West Coast Connection Forum

DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on February 06, 2002, 06:37:34 PM

Title: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 06, 2002, 06:37:34 PM
I don't know what it is, but when I listen to Snoop sometimes, I get to thinking about stuff. Whether it's his music, his life, his image, or if its just something with my life. Maybe school, my job, my friends... I'm always thinking about something. Well today I got to thinking about what it's like being a Snoop fan. I'm open about it... you can call me a fanatic, but really I just enjoy it. Some people go all out in sports or go all out careers. I'm an all out Snoop fan. There's not a person I know, that does not know I'm a Snoop fan. A lot of my friends are Hip Hop heads. They think Snoop is just a one hit wonder... I guess thats cause they didn't stick it out. Most of yall know... I didn't get into Snoop until he dropped "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told" ... a lot of people wonder... how could you get into Snoop from that album... I don't know, but I felt that album. Music basically took over my life a few years ago. Some of my most depressive times and music got me through it. My favorite quote from that time is from Snoop.

"stay true to what you do and don't be ashamed"

How true indeed. I used his music as therapy for my problems... some people run from problems, others seek real therapy... others write, do art... there are so many ways... I listened to Snoop.' I had no knowledge of his past work... Doggystyle and Doggfather were just ideas I would learn later.  

However what it comes down to is this.


SNOOP IS REAL

One of the realest in the game. Behind all the weed, behind all the women, behind the image is a soldier of words. People ask me...whats your favorite Snoop Dogg album...

Tha Last Meal

That's a dope album, probably my pick for album of the year, last year. I remember listening to "i can't swim" and thinking... people won't see what he's saying, people won't recognize the truth he spits. So I'll spit it for you.

Lemme tell you how it's gon' be
If I was broke loc, these bitches wouldn't want me
I'm tellin' you the good-god truth, you want proof?
Ask them hoes over there, "Y'all wanna fuck Snoop?" (yeah!)
We'll take the money and the game away, the fame away
I bet they won't say the same that day,


One of my favorite verses.  I like his other verse about the record execs as well. This song gets no respect. I guess because of the beat... Snoop is real

How about this verse from True Lies


And everybody happy for me - ain't that the truth?
That's a motherfuckin lie (fuck that fool)
Black folks stick together til we die, hmm
That'll be the day..


Anyone see how deep that is?  You gotta think... that verse right there is a problem spoken... yet Snoop gets no respect for that... snoop just smokes weed and sold out... yea... that'll be the day

What about Leave Me Alone?


I try to be to myself, and try to stay.. away from the world
But the world just keeps runnin after me (runnin after me)
I try to shield myself away from all the wickedness
but somehow, the wickedness is in my circle - what am I to do?


Yep, Snoop can sing too, however he gets nothing from this. Just Leave him alone.... nah, but the world just keeps running after him...

I'm a fan... I see this shit, I see these words and I think... yet he is percieved as un-intelligent. I laugh at the hate... because it's ignorance... its the truth...


I said let yo' mind not be confused
If you can walk this walk nigga take my shoes
You fools, these fools, new fools, all y'all
talkin bad about me, and my motherfuckin dawg


I don't know why I went on about this, I don't know how It got started, but the only way not to see, is not try to open your eyes... I know a few Snoop heads like me... it's not about the music... basically it's about the man... I remember reading about his murder trial and thinking, damn... what if i was in the situation... would i still push crip?  Hell No... it's obvious according to the case, that the trial was over self defense and thinking how Snoop could get life in jail over his own protection is deep. I respect my family, so when Snoop did, I just respected him more... the dogg speaks words only the deepest people can imagine. He may not speak large vocabulary, but he doesn't need to.... his words are overlooked anyway... i guess its the fan in me... I look into everything he spits and almost analize it...


