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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: eNgIeS on February 02, 2002, 02:45:36 AM
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Hi sorry if the topic sounds confussing i had to squeze it in.
What I meant to ask was
Does an Artists personality, attitude & money status come into play when deciding whether to buy a cd or not?
If you dont understand this is what I mean. You walk into a store, see Jay-Z-The Blueprint, good cd, but say you got a burnt copy at home or you can get one easy, & because you either dont like Jay'z attitude or because he already sells & earns enuff you wont buy the cd.
See, I've had the new Warren G for months on burnt cd (it leaked like 2 months early), but after seeing how much of a good person Warren is (look how mature he acts, while Snoop is bitchin at the label that helped make him & dissin kurupt just coz of a business decision), how hard he works at making good music, after having his dope album slept on, Warren running out of $$$, I decided to buy his album today. Warren deserves it. I also lost my Regulate cd like a couple years back, i coppied it & then thought, nah, Warren deserves another sale on that Classic, so bought another copy.
Whereas I've had a burnt copy of Blueprint for a bout 3 weeks before its release, I saw it, & i was about to buy it, but then I remember how I aint got all that much money, how Jay Z sellin multi platnuims each year, making 100's of millions. Does he really need my $30 & support. NAH, I put that cd back on the shelf.
Does anyone else do this?
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i feel what youre sayin! but if i really like a cd, i buy it. i mean its not because i got an album on mp3 that i wouldnt buy it.. coz when youre on fast connection and you know where to go you can get all releases before they come out. so i get them but the ones i like i still go out and buy. first off its a different feeling of having a cd original than having it burnt, secondely when i like a cd i wanna support the artist. when its some1 like snoop whos rich, im not buyin coz i wanna give snoop some $$, its because i personally WANT the cd. so it depends.. but its not that i WOULDNT buy a cd coz that guy is rich you know.
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i feel what youre sayin! but if i really like a cd, i buy it. i mean its not because i got an album on mp3 that i wouldnt buy it.. coz when youre on fast connection and you know where to go you can get all releases before they come out. so i get them but the ones i like i still go out and buy. first off its a different feeling of having a cd original than having it burnt, secondely when i like a cd i wanna support the artist. when its some1 like snoop whos rich, im not buyin coz i wanna give snoop some $$, its because i personally WANT the cd. so it depends.. but its not that i WOULDNT buy a cd coz that guy is rich you know.
No Doubt, i feel u on that
I mean dont get me wrong, if the albums classic like pure classic not one of those cds people on forums say "This shit is classic" & then the next 3 months after that they aint bumpin that shit no more, i'm talkin about real classic shit, shit that sounds classic to my ears.
I went out & coped 2001
Eminem's cds were good but in my ears they werent classic so I just burnt that shit
You know what, I know its a bit late but I'ma go out & cop Prodigy's H.N.I.C. & other Mobb Deep cd's. Those guys are major slept on. There cds have gone gold & one got platinum but they deserve more, they kept it grimey & gutter. Sure, they may have featured on a few RNB tracks & there beats on infamy were more radio friendly, but they kept there lyrics grimey.
Prodigy is one of my favorite rappers, heck probably my favorite MC, & Havoc isnt no slutch either.
Its hard to find Mobb Deep shit over here, I saw P's on import for $45 but if i see it get down to like $30 i'll cop it. I've been lookin all over for Infamy, Murda Muzik, Hell On Earth & Infamous (Juvenile Hell SUCKS i aint copin that) but i think coz they old & Mobb have very few fans down here that its now hard to find that shit.
As soon as I find Cormega The Realness (heck, i may never down here) i'm coppin that.
See Mobb Deep & Cormega deserve my $30, they real & they keep it real & make good music too. Look at Nas (BTW, Stillmatic, GREAT, but overrated), he not livin the life at all. He talkin shit all the time, he talks the live Cormega lives. & Sure P aint no street gangsta, but he knows people & if he has his back up to the wall he will shoot.
People say Jay wrecked him, man Jigga held up a picture of a 10 year old P from 1982 dressed in a Michael Jackson circa 1980 custome coz his Grandma made him do it to advertise her dance studio. So what, I'm sure if you looked hard enuff you'd find a funny baby/kid pic of Jigga & every other person who has lived some type of street live in there time (Jigga was a drug dealer you know).
Man Jay dont stick to whats real, & whats real is he pulled that shit on the Summer Jam, something Mobb Deep is banned from. Why not pull that stunt at a show P was at like The Source awards, why not show up at Source awards when P'
s there. Nothing Jay-Z can say can kill that fact, & thats why Jay never responds to P's points.
P responed to Jigga's photo & shit, he aint run. Prodigy brings up the scared to show up to the Source awards point, or the point about Jigga not responding to DPG's NY NY diss & 2Pac's disses whereas Mobb Deep shot back at both DPG (La La with CNN) & 2Pac (Drop A Gem On Em, which no matter what yall 2Pac fans will say, wrecked 2Pac worse than Hit Em Up wrecked Mobb Deep). Nothing can take away that fact, Jay-Z's a PUSSY
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Well personally I like owning original copies, but if your asking what attracts me to buying the OG versions over burning/downloading them then it's basically what I find dope & who I want to support as artists with every release (such as Snoop/Dre/Pac etc). I usually d/l some songs from upcoming or released LPs to see if I enjoy music from underground & new artists to see if their music is dope enough to buy then I make the desicion whether to buy or just d/l tracks that I enjoy. I usually cop as much as I can afford cos I just enjoy not only the quality sound but the official art work & being able to read the credits etc. The attitude and personality of the artists counts as it either adds or subtracts to the quality of the music from that particular artist.
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i know what u sayin'.....but if i liked an artists personality that wouldn't necessarily mean i liked their music.....so for me i only buty a cd based on the quality of the music....if it's dope i don't give a fuck how much they earn....i like to buy original copiez whether they have a bad attitude towards fans and shit...the only burned album i have here at home is dr greatest hits - and thats cuz i have most of the songz already on dr artists albums!
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Like sometimes I buy it cause I feel what the artist is saying... or how he acts... like Warren's a good example... my friend wanted me to burn him a copy.... i said I wouldn't just because of Warrens troubles... so I bought another one for my friend... and I told him... if someone needs it, I'll buy em another one because it is that good of a cd...
-Big BpG
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Well personally I like owning original copies, but if your asking what attracts me to buying the OG versions over burning/downloading them then it's basically what I find dope & who I want to support as artists with every release (such as Snoop/Dre/Pac etc). I usually d/l some songs from upcoming or released LPs to see if I enjoy music from underground & new artists to see if their music is dope enough to buy then I make the desicion whether to buy or just d/l tracks that I enjoy. I usually cop as much as I can afford cos I just enjoy not only the quality sound but the official art work & being able to read the credits etc. The attitude and personality of the artists counts as it either adds or subtracts to the quality of the music from that particular artist.
I like having that stuff in my hands... yea i d/l it when its not available, but as soon as i can grab it, it's mine... i'm getting in this COLLECTING mode... i thank Axle for that... I just grab what I can and hopefully in a few years when you cant find that shit anymore... i'll still have it
-Big BpG
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No Doubt, i feel u on that
I mean dont get me wrong, if the albums classic like pure classic not one of those cds people on forums say "This shit is classic" & then the next 3 months after that they aint bumpin that shit no more, i'm talkin about real classic shit, shit that sounds classic to my ears.
I went out & coped 2001
Eminem's cds were good but in my ears they werent classic so I just burnt that shit
You know what, I know its a bit late but I'ma go out & cop Prodigy's H.N.I.C. & other Mobb Deep cd's. Those guys are major slept on. There cds have gone gold & one got platinum but they deserve more, they kept it grimey & gutter. Sure, they may have featured on a few RNB tracks & there beats on infamy were more radio friendly, but they kept there lyrics grimey.
Prodigy is one of my favorite rappers, heck probably my favorite MC, & Havoc isnt no slutch either.
Its hard to find Mobb Deep shit over here, I saw P's on import for $45 but if i see it get down to like $30 i'll cop it. I've been lookin all over for Infamy, Murda Muzik, Hell On Earth & Infamous (Juvenile Hell SUCKS i aint copin that) but i think coz they old & Mobb have very few fans down here that its now hard to find that shit.
As soon as I find Cormega The Realness (heck, i may never down here) i'm coppin that.
