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Title: who ya tink is more ill? fredwreck or scott storch
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 17, 2002, 01:46:28 AM
i aint really feelin fredwrecks beats that much yet for some reason so imma have 2 say im scott plus he got more variety 2 me i like the way he used the keys.
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on February 17, 2002, 05:31:10 AM
Fredwreck NO DOUBT.
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 06:58:59 AM
I really don't see why there's so much hype about Fred Wreck.. I think he's an average producer at best, but everyone here praises him like he's the next Dre. To me he sounds like just another Battlecat, Meech Wells, Jellyroll, etc. That Dogghouse production is straight wack.
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Post by: Head Honcho on February 17, 2002, 07:38:21 AM
Between those 2 def Fred
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Post by: Trauma-san on February 17, 2002, 07:44:14 AM
I like scott storch's squeak better.
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on February 17, 2002, 07:44:52 AM
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I really don't see why there's so much hype about Fred Wreck.. I think he's an average producer at best, but everyone here praises him like he's the next Dre. To me he sounds like just another Battlecat, Meech Wells, Jellyroll, etc. That Dogghouse production is straight wack.


Fuck Dre.....Fred's on anotha level.
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on February 17, 2002, 07:49:45 AM
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I really don't see why there's so much hype about Fred Wreck.. I think he's an average producer at best, but everyone here praises him like he's the next Dre. To me he sounds like just another Battlecat, Meech Wells, Jellyroll, etc. That Dogghouse production is straight wack.


Ur Wacc
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Post by: HBKid_Jr on February 17, 2002, 08:06:56 AM
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Fuck Dre.....Fred's on anotha level.
i hope ur kiddin,  i dunno know,  scott droped some hot shit on infamy an plus hes holdin it down for us white boys
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Post by: Big FC on February 17, 2002, 08:11:55 AM
i'm not sure about fuck dre, but fred wreck is dope as hell and he's on a level above scott, IMO
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 08:15:23 AM
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Fuck Dre.....Fred's on anotha level.


::) Just what exactly has Fred Wreck done that's so amazing???

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Ur Wacc


Yea good one, ya fuckin' faggot.. you really got me there, ya fake ass wannabe crip. Do me a favour, and get Snoop's dick outta your bitch ass mouth, and try replyin' with somethin' half intelligent. "Ur Wacc".. yea, eat a fat fuckin' dick, ho.
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on February 17, 2002, 08:17:33 AM
G who ur callin a hoe...Dont be confuse I aint ur mom.


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Post by: Joachim on February 17, 2002, 08:33:14 AM
I havent heard enough of Scott Storch to make a fair comparison, but from what ive heard i prefer Fred Wreck.
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Post by: Suga Foot on February 17, 2002, 08:41:19 AM
IMO Scott Storch.  He has more mature sounding beats. (if that makes any sense).  Don't get me wrong tho I still love Fred Rizzle.
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 08:44:38 AM
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G who ur callin a hoe...Dont be confuse I aint ur mom.




Kid, just shut up.. I ain't fuckin' with ya anymore, cause I can see you don't got enough intelligence to have a decent conversation. If you wanna be a bitch about it, keep talkin' shit.. I don't really give a fuck about it either way.
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on February 17, 2002, 08:48:43 AM
Thats Kool KID I dont want no beef..ur the one who start trippin just cause I said u were wacc thats it
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Post by: PLANT on February 17, 2002, 08:51:23 AM
FRED WRECK ;D
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Post by: PLANT on February 17, 2002, 08:53:46 AM
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::) Just what exactly has Fred Wreck done that's so amazing???


Yea good one, ya fuckin' faggot.. you really got me there, ya fake ass wannabe crip. Do me a favour, and get Snoop's dick outta your bitch ass mouth, and try replyin' with somethin' half intelligent. "Ur Wacc".. yea, eat a fat fuckin' dick, ho.