And I'm here to change the rules cause I'm a player that loves to play
Did you thank the lord today?
Think I did and on that note young loc, I'm getting dose
Why you tell the truth?
Cause I'm hundred twenty proof from the turf to the roof
Bigg Snoop


-Big BpG






Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Crenshaw_blvd on February 06, 2002, 06:48:28 PM
When i listen snoop's music usually i smoke a lot of weed....
'Leave Me Alone is a perfect song when u are high.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Don Jacob on February 06, 2002, 08:36:24 PM
i feel ya on that big bpg, i'm glad that there actually exists TRUE snoop fans who are down with snoop not becuase of the image, the weed, or woman, but with some substancial reason why...i got more to say on this subject too but its late , i'll add more tommorow
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Dogg_Pound_Gangsta on February 06, 2002, 09:57:22 PM
i feel ya on this one bpg.  snoop does spit some real shit.  he is true and aint fakin.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: bLaDe on February 06, 2002, 10:02:17 PM
thaz coo man, i feel ya on that, snoop duz rap gud shit, meaninful shit, hes real, peace

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Crenshaw_blvd on February 06, 2002, 10:25:43 PM
I'm down with snoop too...and not for the "image thing",but 'cause i'm down with him since doggystyle/chronic..
i saw him on tour several times...i've read his book and after that i appreciate more this dude.
I still to love his music,ok...maybe he's not the best lyricist but for me will be forever at the top.
There aren't many rappers with the same snoop's status,
look at cats like jay-z or ja rule...they sell million copies but
they will never have a "fan base" like snoop!
For some people snoop is a fake...is no more a gangsta...bla bla bla,fuck that!
I will be always at the record store when a snoop's album drops...

"Martin Luther King's birthday is a symbolization, to me, of the turnaround and the change of my positivity and my rap within. It helps me to believe that I'm living his dream and...you know what I’m saying? I finally woke up and realized what his dream was about, and to be a part of his dream is putting positive songs on my album, being more of a role model, and trying to make a change and being more positive towards the kids--to what parents would want their kids to listen to my music--and that's the influence that Mr. King has on me as we speak," Snoop said."



Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Crenshaw_blvd on February 06, 2002, 10:35:24 PM
...maybe i'm the only one...but i think that BALLIN is tight as fuck!
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on February 07, 2002, 01:40:32 AM
That was some real shit you just said there Big BpG. You can tell your a real fan of the music, not alot of people care for the music/lyrics when listening to Snoop, I mean they hear them, but they don't listen. These are the fans too stuck on the image thing, but you can tell your mainly a fan of the music as you got into him through a totally different situation than most, you picked up on him through "The Game...", whereas most of us started on "Doggystyle" & "The Chronic". You say many people have asked how could you start on "The Game...", & the impression i'm getting is through the music, which is real.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: BigAdrianoDogg on February 07, 2002, 02:29:23 AM
Hey Big Bpg I fell ya homie....


Snoop On Top.....


Fuck tha haterz


I'm out
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 07, 2002, 04:23:57 AM
Most people wanna label me a dickrider... saying I love Snoop too much... whatever... A lot of folks are always looking for another Doggystyle, however when it comes to Snoop's rhymes, he didn't show the smarts and intelligence he does now... it's all music... and no matter how deep you wanna get into it... Snoop always has something to say...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on February 07, 2002, 05:24:04 AM
damn that was some deep shit you spit right there bpg! i feel u on that fo sho!!
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Jome on February 07, 2002, 06:46:49 AM
Yeah, good points there BPG.
Last meal was one of my favorites last year too.
Definately underrated.
Snoop's good at deeper meanings, you can listen to his album one year, and then a couple of years down the line you'll understand what he actually meant, or if you understood it the first time, you'll understand even more the next time. It's like he puts hidden messages and double meanings out on tracks, for fans to check out. Everybody point it out when Snoop say cars, bitches, money.. but no-one thinks much  about it when he comes through on some deep shit. And that's mah word.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: krazyk on February 07, 2002, 07:47:42 AM
yo Big BpG, i gotta give props to ya man, not only for what you said, but for also havin the link to this site on your website.  i came across your snoop website(great site, by the way) while searching the internet for snoop info, and you had a link for this forum, so i thought i'd check it out.  That was last september or so, and i've been coming to this site a lot since then.  And also, you represent Wisconsin, as do I.  This site has made me so much more informed about the rap game today, and i've been introduced to so many songs and albums through this site.  So thanks to you Big BpG as well as everyone else on this site.  As for snoop. i got much love for him.  I've been down with him since the days of doggystle, and have felt every album since then.  He is truly the realest in the rap game today, no matter what anyone says, and he is always expanding his horizons by collabing with all sorts of artists, and he was also one of the first to break all that west-east tension by collabing with a lot of east coast artists...peace
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 07, 2002, 08:15:28 AM
Quote
Most people wanna label me a dickrider... saying I love Snoop too much... whatever... A lot of folks are always looking for another Doggystyle, however when it comes to Snoop's rhymes, he didn't show the smarts and intelligence he does now... it's all music... and no matter how deep you wanna get into it... Snoop always has something to say...