See Mobb Deep & Cormega deserve my $30, they real & they keep it real & make good music too. Look at Nas (BTW, Stillmatic, GREAT, but overrated), he not livin the life at all. He talkin shit all the time, he talks the live Cormega lives. & Sure P aint no street gangsta, but he knows people & if he has his back up to the wall he will shoot.
People say Jay wrecked him, man Jigga held up a picture of a 10 year old P from 1982 dressed in a Michael Jackson circa 1980 custome coz his Grandma made him do it to advertise her dance studio. So what, I'm sure if you looked hard enuff you'd find a funny baby/kid pic of Jigga & every other person who has lived some type of street live in there time (Jigga was a drug dealer you know).
Man Jay dont stick to whats real, & whats real is he pulled that shit on the Summer Jam, something Mobb Deep is banned from. Why not pull that stunt at a show P was at like The Source awards, why not show up at Source awards when P'
s there. Nothing Jay-Z can say can kill that fact, & thats why Jay never responds to P's points.
P responed to Jigga's photo & shit, he aint run. Prodigy brings up the scared to show up to the Source awards point, or the point about Jigga not responding to DPG's NY NY diss & 2Pac's disses whereas Mobb Deep shot back at both DPG (La La with CNN) & 2Pac (Drop A Gem On Em, which no matter what yall 2Pac fans will say, wrecked 2Pac worse than Hit Em Up wrecked Mobb Deep). Nothing can take away that fact, Jay-Z's a PUSSY
get mobb deep infamous FIRST....its near classic......and yeah mobb deep "drop a gem on em" was ill especially prodigy's verse....and it pisses me off that some people in here are pure gay-z dickriders man..its like a while ago i brought up a topic about mobb deep infamy album (its dope btw) and peeps like infinite50 were telling me to shut my face up cuz gay-z destroyed them or whatever....lmao thats BULLSHIT....mobb deep came back with "crawlin" and prodigy basically broke it down what gay-z said in "takeover" and so far i haven't heard a response from gay-z....its like too many peeps in here are just groupies....
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Hi sorry if the topic sounds confussing i had to squeze it in.
See, I've had the new Warren G for months on burnt cd (it leaked like 2 months early), but after seeing how much of a good person Warren is (look how mature he acts, while Snoop is bitchin at the label that helped make him & dissin kurupt just coz of a business decision
engies you couldn't of made yourself look more ignorant and hypocritical in your life...
1. dr. dre and the d.o.c made snoop dogg not suge knight
2. snoop never once dissed kurupt.....as a matter of fact it was the artist you dick ride the most daz who dissed kurupt, and snoop is only responding to the countless number of disses that he's recieved from deathrow for making his own 'business decision'...and daz makes fun of deathrow and 'bitches' at them far more immaturly and often then snoop
i ain't hating engies but that was the dumbest shit you ever said....quit being bitter
anyways back to the subject, i really only buy albums that i feel are good ...i hate jay-z but if he put out a good album i'd buy (like i did with blueprint i thought it was going to be tight so i decided to buy it, it was overrated but just becuase jay-z is overrated and so was the album it was still good and if you put out a good album you deserve to reap the rewards) i think if you buy an album based on an artist's attitude rather than for the music, i find that a little immature
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get mobb deep infamous FIRST....its near classic......and yeah mobb deep "drop a gem on em" was ill especially prodigy's verse....and it pisses me off that some people in here are pure gay-z dickriders man..its like a while ago i brought up a topic about mobb deep infamy album (its dope btw) and peeps like infinite50 were telling me to shut my face up cuz gay-z destroyed them or whatever....lmao thats BULLSHIT....mobb deep came back with "crawlin" and prodigy basically broke it down what gay-z said in "takeover" and so far i haven't heard a response from gay-z....its like too many peeps in here are just groupies....
I got infamous burnt & its pretty good, its like one of those cds u can listen to like once in a while but dont wanna bump it all the time IMO
Exactly, Mobb Deep killed 2Pac with Drop a Gem, & I know alot of people will argue with me there cause 2Pac is considered a hip hop god (I like Pac too) but its true, 2Pac said nothing important to Mobb Deep on Hit Em Up & songs that were unreleased at the time of his death, the infamous brought it real.
All Pac said they were small in statue. Hey Pac wasnt exaclty Goliath himself (he was built well thou) so he should have just shut the fuck up on that one. Then he talks about P's sickle cell. Thats all
P brought up the real on how 2Pac got 50,000 g's worth of gun clappin & how he rumored (I dont believe the rumor) got rocked in jail.
Infamy was a good album, nothing classic but it was good, & what P said in Crawlin was the truth, Jay Z is scared & thats why he didnt pull the stunt in front of him or confront him for real. He shook.
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engies you couldn't of made yourself look more ignorant and hypocritical in your life...
1. dr. dre and the d.o.c made snoop dogg not suge knight
2. snoop never once dissed kurupt.....as a matter of fact it was the artist you dick ride the most daz who dissed kurupt, and snoop is only responding to the countless number of disses that he's recieved from deathrow for making his own 'business decision'...and daz makes fun of deathrow and 'bitches' at them far more immaturly and often then snoop
i ain't hating engies but that was the dumbest shit you ever said....quit being bitter
anyways back to the subject, i really only buy albums that i feel are good ...i hate jay-z but if he put out a good album i'd buy (like i did with blueprint i thought it was going to be tight so i decided to buy it, it was overrated but just becuase jay-z is overrated and so was the album it was still good and if you put out a good album you deserve to reap the rewards) i think if you buy an album based on an artist's attitude rather than for the music, i find that a little immature
Hey you wanna come at me sidewayz aight then lets go, I aint got time for net beefs but if you ever coem down here or i go down to Bakersfield we can handle business.
1: Sure, I never said Suge totally made him, as I said if you read properly I said "helped make him". Snoop had his talent (& his hunger then) & that was the main ingredient, along with influence from DOC & production from Dre (& the ghost producers like Daz) but Suge promoted Snoop right, he marketed him right.
Suge knows how to do that shit, Dre is just starting to pick it up right at the moment. You may not like Suge as a person but you dont denie facts just coz he dission your favorite artist. If it wasnt for Suge Snoop would be in jail for that murder shit. Suge spent tons of money gettin Snoop out of trouble.
& Besides, Snoop dissed Suge first, dont denie it. Dont you remember 1997 Snoop dissed him on Dont Do The Crime. What the hell was that. What about the song "Death Row Is Bitchez" with Lil C Style that was done in 1997 & didnt get leaked until like a year or so back. That was on called for, Suge did heaps for him & Snoop only started talking why he was in jail. People always make out Suge started it, Snoop started it. Sure, if Snoop didnt start sayin shit they probably would have but still, Snoop started it & he aint innocent.
Sorry but your god is not perfect, he is a hypocrite & backstabber & I dont really like him as a person all that much. Sure he aint the devil but there enuff evidence to show he's a backstabber & is ungrateful.
Snoop talked shit while Suge is in jail & has said only said a few small things since he has been out. If Snoop wants to talk shit, why dont he show at the Source awards. Coz he was shook. Like Kid Rock says "It aint cocky if you back it up" Snoop aint backed it up
Now Suge tryin to get at Dre is different. Dre has never dissed Suge or done anything to Suge, yet Suge bullies him. Dre aint into gangsta shit so he aint gonna diss Suge. Now Dre is allowed to run coz he aint talked shit, whereas Snoop been talkin "Fucc Suge I'ma Death Row Killa" if you say shit like that Snoop dont fuckin run from Suge Knight then
Now onto point 2
2: Snoop didnt exactly diss but he be on the phone bitchin about Kurupt BUSINESS decision. I dont dick ride anyone, I just like Daz's beats & raps, so what, I aint said Daz is an angel heck I think Daz is fucked in head as a person. He is hypocritical & I dont like the way he lashed out at Kurupt too. I've seen Daz talk on his site & it just shows that he has smoked too much shit & he seems brain damaged. He is immature in alot of ways heck & I'm not sure if he would have turned out to the source awards to confront Suge, but I know he more real than Snoop is, & BTW, he still does good shit at what he does best, & that is gangsta beats & mad flow & hooks.
Snoop was good a flow & voice, he was great in 1992-1996 & then when Tha Dogg father came out he started his soft voice & weak flow crap & thou he has picked it up a bit more within the last few years it aint as good as it once was, were as Daz IMO has never fallin off
& I never said I dont buy coz of the music, but what I was sayin was sometimes I feel more inkliend to buy a cd if
a) The artist isnt makin much $$$/Sellin Much
b) The artist is a good person
c) both of the above
& you talk theorictically always, like you come professor, calling me immature, yet I think you are immature for your age in alot of ways.
