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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Mac 10 † on April 13, 2006, 09:33:25 AM
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Bigotry a Scottish problem - Uefa
Uefa says it could not take action against Rangers fans because their alleged sectarian singing had been tolerated for years in Scotland.
Rangers had been found not guilty of discriminatory chants during the Champions League games with Villarreal.
Uefa's statement said that "Billy Boys" had long been sung "without either the Scottish football or governmental authorities being able to intervene".
"The result is that this song is now somehow tolerated," it explained.
Rangers were fined just under £9,000 after a fan smashed a window on the Villarreal team bus on the way to the second leg in Spain.
But, although they were found not guilty of discriminatory singing, Ibrox chairman David Murray made perhaps his strongest condemnation yet of bigoted behaviour at football matches.
And he warned that European football's governing body could take tougher action in the future.
However, in its explaination of its decision, Uefa appears to wash its hands of what it saw as a particularly local problem.
"In examining the alleged discriminatory chants, the control & disciplinary body admitted that the nature of the song concerned - "Billy Boys" - related to a social problem in Scotland," said the statement.
"The body also believed that the disciplinary decision in this case had to be taken in the context of Scotland's social and historical background.
"Given this social and historical context, the control & disciplinary body said it considered that Uefa cannot demand an end to behaviour which has been tolerated for years.
"In view of the above, the control & disciplinary body ruled that, despite the behaviour of its supporters, Rangers FC had not infringed Article 5 of the Uefa disciplinary regulations and cannot be punished according to Article 6."
However, Article 5 says Uefa will not tolerate conduct that is "racist, discriminatory, politically extremist or insulting".
And Scottish FA president John McBeth told BBC Sport: "There is a problem. It's not peculiar to football. It's society's problem and one that visits on one or two of our clubs."
He welcomed Uefa's investigation as it highlighted the problem and gave impetus to action designed to eradicate it.
McBeth pointed out that the SFA is introducing a license scheme, to be introduced later this year, that requires clubs to take action to tackle sectarianism.
"The only problem we have with European action is that it tends to be a blanket punishment on clubs," he said.
"We would like to see the people causing the problem stopped getting into grounds.
"We are working with the Scottish Executive, Scottish Office and sportscotland to introduce banning orders for troublemakers."
McBeth said that, if clubs did not take sufficient action, the SFA could impose fines, close grounds or impose suspensions.
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Hallo, Hallo, we are the billy boys
Im not a rangers fan...i just rememebr reading that in the book "Why Soccer Explains Globalization"
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Hallo, Hallo, we are the billy boys
Im not a rangers fan...i just rememebr reading that in the book "Why Soccer Explains Globalization"
how does soccer explain globalization?
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Fuck off you fenian twat.
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Fuck off you fenian twat.
From the bottom of my heart, I hope you die.
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Fuck off you fenian twat.
what the fuck is your problem you scummy little shite, u must be like 13 years old tryna be like the rest of the fuckin huns, cunt
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Fuck off you fenian twat.
what the fuck is your problem you scummy little shite, u must be like 13 years old tryna be like the rest of the fuckin huns, cunt
Why do you call Rangers fans huns by the way? As Rangers fans haven't always been called this offensive term
Bigotry is indeed a problem in Scotland (would say that the West Coast of Scotland is worse IMO), but I would say that recently it seems to becoming less of a problem that it used to be - it isn't something that will ever be completely wiped out but its something that football clubs (and I include both the old firm clubs in this) can & have been doing something to help
Hallo, Hallo, we are the billy boys
Im not a rangers fan...i just rememebr reading that in the book "Why Soccer Explains Globalization"
how does soccer explain globalization?
Yeah wondering that myself sounds interesting
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since we're talking about Scotland.... Robbie Winters scored an amazing goal today... and Charlie Miller made an even better one last week. :)
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Fuck off you fenian twat.
Say it loud im Fenian and proud.......
Im too tired to write a response just now on the topic so al come back tomorrow.
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its stupid, period.
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Hallo, Hallo, we are the billy boys
Im not a rangers fan...i just rememebr reading that in the book "Why Soccer Explains Globalization"
how does soccer explain globalization?
i hahere's the book.
How Soccer Explains the World : An Unlikely Theory of Globalization
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0066212340/002-4166880-8776062?v=glance&n=283155
i havn't read it in a while..so i kind of forgot lol..but there's a chapter in there all about Scotland. THere's also chapters on Spain, Italy, Eastern Europe, Jews in Soccer, America and Iran