-Big BpG
amen, shit dogg, u makin me cry , i don'T know why , maybe because everything u say is true or some , but i got this strange feeling reading your first post, dawmm  props dogg , keep your head up , fuck them hater , the one callin you a dickrider are them real haters
Title: [quote][/quoteRe: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: ExZit on February 07, 2002, 08:38:28 AM
tight bpg...
but i think the image is important..
i mean, snoop is real orginal! and got a really intresting personal life.. so i think the image is one of the things thats make me love his music..
i mean, his life is like a fuckin movie..

and tha last meal was a tight album lyricaly, but its very diffrent compared to his other shit.. cause he aint shoutin stuff like "suge can eat big fat dick" , he is sayin stuff more sensetive...



Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: PLANT on February 07, 2002, 08:53:21 AM
ive been postin on this board for about 2 or three months now and i have to say thats the best post i ever read...mad respect to you BPG...big ups on that, game recognize game
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: PLANT on February 07, 2002, 08:58:13 AM
" I understand that youngbloods need role models and heroes, but i have to ask myself-who died and made me the great black hope?  i'm a nigger from long beach, california, who's done a lot of things wrong and a couple things right.  So now, when i rap, i rap for one person-Snoop Dogg.  The nigger's been through a lot and he knows a thing or two, and iff you ask him, he'll tell you:
Increase the peace.
Spread the music.
Elevate and educate.
Word: it starts with you and me.

-Snoop Dogg, from the book THA DOGGFATHER
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 07, 2002, 09:36:30 AM
That quote from his book is one of the best quotes I ever read... the other quote from the book that i like is


I Tell The Truth and I Know What I'm Talking About.
Thats Why I'm A Threat


Snoop spits some real stuff and a lot of Westcoast fans dont see it. They look at the music too hard and wonder why it's not up to par with Doggystyle, but in it's own way it exceeds everything Doggystyle was and ever will be. I analyze Snoop's stuff like most people anazlyze what 2pac was. No one knew the impact 2pac had until he was finally gone. I look at the impact Snoop has now and wonder why no one sees it. I think when Snoop finally does leave us, the impact will show.

As for Slickk, keep your head up... I remember letting a tear go when I heard No Back Trackin... it was like a release or something. I'm a fan... always will be, I guess that's what seperates me from the rest.

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 07, 2002, 11:48:29 AM
Quote
I'm a fan... always will be, I guess that's what seperates me from the rest.

-Big BpG
well thats maybe why we understand ourself that good.. others can't really see whut we feel so they think we crazy and we dickride,,, all about misunderstood
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 07, 2002, 11:57:21 AM
Quote

well thats maybe why we understand ourself that good.. others can't really see whut we feel so they think we crazy and we dickride,,, all about misunderstood



I Don't Give A Fuck If I'm Misunderstood
- Snoop Dogg
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: The_Gmoney on February 07, 2002, 02:53:03 PM
You are right on BpG.  My favorite way to listen to Snoop is by myself with headphones.  No distractions that way, you can focus better on the music and what he's actually saying.  It always puts me in a good mood.  

I had a class last semester on the Bible, and for my final project I did a 14 page paper on Snoop Dogg, and the spirituality of his music.  I got an A too!
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Jome on February 07, 2002, 03:12:18 PM
Yeah, Snoop is better through headphones, cause he talks in the background in addition to the rap, and you'll miss a whole lot of details if you don't hear the adlibs in the background.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: PLANT on February 07, 2002, 04:17:17 PM
Quote



I Don't Give A Fuck If I'm Misunderstood
- Snoop Dogg

20 CRIP DONT SLIP, YEA ITS ALL 2 THA GOOD
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on February 07, 2002, 11:21:44 PM
Quote