IT AINT TO INTELLIGENT SAYIN DOGGHOUSE PRODUCTION IS WACK...I THINK UR WACK 2 ;D
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 09:11:28 AM
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IT AINT TO INTELLIGENT SAYIN DOGGHOUSE PRODUCTION IS WACK...I THINK UR WACK 2 ;D


Aww, that really hurts me to read that.. looks like I'll be cryin' myself to sleep again tonight. Dogghouse production IS WACK.. how the fuck can anybody like that shit?? I can't believe they call it "new G-Funk".. that shit ain't nothin' like real G-Funk.. it's garbage.. fuckin' Nintendo beats. And don't you fuckin' dare question MY intelligence, cause I KNOW I'm a hell of alot smarter than you.. fuck, you must have the IQ of a severley retarded 4 year old if Dogghouse beats stimulate your mind.

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Post by: PLANT on February 17, 2002, 09:20:46 AM
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Aww, that really hurts me to read that.. looks like I'll be cryin' myself to sleep again tonight. Dogghouse production IS WACK.. how the fuck can anybody like that shit?? I can't believe they call it "new G-Funk".. that shit ain't nothin' like real G-Funk.. it's garbage.. fuckin' Nintendo beats. And don't you fuckin' dare question MY intelligence, cause I KNOW I'm a hell of alot smarter than you.. fuck, you must have the IQ of a severley retarded 4 year old if Dogghouse beats stimulate your mind.


yea u seem real smart behind that pc u retarded muthafucka.  u wonder why people like that production?  cuz the shits on point.  they got a nice west coast feel and they aint no poppy beats like timbo an neptunes are usin...those beats r laid back , nice to walk on and blaze 2.  if those beats were as bad as you say, then why do people wanna hear them?  cuz they got jam.  for the most part, fred wreck laces the fuck outta his joints.  hes on point, so quit hatin and dont make bullshit statements like "dogghouse production is wack"
your ignorance makes me laugh.  how old are you 12?  tell me you KNOW u r smarter than i am?  u dont know me muthafucka, so shut the fuck up. ;D
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 17, 2002, 09:20:56 AM
i aint really feelin alot of dogghouse beats neither man, i dunno why i use to feel  there shit man but its kinda gettin weak at the moment, i dont think fredwreck is all that either, maybe when i hear more of his shit then i'll be down with it but i gotta go for storch by far at the moment.

peace
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 17, 2002, 09:24:18 AM
i tink theres a big difference in say wat beats are comin outta dre scott mel man n even some of eminems shit.....dj premier and alchemist are dope 2. some one hook me up with something of fredwreck of what they tink is real dope so i can listen to it man, cuz ive only heard like 4-5 songs of either production wise
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Post by: West Coast Veteran on February 17, 2002, 09:37:36 AM
I love the DoggHouse production. STR8 up West Coast feel.

Vote = Fredwrectify!
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 09:43:47 AM
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yea u seem real smart behind that pc u retarded muthafucka.  u wonder why people like that production?  cuz the shits on point.  they got a nice west coast feel and they aint no poppy beats like timbo an neptunes are usin...those beats r laid back , nice to walk on and blaze 2.  if those beats were as bad as you say, then why do people wanna hear them?  cuz they got jam.  for the most part, fred wreck laces the fuck outta his joints.  hes on point, so quit hatin and dont make bullshit statements like "dogghouse production is wack"
your ignorance makes me laugh.  how old are you 12?  tell me you KNOW u r smarter than i am?  u dont know me muthafucka, so shut the fuck up. ;D


On point, huh? Fuck that.. they're not "laid back".. I think the word you're lookin' for is.. oh yea, BORING. Why do people wanna hear them?? 'Cause it's Snoop, mothafucka!! People will buy anything with Snoop's name on it, and claim to love it 'cause either: A)They're fuckin' dickriders and groupies, B)They're stupid ass teenyboppers and wannabes who can't get enough of "Snoop Doggy Dogg", or C)They're collectors or some shit who buy everything Snoop releases. I'm not fuckin' ignorant either.. I used to be a HUGE Snoop fan when Dre was behind the boards, 'cause that was GOOD MUSIC. It was creative.. all the Dogghouse producers sound EXTREMELY similiar.. and you can't argue with that. It's all the same boring ass shit they've been doin' since the first Eastsidaz CD.

