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Things should be good for Obie Trice. The artist’s debut album, Cheers, managed to sell over 500,000 copies. He’s a part of the reigning Shady/Aftermath machine and he’s about to release his sophomore album after a three-year sabbatical. But, Obie Trice has a bullet lodged in his head from an attempt on his life in December, 2005. The artist has a lot more than sales on his mind, with the recent loss of comrade Proof still fresh. As Obie prepares Second Round’s On Me, he finds himself pouring out a little liquor.
AllHipHop.com: How was the Anger Management Tour?
Obie Trice: We went all over the U.S., it was crazy. It was real fun to have everybody on the same tour. Me and my n***a, Marshall was just getting it in working.
AllHipHop.com: Any cities that stood out?
Obie Trice: The South was real dope. Atlanta, Houston, Dallas… everywhere was dope.
AllHipHop.com: How’d you know that you were in your element?
Obie Trice: Crowd participation. You spittin’ your s**t, and the crowd is right there wit’ you, looking at you, spittin’ your s**t verbatim, word for word. It’s like scoring a touchdown, man.
AllHipHop.com: How important is stage presence?
Obie Trice: It all depends on the song. If I got a song that’s crazy, a wil’ out song, I’ma rhyme and move accordingly.
AllHipHop.com: Since the last project, how have you grown as an MC?
Obie Trice: Cheers is a classic. It’s been almost three years since my last album, which is a long time. Second Round’s On Me shows a different Obie. I’m going deeper. I’m not the same dude. I think this album is more lyrical, more spontaneous. Second Round… Shows growth as an individual. I got 18, 19 songs on my album. Most albums come with 14 songs, and that’s a complete album. You don’t want people to get drowned in the music and not listen, but I give it all to you.
AllHipHop.com: Dr. Dre versus Eminem. Who takes the title of best producer?
Obie Trice: I’m going with Marshall. That’s my homey. Dre’s the man, but Em’ is sick. He got some s**t. He gives away beats! He don’t charge Nas or Jay-Z. Dre want a $150,000 to a million [dollars]. Eminem is a motherf**king artist. He’s a talented dude and you gotta respect him. He’s never been fake.
AllHipHop.com: No doubt. The world’s been giving it up for him. At this point, what separates Shady Records from the other labels out there?
Obie Trice: Marshall let’s you be the individual that you are. He listens to my music, gives his opinion, then mixes and masters it.
AllHipHop.com: The first song that I heard off of Next Round’s On Me was “Ghetto” featuring Trey Songz and producer JR Rotem. When I heard that, I was like… “Damn!” What went into that?
Obie Trice: I felt Trey Songz’ hook, and JR is a beast. I was right at home. “I’m from the motherf**king slums where the cops don’t come/ turn the lights on and the bugs don’t run/ you aint s**t without no gun in the ghetto.” That’s not just Detroit, it’s the whole world, especially us as black people.
AllHipHop.com: I agree completely. What do you miss most about Hip-Hop from ten years ago?
Obie Trice: N***as wasn’t killin’ each other like they are today. Hip-Hop was fun when I was young. You were speaking where you came from, and n***as respected it. Nowadays man… I don’t know if the crack babies are growing up or what, but it’s crazy. I got a bullet in my head right now as we speak.
Hip-Hop was fun for me; I had fun with the music back then. That was my passion. I was born to do Hip-Hop music. It goes way beyond another hustle. You can’t just jump into the culture; it’s a relationship that needs to be appreciated. Really, really appreciated. It’s a bond, more than just rap; it’s the significant other. It’s more than just saying that I can rap. That’s where a lot of n***as got it twisted. You can’t just be rapping just to rap. As a rapper you’ve got to have an objective. And you’ve got to have somebody in your corner with a good ear to give constructive criticism, not just a bunch of yes-men. It’s just like getting drafted to the NBA or NFL, it ain’t for everybody. There are a lot of dudes in the NBA that got drafted and sat on that bench. They were a part of the team but they never played. Rapping aint for everybody. We all aren’t stars.
AllHipHop.com: Would you consider yourself a star?