Snoop spits some real stuff and a lot of Westcoast fans dont see it. They look at the music too hard and wonder why it's not up to par with Doggystyle, but in it's own way it exceeds everything Doggystyle was and ever will be. I analyze Snoop's stuff like most people anazlyze what 2pac was. No one knew the impact 2pac had until he was finally gone. I look at the impact Snoop has now and wonder why no one sees it. I think when Snoop finally does leave us, the impact will show.
-Big BpG


Snoop is a legend in this game, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Fashizzle on February 08, 2002, 04:14:25 AM
Yeah, Bigg BPG! I can feel you... Ya words be written by a true Snoop fan... A.G = All Good! The funny thing is dat I also got into Snoop Dogg alot more when "Da Game Is..." dropped! Dope!
Big the fuck up! Don't quit ya page man, PLEEZ!
O.N.E!
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Trauma-san on February 08, 2002, 04:45:44 AM
Sup, I thought i'd drop my wisdom on this, lol.  Snoop's true wisdom/intelligence isn't that he thinks deep, everybody thinks deep.  I do, you do, everyone does.  But Snoop has the NUTS to tell it like it is, he has the nuts to talk about it in his music.  Most people don't do that.. and usually Snoop doesn't.  Usually, he's on some party/gangsta/pimp stuff.  But everyonce in a while, he does something meaninful.  The last meal was full of it.  That was a good album, you're right, he was a lot better lyrically on it, it was deeper... especially "Yall Gon Miss Me".  That's not a statement to his 'deepness' though, everybody's that deep, he's just got the balls to make Real music about Real things.  He don't see the world any better or different than most guys his age, he just realizes that it's important, and something to talk about.

It's a shame, but Rap's really BEHIND in that department.  Rap features the most lyrics of any music genre (usually there's what, 100 lines or so per song, or more?)  Rock especially, and even country music has always been more real than Rap, even with only a dozen lines per song or so.  For me, when I was BPG's age, it was the Beatles that did it for me... like in 1967, The queen asked the Beatles to be part of a worldwide musical broadcast, to perform live.  Well, when the cameras cut on the beatles live in their studio @ Abbey Road, instead of the mop top "Hold my Hand" beatles, they were all sitting there with peace signs and flowers all around them, and performed their new song, live, "All You Need Is Love".

There's nothin' you can do that can't be done
Nothin' you can sing that can't be sung
Nothing you can say, but you can learn how to play the game...  it's easy

Nothing you can make that can't be made
No one you can save that can't be saved,
Nothing you can do, but you can learn how to be  you in time, it's easy

All you need is love, ... all you need is love... all you need is love, love, love is all you need.


At the end of the song, Paul screams "She loves you, yeah, yeah yeah... She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah" Making fun of their earlier stupid pop songs, and signifying that they were beginning to write REAL music, about REAL things.

Or take the band Our lady Peace, who's pretty big today.

Walked around my good intentions, and found that there were none
I blamed my father for the wasted years we hardly talked
I never thought I would forget this thing, then a phonecall made me realize 'i'm wrong'.
And If I don't make it, know that, I loved you all along
Just like sunny days that we've all become
We're all dumb and jaded, and I hope to god I figure out what's wrong


Or Garth Brooks, biggest country singer ever.

This ain't comin' from no prophet
Just an ordinary man
When I close my eyes I see
The way this world shall be
When we all walk hand in hand

When the last child cries for a crust of bread
When the last man dies for just words that he said
When there's shelter over the poorest head
We shall be free

When the last thing we notice is the color of skin
And the first thing we look for is the beauty within
When the skies and the oceans are clean again
Then we shall be free

We shall be free
We shall be free
Stand straight, walk proud
'Cause we shall be free
When we're free to love anyone we choose
When this world's big enough for all different views
When we all can worship from our own kind of pew
Then we shall be free
We shall be free


Or Kurt Cobain, who was my first girlfriend's saving grace.  She probably would have killed herself if it wasn't for his music.

I wish I was like you
Easily amused
Find my nest of salt
Everything is my fault
I'll take all the blame
Aqua seafoam shame
Sunburn with freezeburn
Choking on the ashes of her enemy
All alone is all we are


or

And I forget, just why I taste, oh yeah, I guess it makes me smile, She found it hard, it's hard to find.. oh well, whatever, nevermind

Geniusly written line about Cobain's drug addiction to heroin (tasting is when you inject heroin under your skin and don't mainline it), and then about how he later addicted his wife to heroin.