Dont come at me side wayz again pal, I aint dissed you so dont diss me & everything will be Too Sweet
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Hey you wanna come at me sidewayz aight then lets go, I aint got time for net beefs but if you ever coem down here or i go down to Bakersfield we can handle business.
lol be my guest but you just proved MY point of your hypocricy..lol and i didn't come at you sideways.rude, agressivly or anything, you bad for taking it like an enema homie..lol mr. i don't take things on the net seriously
1: Sure, I never said Suge totally made him, as I said if you read properly I said "helped make him". Snoop had his talent (& his hunger then) & that was the main ingredient, along with influence from DOC & production from Dre (& the ghost producers like Daz) but Suge promoted Snoop right, he marketed him right.
first and foremost daz had little input from behind the boards on doggystyle and doggfood and i'm not hating suge here at all but it was INTERSCOPE and/or PRIORITY records were the ones promoting DR's album, suge was handling all the CEO , all the A&R folks from deathrow's distributers were the ones 'promoting' everything deathrow...not suge suge was the ones calling shots business wise on what pojects to do and ect. promoting snoop was something snoop owes to deathrows distributors if anything....take a music class homie that's how it ALWAYS works unless your independant
Suge knows how to do that shit, Dre is just starting to pick it up right at the moment. You may not like Suge as a person but you dont denie facts just coz he dission your favorite artist. If it wasnt for Suge Snoop would be in jail for that murder shit. Suge spent tons of money gettin Snoop out of trouble.
lol dre was half of deathrow back in the days, so ummm ::) ....and snoop is NOT my favorite artist i put Dre, Metallica, MJ, pac, xzibit , cube, hendrex, chillie peppers and loads of other above snoop...and AGAIN suge did help snoop with lawyer fees BUT Time Warner put up the majority of the money.....and those are the facts
& Besides, Snoop dissed Suge first, dont denie it. Dont you remember 1997 Snoop dissed him on Dont Do The Crime. What the hell was that. What about the song "Death Row Is Bitchez" with Lil C Style that was done in 1997 & didnt get leaked until like a year or so back. That was on called for, Suge did heaps for him & Snoop only started talking why he was in jail. People always make out Suge started it, Snoop started it. Sure, if Snoop didnt start sayin shit they probably would have but still, Snoop started it & he aint innocent.
snoop didn't have no reason?? lol....i got one word for ya royalties. And some added drama that went down in 1997 when snoop went to renogotiate his contract..the same drama that went down with dre and ruthless can be applied with snoop...and other added shit that we don't know about that also went down....snoop didn't diss for no reason
Sorry but your god is not perfect, he is a hypocrite & backstabber & I dont really like him as a person all that much. Sure he aint the devil but there enuff evidence to show he's a backstabber & is ungrateful.
if your talking about my musical god i don't know what Dr. Dre or Metallica did to you that has you so emotional and if your talking about my spiritual god [jesus christ] i'mma pray for you....and if your talking about snoop i'mma just laugh at you and all your comments about your god daz " i just wanna chill with daz in a drop top eating cheeseburgers in east LBC", if snoop is back stabber, what do you call daz for saying he was going to literally kill kurupt for going to deathrow? lol again thanks for displaying your hypocricy
Snoop talked shit while Suge is in jail & has said only said a few small things since he has been out. If Snoop wants to talk shit, why dont he show at the Source awards. Coz he was shook. Like Kid Rock says "It aint cocky if you back it up" Snoop aint backed it up
....ask ANYONE who went to the puff puff pass tour and they'll tell you what went down and what Snoop said and says live in every live concert ;)
Now onto point 2
2: Snoop didnt exactly diss but he be on the phone bitchin about Kurupt BUSINESS decision. I dont dick ride anyone, I just like Daz's beats & raps, so what, I aint said Daz is an angel heck I think Daz is fucked in head as a person. He is hypocritical & I dont like the way he lashed out at Kurupt too. I've seen Daz talk on his site & it just shows that he has smoked too much shit & he seems brain damaged. He is immature in alot of ways heck & I'm not sure if he would have turned out to the source awards to confront Suge, but I know he more real than Snoop is, & BTW, he still does good shit at what he does best, & that is gangsta beats & mad flow & hooks.
why are you making shit up now?? there was a post a while back were snoop said do what you gotta do ricardo , just stay safe.....and about daz, good for you if you like daz, but
just becuase daz is more gangster than snoop doesn't make him a good person or any better of a person....hell the LESS gangster you are the better you are. Being a gangster is more of a detrimint to a person than good thing, i never said snoop is god or snoop is an angel either, but i don't even ride him half or even .5% as much as you ride daz, i like snoop but you're just molding a false image of my taste of music and like i said there's alot of artists i like more than snoop....and daz's lyrics and flow are about as bad as snoop's are now....i'm could care less if you like daz more than snop but it's stupid how you tear down snoop so much then put daz on such a high platue...when in MANY ways they're on the exact same level... ::) and don't even deny that homie
Snoop was good a flow & voice, he was great in 1992-1996 & then when Tha Dogg father came out he started his soft voice & weak flow crap & thou he has picked it up a bit more within the last few years it aint as good as it once was, were as Daz IMO has never fallin off
that is a very bold statement becuase almost every head will diss agree and it is a proven fact that daz can't sufficiently produce unless he's got dre , quik, or mike dean looking over his shoulder, and yes ANY one who know a microbit about hip hop will tell you that daz has fallen off
& I never said I dont buy coz of the music, but what I was sayin was sometimes I feel more inkliend to buy a cd if
a) The artist isnt makin much $$$/Sellin Much
b) The artist is a good person
c) both of the abovewha
i never said that you didn't ....i was just saying i find it immature if you base your purchase upon some one 's personality rather than for the music... i never said you did this, you just took my shit wrong
& you talk theorictically always, like you come professor, calling me immature, yet I think you are immature for your age in alot of ways.
Dont come at me side wayz again pal, I aint dissed you so dont diss me & everything will be Too Sweet
i'm always talking theoretically like i'm a professor ...yet i'm immature for my age?? lol that don't make no scence ,that's the fastest contradiction i've ever heard in my life
i never came at you side ways, i was simply pointing out your ignorance .....if you know what that means (in most cases that not a diss it just means your talking about something you know little or nothing about) and your hypocricy...i wasn't dissing you and i'm sorry you took it the wrong way
now you claim that you don't take net beef seriously but you wanna go toe to toe with me in kangaroo land or down here in bakersfield all cuz i pointed out some constructive criticism about you......hypocritical
your going on and on about how snoop is bitch for doing this and suge did this and daz is great becuase of this and yadda yadda yadda. I ain't trying to say i'm any smarter than you but c'mon man you're only seeing things from the ways YOU want to see them when you talk ,i do that on occation too, but if and when people point it out i fucking use it as constructive criticism (yeah i was pissed when kurupt signed but then i looked at it from every angle and yes every one in the dpg have a right to be pissed but kurupt didn't do this to venge his homies and i saw it from that perspective also) but ever since i can remember all the way back from the dre forum it's always been your view or NO one's other view at all. and becuase of that you spew alot of ....ignorance
again i ain't hating NOR dissing you, i'm point shit out
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in kangaroo land
You say I'm ignorant & immature, yet your refer to my country, the country that is sending troops helping your country out with this terrorism thing, as Kangaroo land.
The perfect example of ignorance is Americans stereotyping countries. You call my home an island, Australia isnt even an island.
As far as the Kangaroo statement, get your head out of your ass & get your eyes off those Steve The Croc Hunter shows. I've seen like 5 kangaroo's in my life, in the Melbourne Zoo!!!. I've seen like heaps of snakes...like all but 3 of them were in the Zoo
Wanna get some other so called "Australians equal to America's cats & dogs". Gonna mention some Koala's or Wallabies?
You probably think all Aussies go "Throw a shrimp on barbee" or dress in the singlets, shorts & wear thongs (like maybve 5% of our population does that, & they are your equil to white trash, we call them Yobo's). You probably think all UK heads drink "tea" & talk like the Queen).
Get your head out of your ass you ignorant fuck.
Ok. Suge Knight got the money from Time Warner, without Suge Knight, would Time Warner have given the money, no, cause Snoop wouldn't be as big a star to be worth the money he was without Suge's promoting.
