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Title: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: BigBDrugStores on May 30, 2006, 03:47:51 PM
that way the would actually drop, look at stat quo if he was on koch we would have had 2 cds by now. i think koch doesnt care about putting up huge numbers so none of this pushing back due to lack of hype
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: Eihtball on May 30, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
Being on Koch also generally means much smaller recording budgets, not to mention less promotion.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: BigBDrugStores on May 30, 2006, 04:02:08 PM
but reallly fuck big promotion, and the cds that i own from koch sound great and beat hard with little known produces (cheap producers)
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: herpes on May 30, 2006, 04:02:31 PM
Being on Koch also generally means much smaller recording budgets, not to mention less promotion.
yea but you get creative freedom and more for each album sold.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: 7even on May 30, 2006, 04:02:48 PM
If I was rich as fuck - and I mean REALLY rich, not some cheap millionaire shit - I'd create my own lable, then get all the rappers I really like and tell them to make awesome music. If they don't sell I will give them mad money if their albums are classics in my book. How awesome would that be, really? I wonder why noone ever did something like that.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: Ðøšïå on May 30, 2006, 04:11:24 PM
If I was rich as fuck - and I mean REALLY rich, not some cheap millionaire shit - I'd create my own lable, then get all the rappers I really like and tell them to make awesome music. If they don't sell I will give them mad money if their albums are classics in my book. How awesome would that be, really? I wonder why noone ever did something like that.

you better be filthy rich because its a business and you would be a shitty business man. i sure as hell wouldnt want to lose money over a classic cd.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: Eihtball on May 30, 2006, 04:16:25 PM
Being on Koch also generally means much smaller recording budgets, not to mention less promotion.
yea but you get creative freedom and more for each album sold.

To a degree, but generally, most artists on Koch aren't putting out music that's really that much better than the majors.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: 7even on May 31, 2006, 06:08:34 AM
If I was rich as fuck - and I mean REALLY rich, not some cheap millionaire shit - I'd create my own lable, then get all the rappers I really like and tell them to make awesome music. If they don't sell I will give them mad money if their albums are classics in my book. How awesome would that be, really? I wonder why noone ever did something like that.

you better be filthy rich because its a business and you would be a shitty business man. i sure as hell wouldnt want to lose money over a classic cd.

You didn't get the point. It's not about making money, it's about making music. Fuck profit. The profit lies in the music. Someone as rich as Mark Cuban could easily afford such a label.
How you know I'd be a shitty business man, and how is this relevant in this hypothetical theory? Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: Suga Foot on May 31, 2006, 09:09:52 AM
Koch is a hell of a label. 
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: ABN on May 31, 2006, 09:11:13 AM
in a couple of years Koch is gonna be a major if they keep it up.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: SGV on May 31, 2006, 09:22:03 AM
People hear everyone bad mouthing Koch and get this bad idea of the label.

You don't need a huge recording budget to make good music. You just need talent to do so. Koch gives you the option of being able to make the music you want. The only catch is that YOU have to grind hard enough to promote YOURSELF. They're a Major Indipendent. They're really just distro for artists and labels. The people bad mouthing them are the ones who probably wouldn't be able to make it on such a label.

In today's Rap world, you don't need a huge budget to get these big artists. It's as simple as trading favors or even getting something on the strength. It's possible. Look at a dude like Alchemist.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: Jome on May 31, 2006, 09:28:52 AM
I like Koch, they remind me of Rawkus in some ways..

Koch pros/cons:

+ Albums drops the announced day usually, no major pushbacks.
+ No need for a "Hot producer at the moment mixed with some hot at the moment singer" pop single needed to sell the album.
+ No need to turn the album into a guestfest to put the big names on the cover.
+ No need to be a big star to get a release date, even young newcomers get their chance on Koch, new producers also get their shot.
+ More freedom for the artists to make the album they want to make, not the album the CEO wants them to make.

- No album budget, none to little promotion
- Some stars doesn't want to get associated with Koch, or be heard on a Koch record. Or they're too expensive for Koch's budget.
- Even with a dope album, Koch artists rarely get much recognition and success, gets overlooked by many due to no promotion.

Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on May 31, 2006, 09:36:25 AM
They are essentially just major distributers working with independent artists, so they get the records into the stores, and its up to the artists to make sure the public wants to buy them.

I like Koch, they remind me of Rawkus in some ways..

How exactly?

Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: SGV on May 31, 2006, 10:16:22 AM
They're nothing like Rawkus. Rawkus was a label, not distribution.
Title: Re: I wish my all of my favorite labels and artist sign to Koch
Post by: QuietTruth on May 31, 2006, 10:27:59 AM
People hear everyone bad mouthing Koch and get this bad idea of the label.

You don't need a huge recording budget to make good music. You just need talent to do so. Koch gives you the option of being able to make the music you want. The only catch is that YOU have to grind hard enough to promote YOURSELF. They're a Major Indipendent. They're really just distro for artists and labels. The people bad mouthing them are the ones who probably wouldn't be able to make it on such a label.

In today's Rap world, you don't need a huge budget to get these big artists. It's as simple as trading favors or even getting something on the strength. It's possible. Look at a dude like Alchemist.

Man I wouldn't have a problem signing with them. I'd rather do shit like that myself. Make the music I want, no big name producers would be good I get myself out there and new producers too, all promotion is up to yourself is nice You do what you want to do to make it sell. If I ever made an album I'd love it to be as real as fuck!

Hell, I'm happy Xzibit just went with them now!