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Title: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Javier on May 16, 2006, 03:37:31 PM
I can't wait for this game 

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/mondo38/Arsenal_crest.png)

(http://infosoccer.com.ru/gifs/barcelona.gif)
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 16, 2006, 06:50:52 PM
u gonna get to see this one?
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Javier on May 16, 2006, 06:56:28 PM
Yeah, since it's going to be on ESPN2.  Basically, through the CL ESPN2 would only show one game everytime they played.  The other games were on ESPNDeportes, which Directv doesn't have  >:(
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 16, 2006, 06:59:26 PM
at least u get to see what probably will be the best game of the whole CL tournament.

not be looking forward to a CL final as much as this for a long time.

2 great attacking and gifted teams, should be quite a night.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Meho on May 17, 2006, 05:28:45 AM
Cant wait!

Hey, Mack 10, did Etoo said that shit about Henry and Larson becuase of the tonights game or becuase Henry is porbably going to Barca next year ?
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: africas seed on May 17, 2006, 09:10:39 AM
Barca will take it
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on May 17, 2006, 09:49:21 AM
Barca will take it
yup.

My prediction - 2-0 to barca
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: HD on May 17, 2006, 10:07:38 AM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/mondo38/Arsenal_crest.png)

fuck barca
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 17, 2006, 10:40:13 AM
Really looking forward to this, im expecting a great game !
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Gangstauu on May 17, 2006, 11:37:18 AM
i hope arsenal will win  :D
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 'EclipZe on May 17, 2006, 12:16:27 PM
FUCKING REF FUCKED THE GAME UP ALREADY.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 'EclipZe on May 17, 2006, 12:24:28 PM
FUCKING CAMPBELL OWNED BARCA
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on May 17, 2006, 12:43:29 PM
wow!!! was a entertaining first half!

ref shulda let the goal stand, and shuldnt have sent lehmann off!

great goal by big sol tho!

thing arsenal might be able to hang on...

Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 'EclipZe on May 17, 2006, 01:31:25 PM
well no wonder the table turned...
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Antonio_ on May 17, 2006, 01:47:50 PM
Barcelona.

Well i think it was deserved. Plus Barca is the better team. Props to Arsenal tho, they was been fantastic in their run.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on May 17, 2006, 01:50:17 PM
yea i think in the end  barca deserved it! woulda been alot dif if arsenal hadnt went a man down!
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 7even on May 17, 2006, 01:50:38 PM
I feel very sorry for arsenal. The ref shouldve let that goal by guili count and let arsenal continue with lehmann and pires
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 'EclipZe on May 17, 2006, 01:52:50 PM
they shouldve let bergkamp play :(
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on May 17, 2006, 01:54:12 PM
i dont really follow soccer but i had to watch this game

arsenal was ownin in the beginning, and i went out durin the half, and missed most of the 2nd 45, came back at like 81:00 and it was tied 1-1.

overall, it was an entertaining game, i wanted 2 see more ronaldinho & henry but i wasnt disappointed
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: BJV on May 17, 2006, 02:38:24 PM
Those referees ruined the whole evening.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Meho on May 17, 2006, 03:20:52 PM
Those referees ruined the whole evening.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Javier on May 17, 2006, 03:52:14 PM
Come on Henry, did you really need to have that reaction after the game?  The only reason your team got a goal was because of a dive  :P
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 17, 2006, 04:23:28 PM
Cant wait!

Hey, Mack 10, did Etoo said that shit about Henry and Larson becuase of the tonights game or becuase Henry is porbably going to Barca next year ?

he said it coz it's true.  :)
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 17, 2006, 04:25:09 PM
by the way this "the ref ruined the game" shit isn't gonna fly.

Arsenal had a better chance of defending a 0-0 with 10 men then they did getting anything from the game 1-0 down : FACT
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Javier on May 17, 2006, 04:28:39 PM


Arsenal had a better chance of defending a 0-0 with 10 men then they did getting anything from the game 1-0 down : FACT

lol word.  It was silly when the commentator from ESPN2 said that if Lehman remained as the GK those two goals wouldn't have went in...lol well then Guily would have already given Barca a 1-0 lead lol
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 17, 2006, 04:33:31 PM
LMAO @ "refs ruined the game".
I'm not defending the refs because they're from Norway, but you don't know the Football rules if you say that Lehmann shouldn't have been sent off..