I didn't know about the Royalties in 1997. Fair enuff then, I was wrong & now I know ALL the facts.
Judging by your name i Assumed Snoop was you favorite artist.
You have your opinion, & sure the brain washed majority will say Snoop didnt fall off, but the real people I know who are into that G shit say how Snoop has fallen off since Doggfather, all the people who know the real say that shit, & I agree with that statement.
& Sure Daz maybe isnt as good as he used to, but he didnt fall off nearly as much as Snoop did in 1996.
& If you gotta problem with what I would like to do with Daz then go to hell I can decide what to do with my life. In fact it wasnt me who said he wanted to chill with Daz one day, it was best friend who just died & i swear if you fuckin say anything I will stop at nothing till i kill you. I swear to god you speak that way about Aaron & I will fuckin come to LA track you down & fuckin kill your fuckin ass, thats crossing the line from net shit to real shit pal! & it wont be just me either, I will guarantee I will bring everyone down with Aaron down & I will fuckin slice your throat. I swear to god. >:(
You say I'm a hypocrite, I just said Daz is fucked up in head, cant you read, so how am i being a hypocrite. its not like Daz said this shit long ago & i just changed my opinion on it. It just saw what Daz wrote & as soon as I read it i realized it was hypocritical for Daz to write about Kurupt like that.
I didnt make up shit Daz posted it on his msg board how he rang Snoop & talked to him about it.
I dont think being gangsta is good. But if Snoop aint a gangsta, how come he all in songs spittin shit about it. It aint cocky if you back it up, & Snoop aint back it up. He talks shit about Suge, but he cant back up that talk. Suge can.
I used to dick ride Daz, like 2-3 years ago on the Dre2001 board. I dont dick ride nobody now, I just appreciate Daz's music
You have your opinion, I have mine, I didnt come into the topic & criticize your opinions did i, about the Next Episode CDQ shit I didnt accuse you of lying did i. You came in & criticized me & were rude about it. You offended me, you cam at me sidewayz so dont talk like "I aint tryin to start nuttin" coz you did start shit pal.
Your the hypocrite for saying I'm ignorant & then saying a bunch of ignorant shit about my country. Fool you just lost most of the respect I even had for you when you said that dog.
When everyone else was talkin bout how you suposedly bullshit about the Next Episode & everything else you claim (like meeting Daz at yo record store) I aint neva dissed or doubted you, now you gonna talk shit on me now huh.
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Sorry if I sound angry but I am, I just dont like people coming at me like you did, calling me ignorant & a hypocrite. I'm still down
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I don't really get this topic ... but anyway ..
i only buy stuff i like .. i can afford to buy as many cds as i like now .. a few years ago i had no money and had no cds lol ...
i never burn stuff off the internet .. its would be to time consuming i think lol .. i only buy stuff when i like the artist for exsample snoop dogg .. or if i hear a really good song like "girls girls" by jay z .. i got the blueprint and then i got into jay z and got his other cds ..
As for their personality and stuff .. i'm not gonna go buy Warren G or whatever just coz hes not doing well to help him out .. if i don't like his stuff why should i buy his cds ?
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As for their personality and stuff .. i'm not gonna go buy Warren G or whatever just coz hes not doing well to help him out .. if i don't like his stuff why should i buy his cds ?
Thats not what I'm saying loc.
I'll try & explaiN & hopefully u'll get taht shit
Say you have $30 (Standard Aus price for cd), you see 2 albums you got burnt already & you like them equally as much & you cant decide which one to buy. One is by Snoop Doggy Dogg, but its a Death Row release with all the money going to Suge Knight & it has already sold say 2 million, then the other cd if by Warren G, who hasnt gone even gold with the album yet even thou the music is good enuff & Warren deserves more sales.
Remembering that you like these albums equally but you only have enough money to buy 1 cd, would the fact that Warren deserves more money & sales than he is getting & the fact that Suges making money off an other persons work & has sold way more copies than he deserves come into play with your decision?
I hope you got what I was sayin there otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes of my life.
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I got infamous burnt & its pretty good, its like one of those cds u can listen to like once in a while but dont wanna bump it all the time IMO
Exactly, Mobb Deep killed 2Pac with Drop a Gem, & I know alot of people will argue with me there cause 2Pac is considered a hip hop god (I like Pac too) but its true, 2Pac said nothing important to Mobb Deep on Hit Em Up & songs that were unreleased at the time of his death, the infamous brought it real.
All Pac said they were small in statue. Hey Pac wasnt exaclty Goliath himself (he was built well thyou) so he should have just shut the fuck up on that one. Then he talks about P's sickle cell. Thats all
P brought up the real on how 2Pac got 50,000 g's worth of gun clappin & how he rumored (I dont believe the rumor) got rocked in jail.
Infamy was a good album, nothing classic but it was good, & what P said in Crawlin was the truth, Jay Z is scared & thats why he didnt pull the stunt in front of him or confront him for real. He shook.
yeah mobb deep killed him but thats only because in "hit em up", pac was mostly dissing bad boy, mobb deep was mentioned only couple times...and prodigy in his last line of his verse..he said some shit like "40 G'z worth of gun clapping, NY gotcha, you probably screaming louder than a opera" TIGHHTTTTT HARD PUNCHLINE right there...ouch....and yeah i kinda don't understand why he keep calling them small when he was midget himself (like 5 feet 6)....anyways, mobb deep gets soooooooo fucking slept on by everybody when it comes to disses and albums.....mobb deep murdered gay-z espeically prodigy (again) and drop a gem on em, prodigy killed pac....i think that they don't get recongized since most of the time in the rap game..they never went commercial until recently....so its like peeps listen to pac and gay-z more since they did cross over to the main stream so they are more known and mobb deep is less famous than them so mobb deep NEVER get the props they deserve
on infamous.....listen to "eye 4 an eye" "qu hectic" .....CLASSIC shit
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yeah mobb deep killed him but thats only because in "hit em up", pac was mostly dissing bad boy, mobb deep was mentioned only couple times...and prodigy in his last line of his verse..he said some shit like "40 G'z worth of gun clapping, NY gotcha, you probably screaming louder than a opera" TIGHHTTTTT HARD PUNCHLINE right there...ouch....and yeah i kinda don't understand why he keep calling them small when he was midget himself (like 5 feet 6)....anyways, mobb deep gets soooooooo fucking slept on by everybody when it comes to disses and albums.....mobb deep murdered gay-z espeically prodigy (again) and drop a gem on em, prodigy killed pac....i think that they don't get recongized since most of the time in the rap game..they never went commercial until recently....so its like peeps listen to pac and gay-z more since they did cross over to the main stream so they are more known and mobb deep is less famous than them so mobb deep NEVER get the props they deserve
on infamous.....listen to "eye 4 an eye" "qu hectic" .....CLASSIC shit
as time goes by an eye for an eye we in this together son your beef is mine so as long as tha sun shines to light up tha sky we in this together your beef is mine. Tha infamous is a fuckin classic an any1 that disagrees needs to be chin checked. I though infamy was a good album better than a lot of stuff that comes out now a days. Tha 2 things u can knock it for are prodigy fell off an it more commercial than there older work. But havoc carried this album an production wise it good. An speakin of production that is suptin havoc has really gotten much credit for cuz he for tha most part always comes dope. An so what if they went commercial somewhat on this album an thats what it takes to push units now a days. And plus Loud records has been all on there dicks complaining about how they want more sales from mobb deep
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The motherfucking war iz on..... ;D ;D ;Dlol ;D ;D
Ontopic:
I don't wanna buy a cd from a artist with a fake identity, therefore I didn't buy Stillmatic allthough there's a couple of good ones on there.
Min0rity is really creative for calling Jigga Gay Z, shit that's never been done before, well done ::)
Underrated artist mentioned on here is:
Warren G (deserves all the sales possible, he takes his time to make good music)
Mobb Deep (Prodigy is still a tight rapper, and Havoc is VERY underrated, both as producer AND rapper. Infamy was more than just average.)
Cormega is also underrated and will probably finally get recognition on ROC-a-fella.
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Thats not what I'm saying loc.
I'll try & explaiN & hopefully u'll get taht shit
Remembering that you like these albums equally but you only have enough money to buy 1 cd, would the fact that Warren deserves more money & sales than he is getting & the fact that Suges making money off an other persons work & has sold way more copies than he deserves come into play with your decision?
