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Title: Barry hits 714
Post by: rik on May 20, 2006, 01:33:15 PM
I don't really like this guy but he tied Ruth.
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on May 20, 2006, 01:43:40 PM
congrats to Barry
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Post by: herpes on May 20, 2006, 01:55:12 PM
the sad thing is it should be huge news but no one really cares and its a negative
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 20, 2006, 01:57:01 PM
Balco Barry
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Post by: BAY_BOY_408 on May 20, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
CONGRATS TO BARRY....I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE GAME :grumpy:
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Post by: Tha G In Deee on May 20, 2006, 05:50:11 PM
congrats to Barry
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Post by: T-Dub on May 20, 2006, 06:16:48 PM
congrats to Barry
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Post by: Mr. Nice Guy on May 20, 2006, 07:48:09 PM
You > Barry Bonds
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Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 20, 2006, 07:52:02 PM
what a disgrace to the Babe
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Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on May 20, 2006, 09:29:46 PM
Great Accomplishment by a Great player!! Congrats Barry you deserve it!!!
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Post by: Vegasmac25 on May 20, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
Barry Bonds is the fucking man in Baseball to bad the media killed his rep for being an ass to them.Congrats Barry.
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Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 20, 2006, 09:54:19 PM
the sad thing is it should be huge news but no one really cares and its a negative
Exactly. Props to Barry; fuck the haters.
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Post by: youngmessnucca on May 20, 2006, 10:05:52 PM
cant hate on him, congrats to Barry.
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Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on May 20, 2006, 10:41:22 PM
curse of the bambino part 2 (out of a 3 part series)


(http://primes.utm.edu/curios/includes/gifs/BabeRuth.jpg)
Title: Re: Barry hits 714
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on May 20, 2006, 10:43:16 PM
Not down with Barry Bonds congreats anyways i guess enjoy it while it lasts because either or both A- Rod or Albert Pujols will beat...my pick is Albert  he's a beast
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Post by: youngmessnucca on May 20, 2006, 11:07:38 PM
my pick is Albert  he's a beast

treu he could do it. whats the RBI record? I think he might have a better shot at that than passing Aaron ( or Barry )
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Post by: herpes on May 20, 2006, 11:25:20 PM
what a disgrace to the Babe
what a disgrace to baseball

Babe >>> Bonds
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Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 21, 2006, 02:17:58 AM
what a disgrace to the Babe
what a disgrace to baseball

Babe >>> Bonds

yup that's what i'm saying finally someone who agrees with me.
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Post by: Shallow on May 21, 2006, 08:08:04 AM
I don't really like this guy but he tied Ruth.


No one is ever going to really tie Ruth.



Ruth; 8399 at bats, and 714 Homeruns. Bonds right now has 9236 at bats and 714 Homeruns. Let's ignore the fact that the current Yankee stadium and many other stadiums are shorter than they were in Ruth's time and all the deep fly balls he hit would have been homeruns. Let's ignore the steroids. Let's just give Ruth 838 more at bats and see how far ahead he'd be of Bonds right now. At 8399 at bats Bonds had about 630 Homeruns, and if Ruth hit at his normal pace he'd have a alot more than 714. With 838 more at bats Babe should have hit about 70 more Homeruns at least, bringing him to 784. For the record Aaron had 12,364 at bats, so Bonds is a better long ball hitter than him but no one tops Ruth. Arod is the only one who has a chance to pass Ruth with equal ABs.
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Post by: Bigg $amo on May 21, 2006, 11:04:51 AM
props to barry  8) i think he wouldve done it even without steroids.only difference is his home runs wouldnt be as spectacular( they wouldnt end up in the 2nd or 3rd deck..)
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Post by: Machiavelli on May 21, 2006, 11:17:22 AM
I don't really like this guy but he tied Ruth.


No one is ever going to really tie Ruth.



Ruth; 8399 at bats, and 714 Homeruns. Bonds right now has 9236 at bats and 714 Homeruns. Let's ignore the fact that the current Yankee stadium and many other stadiums are shorter than they were in Ruth's time and all the deep fly balls he hit would have been homeruns. Let's ignore the steroids. Let's just give Ruth 838 more at bats and see how far ahead he'd be of Bonds right now. At 8399 at bats Bonds had about 630 Homeruns, and if Ruth hit at his normal pace he'd have a alot more than 714. With 838 more at bats Babe should have hit about 70 more Homeruns at least, bringing him to 784. For the record Aaron had 12,364 at bats, so Bonds is a better long ball hitter than him but no one tops Ruth. Arod is the only one who has a chance to pass Ruth with equal ABs.

