so I came with the conclusion that most of ya'll think that Pac is fake but spit some real shit on some track, what the difference? You calling him a fake but not all fake, just a little bit, anyways
Look, I don't say that Pac was gangbanging 24/7 each year and bla bla bla, I’m just saying that even if Suge gave him his image and ideas, Pac had to develop it, and spitting on cam's doing shit with baseball bats, beating up a nigga or whatever, Pac had some of this gangsta shit on him, so people can't say that Pac is fake or is image is fake, that's what I’m arguing about.
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Most of you are in here talking like you used to kick it with Pac. Man none of you have ever even met Pac. You really do not know how he really lived his life. The only part of his life that all of you, including me, is what you saw being portrayed in the media. The media twists shit around and you never ever know the whole 100% truth. You really don't know how street Pac was or how much of a gangsta he was. What we do know is that Pac originally got shot 5 times. I am sure that no one knows better than Pac, Biggie, Puffy, and the hitman who shot at Pac. If Biggie and Puffy had nothing to do with the setup I highly doubt that Pac would be so pissed at them. And since he was so pissed they most likely did have something to do with it. And if you think what Pac did was wrong for making the hit em up song and all that other shit you need to get your head out of your ass. Someone tried to fuckin kill him. You think he is just going to sit down and talk that shit out. Fuck that! Killing someone is some very serious shit. Pac had every fuckin right to be pissed. And supposedly joining the bloods and becoming all gangster, maybe he did that shit for some protection and help. After all before he was into all that gangster shit he had been shot 5 fuckin times. So how can you say that his death was all his own fault for getting into that gangster shit, when he had a very near death experience before getting into that shit.
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Most of you are in here talking like you used to kick it with Pac. Man none of you have ever even met Pac. You really do not know how he really lived his life. The only part of his life that all of you, including me, is what you saw being portrayed in the media. The media twists shit around and you never ever know the whole 100% truth. You really don't know how street Pac was or how much of a gangsta he was. What we do know is that Pac originally got shot 5 times. I am sure that no one knows better than Pac, Biggie, Puffy, and the hitman who shot at Pac. If Biggie and Puffy had nothing to do with the setup I highly doubt that Pac would be so pissed at them. And since he was so pissed they most likely did have something to do with it. And if you think what Pac did was wrong for making the hit em up song and all that other shit you need to get your head out of your ass. Someone tried to fuckin kill him. You think he is just going to sit down and talk that shit out. Fuck that! Killing someone is some very serious shit. Pac had every fuckin right to be pissed. And supposedly joining the bloods and becoming all gangster, maybe he did that shit for some protection and help. After all before he was into all that gangster shit he had been shot 5 fuckin times. So how can you say that his death was all his own fault for getting into that gangster shit, when he had a very near death experience before getting into that shit.
2 quick replies.
TO Slickkafalla:
Nobody is calling Pac a fake. At least not me. I just wrote than it's different to be a crazy young black man who got the infamous "I dont give a fuck mentality" and that use to say fuck the police, to sell drugs and to beat guys with his baseball bats than to roll with real G's. With a gang. To kick a Crip worldwide and then to walk away like nothing happened. He made a track called "You Can Be Touched". Well.. it seems like he forgot this track that night. Nobody is saying that he was fake. But to me we dont have to confuse the word "crazy" with "gangster". He was a crazy man, no doubt. He had his principles and he lived for em. With all his power. But, like Snoop said, Suge introduced him to a different level. From a thug-crazy man to a real gangsta! To Bloods vs Crips (i know Pac probably wasnt a real blood, but.. hey! Suge was a Blood and Pac kicked a Crip the day he was shot! How do u call this shit? Being neutral or what? I dont care about the reasons why he did it. I care about WHAT HE DID!).
Plus.. i'm not acting like i know Pac etc.. I'm just quoting words of your "hero" Snoop Dogg. Of C-Style. Of Ice-T. Of Pac's bodyguard. Of a lot of guys at Death Row. Of John Singleton. Of Belusci. Etc..
Of guys who actually KNEW him well.
TO budsmokeronly
It's not that if i think that it was a mistake to make "Hit Em Up" "i need to get my head out of my ass". Actually... i think that the whole intelligent world thinks what i wrote. Ice-T said that too. I'm saying it. Media is saying it. Even Afeni said it. And Pac's bodyguard.
Man.. you gotta quit to think of Pac like a videogame! C'MON PAC! THEY SHOT AT YOU! KILL EM ALL! BLAST ON THOSE NIGGAZ! 187 ON EM ALL! FUCK NEW YORK AND THEM PUSSY NIGGAZ!