I hope you got what I was sayin there otherwise I just wasted 5 minutes of my life.
Well i would usually be able to decide which i liked .. that kinda stuff has never entered my head ...
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Cormega is also underrated and will probably finally get recognition on ROC-a-fella.
cormega signed to roc, i hope not cuz i think his style would change. I guy like cormega will never make it to platnium statis (sp). 6-7 years ago yea cuz real shit sold now only pop shit sells. Tha realness is a hot album i have been bompin that a lot lately. On a major lable he would sell a lil more but not much more
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You say I'm ignorant & immature, yet your refer to my country, the country that is sending troops helping your country out with this terrorism thing, as Kangaroo land.
The perfect example of ignorance is Americans stereotyping countries. You call my home an island, Australia isnt even an island.
As far as the Kangaroo statement, get your head out of your ass & get your eyes off those Steve The Croc Hunter shows. I've seen like 5 kangaroo's in my life, in the Melbourne Zoo!!!. I've seen like heaps of snakes...like all but 3 of them were in the Zoo
Wanna get some other so called "Australians equal to America's cats & dogs". Gonna mention some Koala's or Wallabies?
You probably think all Aussies go "Throw a shrimp on barbee" or dress in the singlets, shorts & wear thongs (like maybve 5% of our population does that, & they are your equil to white trash, we call them Yobo's). You probably think all UK heads drink "tea" & talk like the Queen).
Get your head out of your ass you ignorant fuck.
calm the fuck down and get your head out of YOUR ass, i wasn't even dissing your ass, like it or not that's what your country is known for, if you called America bald eagle land i wouldn't get all pissed....dude man quit being a hypocrit, you say that you don't net shit seriously but what the fuck do you call what you just said? man the more you talk to more you proove my point right....and god's sake's man quit going off on tangents and blowing shit out of porportion
Ok. Suge Knight got the money from Time Warner, without Suge Knight, would Time Warner have given the money, no, cause Snoop wouldn't be as big a star to be worth the money he was without Suge's promoting.
no suge knight didn't get no money from time warner to help snoop out, what suge and time warner did was a seperate combination thing which they were obligated to do becuase that's THEIR artist ..doesn't matte if he's big or not, time warner paid for snoop beuase that's what lables do....arista did it for puffy, def jam did it for jy-z, that's what the lables behind the lables do....i'm not dissing you but this again prooves my point about your ignorance about something, again that's not a diss but it's so obvious you hold a vast unknowledge of how business in the music industry is run
Judging by your name i Assumed Snoop was you favorite artist.
that's your bad then huh, don't judge a book by it's cover homie.....i ain't about to call myself Big jake Tallica Tall, or Big Jake Paccy Pac....i've had this name since i was 8
You have your opinion, & sure the brain washed majority will say Snoop didnt fall off, but the real people I know who are into that G shit say how Snoop has fallen off since Doggfather, all the people who know the real say that shit, & I agree with that statement.
yes snoop has fallen off any one with a quarter of a brain knows this, but also the hip hop concious of the world also knows daz has fallen off just as hard....by you saying that you don't think daz has fallen off as much puts you in the same category as the snoop fans you love to belittle becuase they can't see/admit soop has fallen off....like metallica said "you know it's sad but true"
& Sure Daz maybe isnt as good as he used to, but he didnt fall off nearly as much as Snoop did in 1996.
read statement above homie
& If you gotta problem with what I would like to do with Daz then go to hell I can decide what to do with my life. In fact it wasnt me who said he wanted to chill with Daz one day, it was best friend who just died & i swear if you fuckin say anything I will stop at nothing till i kill you. I swear to god you speak that way about Aaron & I will fuckin come to LA track you down & fuckin kill your fuckin ass, thats crossing the line from net shit to real shit pal! & it wont be just me either, I will guarantee I will bring everyone down with Aaron down & I will fuckin slice your throat. I swear to god. >:(
first and formost i'm sorry about what happened to your friend, i was one of the first ones to pray for him when you announced he was in the hospital on his death bed, secondly NO you will not kill me...and even if you tried to i still wouldn't be scared becuase your just bluffing and i doubt that'd you'd be able to do that here in my surroundings, and if you did kill me i still would't care cuz i know where i'm goin' and with a cousin like mine you'd only find your own self dead.....please stop making scencless and childish death threats over the net and further proving me right about the obvious....and third YES YOU FUCKING DID SAY THAT SHIT ON THE DRE BOARD, AFTER I MET DAZ YOU SAID THAT SHIT AND EVERYONE CLOWNED YOU AND CALLED YOU GAY (hell i even defended you) DON'T EVEN DENY THIS....IF I HAVE TO SEARCH THE DRE BOADS ARCHIVES TO FIND THIS I WILL AND ANY ONEWHO WAS AT THE DRE BAORD WILL TESTIFY TO THIS
You say I'm a hypocrite, I just said Daz is fucked up in head, cant you read, so how am i being a hypocrite. its not like Daz said this shit long ago & i just changed my opinion on it. It just saw what Daz wrote & as soon as I read it i realized it was hypocritical for Daz to write about Kurupt like that.
if you read my post you'd know what I meant by why your' a hypocrit....hell you can even read this one and your own to see why
I didnt make up shit Daz posted it on his msg board how he rang Snoop & talked to him about it.
Daz says alot of shit that is bogus on that site so it's hard to distinguish what's the truth and what's fake, "daz" disses snoop to the heavins on that board but yet he still calls him up ??? somethings fishy there.....and from every thing i've heard snoop's STILL great friends with kurupt and wisheshim all the luck (and this can be prooved), but why should you diss him..even if he is mad? Snoop has every right in the world to be mad as well as daz, wether kurupt knows this or not i's going to make things a lot difficult when snoop and daz want to work with kurupt ....becuase suge going to be there in between shit and that's something neither daz nor snoop wants....
I dont think being gangsta is good. But if Snoop aint a gangsta, how come he all in songs spittin shit about it. It aint cocky if you back it up, & Snoop aint back it up. He talks shit about Suge, but he cant back up that talk. Suge can.
like i said homie snoop not any better for claiming that gang shit but at least he's trying to get his people OFF the streets....and about suge ...i don't exactly see daz backing anything up, and how ironic is this.....you're using kid rock's definiton of cocky when kid rock is cool and supports snoop 100% lol like Alanis Morisette said "and isn't it ironic, don't you think?" LMAO
I used to dick ride Daz, like 2-3 years ago on the Dre2001 board. I dont dick ride nobody now, I just appreciate Daz's music
You have your opinion, I have mine, I didnt come into the topic & criticize your opinions did i, about the Next Episode CDQ shit I didnt accuse you of lying did i. You came in & criticized me & were rude about it. You offended me, you cam at me sidewayz so dont talk like "I aint tryin to start nuttin" coz you did start shit pal.
good i'm glad your over our obsesion, and yes you have critisized me about my Next Episode CDQ, you basically said i was lying unless i prooved it. that's about as equal to what i said about you, i wasn't dissing you personaly i was just making a comment...jesus christ i guess you're sensitive , i just won't give you contructive criticism any more if it hurts your feelings that bad.
[quoteYour the hypocrite for saying I'm ignorant & then saying a bunch of ignorant shit about my country. Fool you just lost most of the respect I even had for you when you said that dog.
When everyone else was talkin bout how you suposedly bullshit about the Next Episode & everything else you claim (like meeting Daz at yo record store) I aint neva dissed or doubted you, now you gonna talk shit on me now huh.[/quote]
1. it was contructive criticism...get over it, i wasn't dissin you personally
2 i never dissed your country , Kangaroo land is the equiviant of saying bald eagle land....that ain't a diss it's just a nick name...again quit being so sensitive. your the one who dissed me first with all that "i'mma beat you up" BS, get real homie
3. you've always doubted me about the next episode as well as every one else...i'mma proove y'all wrong too and if you want me to call you collect so i can proove it i'll do it, i met daz i got his sig and if you wanna ask 'him' at his site go ahead....i live in CALIFORNIA we run a chace of meeting people
4. if you lost respect for me all because of something you blew out of porportion and took the wrong way....so be it u can go ahead and be MC eiht and i'll be DJ Quik (this situation is so identical i'm actually laughing as i type) so be it......except i ain't going to say "i don' take things on the net personal" then turn around and make a death threat ......
if you want to argue with me some more go ahead keep proving all my aligations right ;)...peace
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holy shit, its heated in here, and damn theres long ass posts in here,lizol
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Mobb Deep wrecked Pac? lol I aint one of the millions and millions of pac dick rydaz or thug wannabe But I got to tell u that 'Entertainly' 2 pac killed Mobb Deep Even if I respect the rest of ur opinion
Peace
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Mobb Deep wrecked Pac? lol I aint one of the millions and millions of pac dick rydaz or thug wannabe But I got to tell u that 'Entertainly' 2 pac killed Mobb Deep Even if I respect the rest of ur opinion
Peace
I waitin for someone to post this.
