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Title: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Dynamic on May 15, 2006, 03:26:25 PM
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Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 15, 2006, 03:47:03 PM
Fuck no!
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: No Compute on May 15, 2006, 03:50:08 PM
ufo's yes but not aliens and all that malarky
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 15, 2006, 03:55:29 PM
idk, i find it hard to believe that in this huge galaxy humans can only be found on earth
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: QuietTruth on May 15, 2006, 05:19:52 PM
I don't know either but I do think theres something out there.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 15, 2006, 05:23:52 PM
We'd have to be selfish to believe that we're the only ones out there when space is ENDLESS...PeACe
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on May 15, 2006, 05:27:31 PM
i believe there is sum other life form out there...and i also believe in UFOs
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Trauma-san on May 15, 2006, 05:35:08 PM
Yes, I believe in UFO's and that there is intelligent life otherplaces in the universe.  I think most of the UFO sighting reports are bogus, though... but I do believe that some are true.  Our human minds are so small we can't even comprehend the enormity of space, there's no way we can understand the totality of saying there's no life anywhere else.  We're not smart enough to make that decision confidently. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 15, 2006, 05:59:35 PM
idk, i find it hard to believe that in this huge galaxy humans can only be found on earth

Of course. It would be kind of foolish to think there are no other life forms out there.

I don't think theyt have visited us on flying saucers and that they're green.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 15, 2006, 06:01:31 PM
idk, i find it hard to believe that in this huge galaxy humans can only be found on earth

Of course. It would be kind of foolish to think there are no other life forms out there.

I don't think theyt have visited us on flying saucers and that they're green.

yeah i agree with you the flying saucers and green men, is kind of stupid.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: QuietTruth on May 15, 2006, 06:04:14 PM
idk, i find it hard to believe that in this huge galaxy humans can only be found on earth

Of course. It would be kind of foolish to think there are no other life forms out there.

I don't think theyt have visited us on flying saucers and that they're green.

yeah i agree with you the flying saucers and green men, is kind of stupid.

Ya never know  ;)
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Word to Everything on May 15, 2006, 06:16:04 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 15, 2006, 07:04:21 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:



Not true at all...
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: J Bananas on May 15, 2006, 07:41:38 PM
how else do you explain the Xenu incident?
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: africas seed on May 15, 2006, 07:48:31 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:



Not true at all...

its true.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 15, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:



Not true at all...

its true.
They do conflict. Did Jesus die for the martians too?
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Eihtball on May 15, 2006, 08:10:21 PM
Yeah, UFO sightings were reported during the era of the Roman Empire, as well as Biblical times.  They're nothing new.  But considering that 99.9% of the photos are always of saucer-shaped ships that looking like frisbees or tinfoil-covered hats, I'm inclined to think most photos of UFOs are most def fake.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 16, 2006, 09:56:58 AM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:



Not true at all...

its true.


It's not true...Show me where it says that in the bible.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Word to Everything on May 16, 2006, 06:58:40 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:



Not true at all...

its true.


It's not true...Show me where it says that in the bible.

Adam and Eve
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: WestCoasta on May 16, 2006, 07:01:30 PM
aliens come allllllllllll the way to earth to visit farms in the middle of nowhere
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 16, 2006, 10:32:02 PM
ofcourse aliens exist.

the real question is:
was the human race developed by alien geneticists that mixed alien dna with indigenous creatures on earth in order to create a race of slaves?
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 16, 2006, 10:36:43 PM
You can't believe in Christianity/Judaism/Islam if you believe in UFO's  :nahnah:

sure you can.
both islam and judiasm simply affirm that there is a supreme creator that is worthy of all worship. 
there is a practice of interpretting adam and eve and genesis as allegorical within the jewish kaballah.  similar flexibility exists wiithin christian gnosticism and islamic sufism.

Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on May 16, 2006, 10:38:16 PM
ofcourse aliens exist.

the real question is:
was the human race developed by alien geneticists that mixed alien dna with indigenous creatures on earth in order to create a race of slaves?
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 16, 2006, 10:43:26 PM
alright.  first things first.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 16, 2006, 10:45:56 PM
They do conflict. Did Jesus die for the martians too?

a) that's one interpretation of jesus life.

b) do the martians even need a savior?  surely the martians would benefit from following the examply of christ's life.  but who is to say they need that?

Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Trauma-san on May 16, 2006, 11:15:59 PM
The bible clearly leaves room for aliens.  In Genesis, it talks about the first man, and then the first woman, then their sons.  Then their sons are having children with their wives.  Where did the women come from?  There's holes all in the book of Genesis that the Catholic church decided to remove whatever they didn't like... so we're left with a fragment of the original book.  Verses dealing with other life in the heavens could have easily been deleted.  The biblical account mentions Abel, then Cain, then Cain killing Abel.  That leaves Adam, Eve, and Abel, who's cast out and goes to live in another town.  What the f?  He goes to another town and marries, etc.... but where did everybody come from?  The book simply doesn't tell most of the story.  Nowhere does it say that the only place there is life is on earth. 

There's even mention of "Giants" with the literal translation of Giants meaning those who were cast out of the sky, i.e. alien visitors.  The bible talks about how the Giants slept with the women and all kinds of things before God decided to destroy the earth... insinuating that these alien visitors had came to earth and the women were having monstrous children, etc. in the chaos and turmoil that perpetuated the earth before it was destroyed by the flood.  It also says in the bible (I believe christ said it) that in the end times the earth shall be as the days of Noah were.... i.e., Christ is predicting the return of Aliens and such.

Of course that's all interpretation, but just as you say you can't believe in Aliens and be Christian, some Christians could say that the bible and Jesus Christ himself show the existance of Aliens. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: WestCoasta on May 16, 2006, 11:31:52 PM
The bible clearly leaves room for aliens.  In Genesis...

hahaha
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 16, 2006, 11:57:49 PM
The bible clearly leaves room for aliens.  In Genesis, it talks about the first man, and then the first woman, then their sons.  Then their sons are having children with their wives.  Where did the women come from?  There's holes all in the book of Genesis that the Catholic church decided to remove whatever they didn't like... so we're left with a fragment of the original book.

the catholic church was only able to shape and distort the new testament.  you can look at the jewish torah to see the old testament and what has changed.  that story is mostly intact.  other than that i agreee with you. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 17, 2006, 12:27:43 AM
The bible clearly leaves room for aliens.  In Genesis, it talks about the first man, and then the first woman, then their sons.  Then their sons are having children with their wives.  Where did the women come from?  There's holes all in the book of Genesis that the Catholic church decided to remove whatever they didn't like... so we're left with a fragment of the original book.

the catholic church was only able to shape and distort the new testament.  you can look at the jewish torah to see the old testament and what has changed.  that story is mostly intact.  other than that i agreee with you. 



^True...


Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on May 17, 2006, 10:03:13 AM
i have seen a UFO.
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Word to Everything on May 17, 2006, 12:05:10 PM
Only three of Adam's children (Cain, Abel, and Seth) are explicitly named in Genesis, although it does state that there were other sons and daughters as well (Genesis 5:4). In Jubilees, two daughters are named - Azûrâ being the first, and Awân, who was born after Seth, Cain, Abel, nine other sons, and Azûrâ. Jubilees goes on to state that Cain later married Awân and Seth married Azûrâ, thus, accounting for their descendants. However, according to Genesis Rabba and other later sources, either Cain had a twin sister, and Abel had two twin sisters, or Cain had a twin sister named Lebuda, and Abel a twin sister named Qelimath. In the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan, Cain's twin sister is named Luluwa, and Abel's twin sister is named Aklia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_eve


The girls get the Middle Eastern names  ;D


Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: Machiavelli on May 17, 2006, 01:02:35 PM
There has to be a supeior being. No way, the ENTIRE univerrse which is infinite just evolved from the big bang explosion. Where the big bang come from?


Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: 7even on May 17, 2006, 01:53:52 PM
There has to be a supeior being. No way, the ENTIRE univerrse which is infinite just evolved from the big bang explosion. Where the big bang come from?




Where the superior being come from?
Title: Re: Do you believe in UFOs?
Post by: nibs on May 17, 2006, 04:16:07 PM

Where the superior being come from?

the supreme creator self-exists by it's own will.  the supreme creator is the energy associated with existence.  without the supreme creator, there is nothing.