Obie Trice: I consider myself as a star, and as a dude that does it for Hip-Hop. I’m not trying to get over on you motherf***ers. I love the music. I don’t do it just to shine. I do it because I love Hip-Hop culture. I try to make music that people can appreciate. I love the music and the culture, always have and always will. But I’m a star.
AllHipHop.com: As a star, and as far as your career goes, where do you see yourself in ten years?
Obie Trice: I see myself making movies. I also see myself established as one of the greatest MC’s that ever did it.
AllHipHop.com: Our prayers and condolences go out to Proof’s family and the Shady Aftermath staff. What would you have fans of Hip-Hop and members of our community take away from this unfortunate situation?
Obie Trice: Us as Black men… there’s a lot of dudes that just take your life for no reason. I think it’s some bulls**t, truthfully. Not just from what happened to Proof… I mean, I saw my n***a on a gurney. I went to the hospital when they brought his body in, cold, one eye open… it’s just senseless dog. We kill each other ‘cause, “I don’t like you. You bump me walking through the crowd, and I’ll kill you.” And I’ll kill any n***a trying to take me away from my loved ones! And it’s sad that it has to be that way, but that’s how it is. N***as will kill you and not think nothing of it. I almost died New Year’s Eve…
AllHipHop.com: I don’t know your history of violence or of being shot, but you were shot in the head and survived. What’s your outlook on life like nowadays?
Obie: Trice: It’s still surreal to me. It’s funny that I didn’t get shot a long time ago. I’m from the hood and been in a lot of bulls**t; shoot-outs, n***as shot at me… it’s just a blessing that I can talk to you right now about my situation. It ain’t no hype - getting shot ain’t cool. I’m surprised that it took this long for me, and I get shot in the dome at that? I got a bullet in my head; it cracked my skull so the doctors ain’t want to pull it out. The nurses were like; “You had three angels in the car with you that night.” And four months later, my man gets killed. He wasn’t meant for that.
AllHipHop.com: You got any advice for all the gun-happy kids and rappers with assault rifles in all their rhymes?
Obie Trice: If you murder a person, that’s a track record. If you murder someone one time, you feel like it aint s**t. Keep laying n***as down, you gotta answer to the Man upstairs in the end. The *****s that shot me, all of that s**t comes back around. I’ll give it to this summer, they gon’ be talking, n***as want to express themselves. I don’t care who the f**k you is. If it was a real killing type of n***a, he would have killed me. The person that shot me was just a hatin’ ass n***a. I don’t owe anybody s**t. I ain’t took no work from nobody. I might have f**ked somebody’s b*tch. If that’s why you want to kill a n***a, then you’se a fag. I aint never snitched on nobody and I gets it in Detroit. I f**k with trife life. I f**k with real people. It’s just a sad situation.
Detroit is a small working-class city. Word gets around. It’s so small, certain *****s talk like bitches sometimes, even though Detroit is made up of real motherf***ers. I love my city and that’s why I can’t move. All we got is downtown where everybody pulls up at the same spot; all the killers, hustlers, everybody. It’s not like New York City; it’s only a few spots.
AllHipHop.com: What’s the economy like in Detroit right now?
Obie Trice: We’re $130 million dollars in debt. If we don’t have the money by June, the state is taking over. That’s called receivership. That’s crazy, laws is going to change… the s**t is crazy. N***as is broke for real. So when they see Obie Trice, Eminem or D12, they like “f**k y’all n***as!” And all we doing is chilling and embracing you. We from “the D,” so we trying to indulge in the things we’ve always been doing. It ain’t like you going to see Nas or Jay-Z walk past, it’s no stars like that. But, if you don’t like me, who gives a f**k? N***as die over that. That’s when it gets real hectic.
http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1427
To make matters worse, you got all these Obie Trice groupies on the board actually agreeing with him and shit. Just check the link bellow... Everyone should register on that board just to fuck with these kids and set that shit straight, haha
http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=308787
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:loser:
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i guess time will tell........
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i guess time will tell........
Yeah.. I can see Em becoming better producer... The beats from Dre last years weren't that special.. Em is bringing a new kinda electronic vibe.
