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1st Rappers
The Watts Prophets
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The Watts Prophets
Origin Watts, California
Years active 1967-[/[/i]b]present
Genre(s) Rap, Hip-hop, Jazz, Spoken word
Members Richard Dedeaux
Father Amde Hamilton (born Anthony Hamilton)
Otis O'Solomon
The Watts Prophets are a group of musicians and poets. Like their contemporaries, The Last Poets, the group combined elements of Jazz music and spoken word performance, making the trio one that is often seen as a forerunner of contemporary Hip hop music. Formed in 1967, the group is comprised of Richard Dedeaux, Father Amde Hamilton (born Anthony Hamilton), and Otis O'Solomon.
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History
Hamilton, O'Solomon, and Dedeaux first met and collaborated at the Watts Writers Workshop, an organization created by Budd Schulberg in the wake of the Watts Riots, as the African American civil rights movement was beginning to take a new cultural turn. Fusing music with Jazz and Funk roots with a rapid-fire, spoken word sound, they created a sound that gave them a considerable local following, but little commercial success. They released two albums, 1969's The Black Voices: On the Streets in Watts and 1971's Rappin' Black in a White World that established a strong tendency toward social commentary and a reputation for militancy. Despite considerable acclaim, the group was unable to secure another record deal; a promising deal with Bob Marley's Tuff Gong label famously fell through. Unable to sustain success, the group has performed only sporadically since the mid-1970s.
1st New York rappers
The Last Poets
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The Last Poets are a group of poets and musicians who arose from the late 1960s African American civil rights movement's black nationalist thread. Their name is taken from a poem by the South African revolutionary poet Keorapetse Kgositsile, who believed he was in the last era of poetry before guns would take over.
The Last Poets evolved out of a 1969 Harlem writers' workshop known as "East Wind." Jalal Mansur Nuriddin, Umar Bin Hassan, and Abiodun Oyewole, along with percussionist Nilaja, are generally considered the primary and core members of the group, as they appeared on the group's 1970 self-titled debut (contracted by noted Jimi Hendrix producer Alan Douglas) and, in various combinations, on subsequent releases. Other early East Wind alum, however -- Felipe Luciano, Gylan Kain, and David Nelson -- recorded separately as "The Original Last Poets," gaining some renown as the soundtrack artists for the 1971 film "Right On!".
Having reached top-10 charts success with their debut album, the Last Poets went on to release the follow-up, This Is Madness, without then-incarcerated Abiodun Oyewole, an album which featured more politically charged poetry and which resulted in the group being listed as part of the counter-intelligence program (founded by then-President Richard Nixon). Hassan left the group following This Is Madness, to be replaced by Sulieman El-Hadi in time for Chastisement (1972). The album introduced a sound the group called "jazzoetry", leaving behind the spare percussion of the previous albums in favor of a blending of jazz and funk instrumentation with poetry.
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eh i realy dont care where it started.It started in the west then what? WEtscoast is still not coming wiht enough good shit to claim the crown.
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doesnt matter where it started...all that matters is where it is...in the toilet
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"We all gotta have a place where we come from,
that place where we come from is called home.
Even though we may love this place that's on the map,
it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at."
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hiphop started in new-york, fool !
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spokens words dont mean hip hop u stupid ass bitch.shit started in new york. everybody know.
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For instance I know that many things come from california,specially LA(fashion & all kind of movements) so im not surprised at all but New York had its importance in the early 80's we can't deny that.
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lol @ the west always trying to show up there bigger an better brother.
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The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...
Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.
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Hip hop is the west coast
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The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...
Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.
schooly d started gangsta rap and he came from philly.... run-dmc made hip-hop commercial and there from queens. Last time i check both on the east coast
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The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...
Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.
schooly d started gangsta rap and he came from philly.... run-dmc made hip-hop commercial and there from queens. Last time i check both on the east coast
Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.
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Yeha i think tom iz active is right.
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So the fuck what?!!!!
