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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Sriram619 on April 06, 2006, 10:32:04 PM
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
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i miss it. just like i miss too $horts funky shit.
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i miss it. just like i miss too $horts funky shit.
and those gangsta CELLSKI hits
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
My favourite Dre Era is around 96/97/98 (between friday and shady). I think the Firm album and the Aftermath album contain some of his best work.
I once made a compilation of dre tracks around that era:
The all eyez on me tracks dre produced
The aftermath tracks dre produced
The firm tracks dre produced
That was a banger in my tapedeck 8)
Looking back, soundwise to me it's the transitionperiod from the g-funk to the 2001-funk, interesting period
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yeah been there done that was some classic shit...many people hated on the track...dont know why
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I like his work during tha G-Funk era better than anythang he has put out after that Afthermath compilation...
I don't like tha shit he did wit Em, when I first heard My Name Is I really hated it and couldn't believe it was Dre!
Bad Intentions iz still my fav post Death Row Dre track...
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Bad Intentions with Knoc-Turn'al? That wasn't produced by Dre.
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Bad Intentions with Knoc-Turn'al? That wasn't produced by Dre.
It was produced by Mahogany, but Dre helped him cuz he got co-producer credit for the beat...
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Bad Intentions with Knoc-Turn'al? That wasn't produced by Dre.
It was produced by Mahogany, but Dre helped him cuz he got co-producer credit for the beat...
Shiiit I didn't know that, thought Dre produced it by himself... :-\
Thanx 4 clearin' that up...
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
What, and G-Funk wasn't too easy to imitate? I hear FAR fewer people imitating Dre's post-Death Row/G-Funk sound than I do imitating his Death Row/G-Funk sound. G-Funk was pretty much all anyone was putting out from '93 to '98, and even today, there's a lotta cats in the West that are STILL putting out vintage "Chronic"/"Doggystyle"-type G-Funk records. That's kinda the reason I started to get tired of the sound after a while.
So basically, no, I don't miss Dre's old sound. Not anymore. And really, I don't see how anyone who lived through the G-Funk era couldn't find the sound tiring and played the fuck out by now.
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if your feeling dres late deathrow early aftermath style check out his bootleg collection called unreleased productions and check out the album he did for king tee thy kingdom come.
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if your feeling dres late deathrow early aftermath style check out his bootleg collection called unreleased productions and check out the album he did for king tee thy kingdom come.
Iz there any unreleased Death Row material on that bootleg collection like Street Scholars wit J-Flexx?
I THINK I got a few trackz from that 1, Sam Sneed'z In The Zone and Lady Heroin (OG) could be wrong though...
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I do believe street scholors is on that
as is bluberrys with sam sneed and snoop dogg.
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I do believe street scholors is on that
as is bluberrys with sam sneed and snoop dogg.
I also got that song...
Thanx 4 tha info gonna look 4 that album see what other songz are on it...
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
My favourite Dre Era is around 96/97/98 (between friday and shady). I think the Firm album and the Aftermath album contain some of his best work.
I once made a compilation of dre tracks around that era:
The all eyez on me tracks dre produced
The aftermath tracks dre produced
The firm tracks dre produced
That was a banger in my tapedeck 8)
Looking back, soundwise to me it's the transitionperiod from the g-funk to the 2001-funk, interesting period
Phone tap was dope as hell
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I really like those beats as well...You forgot about 'Blunt Time' though. IMO,it's one of Dre's beats ever, in terms of complexity.
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Phone Tap was dope as fuck...
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Firm Fiasco too
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
What, and G-Funk wasn't too easy to imitate? I hear FAR fewer people imitating Dre's post-Death Row/G-Funk sound than I do imitating his Death Row/G-Funk sound. G-Funk was pretty much all anyone was putting out from '93 to '98, and even today, there's a lotta cats in the West that are STILL putting out vintage "Chronic"/"Doggystyle"-type G-Funk records. That's kinda the reason I started to get tired of the sound after a while.