Now, time for the proof god
Lines directed to Mobb Deep from 2Pac
"Oh yeah, Mobb Deep, you wanna fuck with us?
You little young-ass motherfuckers
Don't one of you niggaz got sickle cell or somethin?
You fuckin with me nigga you fuck around
and have a seizure or a heart-attack
You better back the fuck up, 'fore you get smacked the fuck up
That's how we do it on our side"
"Lookin out for Mobb Deep, nigga when I find you
Weak motherfuckers don't deserve to breathe
How many niggaz down to die for me? Yeahh-yeayy!"
"Mobb Deep wonder why nigga blowed them out
Next time grown folks talk, nigga close your mouth
Peep me, I take this war shit deeply
Done seen too many real players fall to let these bitch niggas beat me"
"and Mobb Deep, fuck you too nigga!
If a nigga didn't want to get talked about
he shouldn'ta stepped in the fuckin ring
If Tyson don't want to get knocked out
he don't step in the fuckin ring, that's how the shit go
When Tyson get in the ring, he knock motherfuckers out!
Well that's what Tupac gon' do
When niggaz come against me, I'ma knock they punk ass out!
One way or the motherfuckin other
This old motherfuckin nigga in the South told me nigga
It's more than one way to skin a cat
It's more than one way to shoot a gat
It's more than one way to die nigga
When I'm through, everybody cry nigga
This is how we do it"
So all 2Pac said about Mobb Deep was how they shouldnt have said "Thug Life we still livin it" on Suvival of the Fittest, made fun of there small statue (yes, & we all know 2Pac was a giant among men ::)) & made fun of P's sickle cell disease. Wow
Now, lets go onto Drop a Gem On Em....SON
"Verse One: Havoc
Take a tire, all these fake crooks need to retire
they gotcha gassed, takin back and snatch fire outcha
maggot ass, Havoc represent for the Q-B-C
smoke that ass like a lucie..tho I need to quit
fuck it, I love it like a cloud
over the projects your game Im above it
its combat, gats bangers and all that
you'se a small cat, whatever you on get off that
I mention, nuthin but the real shit presentin
the hollow tip crew 41st side convention
try for? you half-steppin
like a fresh tec out of the box
yo niggas I'm testin
(There's no question)
bitch ass have you confessin
like a D-T left in state of depression
you under pressure, intact no doubt catcher
the snitch-snatcher tookin wit asthma
you casper, you yell my name
thats only givin me props
plus the fans that you got, wonderin whats got you hot
its two - noaught, knocked out the box and got rocked
got raped on the Island, you officially got
kick that thug shit, Vibe magazine on some love shit
(keep it real kid, you don't know who you fuckin wit)"
"Verse Two: Prodigy
Yeah likewise, Im tired of rap guys whose faggots
pure shuteye, and swole up your whole outside
I baptize, niggas get wet, put up your backside
your claptized and set straight, put on your head straight
watch out for,
these upstate cats be leary of you
yeddy niggas wit gats plus the walls on they backs
Rikers Island flashback of the house you got scuffed it in
you would think you gettin your head shot was enough but then
Now you wanna got at my team,
you must of been drunk when you wrote that shit
too bad you had to did it to your own self
my rebellion, I retaliate, I had the whole New York state
aimin at your face
at the gate, bottom line of top soon as you came through
shot through, don't even know the half of my crew
I got a hundred strong arm niggas ready to rock the shit
clocks tick, your days are numbered in low digits
you look suspicious, suspect niggas is bitches
get chppoed up, Grade A meat, somethin delicious
and laced back up, 2 G's, one for stitches
then reconstruct your face and learn how to speak again
my Mobb's like a bunch of wild Puerto Ricans
wit bangers the size of African spears
it's warfare in the arena, you turn arenas into house of horrors
its terrodome, when you see my click you need to run behind shit
you gotta gat you betta find it
and use that shit think fast and get reminded
of robberies in Manhattan you knew what happened
60 g's worth of gun clappin
Who Shot Ya? You'd probably scream louder than an opera
New York gotcha, now you wanna use my mob as a crutch
what makes you think you cant get bucked again
Once again,"
Not only was the verses better than any shit Pac said, they got 2Pac on the fact he got 60 g's worth of gun clappin, went to jail & (rumor I still dont believe) got raped in jail, how he was all in Vibe magazine while in jail sayin how he cant live Thug Life anymore & how he changed & then he changes his mind when he gets out of jail.
Real heads know who beat who in that beef, no question it was Mobb Deep, they fucked up anything Pac coulda said with that song. If Pac was alive the only retaliation for that song would have been to take it beyond rap but thats all he could do.
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calm the fuck down and get your head out of YOUR ass, i wasn't even dissing your ass, like it or not that's what your country is known for, if you called America bald eagle land i wouldn't get all pissed....dude man quit being a hypocrit, you say that you don't net shit seriously but what the fuck do you call what you just said? man the more you talk to more you proove my point right....and god's sake's man quit going off on tangents and blowing shit out of porportion
no suge knight didn't get no money from time warner to help snoop out, what suge and time warner did was a seperate combination thing which they were obligated to do becuase that's THEIR artist ..doesn't matte if he's big or not, time warner paid for snoop beuase that's what lables do....arista did it for puffy, def jam did it for jy-z, that's what the lables behind the lables do....i'm not dissing you but this again prooves my point about your ignorance about something, again that's not a diss but it's so obvious you hold a vast unknowledge of how business in the music industry is run
that's your bad then huh, don't judge a book by it's cover homie.....i ain't about to call myself Big jake Tallica Tall, or Big Jake Paccy Pac....i've had this name since i was 8
yes snoop has fallen off any one with a quarter of a brain knows this, but also the hip hop concious of the world also knows daz has fallen off just as hard....by you saying that you don't think daz has fallen off as much puts you in the same category as the snoop fans you love to belittle becuase they can't see/admit soop has fallen off....like metallica said "you know it's sad but true"
read statement above homie
first and formost i'm sorry about what happened to your friend, i was one of the first ones to pray for him when you announced he was in the hospital on his death bed, secondly NO you will not kill me...and even if you tried to i still wouldn't be scared becuase your just bluffing and i doubt that'd you'd be able to do that here in my surroundings, and if you did kill me i still would't care cuz i know where i'm goin' and with a cousin like mine you'd only find your own self dead.....please stop making scencless and childish death threats over the net and further proving me right about the obvious....and third YES YOU FUCKING DID SAY THAT SHIT ON THE DRE BOARD, AFTER I MET DAZ YOU SAID THAT SHIT AND EVERYONE CLOWNED YOU AND CALLED YOU GAY (hell i even defended you) DON'T EVEN DENY THIS....IF I HAVE TO SEARCH THE DRE BOADS ARCHIVES TO FIND THIS I WILL AND ANY ONEWHO WAS AT THE DRE BAORD WILL TESTIFY TO THIS
if you read my post you'd know what I meant by why your' a hypocrit....hell you can even read this one and your own to see why
Daz says alot of shit that is bogus on that site so it's hard to distinguish what's the truth and what's fake, "daz" disses snoop to the heavins on that board but yet he still calls him up ??? somethings fishy there.....and from every thing i've heard snoop's STILL great friends with kurupt and wisheshim all the luck (and this can be prooved), but why should you diss him..even if he is mad? Snoop has every right in the world to be mad as well as daz, wether kurupt knows this or not i's going to make things a lot difficult when snoop and daz want to work with kurupt ....becuase suge going to be there in between shit and that's something neither daz nor snoop wants....
like i said homie snoop not any better for claiming that gang shit but at least he's trying to get his people OFF the streets....and about suge ...i don't exactly see daz backing anything up, and how ironic is this.....you're using kid rock's definiton of cocky when kid rock is cool and supports snoop 100% lol like Alanis Morisette said "and isn't it ironic, don't you think?" LMAO
good i'm glad your over our obsesion, and yes you have critisized me about my Next Episode CDQ, you basically said i was lying unless i prooved it. that's about as equal to what i said about you, i wasn't dissing you personaly i was just making a comment...jesus christ i guess you're sensitive , i just won't give you contructive criticism any more if it hurts your feelings that bad.1. it was contructive criticism...get over it, i wasn't dissin you personally
2 i never dissed your country , Kangaroo land is the equiviant of saying bald eagle land....that ain't a diss it's just a nick name...again quit being so sensitive. your the one who dissed me first with all that "i'mma beat you up" BS, get real homie
3. you've always doubted me about the next episode as well as every one else...i'mma proove y'all wrong too and if you want me to call you collect so i can proove it i'll do it, i met daz i got his sig and if you wanna ask 'him' at his site go ahead....i live in CALIFORNIA we run a chace of meeting people
4. if you lost respect for me all because of something you blew out of porportion and took the wrong way....so be it u can go ahead and be MC eiht and i'll be DJ Quik (this situation is so identical i'm actually laughing as i type) so be it......except i ain't going to say "i don' take things on the net personal" then turn around and make a death threat ......
if you want to argue with me some more go ahead keep proving all my aligations right ;)...peace
I'll edit & reply to this shit later Jake coz i been busy & right now i dont have the time.