I didn't mean for this to turn into such a huge fuckin' debate, so if you like Dogghouse production, good for you.. bump that shit all you want. I was just givin' my 2 cents about the whole thing.. everyone here is entitled to their own opinion. Anyway, I don't feel like gettin' into another big thing like this, so let's just say we don't agree and leave it at that.
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Post by: PLANT on February 17, 2002, 09:55:04 AM
yea i aint tryin to get into no huge argument either homie but u come out and say that dogghouse is wack and u r smarter than i am and i am a fucking retard...i think thats ignorant of you.  and also if u dont like the sound that the dogghouse producers have created, then maybe u should just leave it alone...u dont have to come an reply to prove that u think they suck.  it makes me mad cuz people who hate on snoop and co.  always have to prove it so bad.
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 17, 2002, 10:08:21 AM
I don't usually do this but..

Sorry for callin' you a retard an' shit.. hey, everybody has their own likes and dislikes, but I came out a little strong when I was expressin' my opinions.. sometimes I'm like that, hardheaded.. it's just my nature. I shoulda added "in my opinion" when I said Dogghouse production was wack, cause obviously alot of people like it.

Cool?
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 17, 2002, 10:12:33 AM
can some one name some fredwreck production ya think was dope apart fromt the stuff on bones n kurupts space boogie???
peace
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Post by: PLANT on February 17, 2002, 10:28:59 AM
fred wreck produced "gang bag 4 real" from duces n trayz,
thats one of my favorites off that album. he also did "curious", "angels make the world go round", "bet i never slip", "ridaz with me",  those all from doggy's angels album which i thought was very tight production wise...i think they used better beats on doggys angels than both eastsidaz albums...definatly the second one
i know he did work for snoop dogg presents tha eastsidaz aswell, but i dont have the credits for that album cuz the graff on the booklets hangin on my wall. ;D
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Post by: Jome on February 17, 2002, 10:52:09 AM
As of now:

1. Scott Storch
2. Fred Wreck

Fredwrizzle just started out, knahmasayin.
Scott been doing this ish for years, while Fred just started getting heavy rotation with artists. Fred made some beats back in da days too, but that wasn't much compared to how much he gon do in the future.

But I can't understand why Storch gonna work for C. Aguilera ::) ::)
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Post by: Lil Jay on February 17, 2002, 10:54:09 AM
frederick nassar
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Post by: AxleF on February 17, 2002, 11:41:20 AM
I'm kinda leanin towards Scott S. cuz of the work he did on Tarantula.  Fred Wreck comes off like hes tryin to sound like Dre to me.  At least on Space Boogie he does.  IMO.

Ax
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Post by: the408figga on February 17, 2002, 01:04:41 PM

fred wreck is tighter.. nephew is more versitle..i aint seen storch get funky yet, everything ive heard from him souds dre-ish with an eastcoast twist.

fred can bring that straight g-funk like he did on kurupt who ride with us or that live sound  on eastsidaz gang bang for real
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Post by: Alex_Wreck on February 17, 2002, 02:07:23 PM
Not to mention FRED WRECK'S funk like on Kokane - Raise Up, & Kurupt, Tray, & X - Fuck With Us, or that tight ass Get Your Walk On remix... then he'll get futuristic on your ass.

He is great
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Post by: TheShiznit227 on February 17, 2002, 03:23:27 PM
Scott Stroch...
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Post by: Big BpG on February 17, 2002, 03:41:25 PM
Do people consider scott storch a westcoast producer????

he's from philly if I remember right and he works with a bunch of rappers... and he's not really affiliated with Dogghouse... at least I dont think so...

I dont mind comparing the two producers, but it seemed like the comparison was due to the face they were "both" westcoast producers eventhough storch is from philly... i dont know... im whining...