So basically, no, I don't miss Dre's old sound. Not anymore. And really, I don't see how anyone who lived through the G-Funk era couldn't find the sound tiring and played the fuck out by now.
Once again we agree
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How many of you miss dres old style from g funk to the late death row period to even early aftermath period with that east coast killas song and been there done that his new style is dope as fuck but its too easy to immitate
What, and G-Funk wasn't too easy to imitate? I hear FAR fewer people imitating Dre's post-Death Row/G-Funk sound than I do imitating his Death Row/G-Funk sound. G-Funk was pretty much all anyone was putting out from '93 to '98, and even today, there's a lotta cats in the West that are STILL putting out vintage "Chronic"/"Doggystyle"-type G-Funk records. That's kinda the reason I started to get tired of the sound after a while.
So basically, no, I don't miss Dre's old sound. Not anymore. And really, I don't see how anyone who lived through the G-Funk era couldn't find the sound tiring and played the fuck out by now.
Once again we agree
I didn't grew tired of it... Death Row, Dre, Warren G, Dove Shack, Twinz, Ruthless etc I loved that shit!
This kinda thang alwayz happenz in hip hop from time 2 time...
1997-1998: No Limit sound
1999-2001: Cash Money/Ruff Rydaz sound
2001-2003: Neptunes/Murder Inc sound
2003-2005: G-Unit/Dirty South sound
If itz done rite itz okay my opinion though...
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Hell yeah thatz Death Row fo' yo' azz...
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Hell yeah thatz Death Row fo' yo' azz...
Umm, no, it's not "Death Row" because in reality, Death Row was simply a product, a brand. What it truly was, however, was a combination of being at the right place at the right time, and having one incredible list of hungry, and tremendously talented individuals with one goal, getting paid. If you look back at the situation, Dre was at a crossroad in his career that just as easily could have been the end of his success. Because these kids had never seen any real paper, and desperately wanted to improve their situations, they used that, along with a shitload of chronic and truly vibed off one another, lifting each other to a state of creativity that hasn't really been matched since. Dre, who had been very successful before, was the ringleader of the group who provided the beats, and schooled them on the game. Don't think Dre wasn't hungry himself though. For a few years he had welched in the limelight and had no intentions of fading into oblivion.... so he pulled his shit together, came out with some of the best production of his life, and thus Death Row became what it was.
If you think about it, he did the exact same thing with Aftermath. Dre is business savvy as a muthafukka.... and had Suge absorbed the knowledge Dre could have passed onto him, well, we might very well have seen Death Row sitting on top today. I think most of you are blind to the fact that while Dre was involved with Death Row, the label flourished and became the most dominant powerhouse of talent in the music industry, but as soon as he left, the foundation began to crack wide open, and thus the label came crumbling down to the ground. I'm not saying Dre was perfect, but he is all about success, and knew when it was time to sever ties and take his own route. When it comes down to the comedown.... Just look at who's still doing their thing in the business, and who's in a world of shit without any Charmin.
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Hell yeah thatz Death Row fo' yo' azz...
Umm, no, it's not "Death Row" because in reality, Death Row was simply a product, a brand. What it truly was, however, was a combination of being at the right place at the right time, and having one incredible list of hungry, and tremendously talented individuals with one goal, getting paid. If you look back at the situation, Dre was at a crossroad in his career that just as easily could have been the end of his success. Because these kids had never seen any real paper, and desperately wanted to improve their situations, they used that, along with a shitload of chronic and truly vibed off one another, lifting each other to a state of creativity that hasn't really been matched since. Dre, who had been very successful before, was the ringleader of the group who provided the beats, and schooled them on the game. Don't think Dre wasn't hungry himself though. For a few years he had welched in the limelight and had no intentions of fading into oblivion.... so he pulled his shit together, came out with some of the best production of his life, and thus Death Row became what it was.