Just on a small note for now alot of stuff you accused me in that post aint true & i'll say more on that later
Just lettin u know i aint shook yet.
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I'll edit & reply to this shit later Jake coz i been busy & right now i dont have the time.
Just on a small note for now alot of stuff you accused me in that post aint true & i'll say more on that later
Just lettin u know i aint shook yet.
private message works great for theez type of things ....
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how he was all in Vibe magazine while in jail sayin how he cant live Thug Life anymore & how he changed & then he changes his mind when he gets out of jail.
Why do peeps bring this up in beefs anyways? I know i'd wanna change if I got shot up 5 times, who wants to live life like that if they don't need to. I didn't see anyone else claiming to be 'real' & claim that sort of lifestyle come as real as Pac did. There's alot of fakers out there, Pac was not one of them, he lived that shit till the day he died. Obviously he was speaking in the state of mind that any other person would of who walked on the edge of death.
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cormega signed to roc, i hope not cuz i think his style would change. I guy like cormega will never make it to platnium statis (sp). 6-7 years ago yea cuz real shit sold now only pop shit sells. Tha realness is a hot album i have been bompin that a lot lately. On a major lable he would sell a lil more but not much more
U sure u aint getting confused with Cam'ron, coz i know he just signed with ROC, but Cormega I aint heard shit. In interviews he has seemed happy with just being independant
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Why do peeps bring this up in beefs anyways? I know i'd wanna change if I got shot up 5 times, who wants to live life like that if they don't need to. I didn't see anyone else claiming to be 'real' & claim that sort of lifestyle come as real as Pac did. There's alot of fakers out there, Pac was not one of them, he lived that shit till the day he died. Obviously he was speaking in the state of mind that any other person would of who walked on the edge of death.
I know, I aint sayin Pac cant change his mind on what life he lives but why did Pac get mad at Mobb Deep just cause they said Thug Life we still livin it. It wasnt a shot at him at all, more people than Pac lived the Thug Life, when was that life exclussive to Pac. There is alot of people in USA who have grown up in ghetto, corruption, gangs, drugs, violence, theft, crime, trife life & they Thugs, why all of a sudden its only 2Pac & his homies who live it?
Pac had no right to get angry coz he gave up Thug Life & said someone else can rep that life. So even if Mobb Deep were tryin to bite Pac's style (which they so werent, Mobb Deep aint sound nothing like Pac at all, lyrics & beats BTW), Pac said he permitted it. If he didnt mean it, he shouldnt have said it.
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the reason why pac got mad at mobb deep for saying that is probably becuase he thought they were were ignorant to what thug life REALLY meant
pac said that Thug Life doesn't mean , yo i'm a thug and i'm going to do all this criminal activity and rape woman and shit, thug life is an acronym for The Hate U Gave Little Infants Fucks Everybody (one)....
that is what 2pac died for, if you understand what thug life means, it's not the pac you see spitting at cameras and and beating the shit out of orlando anderson and shooting at cops....Thug Life is the concious to make a difference. Pac's motive from the video i saw that his body guard made about him when he said "i'm through will thug life" is that he was sick of people using the word thug life wrong in the white media and not understanding what it meant, so he dropped it completly, then for some reason he went back to it (and why not )
so that's why he was probably pissed at mobb deep , he thought of them as little kids who were trying to emulate thug life wrong [and who can blame him when you see early mobb deep, that ain't a diss but you gotta see were pac is coming from] and totally mix up the message behind it , he got at nas for the same thing too , pac was sick of saying thug life and having people taking it the wrong way then trying to emulate it the opposite of what it's really suppose to mean , i think it was more frustration than anything, becuase if you ever saw pac talking about the media that's one of the first things he'd mention that he's pissed about, the twisting of thug life
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And 'Pac didn't live long enough, or really cared enough well alive, to have a great responds. Hit 'Em Up murdered anything Biggie would have put out in response, but since Mobb Deep was not the target, they got off easy. 'Pac had a very vast arsonal to chose from in his rhyming scheme, topics, what not. Runnin' On E was to Mobb Deep, that shit was tight, just not mastered. And a true 'Pac diss, you know that shit is deep and murderous, something he never got with Mobb Deep.
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Oh and it is Cam'ron of Horse and Carriage fame that is with the Roc.
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the reason why pac got mad at mobb deep for saying that is probably becuase he thought they were were ignorant to what thug life REALLY meant
pac said that Thug Life doesn't mean , yo i'm a thug and i'm going to do all this criminal activity and rape woman and shit, thug life is an acronym for The Hate U Gave Little Infants Fucks Everybody (one)....
that is what 2pac died for, if you understand what thug life means, it's not the pac you see spitting at cameras and and beating the shit out of orlando anderson and shooting at cops....Thug Life is the concious to make a difference. Pac's motive from the video i saw that his body guard made about him when he said "i'm through will thug life" is that he was sick of people using the word thug life wrong in the white media and not understanding what it meant, so he dropped it completly, then for some reason he went back to it (and why not )
so that's why he was probably pissed at mobb deep , he thought of them as little kids who were trying to emulate thug life wrong [and who can blame him when you see early mobb deep, that ain't a diss but you gotta see were pac is coming from] and totally mix up the message behind it , he got at nas for the same thing too , pac was sick of saying thug life and having people taking it the wrong way then trying to emulate it the opposite of what it's really suppose to mean , i think it was more frustration than anything, becuase if you ever saw pac talking about the media that's one of the first things he'd mention that he's pissed about, the twisting of thug life
Nicely put Jake. I wasn't saying Pac was the only one that lived the thug Life syxx, but he created T.H.U.G L.I.F.E, he represented alot more than just the average ghetto child lifestyle. Alot of people don't really get how consious of a person/MC he really was. Alot of people lived their lives through Pac's music, thats what makes him the important icon that he is today. & about "Hit Em' Up" I remember someone describing in one of the threads here about a diss song not needing to be lyrically advanced to be great, "Hit Em' Up" was pure raw, REAL emotion, & that's as real as a diss song gets.
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SOrry bout not replyin sooner, just my phoneline f'd up
"calm the fuck down and get your head out of YOUR ass, i wasn't even dissing your ass, like it or not that's what your country is known for, if you called America bald eagle land i wouldn't get all pissed....dude man quit being a hypocrit, you say that you don't net shit seriously but what the fuck do you call what you just said? man the more you talk to more you proove my point right....and god's sake's man quit going off on tangents and blowing shit out of porportion"
Ok, tell me how any of what I said there was being hypocritical. Do I dissrespect your country (or others for that matter) & then say dont dissrespect mine. No. In fact, I said I would come to Bakersfield L.A., not some stereo typical word to describe America. That is what you did when you referred to my country. Why couldn't you just say Melbourne, Australia. No you had to be dissrespectfull & call it Kangaroo Island, when in fact Kangaroo's are rarely seen out of the Zoo (Maybe up in the country or bush land, but most Australia is suburbian & city like your country) & this land is that an island, it may not be nearly as big as USA but it isnt far from an island.