We just have to wait and see... Obie's hearing all the unreleased beats.. It might be so that Em is growing stronger.... ;)
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THAT SHOT 2 THE DOME GOT OBIE DELUSIONAL........
EMINEM tracks or subpar but better than Dr. Dre hell no
Jay-Z's Moment of Clarity sounded juss like Nas's The Cross
that needs 2 be in XXL negro please section
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damn, Obie is gonna be recievin death threats from people on this board
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just listen to the Dre beats on Cheers and compare them to Eminem´s beats LMAO.
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Em's beats can be nice, but better than Dre.......PLEASE!!! >:(
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just listen to the Dre beats on Cheers and compare them to Eminem´s beats LMAO.
nuff said
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Obie Trice Says Eminem Is A Better Producer Than Dr. Dre In New Interview
i want some of whatever he is tokin!
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HAHAHAHAH some of the comments in this are dumb as fuck, this shows the state of hiphop and its dumb fans these days........lolQonly time will tell..........eminem at his peak will never be as good as dre on a bad day...........dre at his peak makes eminem look like a new born baby......dre done so much, em aint done shit, he hasnt even made a club hit yet.........this post doesnt even make me laugh, it makes me sick
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Of course Obie is going to say Em is the better producer. Em signs Obie's checks, not Dre. Obie picked his favorite producer, seeing as how he's spit over a gang of Eminem tracks and he's only touched on 4 Dre tracks. He kinda sounds bitter when he's talking about Dre charging so much for a beat. Maybe that's why no Dre production on "Second Eounds"...
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Its one mans opinion.
Dont take it as gospel. The dude asked him for his opinion, and he gave an honest answer. So what, hes supposed to lie and just say Dre? Sure you may feel differently, i know i do, but im not going to start calling Obie names and shit just cuz he thinks Em produces better than Dre, as stupid as it sounds.
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Can't knock Obie for giving his opinion and supporting his homeboy.
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i aint dissing obie, he just mad dre aint coming back with beats to waste on obie.....i just find it sick that some kids actually think em is better or will become better.......he has no chance of even matching him
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he just says that cause of the free beats
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i must say it's dope that Em gives away free beats... that somehow shows that he cares more about the music than the money
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i must say it's dope that Em gives away free beats... that somehow shows that he cares more about the music than the money
more then likely he´s giving them away coz very few people would pay for them lol.
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I agree that is Obie's opinion. He didn't say that Dre's beats were terrible or anything. All he stated is that he like's Em's better.
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he likes Eminem's beats better cuz he gets them for free
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All of Eminems beats sound the same.
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i guess time will tell........
Yeah.. I can see Em becoming better producer... The beats from Dre last years weren't that special.. Em is bringing a new kinda electronic vibe.
We just have to wait and see... Obie's hearing all the unreleased beats.. It might be so that Em is growing stronger.... ;)
If Eminem wants to even come close to breathing the same air as Dr. Dre when it comes to producing, he'll need to produce 5 classic albums. Cause Dre has, and has done a shit load more.
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i guess time will tell........
Yeah.. I can see Em becoming better producer... The beats from Dre last years weren't that special.. Em is bringing a new kinda electronic vibe.
We just have to wait and see... Obie's hearing all the unreleased beats.. It might be so that Em is growing stronger.... ;)
If Eminem wants to even come close to breathing the same air as Dr. Dre when it comes to producing, he'll need to produce 5 classic albums. Cause Dre has, and has done a shit load more.
Shit he needs to make five classic beats.
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i guess time will tell........
Yeah.. I can see Em becoming better producer... The beats from Dre last years weren't that special.. Em is bringing a new kinda electronic vibe.
We just have to wait and see... Obie's hearing all the unreleased beats.. It might be so that Em is growing stronger.... ;)
If Eminem wants to even come close to breathing the same air as Dr. Dre when it comes to producing, he'll need to produce 5 classic albums. Cause Dre has, and has done a shit load more.
Shit he needs to make five classic beats.