I feel very sorry for arsenal. The ref shouldve let that goal by guili count and let arsenal continue with lehmann and pires

Naww, Guily looked to be in a offside position.. didn't see it from a good angle though..
Lehmann took down Eto'o as by far the last man.. the rules must be followed, you can't give somebody an advantage just because it will make the game more exciting.  ::)
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 17, 2006, 04:38:00 PM
the ref HAD to send him off, bottom line. what were they meant to do? play on, but guily is offside?  oh well freekick to arsenal.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Javier on May 17, 2006, 04:40:05 PM
The ref can't bend the rules lol.  This only works in WWE  :P
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Meho on May 18, 2006, 02:16:30 AM
Wenger is claiming that Etoo was in offisde when he scored, which he was (jsut saw it on Eurosport) and that Etoo was in offside when Lehman got a tred card(havent seen that yet). Henry also said that they were a better side when the game was 11 vs 11, which is kinda true.

Henry totally sold out the game. How could he have missed those shots in the 2nd minute and later on  :P

Im so happy for Larsson but feel bad for Berkamp.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: mauzip on May 18, 2006, 02:28:35 AM
the ref HAD to send him off, bottom line. what were they meant to do? play on, but guily is offside?  oh well freekick to arsenal.

Guily was behind the ball, so it wasn't offside.

That red card was more than fair.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Don Seer on May 18, 2006, 02:33:03 AM
eh? since when does being behind a ball affect the offside rule???

were there, or were there not two players opposing players beyond the ball.. ?
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 18, 2006, 02:40:55 AM
if guily was behind the line of eto'o when he played it round lehmann no matter who else was there then he is onside.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: ABN on May 18, 2006, 03:28:37 AM
Larsson had 2 great assists and this is what Henry had to say
"everybody´s talking about Ronaldinho but i didn´t even see him today, i saw Henkrik Larsson. He came in and changed the game and it was he who killed it. when y´all talking about Ronaldinho and Eto'o y´all should talk about the player who really made a difference, and tonight it was Henkrik Larsson"
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 7even on May 18, 2006, 03:54:05 AM
It's a common rule in soccer that you can let the game continue after a foul if it is in favor of the fouled team. Which was the case, since they shot a fucking goal.
Jome you're just talking shit because those norway niggas fucked up majorly.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: mauzip on May 18, 2006, 03:55:03 AM
eh? since when does being behind a ball affect the offside rule???

Guily was behind the ball when Eto'o played the ball, so it was not offside. Those are the rules ever since the offside rules got introduced.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: HD on May 18, 2006, 04:39:12 AM
fuck norway
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: eS El Duque on May 18, 2006, 05:05:35 AM
Barca!
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Antonio_ on May 18, 2006, 05:28:56 AM
The ref killed the match, that's a fact.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: ABN on May 18, 2006, 05:32:43 AM
The ref killed the match, that's a fact.
but people should blame Lehman just as much as they blame the ref. he should´ve read the situation a lot better and kept his arms in. we all know how easy it is to put the ball past a keeper like that and 99/100 the keeper will take you down without bein close to getting the ball.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Antonio_ on May 18, 2006, 05:38:36 AM
The ref killed the match, that's a fact.
but people should blame Lehman just as much as they blame the ref. he should´ve read the situation a lot better and kept his arms in. we all know how easy it is to put the ball past a keeper like that and 99/100 the keeper will take you down without bein close to getting the ball.

Maybe you misunderstood me, i was saying that it should have been 1-0 for Barca, instead Arsenal closed the first half in advantage, just absurd!
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: K.Dub on May 18, 2006, 06:38:32 AM
Those referees ruined the whole evening.

.., and he is Norwegian.. I'm ashamed on his behalf..
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 18, 2006, 07:12:56 AM
The ref killed the match, that's a fact.
but people should blame Lehman just as much as they blame the ref. he should´ve read the situation a lot better and kept his arms in. we all know how easy it is to put the ball past a keeper like that and 99/100 the keeper will take you down without bein close to getting the ball.

lehmann did what he had to do, as did the ref.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 07:25:19 AM
Jome you're just talking shit because those norway niggas fucked up majorly.

You're just mad because that German crackhead got sent off.
CLEAREST RED CARD I've seen this year, if anything, Lehmann killed the game.

The Ref did what he had to do.
Some times it seems like it's only Mac & Javi and a few others who know their Football in here.. :-\
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: mauzip on May 18, 2006, 07:28:52 AM
and me
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 7even on May 18, 2006, 07:34:51 AM
Jome you're just talking shit because those norway niggas fucked up majorly.

You're just mad because that German crackhead got sent off.
CLEAREST RED CARD I've seen this year, if anything, Lehmann killed the game.