If you think about it, he did the exact same thing with Aftermath. Dre is business savvy as a muthafukka.... and had Suge absorbed the knowledge Dre could have passed onto him, well, we might very well have seen Death Row sitting on top today. I think most of you are blind to the fact that while Dre was involved with Death Row, the label flourished and became the most dominant powerhouse of talent in the music industry, but as soon as he left, the foundation began to crack wide open, and thus the label came crumbling down to the ground. I'm not saying Dre was perfect, but he is all about success, and knew when it was time to sever ties and take his own route. When it comes down to the comedown.... Just look at who's still doing their thing in the business, and who's in a world of shit without any Charmin.
I agree wit U on what U said about when Death Row just started but Dre'z departure didn't cause tha label 2 come fallin down...
I'm not gonna front alotta shit was goin' on at Death Row that was unhealthy 4 tha label'z succes and Dre didn't like that so he bounced but Death Row woulda been fine even without Dre, so many talented artistz and producerz were signed or affiliated by tha time Dre left in March of 1996!
However tha aftermath of Pac'z death, tha controversy, tha violence and Suge bein' send 2 prison were tha causez that tha West Coast Dynasty was crumblin' down...
Even wit all tha thangz that had happened at that time, if Suge didn't have 2 go jail in early 1997 thangz woulda turned out very differently 4 Death Row...
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Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Yeah and then Dre left and everyone (cept pac and snoop) fell off. We all know Pac dies and was rumored to be leaving DR, and Snoop left DR and had a few rough years too.
It's like Dre was the spark of life to that whole era, Suge was the cancer that killed it.
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Hell yeah thatz Death Row fo' yo' azz...
Umm, no, it's not "Death Row" because in reality, Death Row was simply a product, a brand. What it truly was, however, was a combination of being at the right place at the right time, and having one incredible list of hungry, and tremendously talented individuals with one goal, getting paid. If you look back at the situation, Dre was at a crossroad in his career that just as easily could have been the end of his success. Because these kids had never seen any real paper, and desperately wanted to improve their situations, they used that, along with a shitload of chronic and truly vibed off one another, lifting each other to a state of creativity that hasn't really been matched since. Dre, who had been very successful before, was the ringleader of the group who provided the beats, and schooled them on the game. Don't think Dre wasn't hungry himself though. For a few years he had welched in the limelight and had no intentions of fading into oblivion.... so he pulled his shit together, came out with some of the best production of his life, and thus Death Row became what it was.
If you think about it, he did the exact same thing with Aftermath. Dre is business savvy as a muthafukka.... and had Suge absorbed the knowledge Dre could have passed onto him, well, we might very well have seen Death Row sitting on top today. I think most of you are blind to the fact that while Dre was involved with Death Row, the label flourished and became the most dominant powerhouse of talent in the music industry, but as soon as he left, the foundation began to crack wide open, and thus the label came crumbling down to the ground. I'm not saying Dre was perfect, but he is all about success, and knew when it was time to sever ties and take his own route. When it comes down to the comedown.... Just look at who's still doing their thing in the business, and who's in a world of shit without any Charmin.
I agree wit U on what U said about when Death Row just started but Dre'z departure didn't cause tha label 2 come fallin down...
I'm not gonna front alotta shit was goin' on at Death Row that was unhealthy 4 tha label'z succes and Dre didn't like that so he bounced but Death Row woulda been fine even without Dre, so many talented artistz and producerz were signed or affiliated by tha time Dre left in March of 1996!
However tha aftermath of Pac'z death, tha controversy, tha violence and Suge bein' send 2 prison were tha causez that tha West Coast Dynasty was crumblin' down...
Even wit all tha thangz that had happened at that time, if Suge didn't have 2 go jail in early 1997 thangz woulda turned out very differently 4 Death Row...