Shit. I've read/heard this shit tooo many times, for real.
The real shit about HIT EM UP is this. Now i wanna see who got the courage to tell me i'm wrong!
1) PAC MADE HIT EM UP BY DISSING ALL HIS NEW YORK ENEMIES
2) NEW YORK RAPPERS DISSED HIM BACK (OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!)
3) MEDIA WANTED THIS SHIT TO START NOISE, SO THEY STARTED TO TALK ABOUT A WEST-EAST RIVALRY
4) PAC CONTINUED TO TALK SHIT ABOUT EVERYBODY IN NEW YORK & EAST COAST, FROM DELASOUL TO LIL KIM AND LL COOL J AND EVEN DA BRAT.
5) SOME OF EM DISSED HIM BACK, OF COURSE.
6) FUGEES SAID THE LIKE THE EAST COAST MORE THAN THE WEST COAST (AND IT'S OK, THEY FREE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT) AND PAC STARTED TO DISS EM SAYING THAT WEST COAST IS THE REAL SIDE. AND FUCK THE REST.
7) PAC MADE CALIFORNIA LOVE CALLING THE WEST COAST THE REAL SIDE. OF G'S. AND STARTED TO CALL OUT NAMES AGAIN AND TO TALK ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE, FUCKING WITH THEIR WIFES, ETC..
8) PAC WENT TO MUSIC AWARDS AND CONTINUED TO DISS NY RAPPERS.
9) PAC'S GROUPIES STARTED TO HATE NEW YORK.
10) NY FANS STARTED TO FEEL LIKE PAC WAS CRAZY. INSANE. JEALOUS (this is what they think)
11) PAC DISSED BAD BOY IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TRACK HE DID FROM ALL EYEZ ON ME TO KILLUMINATI TO THOUSANDS OF UNRELEASED TRACKS WE KNOW
12) A LOT OF INCIDENTS OCCURRED BETWEEN EAST COAST AND WEST COAST RAPPERS.
13) PAC WAS SHOT AND DIED
14) BIG WAS SHOT AND DIED
Now tell me... who do you blame for all this shit? Me? Who?
Like i said i'm a great fan of Pac. He's my hero. But it was a mistake to make Hit Em Up and to make all this noise, dissing everytime and everywhere. ICE-T was right. You want revenge? You wanna kill em? Call me and i'll go with you to NYC to kill all your enemies. You dont want revenge like that? Shut up and dont use the media or your tracks/videos for personal beefs. It only started a big East vs West coast rivalry. And, trust me, it still continues today. Not for the rappers, but for the fans. I mean.. Snoop made tracks with P.Diddy and we are all dissing him (i'm the first) for this shit. Just cause it's P.Diddy and it was Pac's enemy.
Fuck that.
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And supposedly joining the bloods and becoming all gangster, maybe he did that shit for some protection and help. After all before he was into all that gangster shit he had been shot 5 fuckin times. So how can you say that his death was all his own fault for getting into that gangster shit, when he had a very near death experience before getting into that shit.
Actually.. if u wanna be safe and you dont want to get shot.. you act like Snoop & Dre. That left that shit for good. They started to care about millions and not about wars and shit. That's what you have to do. You dont join a gang to get your ass safe. And you dont kick a Crip to get your ass saved. And you dont walk without a bullet proof to get your ass safe. Expecially if u got shot 5 times already and you know you can be touched.
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Most of you are in here talking like you used to kick it with Pac. Man none of you have ever even met Pac. You really do not know how he really lived his life. The only part of his life that all of you, including me, is what you saw being portrayed in the media. The media twists shit around and you never ever know the whole 100% truth. You really don't know how street Pac was or how much of a gangsta he was. What we do know is that Pac originally got shot 5 times. I am sure that no one knows better than Pac, Biggie, Puffy, and the hitman who shot at Pac. If Biggie and Puffy had nothing to do with the setup I highly doubt that Pac would be so pissed at them. And since he was so pissed they most likely did have something to do with it. And if you think what Pac did was wrong for making the hit em up song and all that other shit you need to get your head out of your ass. Someone tried to fuckin kill him. You think he is just going to sit down and talk that shit out. Fuck that! Killing someone is some very serious shit. Pac had every fuckin right to be pissed. And supposedly joining the bloods and becoming all gangster, maybe he did that shit for some protection and help. After all before he was into all that gangster shit he had been shot 5 fuckin times. So how can you say that his death was all his own fault for getting into that gangster shit, when he had a very near death experience before getting into that shit.
Thankyou, I agree, thats basically what i've been saying.