-Big BpG
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Post by: Jome on February 18, 2002, 05:56:42 AM
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Do people consider scott storch a westcoast producer????

he's from philly if I remember right and he works with a bunch of rappers... and he's not really affiliated with Dogghouse... at least I dont think so...

I dont mind comparing the two producers, but it seemed like the comparison was due to the face they were "both" westcoast producers eventhough storch is from philly... i dont know... im whining...

-Big BpG


Nah, but they are both heavily Dre-influenced, so a comparison is fair. Not only influenced, their both proteges of Dre.

And Storch is heavily affiliated with Dogghouse, as Snoop use him pretty much. He's like a extented Dogghouse-member.
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on February 18, 2002, 06:06:13 AM
Fredwreck cause he is versatile and really funky


Fred Wreck: Dum Ditty Doo
                Pop Ya Collar
                On onsite
               


Scott Storch :Livin The life
                   Ready 2 ride
                   Y'all Gonna Miss me
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on February 18, 2002, 08:28:09 AM
no i know scott aint west, i just wondered whos beats ya was feelin more
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on February 18, 2002, 08:42:24 AM
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i hope ur kiddin,  i dunno know,  scott droped some hot shit on infamy an plus hes holdin it down for us white boys


I hope yur kidding actually, Fred Dropped some of tha hottest beats I heard since 2001 on Space Boogie and He's been droppin hot shit everywhere else.........Plus He's holding it down 4 us middle easterns..........

Scott's Shit's hot, dont get me wrong.........His work on Infamy waz Blazing.........But in tha long run Fred wins this one.
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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 18, 2002, 11:24:57 AM
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Plus He's holding it down 4 us middle easterns..........


Ain't tryin' to start shit again, but.. for real man, is that why you give him so much props.. ya know, cause he's the same race as you? 'Cause damn man, you said "Fuck Dre.....Fred's on anotha level".. that's just insane.. oh well.

I ain't dissin' Fred Wreck again.. I just still can't see what everybody's fascination with him is.. what has he done that's so revolutionary and amazing??
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Post by: Sikotic™ on February 18, 2002, 11:27:26 AM
Fred's shit on Space Boogie was the bomb. He's still one of my favorite producers out right now.
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Post by: Daz_the_Shanker on February 18, 2002, 11:52:51 AM
Scott's sound is a poor man's version of Dre's 2001 sound... which is frankly getting a little played out as of late. Even Dre will admit to this as he's preparing to flip the script again on Detox.

Fredwreck on the other hand is putting out records with a sound that we've never really heard before, with the Moog and shit. His production on Space Boogie is just un-fucking real in my opinion and blasted him past Battlecat and the other 2nd tier westcoast producers in one fell swoop. I can't wait to hear more Fred beats, but who knows when we'll hear them next. He only did one song on Nate's album and that was dope as fuck. Let's hope somehow he can put some shit down on Kurupt's next album, as their pairing was one of the dopest in recent memory.
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on February 18, 2002, 02:52:18 PM
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Ain't tryin' to start shit again, but.. for real man, is that why you give him so much props.. ya know, cause he's the same race as you? 'Cause damn man, you said "Fuck Dre.....Fred's on anotha level".. that's just insane.. oh well.

I ain't dissin' Fred Wreck again.. I just still can't see what everybody's fascination with him is.. what has he done that's so revolutionary and amazing??



Tha only reason I said dat waz because Tom said this:

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scott droped some hot shit on infamy an plus hes holdin it down for us white boys



And Wat Has Scott Storch done dats soooo Revolutionary?

And when I said Fuck Dre, I didnt really mean Fuck Dre, I said cuz people were sayin Fred is a Dre wannabe........dats all.

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Post by: Bosko-2G on February 18, 2002, 03:08:51 PM
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And Wat Has Scott Storch done dats soooo Revolutionary?





Actually, I never even said I liked Scott Storch better than Fred Wreck.
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Post by: DreSnoop00 on February 18, 2002, 03:25:55 PM
Fredwreck