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So the fuck what?!!!!
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well i wouldnt say new york started hip hop more like jamaica did but it just really took off in nyc
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dont care who started it. i know the westcoast got me started in it tho.
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dont care who started it. i know the westcoast got me started in it tho.
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Biography by Steve Huey
The West Coast's answer to the Last Poets, Watts Prophets didn't get quite the same recognition for their contributions to raising black consciousness and laying the foundations for rap. The group was formed at the Watts Writer's Workshop, an organization started by screenwriter Budd Schulberg designed to provide a creative outlet in the wake of the 1965 Watts riots. Father Amde Hamilton (an Ethiopian Orthodox priest, born Anthony Hamilton), Otis O'Solomon, and Richard Dedeaux met in the workshop circa 1967, and soon began performing together as Watts Prophets, setting their socially and politically conscious poetry to spare, often jazzy musical backing. They won second place in an inner-city talent show, which led to a residency at John Daniels' Maverick's Flat club in South Central L.A.; they also performed at fundraisers, in prisons, and around their community whenever possible. In 1969, Watts Prophets debuted with The Black Voices: On the Streets in Watts. Two years later, the group released Rappin' Black in a White World on ALA, with accompaniment by ex-Motown pianist DeeDee McNeil. The radical, incendiary tone of their work fit right in with the emerging black power movement, and attracted unfavorable notice from the government; the home of the Watts Writers Project was destroyed by fire in 1975 after having been infiltrated by an FBI informant. Record deals were hard to come by, and were continually falling through (including one with Bob Marley's home, Tuff Gong, that evaporated with Marley's premature death). Still, they remained sporadically active as performers, and were rediscovered by the hip-hop generation as their records were sampled frequently; additionally, O'Solomon's "Hey World" was covered by Ziggy Marley. In 1997, Watts Prophets released an album of new material with pianist Horace Tapscott, When the 90's Came, on Payday/ffrr, which also reissued their two original LPs. The Prophets remain dedicated community activists today, promoting creative self-expression and the arts to young people around Southern California and beyond.
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dont care who started it. i know the westcoast got me started in it tho.
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dont care who started it. i know the westcoast got me started in it tho.
And quit with the "east vs. west" stuff already. Shit is pointless.
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dont care who started it. i know the westcoast got me started in it tho.
And quit with the "east vs. west" stuff already. Shit is pointless.
How can THE TRUTH be pointless??????????????????
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Its not that its pointless the truth is a must but if people in the eats would say ok hip hop started in the west then wha? I think westcoast made gansgta rap famous thats for sure.
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As already stated, spoken word does not = hiphop, otherwise we should be crediting Bob Dylan with starting hiphop!
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As already stated, spoken word does not = hiphop, otherwise we should be crediting Bob Dylan with starting hiphop!
Fusing music with Jazz and Funk roots with a rapid-fire, spoken word sound, they created a sound that gave them a considerable local following, but little commercial success. They released two albums, 1969's The Black Voices: On the Streets in Watts and 1971's Rappin' Black in a White World that established a strong tendency toward social commentary and a reputation for militancy.
These niggas aint nothin like no square ass Bob Dylan PLUS they 1st single was even named RAPPIN' BLACK
NEW YORK CLAIMS THEY STARTED GRAFFITI WHEN ESES BEEN HITTIN UP WALLS IN BIG BLOCK AND OLD ENGLISH LETTERS SINCE THE 1930S
NEW YORK CLAIMS THEY STARTED BREAKDANCING POPPING AND LOCKING WHEN RERUN AND THE LOCKERS FROM THE WEST COAST BEEN DOING THAT SHIT SINCE THE 60S (DONT EVEN BRING UP SOUL TRAIN)
NEW YORK NIGGAS EVEN CLAIM THAT THEY INVENTED GANGSTER RAP.
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spokens words dont mean hip hop u stupid ass bitch.shit started in new york. everybody know.
rofl
was all that even necessary?