See that's the thing though. Pac was getting ready to leave the label (I know some of you believe his new label was gonna be a sublabel of Death Row, but it was actually going to be through Interscope) and Snoop was upset behind the scenes at all of the growing "east coast/west coast" warz. Snoop had always tried to distance himself from the beef, and even praised Puffy and Biggie, saying he wouldn't mind working with them at all, and that Biggie was one of the most incredible rappers he had ever heard. Suge was hell bent on destroying Bad Boy records before they became the east coast's answer to Death Row, and he used Pac's jagged history with Biggie to his advantage. Listen to any and all music Pac made before going to Death Row. He's a political/concious rapper. Listen to his Death Row days, after Suge got in his ear, and all the sudden, he's the artist apparent to "supercrip". And no, I'm not saying Pac went Crip, (although it was widely believed he had affiliations to the Piru's) I'm saying that he went from being a concious rapper to a super gangsta persona, after being around Suge, and seeing the daily happenings in and around Death Row studios.
What I'm saying, is that Dre knew things were gettin outta hand in Death Row and knew that Suge wasn't gonna listen to him when it came to trying to straighten up all the drama, fighting and so on, so he bounced. Snoop was getting tired of all the same shit, and was unhappy over financial issues, so he was unhappy too. That's two out of your three major money makers unhappy with the current situation, and all of the problems lead back to Suge. Dre was the birth of an era, Suge was the death of one. Yaddadamean?!?
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His production post Death Row was decent, but not my favorite era for Dre production. I loved the '94-95 material he produced, like Natural Born Killaz, Keep Their Heads Ringin, California Love...seems every track he came out with was a banger in Death Row. But I think that in 1993, Dre was at his illest old school-wise. The Doggystyle album, the Let Me Ride Remix...The Chronic had just dropped, it was like the golden era.
I feel U on that 1!
Not just cause I'm such a big Death Row fan but Dre was in his prime when he was wit Tha Row...
Funny how all those poeple on DR back in the day were all at there primes and the chemistry between them, musically and lyrically, was excellent.Damn, those were the days
Hell yeah thatz Death Row fo' yo' azz...
Umm, no, it's not "Death Row" because in reality, Death Row was simply a product, a brand. What it truly was, however, was a combination of being at the right place at the right time, and having one incredible list of hungry, and tremendously talented individuals with one goal, getting paid. If you look back at the situation, Dre was at a crossroad in his career that just as easily could have been the end of his success. Because these kids had never seen any real paper, and desperately wanted to improve their situations, they used that, along with a shitload of chronic and truly vibed off one another, lifting each other to a state of creativity that hasn't really been matched since. Dre, who had been very successful before, was the ringleader of the group who provided the beats, and schooled them on the game. Don't think Dre wasn't hungry himself though. For a few years he had welched in the limelight and had no intentions of fading into oblivion.... so he pulled his shit together, came out with some of the best production of his life, and thus Death Row became what it was.
If you think about it, he did the exact same thing with Aftermath. Dre is business savvy as a muthafukka.... and had Suge absorbed the knowledge Dre could have passed onto him, well, we might very well have seen Death Row sitting on top today. I think most of you are blind to the fact that while Dre was involved with Death Row, the label flourished and became the most dominant powerhouse of talent in the music industry, but as soon as he left, the foundation began to crack wide open, and thus the label came crumbling down to the ground. I'm not saying Dre was perfect, but he is all about success, and knew when it was time to sever ties and take his own route. When it comes down to the comedown.... Just look at who's still doing their thing in the business, and who's in a world of shit without any Charmin.
I agree wit U on what U said about when Death Row just started but Dre'z departure didn't cause tha label 2 come fallin down...
I'm not gonna front alotta shit was goin' on at Death Row that was unhealthy 4 tha label'z succes and Dre didn't like that so he bounced but Death Row woulda been fine even without Dre, so many talented artistz and producerz were signed or affiliated by tha time Dre left in March of 1996!
However tha aftermath of Pac'z death, tha controversy, tha violence and Suge bein' send 2 prison were tha causez that tha West Coast Dynasty was crumblin' down...
Even wit all tha thangz that had happened at that time, if Suge didn't have 2 go jail in early 1997 thangz woulda turned out very differently 4 Death Row...