So, my point is, other genre's have been doing it forever, and i'm glad to see people like Snoop who make Rap a legitimate musical form.  
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 08, 2002, 05:05:33 AM
Definetly Trauma... I'm not trying to say Snoop is the only one that does it, and I'm not trying to make Snoop king for that either... it's just that he does say it and I respect him for that... so when people start to yell sellout and  commercial, I just laugh because they obviously don't see what  music is really about... it's not about flossing your stuff, it's about expressing your views, expressing ideas and Snoop is starting to do that and I respect his music a lot more now than I have ever...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Trauma-san on February 08, 2002, 05:08:43 AM
I agree, he's much more respectable now.  That takes more talent, In my opinion.  If he could ever mix his old flow, with his new lyrics, watch out.  He does sometimes.  
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 08, 2002, 04:41:24 PM
Quote
The funny thing is dat I also got into Snoop Dogg alot more when "Da Game Is..." dropped! Dope!
man, once again , i don'T know why people keep hatin on this album , it's dope, earlier today , i was bumping the # 7 , don't remember the name ,buta nicca came and say , shit is tight witch album is it
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Don Jacob on February 08, 2002, 06:47:08 PM
lol fucking trauma said everythig i was going to say ....lol i dunno i guess that's why i relate more to you the most on this board cuz we can see eye to eye musically


anyway to add to every thing big bpg said and trauma



it's not like we're saying this 'becuase we're rabid snoop dick riders'....just about every one whose cool with snoop in real life like kurupt have said that they look up to him spiritually  

snoop's real ,i'm not talking about being street gang bang shoot em up real, i'm talking about emotionally and spiritually real, even the realist rapper pac said this about snoop


if you ever watched snoop's diary on mtv he spit some real shit about life "growing old is cool", "it's cool to grow old, the older you get the wiser you grow and  you become spirtually better", man that some real shit


but at the same time like trauma said snoop's not some God or anything , he has deep thoughts like anyone else but has the balls to say it what's on his mind and incorperate them into his music



but what trauma hit right on the HEAD! was about rap's substance lyrically. Rap songs contain the most lyrics ot of any genre, yet (wether underground or mainstream) is more times than not shallow, over macho, sexist, or uninspired with just free association. Rock and Country have always been realer than rap, and is where rap needs to go, which snoop seems to be headed with his solo albums now, and what pac layed the blue print for.


just to add to the lyrics thing



Metallica "fade to black"

"life it seems , will fade away
drifting further every day
getting lost within myself
nothing matters no one else
i have lost the will to live
simply nothing more to give
there is nothing left for me
need the end to set me free"

c'mon who HASN'T felt like that, IMO tha's one of the most well crafted and lyrically deep songs i've seen in song format


i would say more but damn trauma said every thing i wanted to lol
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Trauma-san on February 08, 2002, 07:44:13 PM
Led Zeppelin - over the hills and far away

Many have I loved, many times been bitten
Many times I've gazed, along the open road

Many times i've lied, many times i've listened
Many times I've wondered how much their is to know

Many dreams come true, and some have silver linings
I Live for my dream, and a pocket full of gold

Mellow is the man that knows what he's been missin
Many Many men, can't see the open road

Many is a word that only leaves you guessin'
Guessin' bout a thing, you really ought to know
You really ought to know.


I think Snoop oughta cover that song, LOL... he could sing that as the hook, then rap verses about it.  That would be revolutionary.

Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Trauma-san on February 08, 2002, 07:44:59 PM
By the way, doesn't Hulk Look GANGSTA in that pic?  Im'a go work out.  LOL.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: LIL GUY on February 09, 2002, 11:07:25 AM
The last meal had the chance to be better than Doggystyle.  The words on the album are much deeper than Doggystyle.  The only thing that Tha last meal was missing was production and hooks.  If you listen to Doggystyle all the hooks are tight.  Snoop had someone singing all of the hooks on Doggystyle on Tha last meal Kokane fucked it all up(imo).  1 or 2 Kokane tracks are cool but he totally fucked up a few tracks and snoop knows it, Just look at all the singles, all those songs that kokane was snoop did not realese one with kokane on it.  But snoop is has been deep for a while now.  Too much Kokane and meech(all his beats sound the same)  whenever he is on someone else album his verse is always tight.   To those who say he fell off,  Well how do fall off when your last album sold 2million copies.  As a matter of fact all of his albums have went plat.( including muder was the case, and eastsidaz.)  So who fell off?...
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Jome on February 09, 2002, 11:53:26 AM
Quote
( including muder was the case, and eastsidaz.)  
Not the last Eastsidaz one, sadly.
>:(
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Maestro Minded on February 09, 2002, 02:02:47 PM
Quote