Pichting is alot more advanced and is harder to hit a ball now then it was back then
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Post by: Shallow on May 21, 2006, 05:25:29 PM
I don't really like this guy but he tied Ruth.


No one is ever going to really tie Ruth.



Ruth; 8399 at bats, and 714 Homeruns. Bonds right now has 9236 at bats and 714 Homeruns. Let's ignore the fact that the current Yankee stadium and many other stadiums are shorter than they were in Ruth's time and all the deep fly balls he hit would have been homeruns. Let's ignore the steroids. Let's just give Ruth 838 more at bats and see how far ahead he'd be of Bonds right now. At 8399 at bats Bonds had about 630 Homeruns, and if Ruth hit at his normal pace he'd have a alot more than 714. With 838 more at bats Babe should have hit about 70 more Homeruns at least, bringing him to 784. For the record Aaron had 12,364 at bats, so Bonds is a better long ball hitter than him but no one tops Ruth. Arod is the only one who has a chance to pass Ruth with equal ABs.

Pichting is alot more advanced and is harder to hit a ball now then it was back then


No it isn't. If anything it's easier now. There are double the teams there were then and double the pitchers which made it harder to get on a team. Imagine today's MLB cut in half. Every team would have like 4 aces to start. The ball and bats were also worse back then and made it harder to hit long balls, and there was no other major sports in the same league as Baseball to take away the country's top athletes. Today they have the NBA and NFL to keep more kids from even playing baseball. The pitchers could throw between 85 and 95 then as they can now, and any new techniques invented since are cancelled out by the spit balls and grease balls of the old days. So the new level of athleticism if today is easily made up for by all the other factors. Nolan Ryan pitched as good in the 90s as he did in the 60s, and Mickey Mantle was there at that time who played with DiMaggio the decade before, who played with Gehrig, who played with Ruth, and no where do any of these guys claim the pitching got better. Ruth is the best player ever, and Mays, Cobb, and Mickey come close.
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Post by: herpes on May 21, 2006, 06:00:13 PM
also shallow dont forget to mention ruth played a good portion of his career in the what was considered the dead ball era.
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 21, 2006, 06:19:32 PM
LOL at "props Barry"

this guy is such a dick, and a cheater at that  :laugh:


it's hilarious if you live outside San Francisco and like this clown
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 21, 2006, 06:52:28 PM
Ruth is the best player ever, and Mays, Cobb, and Mickey come close.
it's so funny how this guy says this yet he never once saw these guys play
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Post by: herpes on May 21, 2006, 07:23:58 PM
props to barry  8) i think he wouldve done it even without steroids.only difference is his home runs wouldnt be as spectacular( they wouldnt end up in the 2nd or 3rd deck..)

without the juice he would of hit around 600, he wouldnt be anywhere close to ruth, he would probably be behind mays for that fact
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Post by: Shallow on May 21, 2006, 08:15:15 PM
also shallow dont forget to mention ruth played a good portion of his career in the what was considered the dead ball era.


I touched on it here;

The ball and bats were also worse back then and made it harder to hit long balls

But I didn't stress it because he was only a full time hitter for a season or two before the new ball was brought in. The main factor is that he was a pitcher (an amazing pitcher with his best season having 23 wins with a 1.75 ERA) for 4 full seasons before he switched to a full time batter. In 1918 he was a part time batter and part time pitcher and he had 13 wins as a pitcher with a 2.22 ERA, and as a batter he had a 300 avg and 11 homeruns with the dead ball. What a fucking player. Let's say with the good ball he could do 25 to 30 HRs a a year as a full time batter, he'd have another homeruns no problem.


To Victor Baron, while I've seen Mantle and Mays play on tapes, I know I can never see Ruth really play, but I have to go by written reports and numbers, and based on that no o ne touches Ruth. I used to think he was just a hype and had his skill hyped because he could sell but you can't hype numbers like his. So unless the numbers are made up I have to agree that he is the best ever.
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 21, 2006, 08:54:30 PM
To Victor Baron, while I've seen Mantle and Mays play on tapes, I know I can never see Ruth really play, but I have to go by written reports and numbers, and based on that no o ne touches Ruth. I used to think he was just a hype and had his skill hyped because he could sell but you can't hype numbers like his. So unless the numbers are made up I have to agree that he is the best ever.
okay, that's the shit I was lookin for

I just thought u were some weirdo who had a personal opinion on their play as if he witnessed it

I get ya now