See that's the thing though. Pac was getting ready to leave the label (I know some of you believe his new label was gonna be a sublabel of Death Row, but it was actually going to be through Interscope) and Snoop was upset behind the scenes at all of the growing "east coast/west coast" warz. Snoop had always tried to distance himself from the beef, and even praised Puffy and Biggie, saying he wouldn't mind working with them at all, and that Biggie was one of the most incredible rappers he had ever heard. Suge was hell bent on destroying Bad Boy records before they became the east coast's answer to Death Row, and he used Pac's jagged history with Biggie to his advantage. Listen to any and all music Pac made before going to Death Row. He's a political/concious rapper. Listen to his Death Row days, after Suge got in his ear, and all the sudden, he's the artist apparent to "supercrip". And no, I'm not saying Pac went Crip, (although it was widely believed he had affiliations to the Piru's) I'm saying that he went from being a concious rapper to a super gangsta persona, after being around Suge, and seeing the daily happenings in and around Death Row studios.
What I'm saying, is that Dre knew things were gettin outta hand in Death Row and knew that Suge wasn't gonna listen to him when it came to trying to straighten up all the drama, fighting and so on, so he bounced. Snoop was getting tired of all the same shit, and was unhappy over financial issues, so he was unhappy too. That's two out of your three major money makers unhappy with the current situation, and all of the problems lead back to Suge. Dre was the birth of an era, Suge was the death of one. Yaddadamean?!?
I know what U mean but I don't agree wit U on certain thangz...
NOBODY knowz 4 sure if Pac really wanted 2 leave D.R., despite him firin' David Kenner as his laywer or whatever we just do not know!
Ur rite about Suge'z hatred towardz Sean and Bad Boy and Pac shared that but he was just gettin' outta jail muthafuckaz been tellin' him B.I.G. had sumthang 2 do wit tha November 1994 shooting, most of his former friendz let him down, muthafuckaz been talkin' shit about him said he got raped in jail and this and that, he was mad as fuck when he got out so yeah he went on an all out war when he joined Death Row...
I think because of that he changed his style a lil bit most of tha OG Death Row Pac songz had that hatred but sum of them were still political and talked about social issuez...
I think U rite about Dre not wantin' 2 be wit Death Row anymore because thangz started 2 get outta control, just read that The Source interview he did when he left...
I'm not sure about tha Snoop situation though he has been tellin' different thangz over tha yearz since he left Death Row but I still think if Suge hadn't been send 2 jail that tha Death Row Dynasty woulda survived even without Dre and Pac...
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is suge didnt go to jail i see snoop bein the president of deathrow and owner of his own label, which would have been great. because since snoop left deathrow his albums have been weak.
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is suge didnt go to jail i see snoop bein the president of deathrow and owner of his own label, which would have been great. because since snoop left deathrow his albums have been weak.
If Snoop stayed he woulda had his own Doggystyle Records on Death Row...
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is suge didnt go to jail i see snoop bein the president of deathrow and owner of his own label, which would have been great. because since snoop left deathrow his albums have been weak.
Like "Tha Doggfather"? That was a weak album. "No Limit Top Dogg", "Tha Last Meal", and both of Tha Eastsidaz albums are by far the best work he's done since "Doggystyle".
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is suge didnt go to jail i see snoop bein the president of deathrow and owner of his own label, which would have been great. because since snoop left deathrow his albums have been weak.
Like "Tha Doggfather"? That was a weak album. "No Limit Top Dogg", "Tha Last Meal", and both of Tha Eastsidaz albums are by far the best work he's done since "Doggystyle".
Doggfather wasn't a weak album itz just that it didn't measure up 2 Doggystyle but that don't make it wack...
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is suge didnt go to jail i see snoop bein the president of deathrow and owner of his own label, which would have been great. because since snoop left deathrow his albums have been weak.
They have been better than anything Death Row has released since he left.
Leaving DR was the best thing Snoop could do. At least he got paid.
If he had stayed on DR he would still be a broke man with a nice car and a golden chain,
just like every single artist Suge's been stealing from over the years.