Not the last Eastsidaz one, sadly.
>:(

both eastsidaz albums went platinum...
-------------------------------------------------------

im probably one of the absolut biggest snoop fans over here, even though im not posting massive snoop-thread... hell .. i dont post many thrreads at all... i dont even make many posts...  but back to the subject... it's good that people starts recognize how good "the last meal" really was ... people just used to check them beats, but slepped @ the lyrics... they didnt  understand how i could say that "last meal" is a 4-4.5/5 album... .. snoop is deep ... probably the deepest rapper in the westcoast right now.. look at dre for example .. the only thing he raps about is to  fuck bitches, xzibit raps about smoking wed and drinkin alcohol, kurupt rappin about smackin niggaz .. .. ... snoop is the only of them with sum deep in the lyrics ... .. now im not sayin that kurupt, dre and X are bad rappers.. they're one of the best... but they're gangsta rappers... Snoop is not only a gangsta-rapper.. he also have sum mos def skillz
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Jome on February 09, 2002, 02:11:28 PM
Quote

both eastsidaz albums went platinum...
-------------------------------------------------------
im probably one of the absolut biggest snoop fans over here, even though im not posting massive snoop-thread... hell .. i dont post many thrreads at all... i dont even make many posts...  but back to the subject... it's good that people starts recognize how good "the last meal" really was ... people just used to check them beats, but slepped @ the lyrics... they didnt  understand how i could say that "last meal" is a 4-4.5/5 album... .. snoop is deep ... probably the deepest rapper in the westcoast right now.. look at dre for example .. the only thing he raps about is to  fuck bitches, xzibit raps about smoking wed and drinkin alcohol, kurupt rappin about smackin niggaz .. .. ... snoop is the only of them with sum deep in the lyrics ... .. now im not sayin that kurupt, dre and X are bad rappers.. they're one of the best... but they're gangsta rappers... Snoop is not only a gangsta-rapper.. he also have sum mos def skillz

Tha Eastsidaz - Duces & Trays
500 000
Tha Eastsidaz - Tha Eastsidaz
1 000 000

And that's from WC2K, I thrust their facts.

I think "Last Meal" is 4.5 of 5, and a strong one at that mark.
Dre/Kurupt are both on some fuck a bitch-shit, but you can't say that Xzibit doesn't get deep from time to time. Not as often as he used to, but I think "Man vs. Machine" will show the lyrical Xzibit. Also his first two CD's showed that he's pretty deep, and ain't to be fucked with lyrically. Snoop can get deep at times too, but he's also often on the fuck a bitch-tip.
But when he gets deep, you often gotta listen to it many times before you understand what he actually meant.

Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Maestro Minded on February 09, 2002, 02:14:35 PM
when did WC2K posted those numbers.... cuz they're  pretty  old .. and one thing .. to be certified platinum and to sell platinum aint the same thing .. i hope you know the difrence... ex: doggystyle is certified 4x, but have sold between 6-8x....
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: West Coast Veteran on February 09, 2002, 02:32:55 PM
SNOOP!
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 09, 2002, 03:44:24 PM
Quote
The last meal had the chance to be better than Doggystyle. ..
naww equal but no near better
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 09, 2002, 03:45:39 PM
Quote



im probably one of the absolut biggest snoop fans over here, even though im not posting massive snoop-thread...

say whut , ( dawm thats tight news, more fans expressing themself now  8)
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 09, 2002, 03:57:33 PM
Quote
ex: doggystyle is certified 4x, but have sold between 6-8x....
naww between 8-10 millions, by the way , the album didn't went platinum the first week , the source claim that the first emeniem lp was the first and only to hit this mark, but i didn't felt em (a bit more today) at this time... sure maybe it's over 10 millions by now , but on the first week and shit,  :-/ don't think so

here's the article from the source , for the new 5 mics mark...