What I take seriously is an American dissrespecting my country after we send Australian soldiers to fight in your wars, people giving up there lives to help your country, not only in the latest war, but wars of the past. World War 1, World War 2, Korea, Vietnam &, I'm pretty sure, the Golf War, & 3 of those wars didnt involve us, but we did it to help your country. I got love for America, show the same love back to us instead of stereotyping us & being dissrespectfull, we dont do it to y'all.
"no suge knight didn't get no money from time warner to help snoop out, what suge and time warner did was a seperate combination thing which they were obligated to do becuase that's THEIR artist ..doesn't matte if he's big or not, time warner paid for snoop beuase that's what lables do....arista did it for puffy, def jam did it for jy-z, that's what the lables behind the lables do....i'm not dissing you but this again prooves my point about your ignorance about something, again that's not a diss but it's so obvious you hold a vast unknowledge of how business in the music industry is run"
Maybe your right, maybe your wrong. Who cares. Theres no denieing, whether love him or hate him, that Suge Knight did help Snoop's career, & Death Row artists of the 1992-1996 era. Sure, I think Death Row fans & Suge himself gives to much credit to Suge for there careers, but he did play a part in it.
"that's your bad then huh, don't judge a book by it's cover homie.....i ain't about to call myself Big jake Tallica Tall, or Big Jake Paccy Pac....i've had this name since i was 8"
Ok, now I know
"yes snoop has fallen off any one with a quarter of a brain knows this, but also the hip hop concious of the world also knows daz has fallen off just as hard....by you saying that you don't think daz has fallen off as much puts you in the same category as the snoop fans you love to belittle becuase they can't see/admit soop has fallen off....like metallica said "you know it's sad but true""
I dont know, its just my opinion, if anything, Daz's production has fallen a little, but lyrically & flow wise, he has upped it a little. Again thats my opinion. If you like Snoop fine, dont mean I have to like him.
"first and formost i'm sorry about what happened to your friend, i was one of the first ones to pray for him when you announced he was in the hospital on his death bed,"
Ok, but dont make fun of what Aaron thought was fun. We all (my friends) just like to chill, drink, smoke & do stupid funny shit, Aaron just wanted to do that with Daz because he thought some the shit Daz has said & done is fuckin funny, thats all. I aint see nothing pathetic about that.
"secondly NO you will not kill me...and even if you tried to i still wouldn't be scared becuase your just bluffing and i doubt that'd you'd be able to do that here in my surroundings, and if you did kill me i still would't care cuz i know where i'm goin' and with a cousin like mine you'd only find your own self dead.....please stop making scencless and childish death threats over the net and further proving me right about the obvious"
I dont care if I die for it, but anyone disses Aaron I swear to god I will stop at nothing to get revenge. You dare doubt my loyalty to my friends.
"....and third YES YOU FUCKING DID SAY THAT SHIT ON THE DRE BOARD, AFTER I MET DAZ YOU SAID THAT SHIT AND EVERYONE CLOWNED YOU AND CALLED YOU GAY (hell i even defended you) DON'T EVEN DENY THIS....IF I HAVE TO SEARCH THE DRE BOADS ARCHIVES TO FIND THIS I WILL AND ANY ONEWHO WAS AT THE DRE BAORD WILL TESTIFY TO THIS"
Bullshit, I did not. I believed, in fact I still believe. Remember we used to talk on AIM (BTW i dont know coz i just dont have time, nothing personal) & I asked you everything about it & I thought it was cool. I remember other heads (forgotten who) dissin you. I seriously dont think I did, I cant remember any time dissing you other than when you first posted when u were Jabroni187 & dissed me for something.
"if you read my post you'd know what I meant by why your' a hypocrit....hell you can even read this one and your own to see why"
I cant see it, you point it out & maybe i might see it. I doubt you even know why your calling me hypocritical.
"Daz says alot of shit that is bogus on that site so it's hard to distinguish what's the truth and what's fake, "daz" disses snoop to the heavins on that board but yet he still calls him up somethings fishy there.....and from every thing i've heard snoop's STILL great friends with kurupt and wisheshim all the luck (and this can be prooved), but why should you diss him..even if he is mad? Snoop has every right in the world to be mad as well as daz, wether kurupt knows this or not i's going to make things a lot difficult when snoop and daz want to work with kurupt ....becuase suge going to be there in between shit and that's something neither daz nor snoop wants...."
that just shows YOUR ignorance. Search the boards, Daz has never dissed Snoop there, & the only thing he has said is that Snoop paid them (Daz & Kurupt) $500 for each Puff Puff Pass show where as Kurupt said him & Daz could be making more with Death Row, & that aint a diss. So before you say I'm ignorant check yourself & you will find you dont have the full facts about alot of things either. I go to DPGRecordz forum & read every post Daz posts (using Search you enter his name)
"like i said homie snoop not any better for claiming that gang shit but at least he's trying to get his people OFF the streets....and about suge ...i don't exactly see daz backing anything up, and how ironic is this.....you're using kid rock's definiton of cocky when kid rock is cool and supports snoop 100% lol like Alanis Morisette said "and isn't it ironic, don't you think?" LMAO"
Suge tries to get people off the streets too, why do you reckon he signs young talent & he has that appeals fund going. I dont care if Kid Rock supports Snoop, did I say I was supporting Kid Rock. Never, I was just quoting a good saying from his song because its true, so before you act like a lil kid on net goin "LOL LOL OMG OMG OMG LMAO LMAO ROTFLMAO LOL LOL HEHEHEHEHEH", actually read & see what I did say & didnt say. Stop trying to be a smart ass to, thats how you got my back up like this in the first place.
"good i'm glad your over our obsesion,"
Another smart ass comment. Thats the whole reason why I got all angry coz you accuse me of things & then be a smart ass with it, which is insulting
DONT WORRY PART 2 comin up, its sayin its too long to post
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"and yes you have critisized me about my Next Episode CDQ, you basically said i was lying unless i prooved it. that's about as equal to what i said about you, i wasn't dissing you personaly i was just making a comment...jesus christ i guess you're sensitive , i just won't give you contructive criticism any more if it hurts your feelings that bad."
I didnt at first, i believed you, but after a while & after all the excuses on why you couldnt rip it & upload it It sounded suspect so of course i'm gonna ask you to prove it. Thats all, you may as well have it, but how do I know FOR SURE, without any proove, Thats how it goes with anything, like if someone says they met a celebritie or have something rare & they say it over the net, you cant just believe it without proof coz unfortunately theres alot of bullshitters & liars out there who ruin it for people who tell the truth.
"1. it was contructive criticism...get over it, i wasn't dissin you personally"
The way you came at me calling me ignorant & immature & also being a smart ass makes it sound personal, so dont do that then.
"2 i never dissed your country , Kangaroo land is the equiviant of saying bald eagle land....that ain't a diss it's just a nick name...again quit being so sensitive. your the one who dissed me first with all that "i'mma beat you up" BS, get real homie"
Read posts above.
"3. you've always doubted me about the next episode as well as every one else...i'mma proove y'all wrong too and if you want me to call you collect so i can proove it i'll do it, i met daz i got his sig and if you wanna ask 'him' at his site go ahead....i live in CALIFORNIA we run a chace of meeting people"
With the next episode thing, before you offered the cd for anyone helping you with the car business thingy I thought it was like about a 50% chance it was true, after I feel its probably 90% chance true.
With your Daz meeting incident I have ALWAYS believed you. Go search the archives if you will.
"4. if you lost respect for me all because of something you blew out of porportion and took the wrong way....so be it u can go ahead and be MC eiht and i'll be DJ Quik (this situation is so identical i'm actually laughing as i type) so be it......except i ain't going to say "i don' take things on the net personal" then turn around and make a death threat ......""
I made a threat when I thought you was makin this personal & when you sounded like you was gonna cross that line. If anyone, ANYONE says shit about Aaron its crossing RIGHT OVER THAT LINE, regardless whether its on the net, phone, in person, & if someone talk shit like that on the net, they better have the guts to give me there address so I can handle business. I'll try & wait a while too so i can get like a few peoples from your country sayin that shit during the same trip to save airline ticket costs ;)
"if you want to argue with me some more go ahead keep proving all my aligations right ...peace"
Ohh you say peace, but then you say something to provoke me, like saying I keep proving your aligations right. Nice, sounds like peace (note sarcasim)
Now, if you stop comin at me like that & being a smartass, I aint got no prob with u. B4 this i was down with you, but now it seems like its been fucked up, some my fault probably, some your fault, due to misscommunication, ignorance on certain issues & other shit. Hopefully it will be sorted out, if not, ohh well.