The Ref did what he had to do.
Some times it seems like it's only Mac & Javi and a few others who know their Football in here.. :-\

Shut the fuck up, just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't know football, as my opinion is absolutely rational.
What he did was a red card, normally. BUT IF THE FOULED TEAM HAS AN ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU LET THE GAME GO ON THE REF DOESNT HAVE TO USE HIS WHISTLE. If you don't know that rule, then YOU don't know football. Barca shot a goal. So they had an advantage. Letting that goal count and not calling Lehmann for a foul is TOTALLY within the rules. Why else you think Barca players were pissed off? It would have been a red card if Barca didn't get that goal. But the did. So you can let that fucking goal count instead of the foul. THIS IS A RULE, not some crap Im pulling out of my ass.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: mauzip on May 18, 2006, 07:36:47 AM
Jome you're just talking shit because those norway niggas fucked up majorly.

You're just mad because that German crackhead got sent off.
CLEAREST RED CARD I've seen this year, if anything, Lehmann killed the game.

The Ref did what he had to do.
Some times it seems like it's only Mac & Javi and a few others who know their Football in here.. :-\

Shut the fuck up, just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't know football, as my opinion is absolutely rational.
What he did was a red card, normally. BUT IF THE FOULED TEAM HAS AN ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU LET THE GAME GO ON THE REF DOESNT HAVE TO USE HIS WHISTLE. If you don't know that rule, then YOU don't know football. Barca shot a goal. So they had an advantage. Letting that goal count and not calling Lehmann for a foul is TOTALLY within the rules. Why else you think Barca players were pissed off? It would have been a red card if Barca didn't get that goal. But the did. So you can let that fucking goal count instead of the foul. THIS IS A RULE, not some crap Im pulling out of my ass.

The ref could've given that red card after the goal was made.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 07:49:59 AM
Shut the fuck up, just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't know football, as my opinion is absolutely rational.
What he did was a red card, normally. BUT IF THE FOULED TEAM HAS AN ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU LET THE GAME GO ON THE REF DOESNT HAVE TO USE HIS WHISTLE. If you don't know that rule, then YOU don't know football. Barca shot a goal. So they had an advantage. Letting that goal count and not calling Lehmann for a foul is TOTALLY within the rules. Why else you think Barca players were pissed off? It would have been a red card if Barca didn't get that goal. But the did. So you can let that fucking goal count instead of the foul. THIS IS A RULE, not some crap Im pulling out of my ass.

Still convinced Guily was in a offside position, so there goes your whole theory.
You sound heated.. you must be mad nervous knowing that the nervewreck Lehmann will be keeping the German goal in World Cup.  :D

And like Mauz said, the ref could have given red card PLUS allowing the goal (if he wasn't offside).
Now, that would have been killing the game off, just be thankful that he did a wise decision.

I saw a poll in a online newspaper, asking "Was it right that Lehmann was sent off?", 69% answered yes, 31% no.
32.000 votes speaks for itself. (I bet mostly Arsenal fans answered no in that poll)

Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 7even on May 18, 2006, 07:56:22 AM
Shut the fuck up, just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't know football, as my opinion is absolutely rational.
What he did was a red card, normally. BUT IF THE FOULED TEAM HAS AN ADVANTAGE WHEN YOU LET THE GAME GO ON THE REF DOESNT HAVE TO USE HIS WHISTLE. If you don't know that rule, then YOU don't know football. Barca shot a goal. So they had an advantage. Letting that goal count and not calling Lehmann for a foul is TOTALLY within the rules. Why else you think Barca players were pissed off? It would have been a red card if Barca didn't get that goal. But the did. So you can let that fucking goal count instead of the foul. THIS IS A RULE, not some crap Im pulling out of my ass.

Still convinced Guily was in a offside position, so there goes your whole theory.
You sound heated.. you must be mad nervous knowing that the nervewreck Lehmann will be keeping the German goal in World Cup.  :D

And like Mauz said, the ref could have given red card PLUS allowing the goal (if he wasn't offside).
Now, that would have been killing the game off, just be thankful that he did a wise decision.

I saw a poll in a online newspaper, asking "Was it right that Lehmann was sent off?", 69% answered yes, 31% no.
32.000 votes speaks for itself. (I bet mostly Arsenal fans answered no in that poll)



If Guily was in an offside position, which I don't think, then I agree with what the ref did. That, however, is hypothetically speaking cause I don't think it was offside.
BTW, Barca's first goal was indeed offside, another crucial mistake by the refs.
Next, Im a Bayern-Fan, so I support Kahn... not so much of a Lehmann fan. Im pissed off cause I was keen on seeing a great CL finale, and it turned out as a piece of shit game because of the decisions the refs made.
I was heated because you implied I don't know shit about football, which was completely inadequate and sassy on your behalf.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 08:05:25 AM
BTW, Barca's first goal was indeed offside, another crucial mistake by the refs.
Next, Im a Bayern-Fan, so I support Kahn... not so much of Lehmann fan. Im pissed off cause I was keen on seeing a great CL finale, and it turned out as a piece of shit game because of the decisions the refs made.
I was heated because you implied I don't know shit about football, which was completely inadequate and sassy on your behalf.