not sure what we were smokin', but if today's rappers could drop a joint half as nice as doggystyle, hip hop would sound a whole lot better . Virtually every songs on snoop's debut is a classic ( gin and juice, ain't no fun , etc). Unfortunately, nobody makes music like this anymore. Not even snoop

shit not because i'm a bigg bigg fan of snoop dogg , but i think this quote is tight, it shows people how hip hop have change to the worst ( commercial) , plus the last sentence tells that even snoop doing some commercial shit , because thats the game now, hope it change now, hope that the blueprint and stillmatic mark a point in hip hop history as the albums who restart the great music or something...
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Ant on February 09, 2002, 04:34:23 PM
Quote



I Don't Give A Fuck If I'm Misunderstood
- Snoop Dogg



you should care if your misunderstood?

whats the value of and intelligent man in the world if he cant express his ideas in a way people can comprehend.

Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Nosak on February 09, 2002, 04:46:33 PM
hmm thats a snoop line and u gotta look on the context of it ...
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Trauma-san on February 09, 2002, 05:45:08 PM
I started thinkin' snoop was gonna be real since he said, "And it's drivin' the cops crazy, but ain't nothin' but a black thing, babbbbby"  LOL

Then when he did that verse on "Bitches ain't Sh*t" about how he was heartbroke about his girl cheatin' on him, I thought man, that's real...

Lil Ghetto Boy was all about the street trap

Tha Day Tha Niggaz Took Over was all about the Rodney King thing, of course, which was an interesting mature topic to touch, even though it was kind of an immature song.  Dope though.  

Stranded on Deathrow where he shouted out all his friends in jail, and the doggpound... All that stuff was real

I wonder why Ice Cube changed his mind and decided to stop being real?  
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: DreSnoop00 on February 09, 2002, 07:11:48 PM
yeah i've always liked snoop, not just because of his image, I guess a lot of people seem to hate on him just beause he got so big, they always like "snoop sux", but hes always been dropping tight real shit
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Big BpG on February 09, 2002, 09:24:02 PM
Quote



you should care if your misunderstood?

whats the value of and intelligent man in the world if he cant express his ideas in a way people can comprehend.



You're not seeing the context of that line... this is the whole line

"I moved out of the Hood like I should, then they had the nerve to call my Hollywood, I don't give a fuck if I'm misunderstoöd"

The point he is making is... he is doing whats best for himself and most importantly his wife and kids. He is too big for the hood now. The hood is where he is from, but not where he wants to stay and is definetly not a place you want to raise kids... you raise kids in the hood, you just raise more "thugs" and I remember a quote where they said a thug is a person who is unable to reach his goals due to the social pressure... now thats not a definition you'll find in a dictionary, but it's a way to think about hood-life... he wants the best for his kids, he wants them to be able to feel like they can do what they are capable of... he wont let his wife be publicized because she deserves her privacy, something Snoop has totally lost. So this is what he does, then people start hating on him, say he isn't real anymore... that he's not ghetto, saying he went HOLLYWOOD and sold out the hood.... they just don't understand. So I'll say it for Snoop this time.

HE DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF HE'S MISUNDERSTOOD

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Siberian_Wolf on February 09, 2002, 10:21:31 PM
Quote

I wonder why Ice Cube changed his mind and decided to stop being real?  


He was never real. That was an impersonation. THat motherfucker realised he had a gift of rappin and started to act like ayour regular homeboy from the streets. But once the real shit started to get thrown off the charts, he put away his mask and showed his real face - Don Mega, another mainstream fake ass motherfucker.

Everytime I listen to Lethal Injection I listen to a dead man's record... Cuz Ice Cube never exists any more.
Title: Re: Being a Snoop Fan ... or ... Not
Post by: Don Jacob on February 10, 2002, 07:07:38 AM
Quote


He was never real. That was an impersonation. THat motherfucker realised he had a gift of rappin and started to act like ayour regular homeboy from the streets. But once the real shit started to get thrown off the charts, he put away his mask and showed his real face - Don Mega, another mainstream fake ass motherfucker.

Everytime I listen to Lethal Injection I listen to a dead man's record... Cuz Ice Cube never exists any more.



damn...somebody's bitter