That would be a start. ;)
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1. Em is a wack producer, he does have a hot beat here and there but for the most his stuff is wack
2. If you look deeper into what Obie says, he only likes em's production better b/c em produces for free lol.
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why are you guys getting all butthurt? all he's saying is em doesnt want a ridiculous amount of money for a beat he spent a day making on a computer and its still hot. of course evrybody knows ems beats are kinda boring, but they still clean as fuck and for em to GIVE AWAY tracks is pretty noble, and i'd have to side with him if thats the truth.
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Obie didnt get no dre beats on his cd so hes prolly pissed but DRE IS A WAY BETTER PRODUCER THAN EM
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Hell, I'd give Nas or Jay-Z a free beat too. Why? ... because I'm not on Dr. Dre's level, and I know they won't pay me 1 million dollars for it. Ouch.
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Didnt Royce da 5 ' 9 say the exact same thing n got kicked off the label??>...
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Didnt Royce da 5 ' 9 say the exact same thing n got kicked off the label??>...
I think he got kicked off (wasn't really on) because his manager said 2001 was only dope because Royce was on it or something.
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so em is better than dre because he gives away free beats?? hahaha get that shit outta here, who the fuck is Obie to voice his opinion on producing, lets see if they asked Quik, Swizz Beats, or Daz who is better and i'm pretty sure the answer will be Dre every single time.
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
lmao, so true 8)
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Didnt Royce da 5 ' 9 say the exact same thing n got kicked off the label??>...
I think he got kicked off (wasn't really on) because his manager said 2001 was only dope because Royce was on it or something.
Royce manager talked to vibe magazine and said Eminem was basically the mentor and Dre was the pupil. He said Em would sit Dre down and tell him how to do things. After saying that Dre wanted Royce to fire his manager and basically Royce said fuck you thats my homie and thats why Dre dont fuck with Royce anymore
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Man that Shady camp is all wack just like the brady bunch was wack. Where do they get off dissin Dre when Dre made them. The only thing Obie Trice can do better than Dre is wash Dre's car. I dont even think Obie owns a car The only car he drives is ms daizyz and ms daizy is a white bitch named Eminem.
If Proof can get it so can Obie talkin shit
peace
Rip Proof
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LOL @ everyone crying like Obie's words are law.
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
LOL, not unlikely actually. ;D
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
;D hahahahahaha!
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
I can totally see that popping up on the board someday.
But for real - Eminem > Dr. Dre = :loco:
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, of course - but God damn. That right there is a wrong opinion.
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^ In Daz's case,he'd probably say something to this effect:
'Nah, that guy Eminem, he's dope you know! Making it happen and stuff like that. The wigger produces himself,just like I do. Hits keep coming man, we're in the zone! I just called Em the other day and he was like 'Daz, we gotta make an album together!'. So I was like 'yeah youre right, but I want the major paper out of it!' Of course, that white nigga Em agreed because he knows no one can do it like D-A-Z, DPGC-style,you know. The album's coming next year, it's called 'Dillingent Mathers'. It's gonna be biiiiiiiiig oh and shoutouts to the homie Snoop, I love you nigga!'
Ha ha, +1
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who the fuck is Obie to voice his opinion on producing
Someone who has been in the studio with both producers and has seen them first hand. We have no basis on jusging either as a producer. Only people that have heard the raw product and compared it to the produced one have the ability to judge.
What really gets me with so many rap fans is that they all too often confuse producing with composing. Let me let you in on a little secret; Dre sucks as a composer. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the Madden Brothers from Good Charlotte and 10 being Paul McCartney) Dre is a 2. Maybe Obie knows that Em at least hums out most of te stuff he puts out while Dre just takes it from others and put is together, then puts his name on it (making Em a 2.1). None of you guys have seen either in a studio so you can't judge. I'm not saying Obie is right, I'm just saying you can't say he is wrong.
Before everyone jumps one for "hating" hip hop let me just say I have great respect for the art. The art is the rhyming, the flow, the word play, the lyric, the patterns, the scratching, and the complex sampling. Simply looping established melodies and adding a simple drum track should never overshadow what I stated as the art and unfortunately it has and that is the main reason hip hop sucks now.