1st goal in slow-motion & freezed frames, shows that it's a 50-50 situation.
The last Arse-player & the Barca-player is pretty much on the same line, Eto'o's chest/head might be in a offside position, but the rest of the body is on the same line, plus the Arse-players arm is closer to the goal than Eto'o is... 50/50 situation, and the rules say that if there's any doubt about the offside, then the game will continue.

Again you say that the refs ruined the game, but Lehmann did a red card tackle, Eboue was diving in a convincing manner that lead to a goal on the free-kick, and Deco & Ronaldinho also dived, so the players did more cheating to ruin the game, than the refs, imo, but then again you might be accustomed to diving and see it as part of the game.. ?

Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 08:10:05 AM
UEFA Communication Director William Gaillard: "The Red Card was absolutely correct according to the rules."
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: 7even on May 18, 2006, 08:10:51 AM
Calling for a free-kick when Eboue dived was also a crucial mistake by the refs. Of course players sometimes do nasty shit in order to win a game, but it's the duty of the refs to deal with that. Eboue should have gotten a yellow card instead of a free-kick. Seriously why do you defend them just cause they're from your country? Lol. It's not like they were crooked, they just did a bad job. Doesn't mean they are bad people, they just suck at doing their jobs.
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 08:16:25 AM
Calling for a free-kick when Eboue dived was also a crucial mistake by the refs. Of course players sometimes do nasty shit in order to win a game, but it's the duty of the refs to deal with that. Eboue should have gotten a yellow card instead of a free-kick.

I agree, but you know as well as me, that we both needed 2 replays in slow-motion to see it, it looked like a free-kick before we saw the replays.


Seriously why do you defend them just cause they're from your country? Lol. It's not like they were crooked, they just did a bad job. Doesn't mean they are bad people, they just suck at doing their jobs.

I'm not defending them because they're from my country, but because they did a good job, except on the Eboue-situation, and possibly on Henry's yellow card.
In todays game, it's impossible to do a flawless job with players diving, cheating, shirt pulling, etc. but they did right on the red card, and on Barca's goals, whereas the Arsenal goal should never have been, because of Eboue's diving..


Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Bomb-A® on May 18, 2006, 08:23:10 AM
he blew the whistle the moment lehman brought eto down...and thats the way it should be

when something like that happens you dont wait to see what's gonna happen...you blow ther whiste and pull the card out...it was the most obvious red i've seen in ages

playing the advantage is out of the question...there's no way the ref could let that offence go unpinished...to me, giving the goal was never an option

and imo (to my recollection) the ref only made 2 bad decisions in the entire game, henry's yellow card and the freekick that resulted in arsenal's goal.


btw, if i ever see andy gray i'm gonna knock his teeth in....he ruined a perfectly good game with his biased, childish comments...too bad we have to listen to lousy sky sports commenary all season  where the commentators can't get off the english clubs' nuts...and i was a neutral, i can only imagine what barca fans were thinking...i had half a mind to watch the game on mute



peace
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Jome on May 18, 2006, 08:25:13 AM
^^ On point. 1+
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 18, 2006, 09:06:06 AM
btw, if i ever see andy gray i'm gonna knock his teeth in....he ruined a perfectly good game with his biased, childish comments...too bad we have to listen to lousy sky sports commenary all season  where the commentators can't get off the english clubs' nuts...and i was a neutral, i can only imagine what barca fans were thinking...i had half a mind to watch the game on mute

what was he saying?

i was watchin a different channel
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Bomb-A® on May 19, 2006, 08:45:58 AM
^^ stuff like its 12 on 10 and the ref must be wearing a barca jersey inside....even when he complemented barca, he managed to twist it in a way that makes arsenal look good...fuckin cry baby...fuck him....he should stick to doing commentary on fifa games....there's no place for biased commentators in sports, esp when u know youre being watched by a worldwide audience



peace
Title: Re: Champions League Final- Barcelona vs Arsenal
Post by: Mac 10 † on May 19, 2006, 08:47:39 AM
^^ stuff like its 12 on 10 and the ref must be wearing a barca jersey inside....even when he complemented barca, he managed to twist it in a way that makes arsenal look good...fuckin cry baby...fuck him....he should stick to doing commentary on fifa games....there's no place for biased commentators in sports, esp when u know youre being watched by a worldwide audience



peace

I FUCKING HATE ANDY GRAY  "GOOD HIT"  SOMEONE MUST KILL HIM