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Just like you said, we've never been in the studio with them so how do you know Dre does that? or if he does how often he does that, if its exagerated or not. who knows
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who the fuck is Obie to voice his opinion on producing
Someone who has been in the studio with both producers and has seen them first hand. We have no basis on jusging either as a producer. Only people that have heard the raw product and compared it to the produced one have the ability to judge.
What really gets me with so many rap fans is that they all too often confuse producing with composing. Let me let you in on a little secret; Dre sucks as a composer. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the Madden Brothers from Good Charlotte and 10 being Paul McCartney) Dre is a 2. Maybe Obie knows that Em at least hums out most of te stuff he puts out while Dre just takes it from others and put is together, then puts his name on it (making Em a 2.1). None of you guys have seen either in a studio so you can't judge. I'm not saying Obie is right, I'm just saying you can't say he is wrong.
Before everyone jumps one for "hating" hip hop let me just say I have great respect for the art. The art is the rhyming, the flow, the word play, the lyric, the patterns, the scratching, and the complex sampling. Simply looping established melodies and adding a simple drum track should never overshadow what I stated as the art and unfortunately it has and that is the main reason hip hop sucks now.
Oh shut up, we all know you think you're better than us cause you think youre listening to better, more demanding music. Eat a dick right there.
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Didnt Royce da 5 ' 9 say the exact same thing n got kicked off the label??>...
lol ye I SEE THIS COMING TOO
but seriously wat a bitch
dre gave him 4 beats, 4 HOT beats and now he goin around talkin like that
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who the fuck is Obie to voice his opinion on producing
Someone who has been in the studio with both producers and has seen them first hand. We have no basis on jusging either as a producer. Only people that have heard the raw product and compared it to the produced one have the ability to judge.
What really gets me with so many rap fans is that they all too often confuse producing with composing. Let me let you in on a little secret; Dre sucks as a composer. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the Madden Brothers from Good Charlotte and 10 being Paul McCartney) Dre is a 2. Maybe Obie knows that Em at least hums out most of te stuff he puts out while Dre just takes it from others and put is together, then puts his name on it (making Em a 2.1). None of you guys have seen either in a studio so you can't judge. I'm not saying Obie is right, I'm just saying you can't say he is wrong.
Before everyone jumps one for "hating" hip hop let me just say I have great respect for the art. The art is the rhyming, the flow, the word play, the lyric, the patterns, the scratching, and the complex sampling. Simply looping established melodies and adding a simple drum track should never overshadow what I stated as the art and unfortunately it has and that is the main reason hip hop sucks now.
Oh shut up, we all know you think you're better than us cause you think youre listening to better, more demanding music. Eat a dick right there.
No more better than you think you are for not believing in any religion. ;)
For the record, while I think the music I listen to now is better, I have never meant to imply I was better than anyone because I listened to it. What I was arguing in my post was not whether I am better, but whether or not anyone has the right to assume who is better in the studio when you have not been in the studio. And I felt it was stupid to praise someone for composing when he very rarely composes.
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who the fuck is Obie to voice his opinion on producing
Someone who has been in the studio with both producers and has seen them first hand. We have no basis on jusging either as a producer. Only people that have heard the raw product and compared it to the produced one have the ability to judge.
What really gets me with so many rap fans is that they all too often confuse producing with composing. Let me let you in on a little secret; Dre sucks as a composer. On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the Madden Brothers from Good Charlotte and 10 being Paul McCartney) Dre is a 2. Maybe Obie knows that Em at least hums out most of te stuff he puts out while Dre just takes it from others and put is together, then puts his name on it (making Em a 2.1). None of you guys have seen either in a studio so you can't judge. I'm not saying Obie is right, I'm just saying you can't say he is wrong.
Before everyone jumps one for "hating" hip hop let me just say I have great respect for the art. The art is the rhyming, the flow, the word play, the lyric, the patterns, the scratching, and the complex sampling. Simply looping established melodies and adding a simple drum track should never overshadow what I stated as the art and unfortunately it has and that is the main reason hip hop sucks now.
Oh shut up, we all know you think you're better than us cause you think youre listening to better, more demanding music. Eat a dick right there.
hahahaha
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this thread makes me laugh
peace